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Post  fedrules Tue 3 Aug - 14:30

One thing that has always struck me though about the McCanns, is that they use the present tense when talking about Maddie. If you hadn't seen your child for over 3 years, it would be more natural to refer to her in the past tense..
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Post  AnnaEsse Tue 3 Aug - 14:43

fedrules wrote:One thing that has always struck me though about the McCanns, is that they use the present tense when talking about Maddie. If you hadn't seen your child for over 3 years, it would be more natural to refer to her in the past tense..

I agree and I think they're using the present tense as a deliberate ploy to make the public think they actually believe their daughter is alive. Even if she were alive, she'd hardly be the child they knew. If she had been taken by strangers who have looked after her, the initial trauma itself would have had a big effect and then there is her adaptation to a new environment and possibly another language: if she had been taken by kind strangers!

However, if, as the McCanns have tried to make the world believe, Madeleine was taken by paedophiles and is still alive, the present tense would be totally irrelevant because what Madeleine was would not be how she is.
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Post  Panda Tue 3 Aug - 15:43

Justiceforallkids wrote:
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What is a "Unit" the Family lived in? Is it a Caravan? If there were stray cats around it suggests a not "very
desirable" residence and the fact that Kiesha was allowed to run around looking for stray cats was hardly
good parenting of a 6 yr old.

a unit is a flat/apartment

Thanks, I think the circumstances surrounding Kiesha"s disappearance are very suspicious and the fact that a
Homicide Unit has been brought in suggests the Police also suspect foul play. If in fact it turns out that this child is dead, Social Services must take some responsibility, maybe she should have been taken into care earlier. Let"s not forget Baby Peter.
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Post  halfamo Tue 3 Aug - 16:24

I have a bad feeling about this one , not looking good for this little girl , strange she was kept off school .It does'nt bode well for a safe return, lets hope we're all wrong and she's safe ,but its looking grim for her.
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Post  pennylane Tue 3 Aug - 17:09

That poor little girl. I feel this is going to be another Baby 'P' story... in that the authorities ignored all the blatant signs of abuse.
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Post  fishie Tue 3 Aug - 17:14

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/national/missing-kiesha-knew-lifes-harsh-cruelty/story-e6frf7l6-1225900839751


Missing Kiesha knew life's harsh cruelty

By Clementine Cuneo and Gemma Jones From:The Daily Telegraph August 04, 2010
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Kiesha Abrahams' mother Kristi Abrahams and partner Rob Smith make a public appeal over the whereabouts of their six-year-old child. Pictures: John Grainger Source: Supplied

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Kiesha Abrahams has been missing since Saturday Source: Supplied
Kiesha suffered bite wound in past - source

Girl was known to government departments
Details of her life can't be reported

A TRAGIC picture of little Kiesha Abrahams' life was emerging yesterday as homicide police joined the search for the missing six-year-old.

Police sources revealed that, as a toddler, Kiesha was admitted to a western Sydney hospital with a bite wound inflicted by an adult.

The injury suffered by the pretty blue-eyed girl was yesterday described by a source as a "significant bite wound".

It has also emerged that Kiesha was known to numerous government departments, such as education and health.

But most of the harrowing details of her life cannot be reported for legal reasons.

Kiesha was last seen at 9.30pm on Saturday when her mother, Kristi Abrahams, put her to bed in pink pyjamas and a purple Pumpkin Patch jacket at their apartment block unit on Woodstock Ave at Hebersham, in Sydney's west.

She was reported missing on Sunday morning after her mother discovered her bed empty and the front door ajar, although it showed no sign of forced entry.


Relatives yesterday speculated Kiesha may have been abducted while playing with stray cats.

Facing the media yesterday, Kiesha's mother howled as she begged for her "beautiful" girl's safe return.

"If anyone has seen her, can they please tell the police," Ms Abrahams said.

Step-grandfather Rodney Jones said Kiesha loved the cats which lived near the family's unit.

"Kiesha is always playing with cats . . . maybe she had got up and gone out to play with the cats and someone got her there," Mr Jones said.

