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Post  Guest on Fri 28 Aug - 15:33

I believe that this guy is completely unhinged. Listen to him talking...

http://www.emailthis.clickability.com/et/emailThis?clickMap=viewThis&etMailToID=2079717884
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Post  Guest on Fri 28 Aug - 15:41

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I have to disagree. I think he is a father who is still in shock after his daughter has been found. As he said in the interview. he has only had 4 hours sleep in the last 48 hours. I hope they can now get back on with their lives now that it is back to some sort of normality.
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Post  halfamo on Fri 28 Aug - 15:49

suzyone wrote:
Nellie wrote:
halfamo wrote:The funds running low ,and although i am so pleased this young woman is at last safe ,this is just imo just another fund raiser for the Mcs.

I'm not going to comment on your post, but don't think I'm not tempted.

Nellie, I think halfamo means that the Ms are using this case (again) for their own purposes, rather than the release of this young woman is a fund raiser for the Ms. At least that was the way I read it.

Thats exactly what i meant ,suzyone,Nellie please comment if you wish ,i can take sarcasm what i can't take is people using their child for monetary gains.
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Post  Guest on Fri 28 Aug - 15:50

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I have to disagree. I think he is a father who is still in shock after his daughter has been found. As he said in the interview. he has only had 4 hours sleep in the last 48 hours. I hope they can now get back on with their lives now that it is back to some sort of normality.

I had tried to embed a video of Garrido talking to KCRA (news in Sacramento)...try the other link (next post). Sorry...
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Post  jassi on Fri 28 Aug - 16:01

Autumn wrote:As the circumstances surrounding the 'Jaycee Dugard' case are not yet known, perhaps we should wait and see if her disappearance was linked to family or friends.

A very sensible idea
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Post  Guest on Fri 28 Aug - 16:02

What amazing news that Jaycee has been found alive, it does prove that there is hope for families of those missing. I hope and pray with plenty of help she will be able to move on and into a much bright future.

I hope putting this link on will be ok, it provides views of where Jaycee was kept captive, etc

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1209488/Phillip-Garrido-man-held-Jaycee-Lee-Dugard-18-years-fathered-children-makes-sick-boasts.html

Wow if you scroll down and have a look at the sketch done of the woman they were looking for in connection to Jaycee going missing, how uncanny is that.
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as above

Post  halfamo on Fri 28 Aug - 16:36

Nellie wrote:
halfamo wrote:
suzyone wrote:
Nellie wrote:
halfamo wrote:The funds running low ,and although i am so pleased this young woman is at last safe ,this is just imo just another fund raiser for the Mcs.

I'm not going to comment on your post, but don't think I'm not tempted.

Nellie, I think halfamo means that the Ms are using this case (again) for their own purposes, rather than the release of this young woman is a fund raiser for the Ms. At least that was the way I read it.

Thats exactly what i meant ,suzyone,Nellie please comment if you wish ,i can take sarcasm what i can't take is people using their child for monetary gains.

I am trying to control my penchant for sarcasm. You are not helping me.

Nellie ,or who ever you? are i always aim to please.
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Post  Guest on Fri 28 Aug - 16:44

MatterofTime wrote:
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MatterofTime wrote:~duplicate post~
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I have to disagree. I think he is a father who is still in shock after his daughter has been found. As he said in the interview. he has only had 4 hours sleep in the last 48 hours. I hope they can now get back on with their lives now that it is back to some sort of normality.

I had tried to embed a video of Garrido talking to KCRA (news in Sacramento)...try the other link (next post). Sorry...

OH OK. My apologies I thought you meant the father.



