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Post  gillyspot on Wed 4 Jan - 23:27

The remit for the Madeleine McCann review is now online.

"Op Grange Remit

The support and expertise proffered by the Commissioner will be provided by the Homicide & Serious Crime Command - SCD1.

The activity, in the first instance, will be that of an ‘investigative review’. This will entail a review of the whole of the investigation(s) which have been conducted in to the circumstances of Madeleine McCann’s disappearance.

The focus of the review will be of the material held by three main stakeholders (and in the following order of primacy);

The Portuguese Law Enforcement agencies.
UK Law Enforcement agencies,
Other private investigative agencies/staff and organisations.

The investigative review is intended to collate, record and analyse what has gone before.

It is to examine the case and seek to determine, (as if the abduction occurred in the UK) what additional, new investigative approaches we would take and which can assist the Portuguese authorities in progressing the matter. Whilst ordinarily a review has no investigative remit whatsoever- the scale and extent of this enquiry cannot permit for such an approach. It will take too long to progress to any “action stage” if activity is given wholly and solely to a review process.

The ‘investigative review’ will be conducted with transparency, openness and thoroughness.

The work will be overseen through the Gold Group management structure, which will also manage the central relationships with other key stakeholders and provide continuing oversight and direction to the investigative remit.

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The ‘investigative review’ will be conducted with transparency, openness and thoroughness. - We better hold them to that
as if the abduction occurred in the UK Note they are using "abduction" word - this is what the Daily Star must be on about. So much for "thoroughness" if they are concentrating on the abduction theory only

And there is a memo also on the met site


"For the information of all UK law enforcement agencies.

The Metropolitan Police Service is conducting an Investigative Review into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann aged 3yrs on the 3rd May 2007 in Praia da Luz Portugal.

At 12.00hrs on Tuesday 14th June 2011 UK primacy for this matter formally passed from Leicestershire Constabulary to the Metropolitan Police Service under Operation GRANGE.

All future communication should be sent to the incident room at:-

Major Investigation Team 5
Homicide and Serious Crime Command
Belgravia Police station
202-206 Buckingham Palace Rd
London SW1W 9SX

Tel 020 7321 9251
Fax 020 7321 6994
E-mail : Operation.Grange@met.police.uk
Operation.Grange@met.pnn.police.uk


Urgent out of hours contact can be made via the Serious Crime Directorate Reserve at New Scotland Yard on 020 7230 8666."

http://www.met.police.uk/cgi-bin/htsearch?words=madeleine+mccann&config=metpolice&restrict=&Search+this+site.x=0&Search+this+site.y=0&Search+this+site=Search+this+site


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Re: Remit for Operation Grange now online

Post  Guest on Wed 4 Jan - 23:32

"abduction"

What abduction.


That is very worrying, if they are basing this review upon baseless grounds.

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Post  Loopdaloop on Thu 5 Jan - 0:20

I wouldn't read to much into that. As we all know it is baseless they will rule it out quickly by starting with it won't they!
By them stating that they will examine the case (as if the abduction happened in the UK) it means that they are taking ownership as if the 'abduction' did happen in the UK! Which is a good thing! It doesn't mean that they won't be looking at other avenues, however by using the term utilised when first reported it keeps the Mccann's and Tapas onside.

The best bit is the following:

" Whilst ordinarily a review has no investigative remit whatsoever- the scale and extent of this enquiry cannot permit for such an approach."

This means that it is an open investigation does it not!! as if the crime happened in the UK!
We know from all the myriad of methods used in the Stephen Lawrence case that they will truely be on it this time, and don't forget it was the British Police which helped the Portugese to develop the alternate hypothesis! They are also preparing for 'action stages' !!

I have more faith following that announcement!

