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Italian appeals Court says why it cleared Knox

Post  Panda on Thu 15 Dec - 20:30

Dec 15, 2:11 PM EST


Italian appeals court says why it cleared Knox



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MILAN, Italy (AP) -- The Italian appeals court that overturned
Amanda Knox's murder conviction in the slaying of her British roommate
gave the reasons for its ruling on Thursday: the evidence that had been
used by a lower court against the American and her Italian boyfriend
just didn't hold up.
Those shortcomings
included no murder weapon, faulty DNA, an inaccurate time for the
killing, and insufficient proof that Knox and Raffaele Sollecito were
even at the location where the crime occurred. So said the Perugia
appellate court in its long-awaited reasoning behind its October ruling
that reversed the lower court's convictions.
British
college student Meredith Kercher was found slain in a pool of blood on
her bedroom floor in Perugia, Italy, on Nov. 2, 2007.
Knox
and Sollecito, who had just begun dating at the time of the murder,
were arrested several days later, then convicted in what prosecutors'
portrayed as a drug-fueled sexual assault. They were sentenced to 26
years and 25 years, respectively, in proceedings that made headlines
around the world.
On Thursday, the appellate
cited among the other failed elements of the prosecutors' case DNA
evidence, which was undermined during a re-examination in the appeals
trial, and the failure to conclusively identify the murder weapon. The
appellate court even contradicted the lower court's time of death,
saying it happened at around 10:15 p.m., not after 11 p.m. The court
said the "building blocks" used to construct the case had failed.
The
appeals court also said there was no proof of the prosecutors' claim
that Knox and Sollecito had helped a third man, who was convicted
separately, of sexually assault Kercher, nor was there evidence that the
pair had simulated a burglary by throwing a rock through a window to
remove suspicion from themselves, as prosecutors alleged.
The
appeals court said the lower court had arrived at a verdict "that was
not corroborated by any objective element of evidence and in itself was
not, in fact probable: the sudden choice of two young people, good and
open to other people, to do evil for evil's sake, just like that,
without another reason."
"It is not,
therefore, sufficient that the probability of the prosecutors'
hypothesis is greater than the hypothesis of the defense, not even when
they are notably greater in number, but it is necessary that every
explanation that differs from the prosecutors' hypothesis is, according
to the criteria of reasonability, not at all plausible," the court said.
The
only elements of the prosecutors case that were proven, the appeals
court said, were the charge of slander against Knox, who was convicted
of falsely accusing a bar owner of killing Kercher, and the fact that
the Knox and Sollecito alibis did not match.
That the alibis were out of synch "is very different" from the prosecutors' claim of false alibis, the court said.
The proven elements combined, the court said, are not enough to support convictions against Knox and Sollecito.
"The
only elements that are sustained don't allow the belief, even when put
together, that the guilt of Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito for the
crime of murder ... has been proven," the court said.
After
her conviction was thrown out, Knox, 24, returned immediately home to
Seattle. She was credited with time served for the conviction of slander
for accusing bar owner Diya "Patrick" Lumumba of carrying out the
killing.
Prosecutors contended a kitchen knife
found at Sollecito's house was the weapon because it matched wounds on
Kercher's body and carried traces of Kercher's DNA on the blade and
Knox's on the handle. However, the court-ordered review discredited the
DNA evidence, saying there were glaring errors in evidence-collecting
and that below-standard testing and possible contamination raised doubts
over the DNA traces on the blade and on Kercher's bra clasp.
In
addition, the defense cast doubt on the knife, questioning why Knox and
Sollecito would return it to Sollecito's home if it had been used in
the murder. They maintain the real weapon has yet to be found.
A
third defendant in the case, Rudy Hermann Guede of the Ivory Coast, was
convicted in a separate trial of sexually assaulting and stabbing
Kercher. His 16-year prison sentence - reduced on appeal from an initial
30 years - was upheld by Italy's highest court in 2010.
The
appeals court also expressed incredulity that the two would have
cooperated in such a crime with Guede, with whom there is no proof of
any relationship. "For example, there is no evidence of phone calls or
text messages between the three," the court said.
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Re: Murder of Meredith Kercher

Post  kitti on Sun 18 Dec - 10:46

What about the bloody footprints off Knox.

What about the fingerprint off her boyfriend on the bra clasp.

What about the framing off the pub boss.


What about the lies and the admitting she was there in her original statement, her FIRST statement.


What about the drug taking on that night.


There WAS blood on the knife that matched Meredith which was found in the boyfriends apt.


