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Post  Annabel on Sat 1 Oct - 18:23

https://losingmarketingploy.wordpress.com/2011/09/28/what-the-forensics-say/

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Post  Angelique on Sun 2 Oct - 0:10

Annabel

Thank you for this link to losingmarketingploy.com.

Lots of information and certainly a different aspect of how Madeleine could have suffered an accident.

But at the end the appeal to Kate, after reading her Book, is lost IMO. She doesn't desire to return to Portugal and answer any questions or help solve the disappearance of her eldest daughter, Madeleine. Or even given Madeleine peace that she deserves if she is dead. Kate desires to protect herself from any responsibility for "not being there, at that moment" when Madeleine disappeared.

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Post  Panda on Sun 2 Oct - 10:57

Thanks Annabel,,

Must admit I didn"t read it all.........much too long for my attention span.

Must admit, this bit caught my eye,"hence a previous report that mentioned ‘larynx fluid’ (unofficial, though this is a genuine media report). See further for details about the places in the 5a where blood got FOUND."

I read a long time ago that David Payne had been called to 5a to do a tracheotomy,?? could there be any truth in this now larynx fluid was mentioned in a genuine media report.?


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Post  Angelique on Sun 2 Oct - 22:45

Panda

I have heard this bit about larynx fluid but whether I read it as "possible larynx fluid" I can't recall.

Will do some searching.

Do you think this was David Payne's 6.30 visit. The bit about Gerry asking him to just check was perhaps a cover for his visit at that time?

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Post  Sniffer on Sun 2 Oct - 23:39

...and what about the SEMEN? I saw it for the firsst time I following the case.

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Post  Angelique on Mon 3 Oct - 0:02

Sniffer

Not sure about the "semen" either. May possibly have been on the bed underneath the window. Still searching.

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Post  whatsupdoc on Mon 3 Oct - 0:08

Tnx Annabel, a long but interesting read.

I've tweeted it.

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Post  whatsupdoc on Mon 3 Oct - 0:10

Sniffer wrote:...and what about the SEMEN? I saw it for the firsst time I following the case.

I did read somewhere that it was from a previous guest in 5A but this isn't definite.

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Post  duncanmac on Mon 3 Oct - 7:48

Panda wrote:

I read a long time ago that David Payne had been called to 5a to do a tracheotomy,?? could there be any truth in this now larynx fluid was mentioned in a genuine media report.?

The story of CSF and tracheotomy relate to ROB going missing for an hour during the meal on the 3rd May.
As the only casualty doctor in the group, he would have been the most likely to complete the Tracheotomy.

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Post  Panda on Mon 3 Oct - 8:23

duncanmac wrote:
Panda wrote:

I read a long time ago that David Payne had been called to 5a to do a tracheotomy,?? could there be any truth in this now larynx fluid was mentioned in a genuine media report.?

The story of CSF and tracheotomy relate to ROB going missing for an hour during the meal on the 3rd May.
As the only casualty doctor in the group, he would have been the most likely to complete the Tracheotomy.

Morning duncanmac,

I thought O"Brien was the one who went missing because his Daughter was sick, reportedly washed the sheet from her bed .......mmmmm, could be right.!! The Cook said he returned at 9.50pm to the Restaurant to finish his steak which she had kept warm and the rest of the Group had finished their meal. If you had just performed a tracheotomy on a child which failed, could you go and eat a steak......I couldn"t.!!!

seriously now, all the theories we have discussed about the Group, apart from their time lines, on reflection don"t stand up to close scrutiny. I think
O"Brien was off work sick for a long time when they returned to the U.K. and was not at the triumphant speeech by Fiona Payne outside the Court
House when the Tapas 7 were awarded £375,000. I guess we will never know the truth.

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Post  fedrules on Mon 3 Oct - 14:20

I also didn't read the whole thing, but it is a good reminder of the strongly indicative nature of the forensic findings. I don't recall hearing before that blood was found on the back of the sofa and on the curtains as well as under the tiles.

Personally, I find it hard to believe that Maddy died elsewhere than in the appartment. I find it plausible that her body was hidden temporarily behind the sofa before being taken to a better hiding place when it was safe to do so. It could be that the twins were sedated to allow this to happen. It is impossible not to find the alerts of Eddie and Keela extremely compelling. I wonder if the SY detectives agree? I'm sure they respect the ability of such dogs and their trainers...

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Post  margaret on Mon 3 Oct - 14:30

Panda wrote:Thanks Annabel,,

Must admit I didn"t read it all.........much too long for my attention span.

Must admit, this bit caught my eye,"hence a previous report that mentioned ‘larynx fluid’ (unofficial, though this is a genuine media report). See further for details about the places in the 5a where blood got FOUND."

I read a long time ago that David Payne had been called to 5a to do a tracheotomy,?? could there be any truth in this now larynx fluid was mentioned in a genuine media report.?

I do believe 'spinal fluid' was mentioned on either a Sky or BBC news report when the Mcs were made arguidos, plenty of posters heard that report but now whoosh clunked.

What was Fiona Payne who cockily announced that there were plenty of doctors in the group who knew how to 'resucitate a child'

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Post  Panda on Mon 3 Oct - 14:46

margaret wrote:
Panda wrote:Thanks Annabel,,

Must admit I didn"t read it all.........much too long for my attention span.

Must admit, this bit caught my eye,"hence a previous report that mentioned ‘larynx fluid’ (unofficial, though this is a genuine media report). See further for details about the places in the 5a where blood got FOUND."

I read a long time ago that David Payne had been called to 5a to do a tracheotomy,?? could there be any truth in this now larynx fluid was mentioned in a genuine media report.?

I do believe 'spinal fluid' was mentioned on either a Sky or BBC news report when the Mcs were made arguidos, plenty of posters heard that report but now whoosh clunked.

What was Fiona Payne who cockily announced that there were plenty of doctors in the group who knew how to 'resucitate a child'

Hi Margaret,

Every time I read anything like this report I wonder why the Hell the PJ did not order a recon while the Mccanns were still in PDL, 5a was rented to the PJ for one year from July 2007 so there was no excuse, it would have only taken one day and reconciled their statements to other witness Statements.
We know there would have been discrepancies between their statements and OC Staff, but Mrs.Fenn"s statement would have been available. This was
all the ammunition the PJ needed to charge the McCanns with neglect, it doesn"t make sense unless there was U.K. Government Interference.

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