Edited to say I added the embed link here.and again to say the link brought me to a completely different video so I removed it.
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Post  Guest on Fri 28 Aug - 17:25

http://www.examiner.com/x-1168-Crime-Examiner~y2009m8d28-Client-of-accused-abductor-of-Jaycee-Lee-Dugard-says-he-talked-in-circles-about-religion


The British Press seem to not want to print the full story of this case...Here it is' the American version. No one is connecting this to the Mccanns.
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Post  Guest on Fri 28 Aug - 17:29

http://voicesrevealed.blogspot.com/

This is Garridos blog...cadaver dogs are also reported to have been brought in looking for dead bodies. If any are found watch how the Mccanns and Mitchel drop this case like a hot potato.
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Post  Guest on Fri 28 Aug - 18:06

http://guanabee.com/2009/08/philip-garrido-jaycee-lee-dugard-blog


This child aged 11 years was raped time and time again. Madeleine was three years old.
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Post  Guest on Fri 28 Aug - 18:36

http://www.kcra.com/news/20591281/detail.html


Voice interview and videos of Phillip Craig Garrido.
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Post  Roasted Arizona on Fri 28 Aug - 19:09

Not seen that much of this story yet as been out most of the day, but my first reaction was 'oh God' the McCann's are going to get MUCH mileage out of it!
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Post  dazedandconfused on Fri 28 Aug - 19:14

Pussycat wrote:
vancouver1 wrote:The only connection is that the McCanns have constantly claimed that their daughter was abducted by persons unknown and that "there is not a shred of evidence" that she has been harmed.

If the McCanns wish now to issue statements about their support for the young lady who has recently been found, and her family, that is their prerogative. However to do so in light of their constant claim that they don't believe their daughter has been harmed smacks of ostrich-ism - ie, head in the sand syndrome. Call it what you wish.

There is also not a shred of evidence that Madeleine was abducted, by the way. Best to remember this.



Quite vancouver. Jaycee Dugard's own Stepfather saw her being bundled into the car. The paper version of the Mail states that the McCanns have 'siezed' upon this story as having given them renewed hope. Yuk

Renewed hope of more donations.
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Post  Guest on Fri 28 Aug - 20:02

Nellie wrote:
dazedandconfused wrote:
Pussycat wrote:
vancouver1 wrote:The only connection is that the McCanns have constantly claimed that their daughter was abducted by persons unknown and that "there is not a shred of evidence" that she has been harmed.

If the McCanns wish now to issue statements about their support for the young lady who has recently been found, and her family, that is their prerogative. However to do so in light of their constant claim that they don't believe their daughter has been harmed smacks of ostrich-ism - ie, head in the sand syndrome. Call it what you wish.

There is also not a shred of evidence that Madeleine was abducted, by the way. Best to remember this.


Quite vancouver. Jaycee Dugard's own Stepfather saw her being bundled into the car. The paper version of the Mail states that the McCanns have 'siezed' upon this story as having given them renewed hope. Yuk

Renewed hope of more donations.

I hope they do get more donations. Especially from America.
Yes, all that money and the ongoing support of a tame millionnaire has really helped Madeleine, hasn't it?
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Post  Susan on Fri 28 Aug - 20:20

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Harvesmom wrote:It didnt take long did it ..

Gerry and Kate McCann, whose daughter Madeleine vanished from the family's holiday apartment in Portugal in 2007, have passed on their best wishes to Jaycee Lee's family.

In a statement issued via their spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns said: "Once again this shows that children can seem to disappear off the radar only to be found years later alive.

"It emphasises we should never assume that someone is not alive without any evidence to support this. We should never give up.

"This case only makes us more determined to find Madeleine. She is out there somewhere and somebody knows where.

"Our thoughts and best wishes are with Jaycee and all her family for a happier and peaceful future."

http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/World-News/US-Kidnap-Jaycee-Lee-Dugard-Found-Alive-18-Years-After-Being-Snatched-Near-Her-Home-In-California/Article/200908415369893?lpos=World_News_Top_Stories_Header_1&lid=ARTICLE_15369893_US_Kidnap%3A_Jaycee_Lee_Dugard_Found_Alive_18_Years_After_Being_Snatched_Near_Her_Home_In_California


FFS. It is always about themselves isn't it. still clarry has to earn his wages doing something I suppose, the last "sighting" did the Mcs a lot of harm, even most of the pros were bewildered by the Barca/Oz press conference.