He said the family had watched a movie - The Golden Compass - on Saturday night, then Kiesha was put to bed about 9pm.

Police yesterday confirmed Ms Abrahams and her partner Robert Smith were the only two people to see the child in the three weeks leading up to her mysterious disappearance.

"It's been a living hell," Mr Smith said.

Kiesha had not attended school for the past week and yesterday it was revealed she had only been to school for five days this year.

Homicide squad Detective Inspector Russell Oxford said police still held hope Kiesha would be found alive.

A massive search of the surrounding area continued yesterday, with SES workers knocking on doors in the area and requesting access to backyards to look for Kiesha.

Police media yesterday admitted bungling the first information release about Kiesha's disappearance after the number for a Blacktown car yard was left for people to call if they had information.

Six subsequent information releases carried the correct number for Crime Stoppers.

Staff have been providing callers with the correct number, a police media spokeswoman said.

Anyone with information about Kiesha's whereabouts should call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.
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Post  Sandi Tue 3 Aug - 17:21

Unfortunately halfamo so do I.

Poor child.

But I must say I am sick of seeing these people on TV, with their T-Shirts on advertising their child. If that was my child getting T-Shirts printed and organising stuff like that is sordid to me. I would be too busy trying to find my child and helping the Police all I could.

You watch some of these missing children's parents, they arrange press conferences, tarted up to the nines and acting like new famed celebs.

Unfortunately it is a sad fact of life when children go missing that are in their teens, the chances of them living half a decent life are nil. If they are not murdered, they are either forced into prostitution and ultimately end up on drugs. Seedy joints, back streets, druggie alley, red light districts and cardboard city are the places you are more than likely to find out what really has happened to your runaway child not the local tourist areas and bars.

Phoney detectives, funds, websites, t-shirts, wristbands, and cuddly toys are not going to get your child back, the Police are the only people that can help and to be honest I am sick now of hearing about a child going missing and funds being set up and fund-raising.

I am not defending the McCanns but you only have to look around and see the Fund accounts that are being set up, at least with the McCanns they created a company and you get to see some form of accounts. But some of these Funds being set up are being done so even without the pretence of any form of officialdom and are not even producing accounts just details of where to hand over your money.





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Post  AnnaEsse Tue 3 Aug - 19:07

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She's got her face covered again, but it's this information about her daughter that makes me want to weep. I feel no sympathy for this woman.

A TRAGIC picture of little Kiesha Abrahams' life was emerging yesterday as homicide police joined the search for the missing six-year-old.

Police sources revealed that, as a toddler, Kiesha was admitted to a western Sydney hospital with a bite wound inflicted by an adult.

The injury suffered by the pretty blue-eyed girl was yesterday described by a source as a "significant bite wound".

It has also emerged that Kiesha was known to numerous government departments, such as education and health.

But most of the harrowing details of her life cannot be reported for legal reasons.

Kiesha was last seen at 9.30pm on Saturday when her mother, Kristi Abrahams, put her to bed in pink pyjamas and a purple Pumpkin Patch jacket at their apartment block unit on Woodstock Ave at Hebersham, in Sydney's west.

She was reported missing on Sunday morning after her mother discovered her bed empty and the front door ajar, although it showed no sign of forced entry.

Relatives yesterday speculated Kiesha may have been abducted while playing with stray cats.

Facing the media yesterday, Kiesha's mother howled as she begged for her "beautiful" girl's safe return.

"If anyone has seen her, can they please tell the police," Ms Abrahams said.

Step-grandfather Rodney Jones said Kiesha loved the cats which lived near the family's unit.

"Kiesha is always playing with cats . . . maybe she had got up and gone out to play with the cats and someone got her there," Mr Jones said.

He said the family had watched a movie - The Golden Compass - on Saturday night, then Kiesha was put to bed about 9pm.

Police yesterday confirmed Ms Abrahams and her partner Robert Smith were the only two people to see the child in the three weeks leading up to her mysterious disappearance.

"It's been a living hell," Mr Smith said.

