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Post  mummy45 on Thu 26 May - 19:17

The article doesn't actually say they will be re interviewed just says that the time immediately before and after her 'disappearance' will be looked at closely.
This sort of implies that those hours will be the focus of the investigation which in turn would mean going over their statements in detail and once they do that the Tapas crew will be hauled in quicker than you can say cuddle cat. In fact if SY didn't quiz the lot of them they would look very unprofessional to their portuguese counterparts and to the general public. The cost of this is going to mean that absolutely no stone is left unturned which is what Gerry always wanted so he should be ecstatic

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Post  ShabbyTiger on Thu 26 May - 19:18

If any of the Tapas crew *have* been lying, then I hope they are crapping their pants at the thought of being scrutinised by this SY review. *If* any of them have kept quiet about a child's death, then I hope that the full force of the law is brought down on them and they lose everything. They will not be popular in jail.

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Post  zodiac on Thu 26 May - 19:18

Wallflower wrote:Angelique If the Tapasnics haven't got their own lawyers yet, they are FOOLS.

Wallflower,

I agree. If they really have paid their libel payout into the Fund imo they are even bigger FOOLS. That will probably be long gone.

Listen to MO's wife @ 4.35 secs:




Will she still be saying the same if her OH is closely looked at by SY?

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Re: Consultant from Kingston Hospital may be questioned in Madeleine McCann review

Post  Angelique on Thu 26 May - 22:31

Still searching for this little quote of MO but can't find it.

However, not to be discouraged I have been back to his rogatory statement and found this - this is not what I had already read somewhere else. It may well be that someone else who quoted from this actually misquoted because it does refer to his check initial check that he did outside and states that he didn't go in the apartment:

MO extract

Reply “Well it wasn’t murky, I mean, you were close to the shutters, they’re sort of white and they’re lined, I think it’d be fairly obvious if there was a dark gap along the bottom, if they’d been raised particularly”.
4078 “Okay. So take me through from there then, what happened after that?”
Reply “So, erm, back to the table, erm, we have, oh, back to the table, Gerry got up to go and, to go and check on his kids, I mean, and I’d come back and said, you know, I didn’t hear any noise when I listened outside your room, so I thought it was a little bit odd that, you know, not kind of a wounded pride that he sort of didn’t trust me, but, erm, I just thought, oh, you know, I’ve just checked you don’t really need to check and sort of, you know, sort of go back, but, erm, he sort of got up and went back to check on, erm, on his kids. But, you know, you don’t, you know, we’re all sort of responsible for our own children and you wouldn’t sort of say, you know, you don’t need to do that, I just sort of felt, oh I’ve listened, you don’t need to do that because I’ve kind of just done it, but I hadn’t gone into the apartment, so, erm”.
4078 “Did you actually say that or you just thought that to yourself?”
Reply “Yeah, I thought that, you know, I’d said that everything was sort of quiet, I listened outside the shutters, but, you know, they went back up, erm, and said he was going to check. Erm, I know that Jane went, erm, went up, and I think that’s because E**e had been, I think E**e had not been well that morning and I think that’s, I can’t remember whether she had any breakfast, but I don’t think she’d been particularly well that morning, or she was sort of a bit off colour not sort of being particularly unwell, but maybe, I think the kids hadn’t settle particularly well and that’s why they, erm, Russell and Jane had come separately in the evening, and so she went back, erm, to check on, presumably to check on, to check on her kids and then came back and we, erm, had starters by then”.
4078 “Was that the first time that you had taken it upon yourself to check on somebody else’s child?”
Reply “Yeah, I’d not done it before, it was only because, you know, I was there and I was, and it may not have happened if I’d actually gone in and checked on G***e through the room, you know, I might not have just been next to their shutter in terms of to actually have a listen, you know, I was just there, it was only like four steps further. But, no, I didn’t, even though we now knew each other for the week and I felt a bit more comfortable about their kids knowing me, as I said before, erm, I wouldn’t normally sort of impose that sort of check on somebody else unless they’d, erm, unless they’d suggested it. It’d be almost like a step, not a step too far, but, erm, it’s not really our place to, you know, to do that”.
00.21.10 4078 “Okay. So Gerry has gone off almost straight away after you got back?”
Reply “Yeah”."

But is he referring to both Gerry and Kate or Gerry first and Jane later ?

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Re: Consultant from Kingston Hospital may be questioned in Madeleine McCann review

Post  oversoon on Thu 26 May - 23:06

I'm on a temporary assignment in Belfast right now.

In the time the whole farce was in the infant stage, I was living in Kingston on Thames ( through June 2008 when I moved down to South London ).

My nieghborhood in Kingston butted onto the Oldfield's neighborhood. There is quite an educated and intelligent class of people in that area who were highly suspicious quite early on. Naturally, we talked alot. I never met the Oldfield's, but the guy over the fence was tight with some people a little over half way up the street towards the O's place who had been to over there more than once for dinner.

Things went quite quiet over there quite early on. Once their shopping consisted of primarily Ocado deliveries, I started to feel those people needed an escape from their hell. When I moved I lost contact, but I always remember those days and have watched these forums very closely ever since ( sorry, though that I've done more lurking than postng ). I always thought the O's may be the weakest link.

