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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  Not Born Yesterday on Thu 19 Jan - 13:04

I can't now get the image of Gladys from Hi-de-hi saying "there's rude" from my mind!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ZwNEte3Dw

She doesn't alas say it in this clip though.

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  jodel on Thu 19 Jan - 13:05

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Well, I know where your IP address places you.

I know that, but you cannot hear an accent on the internet.

Ah wiz brung up in a far northern flung bit, but speak ordinary English on notice boards, jist tae make sure Ah dinnae git labelled a right scunner.

ETA: and 'there's rude,' is not accent!

It is dialect and when said in a Welsh accent sounds natural- see Gavin and Stacy and Stella.

Of course it's bleedin' dialect! That's pretty obvious!

You are rude and off message- I never said it was accent. I merely said that accent was not obvious over the internet.

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  AnnaEsse on Thu 19 Jan - 13:06

Not Born Yesterday wrote:I can't now get the image of Gladys from Hi-de-hi saying "there's rude" from my mind!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3ZwNEte3Dw

She doesn't alas say it in this clip though.

So, what have we got? Gladys from Hi-de-hi crossed with Clare in the Community. Well, there's interesting!

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  AnnaEsse on Thu 19 Jan - 13:07

jodel wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
jodel wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
jodel wrote:

I know that, but you cannot hear an accent on the internet.

Ah wiz brung up in a far northern flung bit, but speak ordinary English on notice boards, jist tae make sure Ah dinnae git labelled a right scunner.

ETA: and 'there's rude,' is not accent!

It is dialect and when said in a Welsh accent sounds natural- see Gavin and Stacy and Stella.

Of course it's bleedin' dialect! That's pretty obvious!

You are rude and off message- I never said it was accent. I merely said that accent was not obvious over the internet.

If not implying that it was accent, why is it significant to mention that we couldn't hear accent when you said, 'There's rude.'?

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  jodel on Thu 19 Jan - 13:08

Not Born Yesterday wrote:I can't now get the image of Gladys from Hi-de-hi saying "there's rude" from my mind!


She doesn't alas say it in this clip though.

Thanks for the support that 'There's rude' is normal Welsh idiom- some people just think it is bad English- a sort of colonial attitude.

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  jodel on Thu 19 Jan - 13:09

AnnaEsse wrote:
Not Born Yesterday wrote:I can't now get the image of Gladys from Hi-de-hi saying "there's rude" from my mind!


She doesn't alas say it in this clip though.

So, what have we got? Gladys from Hi-de-hi crossed with Clare in the Community. Well, there's interesting!

Similar to the concept of Ma Broon crossed with Attila the Hen.

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  AnnaEsse on Thu 19 Jan - 13:09

jodel wrote:
Not Born Yesterday wrote:I can't now get the image of Gladys from Hi-de-hi saying "there's rude" from my mind!


She doesn't alas say it in this clip though.

Thanks for the support that 'There's rude' is normal Welsh idiom- some people just think it is bad English- a sort of colonial attitude.

When did England colonise Wales?

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  jodel on Thu 19 Jan - 13:10

AnnaEsse wrote:
jodel wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
jodel wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:

Ah wiz brung up in a far northern flung bit, but speak ordinary English on notice boards, jist tae make sure Ah dinnae git labelled a right scunner.

ETA: and 'there's rude,' is not accent!

It is dialect and when said in a Welsh accent sounds natural- see Gavin and Stacy and Stella.

Of course it's bleedin' dialect! That's pretty obvious!

You are rude and off message- I never said it was accent. I merely said that accent was not obvious over the internet.

If not implying that it was accent, why is it significant to mention that we couldn't hear accent when you said, 'There's rude.'?

Oh for crying out loud, because if it was said with an accent it would sound perfectly normal- not bad English as some pedants were implying.

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  jodel on Thu 19 Jan - 13:13

AnnaEsse wrote:
jodel wrote:
Not Born Yesterday wrote:I can't now get the image of Gladys from Hi-de-hi saying "there's rude" from my mind!