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Post  Loopdaloop on Thu 5 Jan - 0:29

gillyspot wrote:

Major Investigation Team 5
Homicide and Serious Crime Command
Belgravia Police station
202-206 Buckingham Palace Rd
London SW1W 9SX

Tel 020 7321 9251
Fax 020 7321 6994
E-mail : Operation.Grange@met.police.uk
Operation.Grange@met.pnn.police.uk




Urgent out of hours contact can be made via the Serious Crime Directorate Reserve at New Scotland Yard on 020 7230 8666."

http://www.met.police.uk/cgi-bin/htsearch?words=madeleine+mccann&config=metpolice&restrict=&Search+this+site.x=0&Search+this+site.y=0&Search+this+site=Search+this+site

One more thing the postal address has changed It used to be:

SCDI - Homlclde and Serlous Crims
Command
Rm 3.30 1st Floor
Belgravia Police Station
202-2O6 Buckingham patace
Road
London
SW1W gSX

Does it mean they've changed from room 3.30 now!

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Re: Remit for Operation Grange now online

Post  NoStone on Thu 5 Jan - 7:57

Grange?? Why call it Operation Grange??


Definition of GRANGE

1 archaic: granary, barn


2 farm; especially: a farmhouse with outbuildings


3 capitalized: one of the lodges of a national fraternal association originally made up of farmers; also: the association itself

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/grange

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The Grange

Post  NoStone on Thu 5 Jan - 8:22

The Grange

American television viewers who were fans of Little House on the Prairie series may recall the father character, Charles Ingalls, discussing "The Grange."

The Grange, officially know as the Order of Patrons of Husbandry, was established in 1867. The founder was Oliver Hudson Kelley, a Minnesota farmer. He'd been sent by Isaac Newton (the first American Commissioner of Agriculture) to the Southern states to report on the farms there after the Civil War. It was on this trip that got him thinking about the lack of unity and organization among farmers.

Kelley was a Mason and he envisioned a fraternal organization for farmers. In 1867 when it came to be, the Grange was more of a union for the farmers to help them ban together for protection from being taken advantage of by merchants, farm suppliers, railroads and warehouses. However, it was slow going for Kelley to get his lodges started. In fact, had his wife not supported him with encouragement and money (from a recent inheritance), it is possible that he would have given up his dream of the Grange.

The Grange was the first fraternal organization to admit women as full-fledged members. Unlike other fraternal organizations that have developed female auxiliary groups, The Grange allows them to enroll as a regular members. The admission age for members is much younger than other organizations as well. Men and woman as young as 14 may seek membership in The Grange. While originally, this society was intended for farmers, apparently today if you have an interest in farming you can apply. The mother-in-law of one of the authors met her future husband at a grange social function in Idaho.

http://rwguide.rootsweb.ancestry.com/lesson18.htm

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Re: Remit for Operation Grange now online

Post  Panda on Thu 5 Jan - 8:46

It might be an Acronym or something like it. More interesting is that Andy Redwood is not listed as being in charge and this time there is a phone number
which makes it more open. IMO

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Post  Lillyofthevalley on Thu 5 Jan - 9:41

The End Is Nigh wrote:"abduction"

What abduction.


That is very worrying, if they are basing this review upon baseless grounds.

Not to me TEIN how I read it is they use abduction because its a case of innocent until proven guilty, or could it be put there to give certain people a false sense of security,,, aimo

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Re: Remit for Operation Grange now online

Post  NoStone on Thu 5 Jan - 9:47

Lillyofthevalley wrote:
The End Is Nigh wrote:"abduction"

What abduction.


That is very worrying, if they are basing this review upon baseless grounds.

Not to me TEIN how I read it is they use abduction because its a case of innocent until proven guilty, or could it be put there to give certain people a false sense of security,,, aimo

Abduction also implies that someone is guilty Lilly of the Valley! 'Disappearence' would have been more neutral and a more objective place to start so I do share TIEN's concerns that the 'review' has been given a skewed remit!

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Post  Lillyofthevalley on Thu 5 Jan - 9:55

Team McCann have since day one hammered home the word "abduction" Mitchell has made sure of that 99% of people will associate Maddy = Abduction.