In February, I discovered another close contact to my business life that is very close to the case ( actually K's family ). I cannot divulge anything here or anywhere else because of the risk to my professional life. However, because of the knowledge of that person's professional life ( and changes in his position that have occurred in the last year ), I have a real feeling that something may break elsewhere. However, my intuition is not as strong down the O's avenue ( but they definitely are there also ).

I have had great faith in the predictions of Jdomino and see how things just seem to be lining up with his / her predictions.

Criminals slagging off the PM as part of a book selling PR excercise was the last straw from what I can see.

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Re: Consultant from Kingston Hospital may be questioned in Madeleine McCann review

Post  Angelique on Thu 26 May - 23:15

If I haven't already said oversoon I must do it now.

Goodness me how interesting your post is. It's just one more insight into what may be happening.

If one was totally and utterly innocent, one could walk down the street head held high.

Having groceries delivered is the norm though is it not ?

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Post  bootsy on Thu 26 May - 23:28

Oversoon and welcome.I too remember Jdomino's predictions and they do seem to be coming to light.Found your post interesting,there was talk at one time that Matthew Oldfield had some sort of breakdown?dont know whether there is any truth in it.

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Post  LJC on Thu 26 May - 23:31

Fudge wrote:
Fudge wrote:
mumbles wrote:
Angelique wrote:
Fudge wrote:I will always remember the picture of Matthew Oldfield comforting Kate when she was very upset, Matthew looked so concerned. I always found it odd that it was not Gerry comforting Kate.

Sorry, I don't know how to post pictures. If anyone can help I would appreciate it.

Fudge

Where would I find said picture ?


Many thanks mumbles.

I think this is the only time I have seen Kate breakdown.

Yes, but can we be sure she has broken down? Her hand is covering her face, and MO looks a little uncomfortable in his comforting role, imo. In fact imo it looks a bit staged, this photo.

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Re: Consultant from Kingston Hospital may be questioned in Madeleine McCann review

Post  oversoon on Thu 26 May - 23:34

Ocado deliveries start about about two weeks before the dogs. It was talked about just before the dogs as I had a strong feeling about a connection. I recall quite clearly it was the day after the PJ's made an announcement they were watching somebody and they were British. I couldn't sleep the night they announced the scent of death as I was very confused about the whole thing. I didn't go to work the next day as I knew I couldn't perform my work.

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Post  LJC on Thu 26 May - 23:49

oversoon wrote:Ocado deliveries start about about two weeks before the dogs. It was talked about just before the dogs as I had a strong feeling about a connection. I recall quite clearly it was the day after the PJ's made an announcement they were watching somebody and they were British. I couldn't sleep the night they announced the scent of death as I was very confused about the whole thing. I didn't go to work the next day as I knew I couldn't perform my work.

Oh crickey.

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Post  docmac on Thu 26 May - 23:54

Mentioned MO a LONG time ago. Nobody listened...

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Re: Consultant from Kingston Hospital may be questioned in Madeleine McCann review

Post  Wallflower on Thu 26 May - 23:55


bootsy wrote: Oversoon and welcome.I too remember Jdomino's predictions and they do seem to be coming to light.Found your post interesting,there was talk at one time that Matthew Oldfield had some sort of breakdown?dont know whether there is any truth in it.

Hello! I had heard that it was Russell O'Brien who had had the nervous breakdown. He wasn't outside the hight court either, so that added fuel to the rumour.

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Re: Consultant from Kingston Hospital may be questioned in Madeleine McCann review

Post  Wallflower on Thu 26 May - 23:59

zodiac wrote:
Wallflower wrote:Angelique If the Tapasnics haven't got their own lawyers yet, they are FOOLS.

Wallflower,

I agree. If they really have paid their libel payout into the Fund imo they are even bigger FOOLS. That will probably be long gone.

Listen to MO's wife @ 4.35 secs:




Will she still be saying the same if her OH is closely looked at by SY?

Sorry - I can't hear that on this computer

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Post  Dimsie on Thu 26 May - 23:59

bootsy wrote: Oversoon and welcome.I too remember Jdomino's predictions and they do seem to be coming to light.Found your post interesting,there was talk at one time that Matthew Oldfield had some sort of breakdown?dont know whether there is any truth in it.
Was it not Russell O'Brien who was supposed to have had some sort of breakdown, though again I've no idea is there was ever any truth in that? That's one of the maddening things, we know certain things have been claimed but often it's hard to find out the source of the claim and whether or not it's true. Personally I find it hard to believe any of them would have had a breakdown, they seem to be pretty much cool customers to me, not the type to worry themselves into a breakdown over someone else's missing child. Maybe just a forum myth?




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Re: Consultant from Kingston Hospital may be questioned in Madeleine McCann review

Post  Badboy on Fri 27 May - 0:06

Wallflower wrote:
zodiac wrote:
Wallflower wrote:Angelique If the Tapasnics haven't got their own lawyers yet, they are FOOLS.