What about the fake break in.....someone who entered the house must off had a key.

What about knox and her boyfriend buying cleaning fluid at the shop.


What about Knox and her boyfriend NOT Informing the police off a break in when they supposedly got to the house ....they phoned the boyfriends family member who worked for the police to report the break in...why do that when the local police were already there.


Knox is guilty but the justice system has done what we expected them to do...fail the victim and let's not forget ....what goes around comes around.

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Post  Panda on Sun 18 Dec - 10:55

Morning Kitti,

I think this small village was overwhelmed by the Press, the World attention on the case and contamination of the forensic evidence was enough for the
Jurors to reverse the original decision for life to get back to normal. It"s hard on the Kerchers I know .

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Post  kitti on Fri 17 Feb - 8:12

Knox to make 4m dollars out off book about her time in prison.


She will also reveal something that has never been told about the case before....why didn't she reveal it when she was on trial..you ask.


The kerchers should get the book banned in the UK and seek damages from Knox .


She actually has to write the book as the parents owe a vast sum off money to lawyers who got her off and as someone on sky news reported this morning.....tasteless and leaves a bad taste in your mouth making money out off a murdered women and the book seems a celebration off AQUITAL and NOT innocence.

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Post  Panda on Fri 17 Feb - 8:17

Morning kitti, a new thread was started in Daily News about the Book Sale. It is being published by Harper Collins...take a look, alos the Italian Prosecutor
is making a complaint.

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Re: Murder of Meredith Kercher

Post  kitti on Tue 8 May - 14:47

Knox to Appeal against the libel case concerning her getting hit by italian police officers



The bloody cheek off the women.


Knoxs parents in court in Italy in September accused off libel....they went on tv and told everyone that their daughter was made to confess when the Italian police beat a confession out off her.

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Re: Murder of Meredith Kercher

Post  Panda on Thu 13 Sep - 13:32

Knox Ex Sollecito To Release Kercher Book


The ex-boyfriend of Amanda Knox is hoping his book will help answer questions surrounding the death of student Meredith Kercher.


10:33am UK, Wednesday 12 September 2012

Mr Sollecito and Miss Knox spent almost four years behind bars

Miss Kercher was killed in her Perugia house









Amanda Knox's ex-boyfriend has acknowledged that the couple's bizarre behaviour after the murder of Meredith Kercher may have led police to believe they were responsible.

Raffaele Sollecito, who was convicted and later cleared of murdering the British student in Italy almost five years ago, has described the nightmare of the aftermath of her death in a new book.

Mr Sollecito maintains the pair's innocence but says that police found their behaviour "odd" in the days after the killing.

He also acknowledges they had no "real alibi the night of November 1 except each other".

Miss Kercher, a 21-year-old from Leeds University, was found semi-naked and with her throat cut in a house she shared with American student Amanda Knox in Perugia in November 2007.

Miss Knox and Mr Sollecito were convicted in 2009 of killing Miss Kercher, from Coulsdon, Surrey, but were freed last October after the verdicts were overturned due to a lack of evidence.
Mr Sollecito says "kissing" pictures may have fuelled police suspicions
Rudy Guede, a petty criminal and drug dealer from the Ivory Coast, was convicted of sexually assaulting and murdering the student and is serving a 16-year sentence.

In his book, Honour Bound, which is published on September 18, Mr Sollecito writes that he met Miss Knox at a classical music concert at the Universita per Stranieri, the University for Foreigners, on October 25, 2007 – a week before Miss Kercher's death.

He asked for her number, and she told him to come by the bar where she would be working later that night.

At the end of the shift, he writes, they took a walk, held hands and kissed. She accepted an invitation to come back to his apartment and spent the night.
Knox was overcome with emotion after she was eventually cleared.
He describes how the early days of his relationship with Miss Knox became a nightmare with the horror of Miss Kercher's death, the suspicion of their involvement and their tabloid portrayals as two suspects unrecognisable to themselves.

Miss Knox came to be dubbed as "Foxy Knoxy" and received the brunt of the attention as she shopped for underwear after the killing and turned cartwheels in front of investigators.

Mr Sollecito also criticises the police for their handling of the case, suggesting they reached for a far-fetched conspiracy instead of the simpler explanation that Guede had on his own committed a burglary gone wrong.

He also writes about his first night in prison, saying he wavered between "great waves of indignation and a nagging sense of guilt".
Rudy Guede is serving a 16-year sentence for killing Meredith Kercher
He says that while he knew he was innocent, he was angry at himself for having a foggy memory of the night of the killing because he and Knox had smoked marijuana.