Scotland Yard, after the hacking scandel and now the Stephen Lawrence case can not afford to mess up this case, cover anything up or protect a UK Government just because 8 Doctors decided to go out drinking night after night and lost one of there children.....Doreen Lawrence was very scaving of the Met, imo she on her own has humiliated the Met, they have a lot of hard work building up their reputation, will they really be prepared to be humilated again, I dont think so!! JMO.

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Post  NoStone on Thu 5 Jan - 9:59

Panda wrote:It might be an Acronym or something like it. More interesting is that Andy Redwood is not listed as being in charge and this time there is a phone number
which makes it more open. IMO

That will give TM the chance to ring in lots of sightings then eh Panda??

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Post  NoStone on Thu 5 Jan - 10:06

Lillyofthevalley wrote:Team McCann have since day one hammered home the word "abduction" Mitchell has made sure of that 99% of people will associate Maddy = Abduction.

Scotland Yard, after the hacking scandel and now the Stephen Lawrence case can not afford to mess up this case, cover anything up or protect a UK Government just because 8 Doctors decided to go out drinking night after night and lost one of there children.....Doreen Lawrence was very scaving of the Met, imo she on her own has humiliated the Met, they have a lot of hard work building up their reputation, will they really be prepared to be humilated again, I dont think so!! JMO.

But the police shuld rise above any of Michell's brainwashing and be objective. A girl disappeared - now how could that have happened? What are the possibilities? Not start from a position of - she was abducted so now we have to disprove that before we look at other possibilities.

The problem we have I think is that the police did not get to write the brief - I think it was written by the Home Office to accompany Cameron's intructions to fund the 'review'.

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Re: Remit for Operation Grange now online

Post  Panda on Thu 5 Jan - 10:36

NoStone wrote:
Panda wrote:It might be an Acronym or something like it. More interesting is that Andy Redwood is not listed as being in charge and this time there is a phone number
which makes it more open. IMO

That will give TM the chance to ring in lots of sightings then eh Panda??

Morning NoStone......NAH, they would know it was the McCanns straight away with the Scottish and Liverpool accents.

Mind you, I wouldn"t be at all surprised if between now and February we have a Press Report courtesy of Clarence that Madeleine has been sighted in
Outer Mongolia, yet more proof that Madeleine is alive, they just need to find her.

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Re: Remit for Operation Grange now online

Post  margaret on Thu 5 Jan - 12:57



Hmmm can't say it fills me with confidence at first glance, it does say 'disappearance' before the abduction bit and why are they including 'other private investigative agencies/staff and organisations' hope these aren't any of the Mcs pretendy detectives!! Can't say Metodo3 ARE involved if they've siezed boxes of data from them??

Then again, l can't see the Portuguese even giving the time of day to the Met if they didn't think some good could come from this review?

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Post  Panda on Thu 5 Jan - 13:20

margaret wrote:

Hmmm can't say it fills me with confidence at first glance, it does say 'disappearance' before the abduction bit and why are they including 'other private investigative agencies/staff and organisations' hope these aren't any of the Mcs pretendy detectives!! Can't say Metodo3 ARE involved if they've siezed boxes of data from them??

Then again, l can't see the Portuguese even giving the time of day to the Met if they didn't think some good could come from this review?

Hi margaret, I think the PJ will be only too pleased to liaise with the Met because if they concede there is no evidence that the PJ did not follow all
leads a) It will look really bad for the McCanns and their constant criticism of how little the PJ did. b) the PJ can close the case instead of shelving it
and offer the Met the shelved files c) the PJ doesn"t have to spend any more money on this case. d) demand an apology from the McCanns for all the
times they have insulted them.

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Post  Guest on Thu 5 Jan - 13:54

Panda wrote:
NoStone wrote:
Panda wrote:It might be an Acronym or something like it. More interesting is that Andy Redwood is not listed as being in charge and this time there is a phone number
which makes it more open. IMO

That will give TM the chance to ring in lots of sightings then eh Panda??