Wallflower,

I agree. If they really have paid their libel payout into the Fund imo they are even bigger FOOLS. That will probably be long gone.

Listen to MO's wife @ 4.35 secs:




Will she still be saying the same if her OH is closely looked at by SY?
HEARD A BIT ABOUT RESUSCITING(SP?) A CHILD

Sorry - I can't hear that on this computer

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Re: Consultant from Kingston Hospital may be questioned in Madeleine McCann review

Post  bootsy on Fri 27 May - 0:07

found this and thought the last paragraph was interesting......... Dr Russell O'Brien, partner of Jane Tanner, left the dining table for a long period during the night of May 3rd. This period has been reported as being anything between 25 and 45 minutes.

It has been stated that this was to attend to his young daughter who had been vomitting and that he needed to change the sheets. Staff at the Mark Warner Ocean Club have been reported as denying that there was ever any request to wash sheets from their apartment.

He is also one of the three Tapas group (with Rachael Oldfield and Dr Fiona Payne) who were recalled by the Portugese police to clear up queries in their statements and 'confront' Robert Murat.

Dr O'Brien lived in Leicestershire, near the McCanns, before moving to set up home in Exeter with his partner Jane Tanner. He works at the Peninsula Medical School at the University of Plymouth's Exeter campus.

He was widely reported to be the other Tapas group member who allegedly wished to amend their original statement.

When contacted by Portuguese newspaper, Sol, he is reported to react with surprise but said:

"We drank. We were on holidays. So what?"

"It is normal that we are suspects, and the DNA test is a consequence thereof. We were the closest people involved."

"I have nothing further to tell you. I am not going to dishonour the compromise I assumed with Kate and Gerry. They want to control all information that is disclosed."

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Note: The word 'compromise' attributed to Russell O'Brien appears to be a mis-translation of the Portuguese word 'compromisso', which also means 'promise'.

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Post  oversoon on Fri 27 May - 0:19

I know nothing about the breakdown rumour except it was a rumour.

O's were definitely not working as I had witnessed the non-movement in the householf. I passed the house daily. This fact was mentioned by me on 3A's a long time ago ( I used the same name ). When I was questioned about it, I was not confortable enough to answer ( just like I can't reveal any more about K's relative now ). Trust me, I am not a flake and I nearly fell out of my chair when I realized a second person in this story had a connection to my life.




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Re: Consultant from Kingston Hospital may be questioned in Madeleine McCann review

Post  Angelique on Fri 27 May - 0:20

Wallflower

It's the bit about - "you know if you take the common sense approach as well and just look at - you know - timings of how things happened and the fact that they were both medics, there were four other medics in the group they would know what to do to resuscitate a child - or anyone else for that matter.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense really would be able to see that they couldn't have done it - I was there and I know they didn't do it"

I think I got it all in the right order - It's a pity you cant hear it because it's the officious tone of her voice that gets me angry - it's like I'm a doctor - you know nothing.

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Post  Wallflower on Fri 27 May - 0:32

Angelique wrote:Wallflower

It's the bit about - "you know if you take the common sense approach as well and just look at - you know - timings of how things happened and the fact that they were both medics, there were four other medics in the group they would know what to do to resuscitate a child - or anyone else for that matter.

Anyone with an ounce of common sense really would be able to see that they couldn't have done it - I was there and I know they didn't do it"

I think I got it all in the right order - It's a pity you cant hear it because it's the officious tone of her voice that gets me angry - it's like I'm a doctor - you know nothing.

Ah, thanks so much Angelique - I recall hearing that before. Rachel's got an absolutely awful voice

But, I am always perplexed why on earth she would make such a statement and talk about resuscitation unprompted? She who used to be a solicitor, if I recall correctly. Talk about implanting all these odd words into peoples' minds unnecessarily.

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Post  tanszi on Fri 27 May - 0:34

Doesnt K refer to "common sense" in her book. These doctors talk a lot of" common sense "but not one appears to have had the sense to use it in relation to their children.

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Post  oversoon on Fri 27 May - 0:39

RO does / did recruiting - no doctor. She was pointed out to me at Richmond park one day - repulsive creature.

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Post  Angelique on Fri 27 May - 0:41

Wallflower

Your welcome

Oh - I didn't realise she was a Solicitor - that accounts for the condescending voice. But not for the fact that she slipped up!

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Post  Wallflower on Fri 27 May - 0:59

Hi oversoon and Angelique

I am fairly certain that Rachel studied law at university. Apologies if I'm wrong though.

And oversoon, yes, recruitment was the industry she was working in. Or not working in - after May 2007

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Re: Consultant from Kingston Hospital may be questioned in Madeleine McCann review

Post  kitti on Fri 27 May - 7:14

They checked at 9.30....shutters down, windows closed.......trish cameron......


All the Information is from the family......we knew that because off the secrecy law, the mccanns were feeding the family stories to feed the newspapers...only is it NOW you can see there discrepancies and the change off stories .


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Post  duncanmac on Fri 27 May - 7:26

Clarification on RO is that she qualified an d practised as a solicitor, then decided to change career and move into recruitment ????????

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