She doesn't alas say it in this clip though.

Thanks for the support that 'There's rude' is normal Welsh idiom- some people just think it is bad English- a sort of colonial attitude.

When did England colonise Wales?

1536

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  AnnaEsse on Thu 19 Jan - 13:14

jodel wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
jodel wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
jodel wrote:

It is dialect and when said in a Welsh accent sounds natural- see Gavin and Stacy and Stella.

Of course it's bleedin' dialect! That's pretty obvious!

You are rude and off message- I never said it was accent. I merely said that accent was not obvious over the internet.

If not implying that it was accent, why is it significant to mention that we couldn't hear accent when you said, 'There's rude.'?

Oh for crying out loud, because if it was said with an accent it would sound perfectly normal- not bad English as some pedants were implying.

Those pedants are actually correct. It's not grammatically correct English.

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  almostgothic on Thu 19 Jan - 13:16

Someone called Nessa Jenkins used to mod a Pro Forum.

Just thought I'd throw that into the mix.

Not that it takes us any further on ...

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  jodel on Thu 19 Jan - 13:18

AnnaEsse wrote:
jodel wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
jodel wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:

Of course it's bleedin' dialect! That's pretty obvious!

You are rude and off message- I never said it was accent. I merely said that accent was not obvious over the internet.

If not implying that it was accent, why is it significant to mention that we couldn't hear accent when you said, 'There's rude.'?

Oh for crying out loud, because if it was said with an accent it would sound perfectly normal- not bad English as some pedants were implying.

Those pedants are actually correct. It's not grammatically correct English.

But it is grammatically correct Welsh English. Much like Lallans is grammatically correct Scots English, even when most people cannot make sense of Auld Lang Syne.

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  jodel on Thu 19 Jan - 13:20

almostgothic wrote:Someone called Nessa Jenkins used to mod a Pro Forum.

Just thought I'd throw that into the mix.

Not that it takes us any further on ...

Nessa Jenkins is a character in Gavin and Stacy.

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  AnnaEsse on Thu 19 Jan - 13:20

jodel wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
jodel wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
jodel wrote:

You are rude and off message- I never said it was accent. I merely said that accent was not obvious over the internet.

If not implying that it was accent, why is it significant to mention that we couldn't hear accent when you said, 'There's rude.'?

Oh for crying out loud, because if it was said with an accent it would sound perfectly normal- not bad English as some pedants were implying.

Those pedants are actually correct. It's not grammatically correct English.

But it is grammatically correct Welsh English. Much like Lallans is grammatically correct Scots English, even when most people cannot make sense of Auld Lang Syne.

Oh dear! It's simply dialect and however you look at it, it's not grammatically correct English!

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  Guest on Thu 19 Jan - 13:21

Sorry to interrupt, but can the Thread please revert to its Topic, rather than being a platform for one Member who cannot debate nicely?

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  jodel on Thu 19 Jan - 13:23

Just checking- she was a committed Pro called Jazzy on the Mirror Forum. Very supportive of the McCanns and involved in removing antis and fence sitters from the forums she modded. Ally of Rhodes and other early Pros.

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  AnnaEsse on Thu 19 Jan - 13:23

The End Is Nigh wrote:Sorry to interrupt, but can the Thread please revert to its Topic, rather than being a platform for one Member who cannot debate nicely?

I'll lock it if it looks like it's run its course, which at the moment seems likely. I'll give it a few more minutes.

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  jodel on Thu 19 Jan - 13:24

The End Is Nigh wrote:Sorry to interrupt, but can the Thread please revert to its Topic, rather than being a platform for one Member who cannot debate nicely?

I am quite happy to stay on subject, but all I did was post 'there's rude' and suddenly everyone was piling on to criticise my English usage.

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  AnnaEsse on Thu 19 Jan - 13:25

Thread locked. It's a dead thread. It's Kaput!

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Re: What is a pro or an anti?

Post  Claudia79 on Thu 19 Jan - 15:05

Boy, Jodel is boring!
Ooops, sorry, off topic!

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