Morning NoStone......NAH, they would know it was the McCanns straight away with the Scottish and Liverpool accents.

Mind you, I wouldn"t be at all surprised if between now and February we have a Press Report courtesy of Clarence that Madeleine has been sighted in
Outer Mongolia, yet more proof that Madeleine is alive, they just need to find her.

I read somewhere that the names of Police operations are selected randomly by computer, don't know if this is correct or not. Of course Kate and Gerry would expect Operation Grange, can hardly expect Lord and Lady Muck to be investigated by Operation Maisonette now, can we.

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Post  chrissie on Thu 5 Jan - 14:01

Iris wrote:
Panda wrote:
NoStone wrote:
Panda wrote:It might be an Acronym or something like it. More interesting is that Andy Redwood is not listed as being in charge and this time there is a phone number
which makes it more open. IMO

That will give TM the chance to ring in lots of sightings then eh Panda??

Morning NoStone......NAH, they would know it was the McCanns straight away with the Scottish and Liverpool accents.

Mind you, I wouldn"t be at all surprised if between now and February we have a Press Report courtesy of Clarence that Madeleine has been sighted in
Outer Mongolia, yet more proof that Madeleine is alive, they just need to find her.

I read somewhere that the names of Police operations are selected randomly by computer, don't know if this is correct or not. Of course Kate and Gerry would expect Operation Grange, can hardly expect Lord and Lady Muck to be investigated by Operation Maisonette now, can we.


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Re: Remit for Operation Grange now online

Post  Panda on Thu 5 Jan - 14:05

Iris wrote:
Panda wrote:
NoStone wrote:
Panda wrote:It might be an Acronym or something like it. More interesting is that Andy Redwood is not listed as being in charge and this time there is a phone number
which makes it more open. IMO

That will give TM the chance to ring in lots of sightings then eh Panda??

Morning NoStone......NAH, they would know it was the McCanns straight away with the Scottish and Liverpool accents.

Mind you, I wouldn"t be at all surprised if between now and February we have a Press Report courtesy of Clarence that Madeleine has been sighted in
Outer Mongolia, yet more proof that Madeleine is alive, they just need to find her.

I read somewhere that the names of Police operations are selected randomly by computer, don't know if this is correct or not. Of course Kate and Gerry would expect Operation Grange, can hardly expect Lord and Lady Muck to be investigated by Operation Maisonette now, can we.


Actually, you are right.....Operation Weeting comes to mind and it was said names were selected randomly....do the Police have to rely on a Computer,
we could think of a bizarre name surely.?

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Re: Remit for Operation Grange now online

Post  Guest on Thu 5 Jan - 14:08

Operation Springer.

As in Spaniel.

Or Jerry.

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Post  gillyspot on Thu 5 Jan - 17:35

Operation SCAM (rhymes with McCann) - well nearly!

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Post  NoStone on Thu 5 Jan - 17:52

gillyspot wrote:Operation SCAM (rhymes with McCann) - well nearly!

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Post  margaret on Thu 5 Jan - 17:52

Panda wrote:
Actually, you are right.....Operation Weeting comes to mind and it was said names were selected randomly....do the Police have to rely on a Computer,
we could think of a bizarre name surely.?

Operation Weeting is investigating the phone hacking scandal and it ties in with Operation Elvedon which is investigating the payments to police from the hacking scandal.

Both places are very close together in Norfolk so l'm not sure they were random. Or maybe Weeting was random and they chose Elvedon knowing it was close by and a close tie in with Weeting??? Just my tuppenceworth.

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Post  almostgothic on Thu 5 Jan - 17:59

Operation Alreasons.


'Cos Clarrie is always telling us that he can't say anything for operational reasons.

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Post  Panda on Thu 5 Jan - 18:32

Operation Wider Agenda

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Post  Guest on Thu 5 Jan - 18:36

Operation Cancelled?

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