Yes it is about themselves....

They attach themselves to every missing child story on the planet....

CM even said he would be helping Audrey Fitzpatrick which was a sick lie....he gave that woman hopes and then failed her but he was quick to use her to put the McCanns name in the newspapers!

Oh and The McCanns never once called Audrey Fitzpatrick nor did they send her any sort of message and they are in Mijas, Spain!
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Post  jassi on Fri 28 Aug - 21:06

[quote="Autumn"]There was no trace of her DNA in the apartment. Seem to recall Gerry had to return to Rothley to provide a sample of Madeleine's DNA. Interestingly, the 'abductor' left no trace of DNA in the apartment either.[/quote

Was all the testing done by FSS? - would explain a lot
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Post  jassi on Fri 28 Aug - 21:22

Nellie wrote:
Autumn wrote:There was no trace of her DNA in the apartment. Seem to recall Gerry had to return to Rothley to provide a sample of Madeleine's DNA. Interestingly, the 'abductor' left no trace of DNA in the apartment either.

No DNA that was specifically hers. Her pillow from home was an obvious choice.

Surely some of her clothing from the day before would have been available for testing.
In all the activities there is no mention of Kate doing a late run of the washing machine that evening.
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Post  Guest on Fri 28 Aug - 21:23

Jaycee Lee Dugard may have succumbed to 'Stockholm Syndrome'

Jaycee Lee Dugard may have succumbed to “Stockholm Syndrome” as a way of surviving her ordeal, which could explain why she failed to break free for nearly two decades.

28 Aug 2009

The condition develops after the initial feelings of terror and confusion wear off and involves the victim building a “positive bond” with their kidnapper as a way to cope with the trauma of being held captive.

Instead of hating the person who has abducted them, they come to empathise with them and view the outside world as the enemy.

Comments from Miss Dugard’s stepfather yesterday, suggesting she felt “guilt” about forming a bond with Garrido, appeared to back this up.

Experts said kidnap victims may even develop “misplaced love” that could be reciprocated by the abductor. Extended periods of captivity might also lead to “learned helplessness” in which individuals come to believe that no matter what they do to improve their circumstances, nothing is effective.

Both these conditions are particularly true where the captive – like Miss Dugard – has no one else to turn to and has to rely on their captor for all their basic needs and companionship.

“Initially kidnap victims are stunned, numbed and fearful,” said Prof David Alexander, from the Aberdeen Centre for Trauma Research at Robert Gordon University in Aberdeen.

“You take a while to come to terms with the initial abduction but then survival mechanisms kick in. Your first thought is how to stay alive, not necessarily how to hit back or escape. When you are isolated and only have one person to rely on, you begin to identify with them. You start to do what you are told.

“It’s why women victims of domestic violence go back to their abusive husbands.”

The condition was exacerbated by captors who were good at manipulating feelings, especially in the young, Prof Alexander said.

Dr Claudia Herbert, a clinical psychologist at the Oxford Stress and Trauma Centre, said Miss Dugard might have developed Stockholm syndrome because of what is known as a “double bind”.

“She absolutely depended on him for her survival but on the other hand he did horrible things to her. She will have very ambivalent attitudes towards him.

“On the one hand sympathy, sorrow, pity and even misplaced love, on the other anger. This will have caused complex trauma and her whole personality will have been affected. She will need long-term trauma therapy but we can help people like her.”

Stockholm syndrome was named after an armed bank raid in Sweden in 1973 when hostages – three women and one man – forged friendly relationships with their captors, even to the point of financing their defence in court and having love affairs with them.

