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Post  Annabel on Sun 6 Nov - 14:20

http://thepottingshedder.blogspot.com/2011/11/rogatory-review.html

Smoke and mirrors, muddied waters... there's always been speculation that things have been deliberately confused from day one. From the shutters and locks to the timeline. One thing that irritates me is the fact that all of the group's children were left alone to fend for themselves. If it really happened that way - that's what we're expected to believe. So why have the rest of the Tapas group been let off the hook? The only reason that the McCanns have taken most of the rap is because they got caught in the act, unfortunately for their child.

By foot, the McCann children were actually closest to the Tapas bar, where the group of these so called professional parents were dining. All of the other children were dotted here and there in other apartments, a much further distance than apartment 5a. Alone, some of them sick. Yet their parents simply closed their doors and left them?

Below is an extract from Rachel Oldfield's rogatory interview, where she describes the absolutely crap routine of putting her one year old sick baby to bed before skulking off silently to the restaurant - through a passageway so dark, she was afraid to check on her own sick child. Their system of checks involved listening at the doors and windows... the smell checks have been blatantly omitted. Mrs Oldfield then tells us how she believes Madeleine was taken, alive from apartment 5a by the big, bad abductor. Or maybe not.

Read it and weep, folks.
Read it and weep...

~o0o~

"She, yeah because erm, we didn't, we don't really like sleeping in the same room as her but there wasn't really nowhere else to put her cos you know, obviously she was going to bed at seven thirty and then we'd have had to kind of hide in the bathroom or something for the rest of the night, so we put, yeah she slept in our room as well erm".

"Yeah. So basically we'd go and have dinner and then we'd sort of run back you know every fifteen twenty minutes and have a listen at the door and make sure nobody's screaming their head off".

"Erm well we'd go into the room, which ordinarily we wouldn't do to be honest, erm but she seemed to have diarrhoea and kind of, I mean she'd settled quite well actually cos she'd been tired every evening, erm but every morning when she woke up, she had diarrhoea and it had gone right through her grow bag and so there's all this sort of horrendous smell, so in the evenings when we were checking, we'd go into the room just to see if you know, there was any sort of smell yet, erm and just to make sure she was alright, to make sure she hadn't been sick, partly I think cos Matt had been sick, just wanted to make sure she hadn't been, in case it was some sort of bug".

1578 "Okay, and the route taken"?

Reply "Was up the road and then in through the car park at the back and in through the front door.

1578 "In through the front door"?

Reply "Mmm yeah, I mean the patio doors were locked, erm yeah I didn't really like going up there by myself, it was, like going through that car park was quite dark and there was never anyone around, it was a bit, you know made me feel a bit uneasy".

1578 "Okay. Did you want to mention something about the Doctors in the group"?

Reply "Yeah I was just going to say that, you know Kate and Gerry are both Doctors and you know there were three other medics in the group erm four others actually sorry, four others, erm you know so if by any chance they'd accidentally done anything to Madeleine or she was ill or erm you know something wasn't quite right, I mean they wouldn't have just left her and sort of tried to cover it up as an accident or you know, they would or sort of you know, come and got Matt and Russell and Dave and Fi, erm I mean you know, not just because they are Doctors, because you know they're parents and you'd kind of go to anyone to see who could help but if you got, you know Doctors as friends who were there as well, erm you know there were kind of six people there who if Madeleine had accidentally been bumped on the head or you know whatever the theories are supposed to be, erm you know, there were plenty of people there who could of you know tried to revive a child, erm".

~o0o~

Plenty of people who could have tried to revive a child... The cynic in me is screaming that Madeleine's fate has just been described in detail and confirmed by those last few words. I hope I'm wrong. Smoke and muddied waters - time for someone to clear everything up, including their conscience.

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Re: A Rogatory Review /Thepottingshedder

Post  Bobsy on Sun 6 Nov - 15:36

Just read this and the reminder of a baby with such evil smelling and so excoriating diarrhoea being left tipped me over the edge so much so Hubby thought that I was having a heart attack. No, though my heart aches for a child with such lousey parents to leave it to stink in it's own excrement. But eh seems to be the norm in the NHS.
That apart hubby came rushing to me and then read what I have read before. This is the first thing he has read about this case, I usually read stuff to him. His first words "scum" his second "horror".
Now question, who can say this is responsible parenting? How did the parents of this child not have said child put onto the children at risk register? Many more questions about this set of parents.
Yes I agree with hubby, "scum".