Kiesha had not attended school for the past week and yesterday it was revealed she had only been to school for five days this year.

Homicide squad Detective Inspector Russell Oxford said police still held hope Kiesha would be found alive.

A massive search of the surrounding area continued yesterday, with SES workers knocking on doors in the area and requesting access to backyards to look for Kiesha.

Police media yesterday admitted bungling the first information release about Kiesha's disappearance after the number for a Blacktown car yard was left for people to call if they had information.

Six subsequent information releases carried the correct number for Crime Stoppers.

Staff have been providing callers with the correct number, a police media spokeswoman said.

Anyone with information about Kiesha's whereabouts should call Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.
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Post  AnnaEsse Tue 3 Aug - 20:48

Sydney Morning Herald

THE disappearance of six-year-old Kiesha Abrahams from her Mount Druitt home has raised questions about the actions of welfare authorities, who were previously concerned about her well-being and substance abuse in her family.

Government agencies declined to comment yesterday about their involvement with the family, but questions remain about when the child was last seen by outsiders.

Meanwhile, specialist homicide and sex crime detectives joined the investigation - an ominous sign that hope is fading, although officers were still talking of finding her ''safe and well''.

Kiesha's mother and stepfather appeared at a news conference yesterday, but her mother, Kristi Abrahams, broke down and was unable to speak after appealing for ''anyone that's seen her [to] … please go to the police''.

She wore dark glasses, held a tissue in front of her face, and sobbed hysterically - leading contributors to a Facebook support site to speculate about her reactions.

Her partner, Robert Smith, said the past few days had been ''hell''. ''I can't describe what it's like in my shoes … you can't imagine the last few days. It gets harder by the minute.''

Police said Kiesha had not been to school since her brother, Levi, was born 3½ weeks ago. They also said it appeared the last time anyone other than direct family members had seen Kiesha was the weekend of July 7 and 8, which coincided with Levi's birth.

However, Mr Smith said he had last seen his stepdaughter when they were sitting at home, watching The Golden Compass on Saturday night. The PG-rated film finished at 9.50pm.

Ms Abrahams had told police she put her daughter to bed at 9.30pm and noticed her missing at 10am on Sunday, though she had told a friend she noticed her daughter gone about 9am. The Herald understand Ms Abrahams was unable to be interviewed by investigators on Sunday morning.

Asked if he had any suspicions where Kiesha might be, Mr Smith said: ''I have no idea. If I had any idea we'd be there looking.''

He described her as a ''bubbly girl'' who loved playing with her sister and cousins.

Superintendent Wayne Cox, the commander at Mount Druitt Police, said State Emergency Service volunteers and police were still searching bushland in Bidwill, Shalvey and Whalan Reserve.

Detective Inspector Russell Oxford from the homicide squad said: ''We are now three days into the investigation. We have done an extensive search, we have done an extensive doorknock.''

Police denied reports that an investigation at the family's home had failed to find any clothing belonging to the child."
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Post  docmac Tue 3 Aug - 20:49

AnnaEsse wrote:

Police sources revealed that, as a toddler, Kiesha was admitted to a western Sydney hospital with a bite wound inflicted by an adult.

The injury suffered by the pretty blue-eyed girl was yesterday described by a source as a "significant bite wound".


Oh dear. Evidence of adult bite wounds - either in the medical history record or on examination (and cigarette burns or evidence of healed, yet unexplained fractures too, btw) are very, very, VERY bad signs. Old, scarred lesions on young, 'unexplained' DOAs almost inevitably suggest filicide. How sad for this little girl. In combination with the rest of the information there can be only one result - she was disposed of.

This is something that bugged me enormously about the McCann case. What was in Madeleine's medical files? Was there something that, if discovered, would suggest a clearcut answer to her 'disappearance'?
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Post  fishie Tue 3 Aug - 21:48

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/welfare-agencies-had-fears-for-missing-child-20100803-115g3.html?autostart=1

Welfare agencies had fears for missing child

GEESCHE JACOBSEN AND CALLAN LAWRENCE
August 4, 2010





Family members appeal for information on Kiesha Abrahams in the three weeks prior to the disappearance of the Mount Druitt 6-year-old.
Call CRIME STOPPERS: 1800 333 000.

