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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  mumbles on Tue 18 Oct - 13:00

The questions about the airbus footage remain;

Which one of the tapas bunch posted it up on you-tube?

Why post something up that would show Gerry in a bad light - was that the reason?

Makes no difference who posted it... because Gerry was well aware of it and obviously didn't give two hoots
if it showed him in a bad light.

This, taken from Gerry's blog on 27th May.
We will also be releasing a very short video of Madeleine taken at the Airport on the day we left for Portugal, Saturday 28 April.

ETA: I'm presuming this is the same footage that was later posted on Youtube?

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  Autumn on Tue 18 Oct - 13:26

mumbles wrote:
The questions about the airbus footage remain;

Which one of the tapas bunch posted it up on you-tube?

Why post something up that would show Gerry in a bad light - was that the reason?

Makes no difference who posted it... because Gerry was well aware of it and obviously didn't give two hoots
if it showed him in a bad light.

This, taken from Gerry's blog on 27th May.
We will also be releasing a very short video of Madeleine taken at the Airport on the day we left for Portugal, Saturday 28 April.

ETA: I'm presuming this is the same footage that was later posted on Youtube?


Mumbles, Im thinking Gerry might be referring to the vid of Madeleine stumblinhg on the steps. Does anyone know when the airbus vid appeared on youtube?

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  mumbles on Tue 18 Oct - 13:42

Autumn wrote:
mumbles wrote:
The questions about the airbus footage remain;

Which one of the tapas bunch posted it up on you-tube?

Why post something up that would show Gerry in a bad light - was that the reason?

Makes no difference who posted it... because Gerry was well aware of it and obviously didn't give two hoots
if it showed him in a bad light.

This, taken from Gerry's blog on 27th May.
We will also be releasing a very short video of Madeleine taken at the Airport on the day we left for Portugal, Saturday 28 April.

ETA: I'm presuming this is the same footage that was later posted on Youtube?


Mumbles, Im thinking Gerry might be referring to the vid of Madeleine stumblinhg on the steps. Does anyone know when the airbus vid appeared on youtube?

Yes, you're right, I think the 'stumbling up the steps' is what we were shown on the news... but it all came from the same video.



Who posted it, is indeed a mystery!

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  mariang on Tue 18 Oct - 14:02

Looks to me like Maddie is wearing the same clothes as she wore on the photo of her at the playground at PDL as she was wearing on arrival.....must have been same day - start of the holidays.

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  Not Born Yesterday on Tue 18 Oct - 14:10

The photos supposedly taken on the holiday intrigue me as they are all open to suspicions of photoshopping. Here's a link whereby they can all be seen together.

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/MCCANN_HOLIDAY.htm

This may be me seeing things that aren't there but take a look at the full length trousers Madeleine is wearing when she climbs the steps. On the bus they are knee length. They could of course have been turned up but they look rather tight when full length to be able to do that. Then when you look at photo number 14, the trousers are long enough to trail over her shoes which they weren't at the start when she was climbing the steps.

I have read elsewhere that the playground photos were taken either on 28th April or 2nd May!


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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  mariang on Tue 18 Oct - 14:17

Yes I see what you mean - trousers shorter for on the way to the plane!

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  Bobsy on Tue 18 Oct - 17:33

mariang wrote:Yes I see what you mean - trousers shorter for on the way to the plane!

Yes the travel trousers, though pink, are cropped. The playground trousers are very long and actually don't look like a clean newly washed/ironed pair. And also her trainers look different. The playground ones have a deep pink mark on the ooes, the travel ones are plain white. All this not to say she hasn't been changed on arrival but never any mention of it.

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  lynn on Thu 20 Oct - 15:37

Maddie not being the McCann's biological child and being a handfull too, the whole saga could be a hoax. Money has certainly been made out of a tragedy and not all pieces of the jigsaw fit together. All very strange.

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  AnnaEsse on Thu 20 Oct - 15:45

lynn wrote:Maddie not being the McCann's biological child and being a handfull too, the whole saga could be a hoax. Money has certainly been made out of a tragedy and not all pieces of the jigsaw fit together. All very strange.

