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Post  AnnaEsse on Wed 8 Sep - 22:09

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I have American Friends and they popped in for an overnight stay on their whistlestop tour of Britain.

They too are very worried about the State of affairs in their Country and the idea of building a Mosque not far
from Ground Zero has really angered them.

A couple of Years ago I was enjoying a great Holiday, 4 days in New York and 6 days cruising up to Halifax.
One day lazing on the Lounger by the Pool I got chatting to an Irish Lady living in NY about Muslims. I know
it"s not funny really but we both had a good laugh when she told me Muslim Women had wanted their Driving
Licence Photos wearing the Burqa, the Mayor of New York drew the line at this demand.

I read about that, Panda. The women tried to claim discrimination of religious grounds, but of course, they were turned down. If a Driving Licence is an official form of identity, how on earth can identity be checked if all that is seen is a pair of eyes?

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Post  AnnaEsse on Thu 9 Sep - 6:25

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Let me get this right. We are here. This is OUR country. Some of our citizens propose to burn a foreign book, the Kuran, at a church in Florida. No one is planning to go to Saudi Arabia or Yemen or Turkey to burn the book. They are going to do it here. It is their right to do it. Its like the mega-mosque near ground zero. The Muslims have a right to do it but it is in poor taste. Ditto burning someone else's book.

Now there are some Muslims saying"Americans will be killed wherever they are found (I assume that they mean here in America as well) in the world if Kurans are burned".

Muslims already travel around the world killing people who offend them. They cut noses and ears off poor defenseless women. They stone and lash elderly women. They kill their own daughters if they marry someone their dad doesn't like. They strap bombs onto themselves and blow up innocents and on 9/11/01 they killed 3000 innocents by flying airplanes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and an empty field.

Does anyone out there seriously believe that Muslims will STOP doing the things they have been doing around the world if Kurans are NOT burned in a Florida church? Seriously, is there anyone that dumb?

What does our government do? Does it side with Americans who wish to exercise their rights? No, instead it conjures up all kinds of bogeymen to discourage the burning. Does anyone remember our government speaking out AGAINST a mosque near ground zero? No? I didn't either. Did they conjure up any bogeymen to dissuade the Muslims? No, I didn't hear them tell the Muslims that Americans might get angry and become abusive towards Muslims.

What I AM hearing from our government is discouragement towards the Americans who plan to burn the Kuran. That's what I'm hearing.

Does anyone remember Neville Chamberlain? He was Winston Churchill's predecessor. He tried appeasement with Germany. It didn't work. Germany did what it wanted to do in spite of treaties and appeasement. Our government and many of our citizens believe that appeasement is the answer. They want to placate Muslims and ILLEGAL immigrants in hopes that the situation won't get worse if the just give in and let them do what they want to.

Some of us can learn from history. Some never learn and then others have to clean up the mess just like Churchill and the USA had to do after Chamberlain appeased his way into the horrors of WWII.

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Post  Panda on Thu 9 Sep - 11:48

I have watched the area where I live overtaken by Muslims to the extent they have their own Solicitors,
Schools, priority in Housing, enjoy all the Benefits of living in Britain but make no contribution except in the
NHS where they speak English and are an asset to the Community.

IMO it"s too late, we are fast losing our identity as Brits.

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Islam is not a religion of peace says Anjem Choudary

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Rules for beating your Muslim wife

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Post  Panda on Fri 10 Sep - 8:47

Thanks AnnaEsse.....a rep point for finding these Videos.

I posted a thread about the American Muslims who had punished the Maid who complained about the overload
of work she had to do....the Guy hammered 20 nails into her hands!!!!!!

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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 10 Sep - 8:51

Panda wrote:Thanks AnnaEsse.....a rep point for finding these Videos.

I posted a thread about the American Muslims who had punished the Maid who complained about the overload
of work she had to do....the Guy hammered 20 nails into her hands!!!!!!