THE disappearance of six-year-old Kiesha Abrahams from her Mount Druitt home has raised questions about the actions of welfare authorities, who were previously concerned about her well-being and substance abuse in her family.

Government agencies declined to comment yesterday about their involvement with the family, but questions remain about when the child was last seen by outsiders.

Meanwhile, specialist homicide and sex crime detectives joined the investigation - an ominous sign that hope is fading, although officers were still talking of finding her ''safe and well''.

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Hysterical ... Robert Smith and Kristi Abrahams yesterday, and Kiesha Abrahams, reported missing on Sunday.

Hysterical ... Robert Smith and Kristi Abrahams yesterday, and Kiesha Abrahams, reported missing on Sunday. Photo: Gene Ramirez, Nick Moir


Kiesha's mother and stepfather appeared at a news conference yesterday, but her mother, Kristi Abrahams, broke down and was unable to speak after appealing for ''anyone that's seen her [to] … please go to the police''.

She wore dark glasses, held a tissue in front of her face, and sobbed hysterically - leading contributors to a Facebook support site to speculate about her reactions.

Her partner, Robert Smith, said the past few days had been ''hell''. ''I can't describe what it's like in my shoes … you can't imagine the last few days. It gets harder by the minute.''

Police said Kiesha had not been to school since her brother, Levi, was born 3½ weeks ago. They also said it appeared the last time anyone other than direct family members had seen Kiesha was the weekend of July 7 and 8, which coincided with Levi's birth.

However, Mr Smith said he had last seen his stepdaughter when they were sitting at home, watching The Golden Compass on Saturday night. The PG-rated film finished at 9.50pm.

Ms Abrahams had told police she put her daughter to bed at 9.30pm and noticed her missing at 10am on Sunday, though she had told a friend she noticed her daughter gone about 9am. The Herald understand Ms Abrahams was unable to be interviewed by investigators on Sunday morning.

Asked if he had any suspicions where Kiesha might be, Mr Smith said: ''I have no idea. If I had any idea we'd be there looking.''

He described her as a ''bubbly girl'' who loved playing with her sister and cousins.

Superintendent Wayne Cox, the commander at Mount Druitt Police, said State Emergency Service volunteers and police were still searching bushland in Bidwill, Shalvey and Whalan Reserve.

Detective Inspector Russell Oxford from the homicide squad said: ''We are now three days into the investigation. We have done an extensive search, we have done an extensive doorknock.''

Police denied reports that an investigation at the family's home had failed to find any clothing belonging to the child.
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Post  lynn Tue 3 Aug - 21:56

History repeating itself. No body, so no evidence. A little girl lost on earth. The DTs are onto the family though which is good.
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Post  AnnaEsse Tue 3 Aug - 21:58

It is my opinion that Kiesha's mother has had three weeks to dispose of her child's body and it is unlikely to be found. Substance abuse, a child who had a serious adult bite on her, welfare agencies concerned and she has not been seen for three weeks. Sadly, Kiesha is gone I think.
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Post  lynn Tue 3 Aug - 22:28

AnnaEsse wrote:It is my opinion that Kiesha's mother has had three weeks to dispose of her child's body and it is unlikely to be found. Substance abuse, a child who had a serious adult bite on her, welfare agencies concerned and she has not been seen for three weeks. Sadly, Kiesha is gone I think.

Madeleine could have gone before the said date too. Enough time to hide evidence.
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Post  Justiceforallkids Wed 4 Aug - 4:45



The search for missing six-year-old Kiesha Abrahams from Sydney s west has entered its fourth day.

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The search for missing six-year-old Kiesha Abrahams has entered its fourth day, with no new leads emerging overnight.

A total of 115 searchers are trawling bushland at Shalvey and Bidwill on Wednesday, about two kilometres from Kiesha's home at Mount Druitt in Sydney's west.

They will then canvass homes in the area in the hope of finding new information about her whereabouts, a police spokesman said.