When they were finally acquitted, Mr Sollecito writes that he felt "indescribable joy".

Miss Knox is also writing a book, due out next spring, in a deal reportedly worth £2.5m.

Prosecutors have appealed against the acquittal of Mr Sollecito and Miss Knox, and Italy's highest court will hear their arguments in March.

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Post  kitti on Sun 16 Sep - 15:17

If Amanda Knox is innocent so are kate and Gerry McCann.


There is a long article written by a criminal profiler who goes through Everything that was said by Knox .....the statements plus other things and she is under no doubt that Knox is guilty off murder.


She doesn't think that Knox dealt the final blow but she was there and and she was part off it....she says she thinks as Knox didn't deal the fatal blow that Knox disassociated herself from blame in the murder.

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Post  Panda on Sun 16 Sep - 16:47

Another case of profiting from crime !!! Let's hope the case will be re-opened.

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Re: Murder of Meredith Kercher

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Post  James on Sun 16 Sep - 17:29

I dont know what to make of this case.

To kill someone you need a motive and I don't see what motive Amanda Knox had.

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Post  Panda on Sun 16 Sep - 17:47

James wrote:I dont know what to make of this case.

To kill someone you need a motive and I don't see what motive Amanda Knox had.

James, I think they were high on drink or drugs, Meredith had not been in Italy very long and was probably naiive . Her Murder was as much a sensation as Madeleine's disappearance. Press camped out in the village, Police overwhelmed .

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Post  James on Sun 16 Sep - 18:04

Panda wrote:
James wrote:I dont know what to make of this case.

To kill someone you need a motive and I don't see what motive Amanda Knox had.

James, I think they were high on drink or drugs, Meredith had not been in Italy very long and was probably naiive . Her Murder was as much a sensation as Madeleine's disappearance. Press camped out in the village, Police overwhelmed .

I have long suspected a lethal cocktail of drink and drugs could have led to horseplay that lead to accidental death. I find it hard to accept there was a deliberate intention to harm meredith, and you need intent for a murder charge. The drink/drugs would have affected Knox and boyfriends memories of what occured and they might actually believe they were not involved. Like Madeleine i doubt if we will ever know the truth about poor meredith's death.

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Re: Murder of Meredith Kercher

Post  Panda on Sun 16 Sep - 18:25

James wrote:
Panda wrote:
James wrote:I dont know what to make of this case.

To kill someone you need a motive and I don't see what motive Amanda Knox had.

James, I think they were high on drink or drugs, Meredith had not been in Italy very long and was probably naiive . Her Murder was as much a sensation as Madeleine's disappearance. Press camped out in the village, Police overwhelmed .

I have long suspected a lethal cocktail of drink and drugs could have led to horseplay that lead to accidental death. I find it hard to accept there was a deliberate intention to harm meredith, and you need intent for a murder charge. The drink/drugs would have affected Knox and boyfriends memories of what occured and they might actually believe they were not involved. Like Madeleine i doubt if we will ever know the truth about poor meredith's death.

The parallel to the Mccann case is very strong James, PDL/ a small Italian village, the Police in Italy contaminated some of the evidence, the McCanns had the Tapas Group in 5a before the Police or forensics arrived, contaminating any prints not theirs. Kerchers Family started a campaign and had US support and media attention, the McCanns had similar support.

If the case is reopened maybe some new evidence will be found. The Prosecutor is convinced they are guilty.



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Post  kitti on Sun 16 Sep - 18:45

A motive .....Knox didn't like meredith at all.....meridith, the english rose, Knox.....well we all know what she was like.


Meredith had money stolen from her room and embarrassed Knox by accusing her.


Meredith didn't like knox bringing men home late at night, different men, and Knox left evidence lying around that she was having sex with them, she never cleaned up after her....knox's hygiene left a lot to be desired.


People liked Meredith, they didn't like Knox.



Someone who and a key to the apt let themselves in.....and that was Knox .


Knox was jealous off Meredith .....not a motive perhaps but along with other things.....



IMO Knox was bringing the black guy back for a reason......they were all high on drugs.....a 'date' it has been said by the prosecutors.

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Post  kitti on Mon 25 Mar - 9:30

A board in Italy will be sitting today to see if Knox can stand trial for the death off Meredith...


Knox was acquitted ....after being found guilty off murder....on DNA evidence.....I.e. The knife ....that it was unreliable.


Knox was not acquitted as people think on other evidence, that was not heard at the appeal trial, it was just the DNA which was blood and degraded that was allowed to be heard and aquitted her.