I saw that Panda, thank you. She was only the hired help, though, really a slave, and the rules that apply to beating wives don't apply.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 10 Sep - 8:56

Pastor David Manning of Atlah Ministry in Harlem. I like David Manning for his outspoken nature and his calling Obama, 'the long-legged mack daddy.'!! Also because his church services are on Saturdays. He states that they are, 'Sabbath worshippers,' which is more Biblical than Sunday services. That appeals to my Presbyterian upbringing.


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Re: The religion of peace: behead Geert Wilders!

Post  kitti on Fri 10 Sep - 11:26

What is wrong with these americans.


Their moaning about the muslim church being built around the corner to 9/11 yet they are bashing the reverend who has the guts to burn this disgusting book.


I do and dont agree with what he is doing, i do worry about the troops, alot, and the backlash but i dont disagree with him burning the book but what choice has he got...KNOWBODY seems to be listening in america....thousands were murdered in 9/11 yet the politicians including Obama, im deeply disappoionted in him, hes a woos, hes rubbish, full off promises yet he talks bullshit, how would any off them like to walk past this mosque if one off their family had been murdered, who the hell past this bill to let them build it there, anyway. This person should off grew some balls and said..NO....its DISRESPECTFUL to the dead and their families, but no, he didnt, all this person has said is...ITS THEIR RIGHT TO BUILD A MOSQUE WHEREVER THEY WANT...do that but not round the corner to 9/11 and i get this feeling the muslims want it their for a purpose and their purpose is to rub their noses in it and to say UP YOURS...WE RULE...ANYWHERE...ACCEPT IT.




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Post  kitti on Fri 10 Sep - 11:29

Talking about disrespectful, what about in pakistan where they burnt a effigee off cameron and threatened violence to the western world....did we here a peep about that...no....yet the UK has given so far £50,000,000.00 in aid to them...

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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 10 Sep - 11:48

kitti wrote:Talking about disrespectful, what about in pakistan where they burnt a effigee off cameron and threatened violence to the western world....did we here a peep about that...no....yet the UK has given so far £50,000,000.00 in aid to them...

And most of their Mulsim brother states appear to have given nothing. We are the immoral West where women who get raped don't need 4 male witnesses, where women don't need a man's permission to walk around with their faces uncovered, where women can choose their partners and not get killed for shaming someone's 'honour,' where men are not allowed to beat their wives, even if they don't leave bruises or bash her face in. Shame on us! How very immoral! Yet, the British people are very often the first to dip into their pockets to send aid to these Third World countries that hate us. I say to them - feel free not to accept the filthy money from the immoral West.

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Where do the flags come from???????

Post  Guest on Fri 10 Sep - 12:14

When the Danish press published the now infamous "Mohammed Cartoon" competition, the mobs were out in the streets the very same day, burning the Danish flag, and that's just one example. Where did the flags come from? Because if someone came up to me right now, saying "do you know where I can get a Danish flag, immediately, I need it right now!" then I would be very hard pushed indeed to find one. I'd probably say, "look I can get you one on Ebay but it will probably take a couple of days to arrive." Yet these people seem to have no bother sourcing an assortment of foreign flags with only five minutes notice. Somebody must have a nice little business going on, producing and supplying flammable flags, and then stirring up "trade".

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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 10 Sep - 12:28

The Famous Grouse wrote:When the Danish press published the now infamous "Mohammed Cartoon" competition, the mobs were out in the streets the very same day, burning the Danish flag, and that's just one example. Where did the flags come from? Because if someone came up to me right now, saying "do you know where I can get a Danish flag, immediately, I need it right now!" then I would be very hard pushed indeed to find one. I'd probably say, "look I can get you one on Ebay but it will probably take a couple of days to arrive." Yet these people seem to have no bother sourcing an assortment of foreign flags with only five minutes notice. Somebody must have a nice little business going on, producing and supplying flammable flags, and then stirring up "trade".

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Imam makes the case for Islamic Centre

Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 10 Sep - 12:47

http://www.cnn.com/video/

You'll have to scroll through the list of videos for this one, in the US category.

Just a few comments on what the Imam has to say.

