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Sarkozy called Cameron an obstinate kid.

Post  Panda on Thu 15 Dec - 15:01


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Nicolas Sarkozy, pictured with David Cameron earlier this year, reportedly made the remarks to party MPs





11:49am UK, Thursday December 15, 2011





Relations between the UK and France appeared to worsen as it
was reported Nicolas Sarkozy accused David Cameron of behaving like an
"obstinate kid" over EU treaty negotiations.



A satirical but credible magazine, Le Canard Enchaine, said the
French president told his party's MPs he achieved a "good coup" by
resisting Mr Cameron's demands at a meeting of European Union leaders.


"It's the first time that we have said 'No' to the English," Mr Sarkozy reportedly said at a private meeting.


"Cameron behaved like an obstinate kid, with a single obsession:
protecting the City (of London), which wants to carry on behaving like
an offshore centre. No country supported him. That is the mark of a
political defeat.


"Objectively, it was a good coup. I manoeuvred well. The whole world recognised that my proposal was the only possible course.


"The accord will perhaps not put an end to the crisis, but it is a
tool for facing up to it. The dynamism of the Franco-German axis enabled
us to rally 26 countries," he reportedly added.


On Wednesday evening, Mr Cameron tried to shore up support for his
position by calling leaders who may also feel sceptical about the
"fiscal compact".









No country supported him. That is the mark of a political defeat.


Nicolas Sarkozy's alleged remarks











He rang the leaders of the Czech Republic and Sweden - countries
which, like Britain, are not in the eurozone - as well as Irish prime
minister Enda Kenny, who believes he may need to hold a referendum on
the deal.


When
EU leaders met in Brussels, Mr Cameron refused to sign up to a plan
which would make budget controls, intended to head off a repeat of the
eurozone crisis, legally binding.



He said the deal was not in Britain's interests as he did not manage to secure an exemption for the City of London.


The other 26 leaders indicated they would back the fiscal compact,
although some said they had to consult their parliaments first.


Conservative eurosceptics were overjoyed at the Prime Minister's
decision to distance the country from the EU, but Liberal Democrat and
Labour politicians have warned against isolating Britain from European
allies.


Deputy Prime Minister Nick Clegg said he was disappointed by the outcome of the summit.







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Re: Sarkozy called Cameron an obstinate kid.

Post  fuzeta on Thu 15 Dec - 16:50

Disgusting behaviour by Sarkozy. In fact his behaviour has been dreadful all through this saga. Angela Merkel seems to be trying to mend a few fences now she realises what they have done. Plus they need our money. I think she might be having words with Sarkozy to bring him to heel, fat chance!

David Cameron is behaving the perfect gentleman as a leader of a civilised country should.

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Post  margaret on Thu 15 Dec - 18:42

Well said Fuzeta, l've never had any feelings about Sarkozy but l don't like or respect him now.

I think he's spat his dummy out because he couldn't grab our money!

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Post  Angelina on Thu 15 Dec - 18:53

And hopefully he never will grab it

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Re: Sarkozy called Cameron an obstinate kid.

Post  fuzeta on Thu 15 Dec - 19:28

Angelina wrote:And hopefully he never will grab it

Oh Angelina I do so hope he will not x


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Re: Sarkozy called Cameron an obstinate kid.

Post  malena stool on Fri 16 Dec - 15:23

I would think Cameron has received and survived less hurtful insults from far more intelligent and credible human beings than a primordial dwarf like Sarcozy.

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Post  Panda on Fri 16 Dec - 16:08

malena stool wrote:I would think Cameron has received and survived less hurtful insults from far more intelligent and credible human beings than a primordial dwarf like Sarcozy.

Apparently they are all playing the blame game in Europe now.

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Re: Sarkozy called Cameron an obstinate kid.

Post  malena stool on Fri 16 Dec - 16:30

Panda wrote:
malena stool wrote:I would think Cameron has received and survived less hurtful insults from far more intelligent and credible human beings than a primordial dwarf like Sarcozy.

Apparently they are all playing the blame game in Europe now.
They all have their own agenda, especially Merkel and Sarcozy who have their sights set on European domination. I wouldn't trust any of them any more than I'd trust Cameron but this time he seems to have taken the our side, which is more than the gonad-less Clegg or Miliband would have done had we the misfortune to have them in Cameron's position.

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Re: Sarkozy called Cameron an obstinate kid.

Post  Panda on Fri 16 Dec - 16:49

malena stool wrote:
Panda wrote:
malena stool wrote:I would think Cameron has received and survived less hurtful insults from far more intelligent and credible human beings than a primordial dwarf like Sarcozy.

Apparently they are all playing the blame game in Europe now.
They all have their own agenda, especially Merkel and Sarcozy who have their sights set on European domination. I wouldn't trust any of them any more than I'd trust Cameron but this time he seems to have taken the our side, which is more than the gonad-less Clegg or Miliband would have done had we the misfortune to have them in Cameron's position.

malena, the consensus outside the Europe seems to be that the EU has been playing the fiddle while Rome burnes and the ECB MUST take action. However,
the ECB is not allowed under it"s mandate to lend money , it"s prime role is to keep inflation down. to alter the remit would mean altering the Treaty which
those outside the Eurozone would obviously veto. U.S. Congress and other Countreis have said the IMF is not there to bail out Europe but help small
Countries .

