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Post  trinity on Mon 31 Oct - 13:49

I was just wondering, for those of you/us that think either peadophilia or parental violence could be a factor in this case, what thoughts you all may have about one of these children coming forward in years to come and that child "cracking" this case with their revelations?
As an adult survivor of this kind of "parenting" i do know that many years can pass before things come to light.
Sorry if i have missed any discussions on this but i'm probably not half way there with regards to reading everything, but its just something that has been on my mind recently

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Re: The tapas children

Post  kitti on Mon 31 Oct - 14:27

I truly believe that they are blighted by this tragedy.


When, if not now, they grow up and have their own children they will reflect about that fateful holiday, they will sit down one night and reflect and may even fret so much about it that one or two off them will dig and dig deep into what happened.


Their parents will have to keep on there good side for the rest off those kids lives for fear off ONE off them getting angry about something trivial which will make them angry enough to think deeply.


My bet is on Sean.....or the eldest tanner child.


The only way the kids won't find out the truth is if the Mccanns get enough money to pay google to wipe all the negative articles etc from the web.

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Post  trinity on Mon 31 Oct - 15:30

After the gaspar statements, i've often wondered about the payne family. If there is any truth in the rumours, i suspect eventually that perhaps something would come from that? I also think that one day it could be jane tanner that cracks under the guilt of her lies and surely she, or whoever she finally unburdens herself to would prove to be the weakest link!

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Post  Keela on Mon 31 Oct - 16:01

I don't think that anyone will "crack". The longer a lie is lived by the people on the outer edge of the lie, then the easier it can become to believe it. It is now 4 years, going on 5 and their careers and lives have been protected and saved so why risk them now. The Mccanns will have the truth eating away at them for the rest of their lives but they seem to be handling it pretty well, all things considered. So again protected and saved. The curiosity of the other children in the years to come may raise a few awkward questions but these will be fielded. I would be very surprised if any of the tapas group are still in touch with each other, either on a regular basis or every now and again. If this is the case then the rest of them can push it to the back burner and get on with their lives, after all save from the fact that they were on the ill-fated holiday, it doesn't really concern them does it? They haven't lost a child so no need to worry. I think that basically all of the group have been made from the same mould. Care about yourself and sod everyone else.

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Post  LJC on Mon 31 Oct - 23:18

trinity wrote:I was just wondering, for those of you/us that think either peadophilia or parental violence could be a factor in this case, what thoughts you all may have about one of these children coming forward in years to come and that child "cracking" this case with their revelations?
As an adult survivor of this kind of "parenting" i do know that many years can pass before things come to light.
Sorry if i have missed any discussions on this but i'm probably not half way there with regards to reading everything, but its just something that has been on my mind recently

I am honestly starting to think that if anything like this were/is occurring, somebody independent on the outside, someone who has never been on holiday with the group, who happens to know one or some of the children, particularly the Payne children, would have come forward by now to say what great parents they are, how well the children are doing, etc. This, to my knowledge has not happened. Likewise, I guess it works both ways and there has been no rush by anyone independent who has come forward to say the children are withdrawn or have some sort of personality disorder commonly attributed to abuse, especially sexual.

I would think though, all things considered, that no news from outsiders is good news as far as the tapas families are concerned. There would be plenty of people surrounding them who know them and who can vouch for them. If no one has come forward and said publicly that one or some of the children are displaying certain traits associated with sexual abuse, then I am given to thinking that there is no abuse at all, that the whole incident witnessed by the Gaspers was misinterpreted by them, that it was just drink talking that night, men being childishly mischievous and to some extent shocking those around them, but nothing more than that.

Of course, it was right for the Gaspers to report it, but surely children who are sexually abused cannot conceal the fact that they are abused from prying eyes on the outside. I am not talking about photographs here and how sad Madeleine looked, or how sad some of the others looked in the pictures, I am talking about those that see them every day, teachers, neighbours, who have never come forward to say one or several are showing classic signs of behavoural problems associated with such abuse.

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Re: The tapas children

Post  fred on Tue 1 Nov - 9:29

[quoteOf course, it was right for the Gaspers to report it, but surely children who are sexually abused cannot conceal the fact that they are abused from prying eyes on the outside. I am not talking about photographs here and how sad Madeleine looked, or how sad some of the others looked in the pictures, I am talking about those that see them every day, teachers, neighbours, who have never come forward to say one or several are showing classic signs of behavoural problems associated with such abuse][/quote]



Perhaps if it happened from such a young age, it would be just part of life, the children wouldn't probably realise anything was wrong?

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Post  Bobsy on Tue 1 Nov - 10:15

fred wrote:[quoteOf course, it was right for the Gaspers to report it, but surely children who are sexually abused cannot conceal the fact that they are abused from prying eyes on the outside. I am not talking about photographs here and how sad Madeleine looked, or how sad some of the others looked in the pictures, I am talking about those that see them every day, teachers, neighbours, who have never come forward to say one or several are showing classic signs of behavoural problems associated with such abuse]



Perhaps if it happened from such a young age, it would be just part of life, the children wouldn't probably realise anything was wrong?[/quote]

Exactly, and sexual abuse does make one think of violence and pain. We once had neighbours where it turned out the youngest child, a girl, was being abused by her father. She was a happy laughing child. The only strange thing was her behaviour towards her father. She was known as a Daddy's girl and wanted to be with him above all others, no sign of any misery at all.
She was three when it came to light.

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Post  LJC on Tue 1 Nov - 23:07

It is common, very common in fact, for children of a very young age who are sexually abused, or who see acts of a sexual nature, to themselves display sexualised behaviour. Yes, they can be happy, yes they can appear normal to those who do not see very much of them, but those who see them day in and day out would definitely notice such traits. The children believe it is normal behaviour to act in a certain way with others. They do not see it as anything else. But we would and teachers should. I just do not think if there was sexual abuse going on that none of those tapas children would display sexualised behaviour of some sort. I think at least one of them would.

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