Kiesha, described as a happy, quiet child, was last seen at 9.30pm (AEST) on Saturday when her mother, Kristi Abrahams, put her to bed in pink pyjamas and a purple Pumpkin Patch jacket at their unit on Woodstock Ave.

She was reported missing on Sunday morning after her mother discovered her bed empty and the front door ajar, although it showed no sign of forced entry.

Homicide detectives have taken charge of the hunt.

Police said they were puzzled that no one except her parents appeared to have seen Kiesha in the past three weeks.

They say her grandmother last saw her on July 7, when the girl visited her newborn brother in hospital.

Ms Abrahams and Kiesha's stepfather, Robert Smith, have made an emotional appeal for help in finding Kiesha, saying they are going through hell.

"It gets harder by the minute," Mr Smith told reporters at Mount Druitt on Tuesday.
Anyone who has seen Kiesha, described as about 140cm tall with blonde hair and blue eyes, should phone Mount Druitt police on 9675 0000 or Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.
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Post  AnnaEsse Wed 4 Aug - 7:25

Justiceforallkids wrote:

The search for missing six-year-old Kiesha Abrahams from Sydney s west has entered its fourth day.

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The search for missing six-year-old Kiesha Abrahams has entered its fourth day, with no new leads emerging overnight.

A total of 115 searchers are trawling bushland at Shalvey and Bidwill on Wednesday, about two kilometres from Kiesha's home at Mount Druitt in Sydney's west.

They will then canvass homes in the area in the hope of finding new information about her whereabouts, a police spokesman said.

Kiesha, described as a happy, quiet child, was last seen at 9.30pm (AEST) on Saturday when her mother, Kristi Abrahams, put her to bed in pink pyjamas and a purple Pumpkin Patch jacket at their unit on Woodstock Ave.

She was reported missing on Sunday morning after her mother discovered her bed empty and the front door ajar, although it showed no sign of forced entry.

Homicide detectives have taken charge of the hunt.

Police said they were puzzled that no one except her parents appeared to have seen Kiesha in the past three weeks.

They say her grandmother last saw her on July 7, when the girl visited her newborn brother in hospital.

Ms Abrahams and Kiesha's stepfather, Robert Smith, have made an emotional appeal for help in finding Kiesha, saying they are going through hell.

"It gets harder by the minute," Mr Smith told reporters at Mount Druitt on Tuesday.
Anyone who has seen Kiesha, described as about 140cm tall with blonde hair and blue eyes, should phone Mount Druitt police on 9675 0000 or Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

If Kiesha's grandmother had been used to seeing her regularly and had not seen her for a while, I wonder if she asked about her and what answers she received.
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Post  fred Wed 4 Aug - 8:27

The plot thickens with this! Is there any update anyone?
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Post  AnnaEsse Wed 4 Aug - 9:13

fred wrote:The plot thickens with this! Is there any update anyone?

Fred, this is the latest from the Sydney Morning Herald

Police have stepped up the hunt for missing six-year-old Kiesha Abrahams in western Sydney as the investigation into her disappearance moved into its fourth day.

An expanded team of 120 searchers, including police, Rural Fire Service (RFS) and State Emergency Service (SES) volunteers, spent Wednesday trawling bushland two kilometres from Kiesha's Woodstock Avenue home at Mount Druitt in Sydney's west.

They then canvassed homes in the neighbourhood in the hope of gaining some new information about Kiesha's whereabouts.Police are trying to construct a detailed picture of life in the western Sydney home of missing girl Kiesha Abrahams in the weeks following her half-brother's birth as the desperate search for the six-year-old enters its fourth day.

The officer in charge of Strike Force Jarocin, Detective Inspector Russell Oxford, said the last time anyone outside Kiesha's immediate family remembers seeing her is on or about the time of the birth of her half-brother, Levi Smith, on July 7.

Investigators believe the three weeks following Levi's birth are crucial in figuring out what has happened to Kiesha, who was reported missing by her mother, Kristi Abrahams, on Sunday morning.