However, the effect on the World if the Euro fails would be disaastrous, already some Countries are reducing their holding of Euros so I think the loan
will be given.

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Re: Sarkozy called Cameron an obstinate kid.

Post  malena stool on Fri 16 Dec - 19:17

Hi Panda,
I fail to see where it benefits anyone here in the UK to support a flawed and failing despotic system that is overseen by narcissistic demigods. The EU has taken billions from this country to support the unrealistic inefficient French farming programmes whilst turning our farming industry into a non profitable concern since we entered what was the Common Market.

Do we really need to have an EU commission who have access to £millions of our cash to decide and dictate the shape of bananas or cucumbers? Why do our fishermen have to lay up their ships become redundant and retrain when Spain sends its fleets to fish in waters we are not allowed to enter? Is there any need to stockpile butter yet push prices through the roof? What right does an unelected European bureaucrat have to dictate to our elected Parliament? We are as well out of the Euro zone and would be better out of the EU than in it.

The Federal States of Europe that the dictators Merkel and Sarcozy crave to lead cannot and will never work...there being no common tongue, no common policy and no common interest between the 400 million or so people which inhabit the continent.

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Re: Sarkozy called Cameron an obstinate kid.

Post  Panda on Fri 16 Dec - 19:33

malena stool wrote:Hi Panda,
I fail to see where it benefits anyone here in the UK to support a flawed and failing despotic system that is overseen by narcissistic demigods. The EU has taken billions from this country to support the unrealistic inefficient French farming programmes whilst turning our farming industry into a non profitable concern since we entered what was the Common Market.

Do we really need to have an EU commission who have access to £millions of our cash to decide and dictate the shape of bananas or cucumbers? Why do our fishermen have to lay up their ships become redundant and retrain when Spain sends its fleets to fish in waters we are not allowed to enter? Is there any need to stockpile butter yet push prices through the roof? What right does an unelected European bureaucrat have to dictate to our elected Parliament? We are as well out of the Euro zone and would be better out of the EU than in it.

The Federal States of Europe that the dictators Merkel and Sarcozy crave to lead cannot and will never work...there being no common tongue, no common policy and no common interest between the 400 million or so people which inhabit the continent.

I agree with everything you say but unless the Euro breaks down and with it the EU britain will be marginalised. Switzerland is doing very well because their banks are full of Tax avoidance money and they export quality Watches , have a thriving Tourist Industry and are not plagued by juvenile
delinquents.

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Re: Sarkozy called Cameron an obstinate kid.

Post  Lillyofthevalley on Fri 16 Dec - 20:04

Panda wrote:
malena stool wrote:Hi Panda,
I fail to see where it benefits anyone here in the UK to support a flawed and failing despotic system that is overseen by narcissistic demigods. The EU has taken billions from this country to support the unrealistic inefficient French farming programmes whilst turning our farming industry into a non profitable concern since we entered what was the Common Market.

Do we really need to have an EU commission who have access to £millions of our cash to decide and dictate the shape of bananas or cucumbers? Why do our fishermen have to lay up their ships become redundant and retrain when Spain sends its fleets to fish in waters we are not allowed to enter? Is there any need to stockpile butter yet push prices through the roof? What right does an unelected European bureaucrat have to dictate to our elected Parliament? We are as well out of the Euro zone and would be better out of the EU than in it.

The Federal States of Europe that the dictators Merkel and Sarcozy crave to lead cannot and will never work...there being no common tongue, no common policy and no common interest between the 400 million or so people which inhabit the continent.

I agree with everything you say but unless the Euro breaks down and with it the EU britain will be marginalised. Switzerland is doing very well because their banks are full of Tax avoidance money and they export quality Watches , have a thriving Tourist Industry and are not plagued by juvenile
delinquents.

Well siad Panda

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Re: Sarkozy called Cameron an obstinate kid.

Post  Panda on Fri 16 Dec - 20:17

Lillyofthevalley wrote:
Panda wrote:
malena stool wrote:Hi Panda,
I fail to see where it benefits anyone here in the UK to support a flawed and failing despotic system that is overseen by narcissistic demigods. The EU has taken billions from this country to support the unrealistic inefficient French farming programmes whilst turning our farming industry into a non profitable concern since we entered what was the Common Market.

Do we really need to have an EU commission who have access to £millions of our cash to decide and dictate the shape of bananas or cucumbers? Why do our fishermen have to lay up their ships become redundant and retrain when Spain sends its fleets to fish in waters we are not allowed to enter? Is there any need to stockpile butter yet push prices through the roof? What right does an unelected European bureaucrat have to dictate to our elected Parliament? We are as well out of the Euro zone and would be better out of the EU than in it.