Lynn, I am quite sure that Maddie was Kate and Gerry's biological child. I believe there is a report about the hair from Rothley, that the DNA was that of a female child of Kate and Gerry, who was not Amelie.

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  Claudia79 on Thu 20 Oct - 16:48

Madeleine McCann is Gerry and Kate's biological child.

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  Not Born Yesterday on Thu 20 Oct - 17:55

Madeleine certainly looks like Kate in some but not all of her photos.

In this one she does - http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/mbmccann.jpg

I don't think this one is the same child! http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/_m/maddy_%20(21).jpg


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second DNA report

Post  tigger on Thu 20 Oct - 18:47

Claudia79 wrote:Madeleine McCann is Gerry and Kate's biological child.

the second DNA report certainly states this, although it also says that her DNA cannot be confused with that of her siblings. I would have thought, that would in fact be the case with Amelie certainly.

The report mentions a 50/50 % of Kate and Gerry's DNA. That alone surprises me, because I was under the impression that the proportion often varies a lot.
To be honest, the DNA is now worthless, because it will not stand up in court. I think Maddie looks quite like Kate, Gerry had bright red hair as a child - he should now be either still red haired or grey, but not dark brown.

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  Claudia79 on Thu 20 Oct - 19:12

tigger wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:Madeleine McCann is Gerry and Kate's biological child.

the second DNA report certainly states this, although it also says that her DNA cannot be confused with that of her siblings. I would have thought, that would in fact be the case with Amelie certainly.

The report mentions a 50/50 % of Kate and Gerry's DNA. That alone surprises me, because I was under the impression that the proportion often varies a lot.
To be honest, the DNA is now worthless, because it will not stand up in court. I think Maddie looks quite like Kate, Gerry had bright red hair as a child - he should now be either still red haired or grey, but not dark brown.

The Police in Portugal have no doubts about who Madeleine's parents are.

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  Bobsy on Thu 20 Oct - 19:58

tigger wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:Madeleine McCann is Gerry and Kate's biological child.

the second DNA report certainly states this, although it also says that her DNA cannot be confused with that of her siblings. I would have thought, that would in fact be the case with Amelie certainly.

The report mentions a 50/50 % of Kate and Gerry's DNA. That alone surprises me, because I was under the impression that the proportion often varies a lot.
To be honest, the DNA is now worthless, because it will not stand up in court. I think Maddie looks quite like Kate, Gerry had bright red hair as a child - he should now be either still red haired or grey, but not dark brown.

He did start to dye it either very very dark brown or black.

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  Autumn on Fri 21 Oct - 2:04

Bobsy wrote:
tigger wrote:
Claudia79 wrote:Madeleine McCann is Gerry and Kate's biological child.

the second DNA report certainly states this, although it also says that her DNA cannot be confused with that of her siblings. I would have thought, that would in fact be the case with Amelie certainly.

The report mentions a 50/50 % of Kate and Gerry's DNA. That alone surprises me, because I was under the impression that the proportion often varies a lot.
To be honest, the DNA is now worthless, because it will not stand up in court. I think Maddie looks quite like Kate, Gerry had bright red hair as a child - he should now be either still red haired or grey, but not dark brown.

He did start to dye it either very very dark brown or black.

Thats true Bobsy and was noticable in early vids....his hair became much darker than it had been at the begiinning.

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  mariang on Fri 21 Oct - 10:27

My father was a born red head - in fact bright red....however, at the age of 4/5 he went dark brown. I was born very blonde, my mother mousy brown. So hair colour can change dramatically.

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  flower on Fri 21 Oct - 17:07

mariang wrote:My father was a born red head - in fact bright red....however, at the age of 4/5 he went dark brown. I was born very blonde, my mother mousy brown. So hair colour can change dramatically.


I agree but only at an early age - by the age of 40+ IMO men's hair go one of two ways, Grey or Bald.............. Our Gerry is getting darker by the month!!!.............................

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  ann_chovey on Fri 21 Oct - 17:50

flower wrote:
mariang wrote:My father was a born red head - in fact bright red....however, at the age of 4/5 he went dark brown. I was born very blonde, my mother mousy brown. So hair colour can change dramatically.