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Re: A Rogatory Review /Thepottingshedder

Post  Lillyofthevalley on Sun 6 Nov - 15:56

There but for the grace of god go I............

"erm you know so if by any chance they'd accidentally done anything to Madeleine or she was ill or erm you know something wasn't quite right, I mean they wouldn't have just left her and sort of tried to cover it up as an accident or you know"

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Re: A Rogatory Review /Thepottingshedder

Post  Angelique on Sun 6 Nov - 16:59

Annabel

Thank you for this article from "thepottingshedder~".

As stated the rest of the Tapas parents do seem to have been left out of "the loop". In all the furore and disbelief over the McCann children being left, the rest of the parents have been forgotten about. In particular the one highlighted - the Oldfield's.

This is really awful. Imagine you have a child who is suffering from some sort of diarrhoea and possibly sick and/or vomiting but they felt it ok to leave this child unattended for periods of time. No, I could never do that, if there was a chance of even being sick its too risky.

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Re: A Rogatory Review /Thepottingshedder

Post  NoStone on Sun 6 Nov - 17:35

- this is where RO is trying to tell us the truth IMO -

you know Doctors as friends who were there as well, erm you know there were kind of six people there who if Madeleine had accidentally been bumped on the head or you know whatever the theories are supposed to be, erm you know, there were plenty of people there who could of you know tried to revive a child, erm".

The question is by whom or how and when?????

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Re: A Rogatory Review /Thepottingshedder

Post  Panda on Sun 6 Nov - 18:12

I can"t remember what Rachel Oldfield does for a living , it certainly isn"t speechmaking.

How come Jane Tanner walks up the road , past the side of the McCanns Apartment , turns left then on to her apartment , yet Rachel walks across
the Car Park???

Thanks Annabel, another insightful article by the Pottingshedder....which reminds me, we havn"t had any posts from the Dr. lately.

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Re: A Rogatory Review /Thepottingshedder

Post  ann_chovey on Sun 6 Nov - 18:37

Bobsy wrote:Just read this and the reminder of a baby with such evil smelling and so excoriating diarrhoea being left tipped me over the edge so much so Hubby thought that I was having a heart attack. No, though my heart aches for a child with such lousey parents to leave it to stink in it's own excrement. But eh seems to be the norm in the NHS.
That apart hubby came rushing to me and then read what I have read before. This is the first thing he has read about this case, I usually read stuff to him. His first words "scum" his second "horror".
Now question, who can say this is responsible parenting? How did the parents of this child not have said child put onto the children at risk register? Many more questions about this set of parents.
Yes I agree with hubby, "scum".

That same little baby was put in the creche every morning also, Matt didn't like doing it because she cried so 'Yummy mummy' Rachel did the dropping off.

from MO's rogatory............

“So you were just going to cover the arrangements that had been put in place for checking on the children?”
Reply “Right. And so the Tapas seemed to fit because, because you didn’t feel far away from the room, it felt so quiet and very safe and it was sort of a minutes walk, if that, you know, the actual distance seemed quite, you know, you were sort of falsely reassured, but obviously at this point you could see the back of your apartment, not hugely clearly, but you can sort of see the apartment block, erm, you know, you could see if the light came on, for instance, or you felt that you’d be able to see if the light came on and, you know, because we were sort of going what we thought was every sort of ten or fifteen minutes, basically between courses, then you could go. And rather than go and find another restaurant where not everybody would be able to go because somebody would need to be babysitting, it seemed most sensible just to, to stay put in the same place, erm, because the food was pretty reasonable and just trekking everywhere else was going to make it such a headache for the child care.

Who did he think was going to put a light on....they were all in cots except Madeleine? A burglar/child abductor is hardly going to put a light on.

Liars the lot of them.




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Re: A Rogatory Review /Thepottingshedder

Post  Panda on Sun 6 Nov - 18:49

Hi ann_chovey, notice too how the Oldfields had their child settled by 7.30pm as well, presumably so did they all.....very convenient of the children to
be asleep by then.

