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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 7 Nov - 22:22

Iris wrote:Worth having a wee look at the latest David Brett blog too.

Thanks Iris.

ETA: David says that BonyBum is asking where the money will come from if Pat successfully sues the McCanns! Well, if she is, perhaps she could ponder on the fact that the McCanns are well aware of where the money would come from if they successfully sue Amaral and they don't seem too bothered. Anyone wanna buy a warehouse of a house in Leicestershire?

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Post  Claudia79 on Tue 8 Nov - 11:27

fred wrote:Hi everybody!

I agree that this comment from Father Pacecho is quite disturbing.. I think he said that «the McCanns ,

As it happens, a couple of years ago I travelled on a Coach to Gatwick got chatting to the Lady sitting next to me and it turned out she lived in Faro
and a Friend of hers was also a friend of Mrs. Fenn.......small world eh? The Portugese believe Madeleine was thrown into the Sea from nearby cliffs.



Do they? I live here, and there are numerous people who have gone with the theory that she was abducted, never heard anyone say she was chucked off a cliff.

I live here too and never spoke to anyone who believed Madeleine was abducted. Ok, except one guy who was a native English speaker (sorry, can't remember his nationality for sure) but he didn't even know about Eddie and Keela. His opinion changed quite drastically as soon as I emailed him some links.

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Post  kitti on Tue 8 Nov - 12:17

If she was thrown into the sea then they are more callous than I thought.


I dont think so myself.

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The sea... cliffs etc... is unpredictable

Post  comperedna on Tue 8 Nov - 13:48

I think that method of disposal, whilst it initially might seem the most likely, is far too risky. Despite the effects of water, and crustacia and fish and all, currents can eventually move a once tightly wrapped and weighted parcel far away. Bones can wash up years later. However, I know Mediterranean currents are not as fierce as those in the North Sea... which is the source of my experience over such things... As for callousness, I've said before...a body, especially a wrapped one, is a thing... and not like a child. It might not even seem connected with the memory of a living child...

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Post  pennylane on Tue 8 Nov - 16:09

The risks and method of disposal are related to whether anyone was breathing down their necks at the time!

If they were feeling relatively confident and free to roam, then they would have the luxury and clarity of mind to select a safer and more permanent method, on the other hand if they felt their façade was in jeopardy of being rumbled any day, that could mean they had to do something fast and hope for the best.

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Urgency of solution... contraints of being under pressure...

Post  comperedna on Tue 8 Nov - 16:33

True pennylane, very true...

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Post  Loopdaloop on Thu 10 Nov - 3:16

kitti wrote:If she was thrown into the sea then they are more callous than I thought.


I dont think so myself.

I wouldn't be so sure, I think the sea as well due to Kates comments about jumping into the ocean to commit suicide.
I think she's unwittingly revealed the location as her suicidal ideation is very specific.


"I had an overwhelming urge to swim out across the ocean, as hard and as fast as I could; to swim and swim and swim until I was so far out and so exhausted I could just allow the water to pull me under and relieve me of this torment," she writes.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/may/08/madeleine-maccann-mother-suicidal-thoughts

I'm sure this urge was so that she could be reunited with her daughter... in the sea.

Although I kind of think that they cremated her in that pet crematoria and scattered some ashes in the sea and then held their memorial at the church with the priest officiating.

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Post  tanszi on Thu 10 Nov - 12:25

Hiya Loopadoop, i m not sure that a priest would agree to a ceremony for a child that he understood was dead whilst the whole world was looking for her, or any child that died in unusual circumstances without the appropriate official investigation. jimo.

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Post  Bobsy on Thu 10 Nov - 14:11

tanszi wrote:Hiya Loopadoop, i m not sure that a priest would agree to a ceremony for a child that he understood was dead whilst the whole world was looking for her, or any child that died in unusual circumstances without the appropriate official investigation. jimo.

Good afternoon Tanszi. I am not a Catholic so don't know the answer, but would a priest put the soul of the dead and the remains of the dead being placed into consecrated ground as his goal rather than the legal aspects. Probably putting this very badly but I am sure that they cannot divulge details of confession so this is maybe also aplicable.

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Post  tanszi on Thu 10 Nov - 18:59

hiya Bobsy, neither am i but some family are, a priest will keep confession details sacrosanct, but then if there were a confession by anyone that some had died and they didnt want the authorities to know, i think it would be a step too far for anyone to then ask a priest to bury said body and expect him to do it. Im not disagreeing or saying its not possible, for me its just a bit too far.

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Post  Annabel on Sun 13 Nov - 18:02

How Media ‘Experts’ Mislead the Public

http://pjmedia.com/blog/cable-news-snake-oil-how-media-experts-mislead-the-public/3/

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Post  Guest on Sun 13 Nov - 18:27

Annabel wrote:How Media ‘Experts’ Mislead the Public

http://pjmedia.com/blog/cable-news-snake-oil-how-media-experts-mislead-the-public/3/

Exactly the same article could be applied to one Clarence Mitchell. Especially as it is full of inaccuracies such as "legally cleared" and "she accuses them of murder".

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