THE DOMINO EFFECT IN THE MIDDLE EAST

katertaif wrote:

Badboy wrote:MORE EXPLOSIONS BY ISIS AFFILIATES IN TRIPOLI AND MISRATA,PEOPLE ARE FLEEING SIRTE FROM POTENTIAL FIGHTING.

Now they seem to be starting in Tunisia as well. The only conclusion I can come to is they want everyone at each others throats, and hope to trigger the "end of days" scenario that many of hem believe in. Nothing else makes any sense.

THERE WAS AN ATTACK BY GUNMEN ON TUNISIA'S PARLIAMENT,THEN TOOK TOURISTS HOSTAGE,SOME SGGESTION MUSEUM WAS REAL TARGET OF ATTACK BECAUSE MUSEUM HAS PAGAN ARTIFACTS.

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THERE WAS AN ATTACK BY GUNMEN ON TUNISIA'S PARLIAMENT,THEN TOOK TOURISTS HOSTAGE,SOME SGGESTION MUSEUM WAS REAL TARGET OF ATTACK BECAUSE MUSEUM HAS PAGAN ARTIFACTS.[/quote]

Good morning Badboy

You are very probably quite right in that the museum was the main target. If that is going to be the future, then G-d help us because there is no way on earth they can all be adequately guarded. Of course there is another side effect of that in that the Ka'abah in Makkah is in effect a pagan artefact in that it was allegedly built by Abraham. Even the practice of pilgrims walking round it widdershins could be said to be a form of pagan rite. The tunnel in Medina where they throw stones at Satan is another pagan hold over.

For millions of genuine pilgrims this is no more than part of their religion and they don't think about it too deeply. For these extremists everything can be said to be unislamic. From the onion domes of the Kremlin to the faces of US presidents carved in Mount Rushmore. Of course it could also ne said that since most of them are armed with Kalashnikov AK-47 assault rifles, designed by an atheist Russian. using such a weapon is highly unislamic in itself. It seems that in the eyes of these extremists Islamic is in the eye of the beholder.

Whatever the reasons for this attack 23 innocent people have been killed,  most being tourists.  It  does not seem to have hit the headlines as much and caused the outrage that  the attacks in France did.  Still the same barbaric killings whatever the cause was this time!

silly russians didn't patent the design. most are made outside russia. you can buy them in car boot sales almost anywhere in that part of the world.

fuzeta wrote:Whatever the reasons for this attack 23 innocent people have been killed,  most being tourists.  It  does not seem to have hit the headlines as much and caused the outrage that  the attacks in France did.  Still the same barbaric killings whatever the cause was this time!

Thank you fuzeta for pointing out the reality of this terrible crime. More than ever we need people of compassion. It doesn't matter what the target was, whether it was the museum for housing pagan artifacts or not, the reality is that 23 people, innocent people, were killed, murdered by these vicious and merciless killers.

As you say it doesn't seem to have caused the furore that Charlie Hebdo caused. I only hope we are not getting "case hardened" to the point where we regard it with fatalism, and consider it another "hurdle" to be avoided if possible, endured if we cant avoid it.

ISIS HAS SAID THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ATTACK IN TUNIS

Badboy wrote:ISIS HAS SAID THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ATTACK IN TUNIS

Good evening Badboy

It seems as if these IS killers are trying to establish areas of control in the West Bank, and the Gaza Strip, from there to wage war on the state of Israel, which as every right thinking extremist knows has no right to exist at all. It is starting to look bleak all round, what with worsening relations with the Russian Federation. Obama giving what amounts to a free hand to Iran to develop weapons grade uranium, and possibly plutonium; although I don't know if they have any breeder reactors planned to do that. Once they have that it is only a matter of time. Yet The president of the USA seems totally unconcerned.

The latest call from IS to kill 100 US servicemen is another worrying factor, which could lead to a "My brother right or wrong" attitude. and take the whole question of this Jihad to new levels of frightfulness. Isn't it strange that these people who claim to be ultra religious, and ultra pure in thought and deed have only one reply to any disagreement - kill. Whenever they talk about jihad, they are going to kill the men, and take the women as lawful booty. proving yet again that pure and religious as they are, they have nothing on their minds but killing and sex.

More than ever I am convinced that boots on the ground must be deployed, even though I know that will lead to much more death and maiming of our troops. I also believe it is high time we offered peace to Putin and got the Red army on our side.

katertaif wrote:

fuzeta wrote:Whatever the reasons for this attack 23 innocent people have been killed,  most being tourists.  It  does not seem to have hit the headlines as much and caused the outrage that  the attacks in France did.  Still the same barbaric killings whatever the cause was this time!

Thank you fuzeta for pointing out the reality of this terrible crime. More than ever we need people of compassion.  It doesn't  matter what the target was, whether it was the museum for housing pagan artifacts or not, the reality is that 23 people, innocent people, were killed, murdered by these vicious and merciless killers.

As you say it doesn't seem to have caused the furore that Charlie Hebdo caused. I only hope we are not getting "case hardened" to the point where we regard it with fatalism, and consider it another "hurdle" to be avoided if possible, endured if we cant avoid it.