I really HOPE but won't hold my breath that their will be a retrial...the money the new trial will cost will be a factor that that probably WON'T be a trial.


If there is, I hope Knox spends the next 20 years fighting and using her Ill gotten gains from the book, extradition to Italy.

Karma has a funny way off catching up with you.


There is also talk off new evidence against Knox .

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Post  kitti on Mon 25 Mar - 9:37

5) The false confession.
The defence said that when Knox "confessed" to being in the house on the night of the murder and could remember hearing Miss Kercher scream, she was traumatised and acting under extreme psychological pressure after an all night interrogation by police. Knox told the trial that during the questioning she had been cuffed around the head by an officer and told that if she did not start cooperating she would face decades in jail. She was questioned without a lawyer being present and at the time she knew only basic Italian.




That above was the defence for the confession.


Police officers from the Italian police are suing Knox because she lied about them hitting her.


So if that is a lie then everything she says is a lie....she had to make up something because she confessed to being there so she said she made it up because they threatened her.

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Post  kitti on Mon 25 Mar - 10:20

And don't forget TWO knives were used one off which was never found.

One person could not off killed Meredith, she would off had to off been held down.


Pre planning ....I don't know about that, Knox certainly went there with intent, intent with what, I dont know.


Knox was found guilty on the evidence in the trial .

Knox was aquitted at the appeal due to the DNA on the knife being 'unreliable'.


There are so many unanswered questions that only Knox can answer and she needs to do that if she wants to draw a line underneath this and finally prove her innocence...it won't happen if there isn't a retrial, she has not been found innocent before a court off law, DNA is just part off the evidence .

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Re: Murder of Meredith Kercher

Post  Panda on Mon 25 Mar - 11:50

Amanda Knox Awaits Kercher Retrial Decision


Italy's Supreme Court is deciding whether Amanda Knox and
Raffaele Sollecito should be tried again over Meredith Kercher's murder.



9:35am UK, Monday
25 March 2013

Amanda Knox (left) was acquitted of the murder of
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  • By Nick Pisa, Sky News Reporter

    The sister of murdered student Meredith Kercher has spoken of the
    "unanswered questions" surrounding her death, ahead of a final court appeal.

    Stephanie Kercher said she hoped for answers as Italian Supreme Court judges
    decide whether to order Amanda Knox and her former boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito
    to stand trial again or to completely close the case.

    Miss Kercher, 21, was found semi-naked and with her throat cut in her bedroom
    in the house she shared with fellow student Ms Knox and two other women in the
    town of Perugia.

    Her sister said: "There are lots of questions without answers and that's why
    we are looking for the truth.

    "We miss Meredith terribly and nothing will bring her back. We hope that the
    Supreme Court hearing will help to find some answers to what happened that night
    in November 2007 when our lives changed forever.

    "We still get messages of support from all over the world. Meredith will
    never be forgotten but it's also important not to forget what happened, a
    beautiful young girl, my little sister, taken away from us too early in a brutal
    manner, with many aspects to still clarify.''
    Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito were
    acquitted on appeal
    Ms Knox, 25, and Mr Sollecito, 29, were initially found guilty of murder in
    2009, with Ms Knox sentenced to 26 years in jail and Mr Sollecito handed a
    25-year term.

    But at their appeal in October 2011, defence lawyers and experts revealed how
    evidence had been contaminated or poorly handled by forensic teams and that the
    conviction should be considered unsafe.

    They were immediately freed with Ms Knox returning to her home in Seattle
    while Mr Sollecito went back to Bisceglie on the southern Italian coast near
    Bari.

    Today's hearing will be behind closed doors with neither of them in
    attendance, and only their lawyers representing them.

    A panel of judges will rule whether the Italian legal code was applied
    correctly and fairly in both trials, and if they find grounds they can order a
    retrial - as prosecutors in Perugia have demanded - or they can close the case
    completely.

    The case will be decided purely on paperwork and legal documents with no new
    witnesses giving evidence. A decision is expected by late this evening.

    Luciano Ghirga, Ms Knox's lawyer, said: "She is very anxious about the
    hearing but she is waiting for it knowing full well that the outcome is very
    important."
    Meredith Kercher's mother, brother and
    sister
    Since returning to the US, she has maintained a low profile although she has
    written a book about her four years in an Italian jail and is due to give an
    interview to American TV station ABC next month ahead of its release.