I agree but only at an early age - by the age of 40+ IMO men's hair go one of two ways, Grey or Bald.............. Our Gerry is getting darker by the month!!!.............................

definite hint of greying temples here 18 months ago, now a rich lustrous brown....'L'Oreal...because you're worth it'


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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 21 Oct - 17:57

ann_chovey wrote:
flower wrote:
mariang wrote:My father was a born red head - in fact bright red....however, at the age of 4/5 he went dark brown. I was born very blonde, my mother mousy brown. So hair colour can change dramatically.


I agree but only at an early age - by the age of 40+ IMO men's hair go one of two ways, Grey or Bald.............. Our Gerry is getting darker by the month!!!.............................

definite hint of greying temples here 18 months ago, now a rich lustrous brown....'L'Oreal...because you're worth it'


I could have given him a better cut with my garden shears!

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  wjk on Fri 21 Oct - 18:00

AnnaEsse wrote:
ann_chovey wrote:
flower wrote:
mariang wrote:My father was a born red head - in fact bright red....however, at the age of 4/5 he went dark brown. I was born very blonde, my mother mousy brown. So hair colour can change dramatically.


I agree but only at an early age - by the age of 40+ IMO men's hair go one of two ways, Grey or Bald.............. Our Gerry is getting darker by the month!!!.............................

definite hint of greying temples here 18 months ago, now a rich lustrous brown....'L'Oreal...because you're worth it'


I could have given him a better cut with my garden shears!

I know. That cut is really BAD!

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  Autumn on Fri 21 Oct - 18:32

AnnaEsse wrote:
ann_chovey wrote:
flower wrote:
mariang wrote:My father was a born red head - in fact bright red....however, at the age of 4/5 he went dark brown. I was born very blonde, my mother mousy brown. So hair colour can change dramatically.


I agree but only at an early age - by the age of 40+ IMO men's hair go one of two ways, Grey or Bald.............. Our Gerry is getting darker by the month!!!.............................

definite hint of greying temples here 18 months ago, now a rich lustrous brown....'L'Oreal...because you're worth it'


I could have given him a better cut with my garden shears!



Does anyone know where the vid is of Gerry in the very early days giving an interview in PDL or something...the strange thing was his hair had turned very bladk and had def been dyed. Now what man whose daughter had not long gone missing, be bothering about dying his hair????

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Gerry's been dyeing his hair a long time?

Post  tigger on Fri 21 Oct - 19:55

A photograph shows him age 8/9 with bright red hair. In my experience that doesn't go dark brown all by itself. Photographs from New Zealand show his hair a one tone colour, always a give-away. My guess is he didn't like being red-haired and dyed it from an early age. Perhaps late teens. Red hair also tends to grey earlier than other colours.

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  gillyspot on Fri 21 Oct - 20:20

Hi Tigger

I have had a look at a number of photos of Gerry and his eyebrows are quite pale (well in comparison with Kates) and would be consistent with a ginger headed person.

This mahoussive pic explains what i mean.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=actual&linkpath=http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/matchkategerry.jpg&target=tlx_pic3uv6

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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  ann_chovey on Fri 21 Oct - 21:12

gillyspot wrote:Hi Tigger

I have had a look at a number of photos of Gerry and his eyebrows are quite pale (well in comparison with Kates) and would be consistent with a ginger headed person.

This mahoussive pic explains what i mean.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=actual&linkpath=http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/matchkategerry.jpg&target=tlx_pic3uv6

It most certainly does....I'm taking deep breaths after that!
Def. something dodgy going on re the 'barnet'




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Re: Was it a Pre-Planned HOAX?

Post  flower on Fri 21 Oct - 21:47

ann_chovey wrote:
gillyspot wrote:Hi Tigger

I have had a look at a number of photos of Gerry and his eyebrows are quite pale (well in comparison with Kates) and would be consistent with a ginger headed person.

This mahoussive pic explains what i mean.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/misc/show_image.html?linkedwidth=actual&linkpath=http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/matchkategerry.jpg&target=tlx_pic3uv6

It most certainly does....I'm taking deep breaths after that!
Def. something dodgy going on re the 'barnet'




And what's the heavy growth all about??

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