"The grandmother has seen Kiesha around about the 7th or 9th of July, which is probably at least three or so weeks ago," Detective Inspector Oxford told 2UE today.

"It's a bit troubling for us because certainly, while the parents say the child was there on the weekend, it's the lead-up time that's important to us because we need to know what might have caused this to occur.

"Is there something in her life that's occurred where she's come across somebody or has somebody been around the house during that time?" he asked.

Police and SES volunteers worked through last night door-knocking residents in the Bidwill and Shalvey area after combing nearby bushland.

Detective Inspector Oxford said "mountains of information" came out of the door-knock but time was against investigators.

"We're into day four and the longer it goes obviously the worse it is," he said.

It has emerged that welfare authorities had concerns about Kiesha's health and safety, as well as substance abuse in her family.

Detective Inspector Oxford said police were aware of reports the kindergarten student was admitted to hospital as a toddler with a bite mark inflicted by an adult.

"That is being looked at ... but it's not helping us find the young child," Detective Inspector Oxford said.

He appealed again for members of the public to call police if they had any information about Kiesha's life or current whereabouts.

"Somebody must have seen this young girl," he said.

"You can imagine the grief [her parents are] going through and you'd think that if somebody has some information they've got to come forward and help us."

Ms Abrahams and Kiesha's stepfather, Robert Smith, went back to their Mount Druitt flat last night after spending a few nights at the Bidwill home of Mr Smith's mother, Rebecca Smith.

Mrs Smith said the couple were not coping well under the strain of Kiesha's disappearance.

"If it goes on too much longer we might have to get [Ms Abrahams] to a doctor or something. She's not good," she said.

Police have denied reports that an investigation at the family's home had failed to find any clothing belonging to the child.

Anyone with information should phone Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.
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fred wrote:The plot thickens with this! Is there any update anyone?

Fred, this is the latest from the Sydney Morning Herald

Police have stepped up the hunt for missing six-year-old Kiesha Abrahams in western Sydney as the investigation into her disappearance moved into its fourth day.

An expanded team of 120 searchers, including police, Rural Fire Service (RFS) and State Emergency Service (SES) volunteers, spent Wednesday trawling bushland two kilometres from Kiesha's Woodstock Avenue home at Mount Druitt in Sydney's west.

They then canvassed homes in the neighbourhood in the hope of gaining some new information about Kiesha's whereabouts.Police are trying to construct a detailed picture of life in the western Sydney home of missing girl Kiesha Abrahams in the weeks following her half-brother's birth as the desperate search for the six-year-old enters its fourth day.

The officer in charge of Strike Force Jarocin, Detective Inspector Russell Oxford, said the last time anyone outside Kiesha's immediate family remembers seeing her is on or about the time of the birth of her half-brother, Levi Smith, on July 7.

Investigators believe the three weeks following Levi's birth are crucial in figuring out what has happened to Kiesha, who was reported missing by her mother, Kristi Abrahams, on Sunday morning.

"The grandmother has seen Kiesha around about the 7th or 9th of July, which is probably at least three or so weeks ago," Detective Inspector Oxford told 2UE today.

"It's a bit troubling for us because certainly, while the parents say the child was there on the weekend, it's the lead-up time that's important to us because we need to know what might have caused this to occur.

"Is there something in her life that's occurred where she's come across somebody or has somebody been around the house during that time?" he asked.

Police and SES volunteers worked through last night door-knocking residents in the Bidwill and Shalvey area after combing nearby bushland.

Detective Inspector Oxford said "mountains of information" came out of the door-knock but time was against investigators.

"We're into day four and the longer it goes obviously the worse it is," he said.

It has emerged that welfare authorities had concerns about Kiesha's health and safety, as well as substance abuse in her family.

Detective Inspector Oxford said police were aware of reports the kindergarten student was admitted to hospital as a toddler with a bite mark inflicted by an adult.

"That is being looked at ... but it's not helping us find the young child," Detective Inspector Oxford said.

He appealed again for members of the public to call police if they had any information about Kiesha's life or current whereabouts.

"Somebody must have seen this young girl," he said.