    Mr Sollecito has also written a book and has already given an interview on
    Italian TV about the case where he said he and Ms Knox were no longer lovers but
    were still in touch - he visited her earlier this year and they speak on Skype
    regularly.

    His father, Francesco, said: "He is working hard on his studies. He's working
    on a project involving the movement of surgical instruments during operations.
    He is calm and serene even if we are all in a state of apprehension.''

    Miss Knox and Mr Sollecito have always insisted they are innocent of
    murdering Miss Kercher, from Coulsdon, Surrey.

    She had only been in Italy for two months before she was killed, having
    arrived for a year-long course as part of her Leeds University degree.

    Drifter Rudy Guede is serving 16 years for the murder having initially being
    sentenced to 30 but this was later reduced on appeal.




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Post  kitti on Mon 25 Mar - 11:59

Let's see if they are prepared to spend millions on a retrial...it all boils down to money I'm afraid.

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Post  Panda on Mon 25 Mar - 12:25

kitti wrote:Let's see if they are prepared to spend millions on a retrial...it all boils down to money I'm afraid.
Yes Kitti Italy's economy is not looking too good. Ironic isn't it that both this case and the McCanns cost the Police in both Countries millions of Euros without a result , yet the accused made a Fortune!!!!!

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Amanda Knox broke

Post  kitti on Mon 20 May - 7:05

Amanda Knox has just about run through the $ 4 million advance she received for her book, Waiting To Be Heard.

“I don’t know what I am going to do. The future is very unsure for me financially,” Knox told the Toronto Post.

Knox was convicted in 2009 of the murder two years earlier of her former exchange student housemate Meredith Kercher.  The conviction was overturned in 2011 but an Italian court has now ruled she can be retried for the brutal crime.

PHOTOS: Amanda Knox Out And About In Seattle

Knox hasn’t been out buying fancy cars and yachts with her money from the memoir.

She paid her legal bills and reimbursed her parents for the $1.5 million in debt they ran up during four years of travel back and forth to Perugia, Italy so they could be by her side.  She also went back to college, at the University of Washington, and she’s facing new legal bills for the retrial.

Her book has also exposed her to a string of possible lawsuits from Italian officials who claim she’s defamed them.


“People asked me if I would change the book and I said absolutely not. I am not going to change my story just because someone is threatening to sue me but I mean … it sucks. It sucks and it sucks,” she said.

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Post  kitti on Mon 27 May - 14:24

'I'm not going to change my story'....



You wait till they are found guilty.....the b/f will be changing his story ..I can vouch for that.

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Knox acquittal.......full off mistakes

Post  kitti on Wed 19 Jun - 7:34

Knox acquittal 'full of mistakes'

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The acquittal of accused murderer Amanda Knox was full of "deficiencies, contradictions and illogical" conclusions Italy's high court has ruled, ordering a fresh look at all the evidence to determine whether she did kill her flatmate Meredith Kercher.

In March, the Court of Cassation overturned Knox's acquittal in the 2007 murder of British student Ms Kercher and ordered a new trial. The court has now issued its written reasoning.

Ms Kercher's body was found in November 2007 in her bedroom of the house she shared with Knox in Perugia.

Knox, now 25, and her Italian ex-boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, 29, were initially convicted and sentenced to lengthy prison terms, but a Perugia appeals court acquitted them in 2011, criticising virtually the entire case mounted by prosecutors. The appellate court noted that the murder weapon was never found, said that DNA tests were faulty and that prosecutors provided no murder motive.

A man from Ivory Coast, Rudy Guede, was convicted of the mruder in a separate hearing and is serving a 16-year sentence.

In the 74-page Cassation ruling, the high court judges said they "had to recognize that he (Guede) was not the sole author" of the crime. The judges though said he was the "main protagonist."

They said the new appeal process would serve to "not only demonstrate the presence of the two suspects in the place of the crime, but to possibly outline the subjective position of Guede's accomplices." It said hypotheses ran from a simple case of forced sex involving Kercher "to a group erotic game that blew up and got out of control."

The high court faulted the Perugia appeals court for "multiple instances of deficiencies, contradictions and illogical" conclusions. The new court must conduct a full examination of evidence to resolve the ambiguities, it said.

Knox left Italy a free woman after her 2011 acquittal, after serving nearly four years of a 26-year prison sentence. Now a student in Seattle, she has called the reversal by the Cassation "painful" but said she was confident she would be exonerated. Italian law cannot compel her to return for the new trial and her lawyers have said she has no plans to do so.

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So the ex boyfriend has skulked into the USA so HE and KNOX can't be extradited when found guilty........

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