The Federal States of Europe that the dictators Merkel and Sarcozy crave to lead cannot and will never work...there being no common tongue, no common policy and no common interest between the 400 million or so people which inhabit the continent.

I agree with everything you say but unless the Euro breaks down and with it the EU britain will be marginalised. Switzerland is doing very well because their banks are full of Tax avoidance money and they export quality Watches , have a thriving Tourist Industry and are not plagued by juvenile
delinquents.

Well siad Panda

Hi Lilyofthevalley,

The whole EU structure is a mess and if you read some of the comments on the EC thread, the consensus is that Merkel and Sarkozy are putting the
cart before the horse by trying to impose a fiscal policy when the Eurozone has no growth prospects.

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Post  malena stool on Fri 16 Dec - 20:41

Panda wrote:
malena stool wrote:Hi Panda,
I fail to see where it benefits anyone here in the UK to support a flawed and failing despotic system that is overseen by narcissistic demigods. The EU has taken billions from this country to support the unrealistic inefficient French farming programmes whilst turning our farming industry into a non profitable concern since we entered what was the Common Market.

Do we really need to have an EU commission who have access to £millions of our cash to decide and dictate the shape of bananas or cucumbers? Why do our fishermen have to lay up their ships become redundant and retrain when Spain sends its fleets to fish in waters we are not allowed to enter? Is there any need to stockpile butter yet push prices through the roof? What right does an unelected European bureaucrat have to dictate to our elected Parliament? We are as well out of the Euro zone and would be better out of the EU than in it.

The Federal States of Europe that the dictators Merkel and Sarcozy crave to lead cannot and will never work...there being no common tongue, no common policy and no common interest between the 400 million or so people which inhabit the continent.

I agree with everything you say but unless the Euro breaks down and with it the EU britain will be marginalised. Switzerland is doing very well because their banks are full of Tax avoidance money and they export quality Watches , have a thriving Tourist Industry and are not plagued by juvenile
delinquents.
We have always managed to survive and ride out adversities, often caused by the very same European nations who are bleeding us financially at this time. We possess just as good and a more varied tourist industry as do the Swiss and if we leave the EU completely we would have the opportunity to return to our own innovative ways, rebuild our industries shipped abroad and skills lost to the cheap European labour market. Certainly once freed of the shackles of the Human Rights idiocy our courts would be allowed to punish those who flagrantly abuse our laws and avoid retribution due to EU dictats.

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Post  Panda on Fri 16 Dec - 20:59

malena, Ted Heath led us to believe we were joining a Common Market and it has morphed into a Dictatorship. However, Hungary, Finland, Ireland
the U.K. and Czechloslovakia might just help to be the undoing of this new fiscal policy. It"s ironic that the existing fiscal policy was breached by France
and Germany.!!!!! Anyway, the New Year promises to be very eventful with regard to the EU so we shall just wait and see.

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Post  malena stool on Fri 16 Dec - 21:39

Panda wrote:malena, Ted Heath led us to believe we were joining a Common Market and it has morphed into a Dictatorship. However, Hungary, Finland, Ireland
the U.K. and Czechloslovakia might just help to be the undoing of this new fiscal policy. It"s ironic that the existing fiscal policy was breached by France
and Germany.!!!!! Anyway, the New Year promises to be very eventful with regard to the EU so we shall just wait and see.
Therein lies the problem Panda, we did turn our back on our trading partners in the Commonwealth to join a Common Market, which many including myself, believe was against the wish of the electorate purely to satisfy the financial greed of the Heath administration.
Germany and France have yet to abide by any policy they themselves have drawn up and enforced if it conflicts with their own financial stability...whereas we have hamstrung ourselves in order to fall in line with their crazy edicts.
Roll on the collapse of the Euro if it will contribute to bringing down the bureaucratic madhouse that is bleeding us white.

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Post  fuzeta on Fri 16 Dec - 23:15

I don't think even Ted Heath would have any idea that it has become what it is today.

The whole business with Sarkozy and the powers that be in France is starting to remind me of the Holy Grail.

Remember the French in the castle " Go away you English pig dog before I taunt you one more time"

Is that not what they are doing now? Disgraceful behaviour. I am pleased that we are continuing to behave impeccably.

Although when push comes to shove I hope we tell them what for

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Post  malena stool on Sat 17 Dec - 19:26

fuzeta wrote:I don't think even Ted Heath would have any idea that it has become what it is today.

The whole business with Sarkozy and the powers that be in France is starting to remind me of the Holy Grail.

Remember the French in the castle " Go away you English pig dog before I taunt you one more time"

Is that not what they are doing now? Disgraceful behaviour. I am pleased that we are continuing to behave impeccably.

Although when push comes to shove I hope we tell them what for

Hi fuzeta, the Monty Python Team could make a come back using Sarcozy and Merkel's characters as the leading roles as back street estate agents turned money laundering accountants.

Here is the Taunting scene from The Holy Grail.

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Post  fuzeta on Sat 17 Dec - 20:48

Oh thank you so much for that Malena Is'nt it wonderful. I could watch it over and over and it is spot on for Sarkozy and friends

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