yes, well.......Daily Mail

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1304003/British-mum-abandoned-girl-11-to-bar-Spanish-seaside-resort.html

A British holidaymaker has been arrested after allegedly leaving her 11-year-old daughter alone in a Spanish resort while she went to a bar.
Alicia Jenkins, 42, sat drinking in the bar for hours while the child wandered around a nearby beach, it is claimed.

The child was found by a British couple concerned that she was unsupervised in the busy seaside town.

But when they took the girl to the bar, where her mother had been drinking for at least two hours, they were told to '**** off and leave me alone,' it is alleged.
Facing jail: British holidaymaker Alicia Jenkins is accused of leaving her 11-year-old daughter to wander the beach in Salou, Spain
The couple eventually took the girl to her hotel in the resort of Salou, on the Costa Dorada, in north-east Spain, where staff called police.

A spokesman for the regional police force, said: 'A British woman was arrested on Sunday evening for abandoning her 11-year-old daughter while she went drinking in a bar.

'The girl was helped by a concerned British couple on the beach, but when they went to the bar to find the mother she started swearing at them and being abusive.

'She was very drunk. They took the girl back to the beach and when the woman did not turn up some time later they took the girl to the hotel where she and her mother were staying.

'Hotel staff called the police and our officers went to the bar where the woman was detained.

'By that stage the girl had been out of her care for most of the afternoon. She was taken to a children's care home to be looked after.'

The girl and her mother, from Builth Wells, in Powys, Wales, had arrived in Salou, a popular party resort, last Friday. They were staying at the three-star California Garden Hotel.

She is expected to face a fast-track trial. Under Spanish law parents who abandon their children face jail sentences of 18 months to three years. If the child is put in danger, it can be up to four years.

WHAT??????????? So its ok for toddlers to be left alone ina hotel room but not a 11 year old??????????

ann_chovey wrote:http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1304003/British-mum-abandoned-girl-11-to-bar-Spanish-seaside-resort.html

A British holidaymaker has been arrested after allegedly leaving her 11-year-old daughter alone in a Spanish resort while she went to a bar.
Alicia Jenkins, 42, sat drinking in the bar for hours while the child wandered around a nearby beach, it is claimed.

The child was found by a British couple concerned that she was unsupervised in the busy seaside town.

But when they took the girl to the bar, where her mother had been drinking for at least two hours, they were told to '**** off and leave me alone,' it is alleged.
Facing jail: British holidaymaker Alicia Jenkins is accused of leaving her 11-year-old daughter to wander the beach in Salou, Spain
The couple eventually took the girl to her hotel in the resort of Salou, on the Costa Dorada, in north-east Spain, where staff called police.

A spokesman for the regional police force, said: 'A British woman was arrested on Sunday evening for abandoning her 11-year-old daughter while she went drinking in a bar.

'The girl was helped by a concerned British couple on the beach, but when they went to the bar to find the mother she started swearing at them and being abusive.

'She was very drunk. They took the girl back to the beach and when the woman did not turn up some time later they took the girl to the hotel where she and her mother were staying.

'Hotel staff called the police and our officers went to the bar where the woman was detained.

'By that stage the girl had been out of her care for most of the afternoon. She was taken to a children's care home to be looked after.'

The girl and her mother, from Builth Wells, in Powys, Wales, had arrived in Salou, a popular party resort, last Friday. They were staying at the three-star California Garden Hotel.

She is expected to face a fast-track trial. Under Spanish law parents who abandon their children face jail sentences of 18 months to three years. If the child is put in danger, it can be up to four years.

Shame the McNeglecters weren't holidaying in Spain .................

The Mother has behaved disgracefully and deserves all she gets. What if the Girl was approached by some
pedophile and was niaive enought to go off with him???? They were staying at an Hotel which presumably had
a Pool and could have stayed drinking there while their daughter used the Pool and maybe made Friends with
other children in the Hotel.

As for the Mother swearing at the well meaning couple .......what can you say.!!!

Gerry"s "it was our holiday too" remark springs to mind.

This silly woman should have told everyone she was a British doctor who was checking on her daughter every half hour between drinks. She could be riding the crest of the wave by now!

Panda wrote:
The Mother has behaved disgracefully and deserves all she gets. What if the Girl was approached by some
pedophile and was niaive enought to go off with him???? They were staying at an Hotel which presumably had
a Pool and could have stayed drinking there while their daughter used the Pool and maybe made Friends with
other children in the Hotel.