He mentioned the Jewish and Christian and Muslin principle of, 'love our neighbour,' but in my reading of the Qur'An I didn't come across that principle and I actually looked long and hard for it, before sending the said book to recycling.

Who would that neighbour be that the Imam is talking about? Jews and Christians? The Qur'An names them specifically as enemies of Islam, to be killed wherever they are found. Imam he speak with forked tongue!

He also talks about politicising religion! What a joke! Does he really think we don't know that Islam is a political and social as well as religious ideology? Do Islamic states politicise religion? Is the Pope a Catholic? The Imam talks about the controversy over this mosque going against the American principle of separation of church and state! Take that principle to Iran or Saudi Arabia Mr Imam!

The Imam theorises that if the mosque has to be moved, this will encourage radicals. In Muslim countries the headlines will be, 'Islam is under attack,' and he is concerned about the danger to, 'our troops,' (he's patriotic now!) and to American citizens who travel overseas who would be in danger from these radicals, whom, of course, he has nothing to do with, even if he does not classify Hamas as a terrorist organisation and thinks that the Americans brought 9/11 on themselves (videos on YouTube) He is very concerned about what those radicals will do if the 'Ground Zero,' mosque has to be moved. Yeh right! I'm sure he loses sleep over it!

So, it sounds like veiled threats to me. Make us move our planned mosque and we'll make sure you suffer! Just for asking them to build elsewhere? Very peaceful and very loving towards their neighbours, I don't think!

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The Ground Zero Mosque Imam

Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 10 Sep - 13:03



The Imam wants Shariah law in the US? And he talks about separation of church and state?

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Dr David Manning on the 70 virgins

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Load of rubbish from Ground Zero Mosque Imam

Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 13 Sep - 8:45

I found this on CNN: the Imam talking about what is right with Islam.

He begins by talking about the opening of all 114 chapters of the Qur'An: God the all compassionate and all merciful. Well, let's start with the name. Allah is not referred to as God. The name Allah is used. Mohammad is described as the 'source of compassion to humanity.' This Imam must think that none of us have actually read the Qur'An and that we have all forgotten the history of the Islamic conquests, rape, pillage, slaves, murder and Mohammad, the source of compassion, consummating a marriage with a nine-year-old child.

The Imam talks eloquently about Sufi, the mystic side of Islam. I know a few people who are involved in Sufi and it is the totally peaceful and reflective side of Islam, though I think it is based more on the works of the Poet Rumi than on the Qur'An. The Imam is misleading people because Sufi is not the style of Islam practised in either Shi'a or Suni mosques and I would bet that it is not the style which will be practised at the Ground Zero mosque. He is being very deceitful in referring to Sufi when that is practised by a very small minority of Muslims and definitely not those who call themselves either Shi'a or Suni.

In referring to Allah as God, he is attempting to beguile listeners into believing the myth that all religions worship the same God. I believe this man is dangerous and he lies with every breath, but then the Qur'An tells him that it's OK to lie to non-believers. He is an accomplished speaker: he speaks softly, with gentle hand gestures, but that is part of his deception. Having watched this and having read the Qur'An, I think this man is like the snake in 'The Jungle Book.' He speaks softly with lies and his gently modulated voice.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/09/12/rauf.islam.compassion/index.html?hpt=C2

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 13 Sep - 14:03

In the Kasmire Valley, three people were killed in violent protests following a report in an Iranian TV channel Press TV claiming that copies of the Quran had been burnt at some places in the US.

http://news.webindia123.com/news/articles/India/20100913/1586385.html

In the volatile Kashmir Valley, where curfew was imposed for the second consecutive day in major towns, three people were killed in the fallout of the protests and several people injured. Violent mobs torched a Christian missionary school in north Kashmir's Tangmarg town as well as several government offices.

And last year, a number of Christians in Pakistan were killed and many more had their homes burned because of a rumour that some Christians had desecrated the Qur'An. This is like playground behaviour: a story just circulates, just a rumour, and people are killed. And Islam, according to Imam Rauf, is the religion of compassion and peace!


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And in Indonesia, the religion of peace, compassion and bridge-building....

Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 13 Sep - 14:44

Fox News

BEKASI, Indonesia – BEKASI, Indonesia (AP) — Indonesia's president ordered police to hunt down and arrest assailants who stabbed a Christian worshipper in the stomach and beat a minister in the head with a wooden plank as they headed to prayers.

Neither of the injuries appeared to be life-threatening.

No one claimed responsibility for Sunday's attacks. But suspicion immediately fell on Islamic hard-liners who have repeatedly warned members of the Batak Christian Protestant Church against worshipping on a field housing their now-shuttered church.

In recent months, they have thrown shoes and water bottles at the church members, interrupted sermons with chants of "Infidels!" and "Leave Now!" and dumped piles of feces on the land.

Local police Chief Imam Sugianto said Asia Sihombing, a worshipper, was on his way to the field when assailants jumped off a motorcycle and stabbed him in the stomach.

The Rev. Luspida Simanjuntak was smashed in the head as she tried to come to his aid.

"I was trying to help get him onto a motorcycle so we could get him to a hospital," she told reporters in the industrial city of Bekasi, 25 miles (40 kilometers) east of Jakarta.

She said the face of one of the assailants looked familiar.

President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono, who relies heavily on Islamic parties in parliament, has been widely criticized in the media for failing to crack down on hard-liners.

But he immediately called on authorities to investigate and to hold accountable those responsible.

"We've questioned nine witnesses and have already identified the perpetrators," said local detective, Capt. Ade Arie. "But it's too early to comment or speculate on a motive."

Indonesia, a secular country of 237 million people, has more Muslims than any other in the world. Though it has a long history of religious tolerance, a small extremist fringe has become more vocal in recent years.

Leading the charge against the Batak Christians has been the Islamic Defenders Front, which is pushing for the implementation of Islamic-based laws in Bekasi and other parts of the nation.

They are known for smashing bars, attacking transvestites and going after those considered blasphemous with bamboo clubs and stones. Perpetrators are rarely punished or even questioned by police.

The front also pressured local authorities early this year to shutter the Batak church, located in a densley populated Mulsim area, saying the permit was granted without the required approval of residents.

The Christian worshippers have refused to back down. Every week, about 20 or so return to the field to pray, defying threats and intimidation.


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Post  Guest on Mon 13 Sep - 16:17

Here's another feckin' nutter -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1311548/Queensland-lawyer-burns-pages-Koran-Bible-Youtube.html

He's smoking "joints" made out of pages of the Bible and Q'ran.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 13 Sep - 16:24

The Famous Grouse wrote:Here's another feckin' nutter -

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1311548/Queensland-lawyer-burns-pages-Koran-Bible-Youtube.html

He's smoking "joints" made out of pages of the Bible and Q'ran.

You're right! A feckin' nutter. Apart from the fact that he's going to put others in danger, inhaling toxic fumes from the inks won't do him much good either!

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51 PORK PLACE

Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 14 Sep - 7:49

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How Wall Street got its name!

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf will NOT be pleased when he will be forced to tell the Muslims about the history of Wall Street and how it got the name! Moreover, ALL Muslims believe that pork is unclean and they are forbidden to eat or touch pork!

How is the world of Islam going to react when they discover they would be praying to Allah in a Mosque erected on unclean and soiled ground by…PIGS? Would he get a fatwa from the Mullahs for his demise or be commanded to STOP?

This is a perfectly great opportunity for Imam Rauf to take The Donald up on his offer and make a 25% profit on the building and the Governor Patersson’s offer to purchase property for a Mosque in New York City with tax-payer money! A WIN-WIN-WIN for ALL concerned!

Wall Street is just blocks from Park Place and the wall, hence the name Wall Street, to prevent the pigs that were roaming, eating, defecating, and dying on land where Muslims want to build another Conquest Mosque.
Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf’s Ground Zero Mosque will be built on soil, ‘IF’ at all, that was owned by a Dutch Farmer where pigs and other unclean animals lived! It was also the place for slaughtering pigs and a graveyard for all of the unclean and diseased animals. I’m just saying


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