Hello Katertaif. I do hope that we are not getting 'case hardened' This latest atrocity seemed to drop out of the main stream news pretty fast.

ISIS ARE THREATENING TO KILL TURKISH OIL WORKERS IN ALGERIA.

ISIS AFFILIATES FIGHTING BOTH SUPPOSED GOVERNMENT FORCES IN LIBYA,ALSO SUICIDE BOMBING IN BENGHAZI.
ISIS ALSO CONNECTED TO CHLORIDE GAS ATTACK IN INDONESIA.

MASTERMIND/LAST ATTACKER OF TUNISIAN MUSEUM HAS BEEN REPORTED KILLED IN GUNFIGHT.
STILL MORE FIGHTING IN LIBYA.

Badboy wrote:MASTERMIND/LAST ATTACKER OF TUNISIAN MUSEUM HAS BEEN REPORTED KILLED IN GUNFIGHT.
STILL MORE FIGHTING IN LIBYA.

If they are not fighting infidels like us, they fight among themselves, Sunni/Shi'ite, or any of the other sects. The Qu'ran is more properly a handbook on urban warfare. What a religion and what a deity!!! Of course it is only the extremists, but they more than make up for the vast silent majority. While in the minority, the constant cry is Islamophobia and how peaceful they really are. Once they gain the upper hand, Then we see what they do in the areas they control.

ISIS CONNECTED MILITANTS HAVE ATTACKED SOUTH KOREAN EMBASSY IN LIBYA,ONE FINE MESS LIBYA HAS BECOME.

Badboy wrote:ISIS CONNECTED MILITANTS HAVE ATTACKED SOUTH KOREAN EMBASSY IN LIBYA,ONE FINE MESS LIBYA HAS BECOME.

I could not agree with you more my friend.

The sad fact is that some countries need a strong ruthless leader and Muammar Gaddafi was one such. Yes. Libya was virtually a police state, many atrocities were committed and corruption was normal. The "Arab Spring" deposed Gaddafi and his clan, and we helped them to do it. Can anyone say Libya is now a better or safer place to be?

The gangs only understand one thing -  Violence. I suspect also that ISIS would not have been able to operate under Gaddafi. Iraq is another case in point. Again Saddam Hussein and his henchmen committed many acts of barbarism, how many have died since he was hanged? I suspect that Syria will be another such place when  Assad is finally forced out although in the case of Syria, they have been reducing the place to rubble for some years. There are other countries such as Egypt which is in my opinion still not terribly stable since the fall of Hosni Mubarak.

Hamas and Hezbollah as well as ISIS and other terror gangs will not rest until Israel is wiped off the map. It really is amazing that extremist Islam only has one answer to any argument and it comes out of a Kalashnikov assault rifle.

ISIS AFFILIATE ARE IN CHARGE OF SIRTE,NOTIFLIAL,WHATEVER EAST OF SIRTE,DERNAH AND SABRATHA WHERE REFUGEES ARE HEADING TO ITALY,FEARS ISIS AFFILIATES MIGHT SEND SUICIDE BOMBERS AMONG REFUGEES.

Badboy wrote:ISIS AFFILIATE  ARE IN CHARGE OF SIRTE,NOTIFLIAL,WHATEVER EAST OF SIRTE,DERNAH AND SABRATHA WHERE REFUGEES ARE HEADING TO ITALY,FEARS ISIS AFFILIATES MIGHT SEND SUICIDE BOMBERS AMONG REFUGEES.

That is definitely a possibility my friend a very strong possibility. In any case the question is just how long can we go on taking in up to 20,000 asylum seekers a month. I feel desperately sorry for these terrified people that they must and are willing to risk death to escape the horror of civil war in their own countries. These civil wars are endless and destructive in the extreme. You feel there may be suicide bombers in with genuine refugees and I agree. I wonder if we could take it a step further and say these civil wars are being started by the terrorists precisely to force people to do what they are doing; flee to Europe. Making money out of them at the same time.

I seriously feel that these civil wars have been going on far too long to be normal. It is long past time the OAU stepped in and forced them to stop fighting using lethal force if they must. They have the manpower and certainly have the mineral resources.

ISIS AFFILIATES HAVE RELEASED A VIDEO SUPPOSEDLY SHOWING 30 ETHIOPIAN CHRISTIANS BEING EXECUTED.
SEPARETLY A FEW HUNDRED REFUGEES HAVE DROWNED OFF ITALIAN COAST.
REFUGEES CRISIS IS BAD WITH HUNDREDS ITS SEEMS TRYING TO REACH EUROPE.

Badboy wrote:ISIS AFFILIATES HAVE RELEASED A VIDEO SUPPOSEDLY SHOWING 30 ETHIOPIAN CHRISTIANS BEING EXECUTED.
SEPARETLY  A FEW HUNDRED REFUGEES HAVE DROWNED OFF ITALIAN COAST.
REFUGEES CRISIS IS BAD WITH HUNDREDS ITS SEEMS TRYING TO REACH EUROPE.