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Post  matthew on Sun 6 Nov - 22:34

M/O "where not everybody would be able to go because somebody would need to be babysitting

I will never believe that their daughter would be left alone with sickness/diarohea while they went for a bite to eat
My stomach would be in knots in this situation & i feel this stinky version from R/O is a lie


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Re: A Rogatory Review /Thepottingshedder

Post  LJC on Tue 8 Nov - 0:02

"Erm well we'd go into the room, which ordinarily we wouldn't do to be honest, erm but she seemed to have diarrhoea and kind of, I mean she'd settled quite well actually cos she'd been tired every evening, erm but every morning when she woke up, she had diarrhoea and it had gone right through her grow bag and so there's all this sort of horrendous smell, so in the evenings when we were checking, we'd go into the room just to see if you know, there was any sort of smell yet, erm and just to make sure she was alright, to make sure she hadn't been sick, partly I think cos Matt had been sick, just wanted to make sure she hadn't been, in case it was some sort of bug".

Shame she was not asked what on earth they did to treat this awful diarrhoea? If she had woken up EVERY MORNING with diarrhoea, then either something is seriously wrong with their treatment of her, or she was not treated for it in the first place. Dehydration, choking on vomit, extreme colic, any one of these other conditions could set in if diarrhoea is allowed to continue. And yet they still put her in the kid's club the next day? WHAT? Just to spread it amongst the other children? What awfully good doctors they are. She says there were six of them there who could adminster medical/life saving treatment, YES SIX OF THEM but no-one, it seems, could treat a child's diarrhoea and she had it EVERY MORNING and it went all the way through her grow bag. What a shame for such a young child with so many so called expert medics surrouding her.

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Post  kitti on Tue 8 Nov - 21:36

Didn't Rachel oldfield ring a 'friend' in the BBC at 12.30-1.00am Wednesday morning to inform them about Madeleine being 'abducted'?

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Post  Panda on Tue 8 Nov - 21:45

kitti wrote:Didn't Rachel oldfield ring a 'friend' in the BBC at 12.30-1.00am Wednesday morning to inform them about Madeleine being 'abducted'?

I know Rachel was the one Silvia Batista said was walking from room to room in 5a with her mobile to her ear telling someone that Madeleiene was
abducted. who phoned sky news?

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Post  kitti on Tue 8 Nov - 21:49

I don't know but I know she rang someone in the BBC...why ring that early when she could off been found after wondering off.

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Re: A Rogatory Review /Thepottingshedder

Post  LJC on Wed 9 Nov - 16:26




erm but every morning when she woke up, she had diarrhoea and it had gone right through her grow bag

Very interesting, its not a grow bag, its a Grobag, which is a type of sleeping bag.

http://www.gro.co.uk/Grobag-Baby-Sleep-Bags/View-all-products.html?TreeId=1

Not sure if this link above is working but as I know nothing anymore about babies and what they sleep in, I thought it was interesting to read up about these Grobags.

Could this be the reason there were no blankets in the cots in the McCann's room, because the children were in sleeping bags?

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Post  AnnaEsse on Wed 9 Nov - 16:44

LJC wrote:


erm but every morning when she woke up, she had diarrhoea and it had gone right through her grow bag

Very interesting, its not a grow bag, its a Grobag, which is a type of sleeping bag.

http://www.gro.co.uk/Grobag-Baby-Sleep-Bags/View-all-products.html?TreeId=1

Not sure if this link above is working but as I know nothing anymore about babies and what they sleep in, I thought it was interesting to read up about these Grobags.

Could this be the reason there were no blankets in the cots in the McCann's room, because the children were in sleeping bags?

Another one of those products, like Hoover that has become hoover, which has become a generic term for a baby sleeping bag.

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Post  Loopdaloop on Thu 10 Nov - 3:19

Bobsy wrote:Just read this and the reminder of a baby with such evil smelling and so excoriating diarrhoea being left tipped me over the edge so much so Hubby thought that I was having a heart attack. No, though my heart aches for a child with such lousey parents to leave it to stink in it's own excrement. But eh seems to be the norm in the NHS.
That apart hubby came rushing to me and then read what I have read before. This is the first thing he has read about this case, I usually read stuff to him. His first words "scum" his second "horror".
Now question, who can say this is responsible parenting? How did the parents of this child not have said child put onto the children at risk register? Many more questions about this set of parents.
Yes I agree with hubby, "scum".

Diarrhoea is a common side effect of medication.

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