Natascha Kampusch, who was held captive for eight years in Vienna until 2006, bonded with her abductor to such an extent that, on his suicide immediately after her escape, she blamed the police for his death and went to his funeral.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/jaycee-lee-dugard/6106991/Jaycee-Lee-Dugard-may-have-succumbed-to-Stockholm-Syndrome.html
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Madeleine McCann's parents "inspired" by Jaycee Lee Dugard case

Post  Guest on Fri 28 Aug - 21:27

The parents of Madeleine McCann said today that the reappearance of child kidnap victim Jaycee Lee Dugard 18 years after she disappeared ''only makes us more determined'' to find their daughter.

28 Aug 2009

Jaycee Lee Dugard was abducted at the age of 11 from her home in California in 1991 but has now been reunited with her mother after walking into a police station with her alleged captor and the two children he fathered by her.

Kate and Gerry McCann said: ''Once again this shows that children can sometimes disappear off the radar only to be found years later alive.

''It emphasises that we should never assume that someone is not alive without any evidence to support this. We should never give up

''This case only makes us more determined to find Madeleine. She is out there somewhere and somebody knows where.''

Miss Dugard, now aged 29, was reunited with her mother on Thursday after revealing during an interview with her kidnapper's parole officer that she was the victim of one of California's oldest unsolved crimes. It was her first known appearance in public since her abduction.

She disappeared when a man and a woman pulled her kicking and screaming into a car at a school bus stop just yards from her home in South Lake Tahoe.

Madeleine went missing without trace from a Portuguese hotel on May 3rd 2003. Despite spending millions of pounds in a continuing hunt her parents are no closer to finding out what happened.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/jaycee-lee-dugard/6104182/Madeleine-McCanns-parents-inspired-by-Jaycee-Lee-Dugard-case.html
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Post  kitti on Fri 28 Aug - 21:46

tyra wrote:I don't have the stomach to even debate civilly with people on this thread who are prepared to use and abuse the case of another child, stomp something good into the ground and spread further malicious lies they knew to be untrue just because they are desperate for another stick with which to beat a family they have chosen to dislike. There is something very odd about that.

So in the words of the dragons, 'I'm out'.



Ciya............wouldnt wanna beya!
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Post  jassi on Fri 28 Aug - 21:48

Nellie wrote:
jassi wrote:
Nellie wrote:
Autumn wrote:There was no trace of her DNA in the apartment. Seem to recall Gerry had to return to Rothley to provide a sample of Madeleine's DNA. Interestingly, the 'abductor' left no trace of DNA in the apartment either.

No DNA that was specifically hers. Her pillow from home was an obvious choice.

Surely some of her clothing from the day before would have been available for testing.
In all the activities there is no mention of Kate doing a late run of the washing machine that evening.

Her dirty clothes would have been mixed in with everyone elses. Cross contamination.


Not for DNA purposes. Real scientists can sort out mixtures you know.
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Post  kitti on Fri 28 Aug - 21:49

Nellie wrote:
sasha wrote:
Nellie wrote:
carlymichelle wrote:
vancouver1 wrote:Yes of course this is great news and a vast relief to the parents of this young woman.
However, by linking themselves to this story, and by acknowledging that this young woman was found alive after so many years being missing, Kate and Gerry will also have to acknowledge that this young woman was not, in fact, "unharmed" - she was kept captive, and bore children fathered by her abductor, and was therefore sexually abused.

Would Kate and Gerry wish also to acknowledge that this might be the fate of their daughter in four or five years' time?

exactly she was found alive but nor unharmed as the mcanns trot out all the time IMO this is the reality of abduction

This is no reason to stop looking. All the more reason to carry on I think. People do survive this sort of abuse.

People probably can and do come through abuse like this, but at what price.

I hope you wouldn't rather she was dead. I don't suppose she does.






Some people. nellie, DONT have to be abducted to be abused.

And SOME people would rather be DEAD than live with abuse.
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