They seem to delight in not only murdering anyone even suspected of being a "kuffar" but making and posting videos of the killings. The object is to spread fear of course and it seems to be working. Thousands upon thousands trying to reach Europe. There are two aspects of this to consider I believe.

However much it upsets us, and personally I feel desperately sorry for these people, we just cannot keep taking them ad infinitum. The mayor of the main port in Sicily said the other day that it is a shifting of continents and he is right. All humanitarian calls to one side, we just cannot keep taking them in. There are too many. Sooner or later the infrastructure will break down.

Secondly, one has to wonder with IS and it's affiliate murderous gangs controlling many towns along the Libyan coast and elsewhere how many of them are sleepers, to be activated when the time is ripe? I see from the pictures that many of them are young single men and that tells a story in itself.

It all comes down to the same answer, they have to be stopped. That means our own young men, the bravest and best will die, that is unthinkable, but then so is the  alternative. I thought the OAU had come into being partly to prevent these constant internecine wars but not a peep out of them on this catastrophe.

Another great sermon from our middle East expert stiking the fear of God into,well,no one really !

20 ISIS AFILIATES HAVE BEEN KILLED IN FIGHTING WITH ALGERIAN FORCES.

Badboy wrote:20 ISIS AFILIATES HAVE BEEN KILLED IN FIGHTING WITH ALGERIAN FORCES.

Is there anyone they aren't fighting??

katertaif wrote:

Badboy wrote:20 ISIS AFILIATES HAVE BEEN KILLED IN FIGHTING WITH ALGERIAN FORCES.

Is there anyone they aren't fighting??

THEY AND THEIR SUPPOSED AFFILIATES SEEM TO BE EVERYWHERE,PAKISTAN,AFGHANISTAN,NIGERIA,ONLY THE VATICAN,ARCTIC AND ANTARCTIC SEEM TO BE UNINFECTED WITH ANY ISIS ACTIVITY,WONDER FOR HOW LONG.
I AM PROBABLY EXAGERRATING ON ABOVE,BUT YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN.

Badboy wrote:

katertaif wrote:

Badboy wrote:20 ISIS AFILIATES HAVE BEEN KILLED IN FIGHTING WITH ALGERIAN FORCES.

Is there anyone they aren't fighting??

THEY AND THEIR SUPPOSED AFFILIATES SEEM TO BE EVERYWHERE,PAKISTAN,AFGHANISTAN,NIGERIA,ONLY THE VATICAN,ARCTIC AND ANTARCTIC SEEM TO BE UNINFECTED WITH ANY ISIS ACTIVITY,WONDER FOR HOW LONG.
I AM PROBABLY EXAGERRATING ON ABOVE,BUT YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN.

Oh yes my friend I understand perfectly what you are saying and unfortunately I have to agree with you. It seems that among every peaceful community of Muslims there are some extremists with a narrow and imperfect understanding of what is more a way of life rather than a religion. These people who may be few in each community will tend to congregate at Mosques where the Imam is a - shall we say a firebrand. Then be persuaded that joining IS is the right thing to do. it seems that many have already travelled to join IS, and every day more and more.  I read an article saying that more than 60% are in fact foreign fighters. The same article suggested that up to 10% in each community may be extremists, or be persuaded to become so. Given that there are more than a billion Muslims that comes to a huge problem.

The Arctic and Antarctic may be safe even a Kalashnikov assault rifle tends to gum up in the extreme cold.

Badboy wrote:

katertaif wrote:

Badboy wrote:20 ISIS AFILIATES HAVE BEEN KILLED IN FIGHTING WITH ALGERIAN FORCES.

Is there anyone they aren't fighting??

THEY AND THEIR SUPPOSED AFFILIATES SEEM TO BE EVERYWHERE,PAKISTAN,AFGHANISTAN,NIGERIA,ONLY THE VATICAN,ARCTIC AND ANTARCTIC SEEM TO BE UNINFECTED WITH ANY ISIS ACTIVITY,WONDER FOR HOW LONG.
I AM PROBABLY EXAGERRATING ON ABOVE,BUT YOU SEE WHAT I MEAN.

Yes i think you exagerate just a tad ! Dont think 'they' have invaded anywhere in Europe,Americas (North or South ),Australasia,China,Japan,Canada,New Zealand,Falkland Island,South Africa most of East Asia and they would probably cack themselves if India could be arsed and most other places where they would get well slaughtered really.
That lunatic in North Korea would probably eat the lot of them for breakfast !

Infact if you just wanted to be honest with yourselves for a fraction of a moment you might be able to work out that the so called isis are only really operating in Syria and Northern Iraq where they have met with little or no effective resistance and the powers of the World seem quite happy to let them bully their way around the sand dunes and barren waste lands of Iraq pickng up abandoned second hand military hardware to threaten the local tribes.
Thats as far as these bullies will ever be allowed to go and they will be contained within those parameters with relative ease whilst the rest of the World gets on with other things.