As for the Mother swearing at the well meaning couple .......what can you say.!!!

Gerry"s "it was our holiday too" remark springs to mind.

'If she had an accident in the apartment, how could that be our fault'.....I could go on....Grrrr!

pennylane wrote:This silly woman should have told everyone she was a British doctor who was checking on her daughter every half hour between drinks. She could be riding the crest of the wave by now!

doesnt portugal have a minimum 2 year sentence for child neglect if so why did the mcanns get away with leaving 3 kids under 4 alone when this mum with a 11 year old didnt i mean i know spain isnt portugal but you know what i mean

Yes Portugal has a minimum charge of 2years IF the child is under the age of twelve, also, the sentence would be longer if the Police can prove that he/she may be in danger, appliances, swimming pool etc etc, such as the case with Madeleine.

How on earth these two whackjobs are still free baffles me - but it wont be for long of that I am almost certain.

Here hoping Halligen opens that can of worms today! if he piches up in court that is.

Pennylane, I needed a smile today and I got it from your post - ta very much, well said!

Panda wrote:
The Mother has behaved disgracefully and deserves all she gets. What if the Girl was approached by some
pedophile and was niaive enought to go off with him???? They were staying at an Hotel which presumably had
a Pool and could have stayed drinking there while their daughter used the Pool and maybe made Friends with
other children in the Hotel.

As for the Mother swearing at the well meaning couple .......what can you say.!!!

Gerry"s "it was our holiday too" remark springs to mind.

Saint Kate apparently made an an equally obnoxious remark to a holidaying socially worker also....but Kate was after all a distraught mother running hither and zither searching frantically for her missing daughter, so we must excuse her building site language to a nosey social worker.

karen when iwas 11 mum let me and my siblings stay home for like 10 minutes when she dashed down the street theresa huge diffrence between 3 kids under 4 anda 11 year old 11 year olds can basically care for themselves in some ways it shows the diffrence between the mcanns with money and a normal mum IMO not that im saying this mum was right but you know what i mean im glad this mother has to face charges for her lack of responsibility

Justiceforallkids wrote:

pennylane wrote:This silly woman should have told everyone she was a British doctor who was checking on her daughter every half hour between drinks. She could be riding the crest of the wave by now!

doesnt portugal have a minimum 2 year sentence for child neglect if so why did the mcanns get away with leaving 3 kids under 4 alone when this mum with a 11 year old didnt i mean i know spain isnt portugal but you know what i mean

God knows Jfak.... the McCanns surrounded themselves with heavies, and managed to get one over on the law of the land.

There can be no doubt, even if you accept their story (which I personally don't believe a word of), they are guilty of neglect at the very least. Their enormous lies will eat them from the inside out, and though they may not be in jail - they are most certainly living a soul destroying, hellish existence (imo)

malena stool wrote:Saint Kate apparently made an an equally obnoxious remark to a holidaying socially worker also....but Kate was after all a distraught mother running hither and zither searching frantically for her missing daughter, so we must excuse her building site language to a nosey social worker.

I know you're being sarcastic but Kate did go running eventually ... up the hill with Gerry, when they timed themselves and did it in 19 minutes. These little details are important when you're searching for a child, maybe they thought they could eventually tell the world they'd searched 'up hill and down dale' and got fit in the process.

Getting back on topic - it still amazes me that anyone thinks it's all right to leave children unsupervised, trusting to luck they'll come to no harm. The fact that the McCanns and their friends weren't charged with any offence for leaving their very young children alone at night must IMO have led equally feckless people to think it's quite all right to do likewise, that even if something does happen to their children they won't be blamed but instead will be given sympathy and support and lots of money.

PS I wonder what Lorraine Kelly, etc. think of this latest case - that the mum is a wonderful, caring person who deserves everyone's support?

The McC's weren't shy in publicising their 'neglect' of Madeleine and the twins - and you do have to wonder why?

It's been mentioned many times that possibly whatever really happened to Madeleine was far worse that simply being left alone. To be charged with 'neglect' would have been the lesser punishment for them.

I'm sure in the early days it was also said that for them to be charged with neglect meant that if the police found evidence of foul play they could then not be charged with that - but I may be wrong.

Dimsie wrote:PS I wonder what Lorraine Kelly, etc. think of this latest case - that the mum is a wonderful, caring person who deserves everyone's support?

i think we all know the answer to that.

We all know the reputation young Brits abroad have for their drunken loutish behaviour, I have seen it for
myself. Must we now be tarred with the bad parenting brush ?