"You can imagine the grief [her parents are] going through and you'd think that if somebody has some information they've got to come forward and help us."

Ms Abrahams and Kiesha's stepfather, Robert Smith, went back to their Mount Druitt flat last night after spending a few nights at the Bidwill home of Mr Smith's mother, Rebecca Smith.

Mrs Smith said the couple were not coping well under the strain of Kiesha's disappearance.

"If it goes on too much longer we might have to get [Ms Abrahams] to a doctor or something. She's not good," she said.

Police have denied reports that an investigation at the family's home had failed to find any clothing belonging to the child.

Anyone with information should phone Crime Stoppers on 1800 333 000.

omg anna my dad belives the parents are involved with this yet says the mcanns are innocent hypocrite much???? he says its because the mcanns are drs!!!!
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omg anna my dad belives the parents are involved with this yet says the mcanns are innocent hypocrite much???? he says its because the mcanns are drs!!!!

Carly, doctors are not saints. They have often been regarded as such, but I can tell you a good few bedtime stories that will keep you awake for a month. And these are stories that never made it to the papers. Or a disciplinary hearing.
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omg anna my dad belives the parents are involved with this yet says the mcanns are innocent hypocrite much???? he says its because the mcanns are drs!!!!

Carly, doctors are not saints. They have often been regarded as such, but I can tell you a good few bedtime stories that will keep you awake for a month. And these are stories that never made it to the papers. Or a disciplinary hearing.
exactly....... even my mum said both parents are the same both little girls have vanished.............. Kiesha Abrahams mum is aborginal and from what police are saying does drugs etc they are known sometimes for things like this..... not saying all aborginals are like this but you know what i mean my brother who is apolice officer deals with many aborginals in cairns and their main issues is alchohol
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omg anna my dad belives the parents are involved with this yet says the mcanns are innocent hypocrite much???? he says its because the mcanns are drs!!!!

Carly, doctors are not saints. They have often been regarded as such, but I can tell you a good few bedtime stories that will keep you awake for a month. And these are stories that never made it to the papers. Or a disciplinary hearing.

Me too, doc. The worst of those stories came to me from a friend who used to work as a nurse in theatre. The BMA is a very powerful organisation which does a good protection and cover-up job.
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Post  fedrules Wed 4 Aug - 9:54

I feel so sorry for poor Keisha having solvent abusing and possibly violent parents. It is impossible not to strongly suspect her parents in this case. I wonder if sniffer dogs like Keela and Edie have been used in the family home and vehicles ? Are they considered reliable tools in solving crimes in Australia?

As for the Mccanns being doctors making their involvement unlikely, Justiceforallkids, I feel your dad is wrong. Although there are many wonderful members of the profession, there are others who are motivated by ambition and the desire for prestige and I am certain that doctors also abuse drugs like alcohol and prescription drugs...My son has two friends whose fathers are doctors and who are studying medicine and who are both daily cannabis smokers. Of course, this is not unusual but the pressures of studying medicine, the long hours and stress perhaps make doctors more likely to take drugs than other groups..
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fedrules wrote:I feel so sorry for poor Keisha having solvent abusing and possibly violent parents. It is impossible not to strongly suspect her parents in this case. I wonder if sniffer dogs like Keela and Edie have been used in the family home and vehicles ? Are they considered reliable tools in solving crimes in Australia?

As for the Mccanns being doctors making their involvement unlikely, Justiceforallkids, I feel your dad is wrong. Although there are many wonderful members of the profession, there are others who are motivated by ambition and the desire for prestige and I am certain that doctors also abuse drugs like alcohol and prescription drugs...My son has two friends whose fathers are doctors and who are studying medicine and who are both daily cannabis smokers. Of course, this is not unusual but the pressures of studying medicine, the long hours and stress perhaps make doctors more likely to take drugs than other groups..

yeah fedrules the police dogs were used right away btw it just said on a current affairs program that keishas mum and stepfather are being informally interviewed as of now.......
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informally means they are almost a 100% ciovinced its them right? but still need evidence
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