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Post  Panda on Sat 21 Jan - 22:37

Dozens Killed by a Radical Islamist Group in Nigeria

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Red Cross officials loaded bodies into a truck in Kano, Nigeria on Saturday. Officials said the attacks by an Islamic sect killed at least 143 people.

By MUSIKILU MOJEED

Published: January 21, 2012






ABUJA, Nigeria — More than 100 people have been killed in a series of attacks in northern Nigeria’s largest city, officials said Saturday, in what appears to be the deadliest strike yet by a radical Islamist group.





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A police station was among the sites attacked Friday.


The attackers in Kano on Friday evening struck eight government security buildings, the national police said, including the regional police headquarters, two local police stations, the local headquarters of the State Security Service, the home of a police official and the state police command headquarters.
The radical sect Boko Haram, which has carried out an escalating campaign of violence in its battle to impose its version of Islamic law across Nigeria, claimed responsibility. A letter distributed to reporters on Saturday said the attacks in Kano, Nigeria’s second-largest city, were retribution for the arrests and killings of members of the sect.
Residents in Kano described bloody scenes of chaos and confusion as bombs exploded and gunmen started shooting in the street.
“As we were running to go and hide, another one burst again,” said Hassan Sheriff, who works at a Kano radio station, describing a bomb that went off nearby. “The police started shooting people. We were running around. The police fired at the crowd. We ran away, we can’t stay there. Then another one burst. We heard more than 30 bomb blasts. I saw a dead body there. One police, dead.”
The full extent of the violence was still emerging on Saturday, with varying reports of the number killed. The Associated Press, citing an official at Murtala Muhammed Specialist Hospital in Kano, said at least 143 people had been killed. An official at the city’s main morgue told Agence France-Presse that it had collected 162 bodies and that others were continuing to arrive.
An official of the federal emergency agency, Musa Ilannah, said the search and rescue work was suspended on Saturday evening. He declined to offer a casualty figure.
“We were just picking the corpses and dropping them off in the hospitals,” he said. “We were not counting because that was not our duty. That is for the police to do.”
A Nigerian Red Cross spokesman, Nwapa O. Nwapa, said his team had taken 50 wounded people to hospitals.
President Goodluck Jonathan, who has been criticized for failing to act against Boko Haram, which has killed hundreds of Nigerians in the past year, said in a statement that he was “greatly saddened” by the attacks and that he promised that “all those involved in that dastardly act would be made to face the full wrath of the law.”
The statement said seven people had been confirmed dead in the attacks.
In Kano, where state authorities declared a 24-hour curfew, shellshocked residents stayed in their homes.
“People were visibly shocked, visibly shaken,” Abdalla Uba Adamu, a professor at Bayero University, Kano, who heard the explosions on Friday. “It’s the idea that this is something that happens to others. It’s that sense of vulnerability that is shocking.”
He said that last fall, Boko Haram sent warnings to newspapers directed at Kano’s residents, demanding that its members be released from jail and threatening to “invade” the city.
“Nobody took it seriously because this is not their theater of war,” Professor Adamu said. “They don’t have a reason. Actually, they seemed to have shown some kind of respect for Kano.”
Kano, a city of more than nine million people, is a major political and religious center in the predominantly Muslim north. About half of Nigeria’s 160 million people are Muslim.
Boko Haram, whose name means “Western education is forbidden” in the local Hausa language, has focused its attacks mainly on government and police sites in the north, and has also threatened to kill any Christians living there. The group carried out a series of attacks on churches last Christmas. Last summer, the sect appeared to broaden its focus when it attacked the national police headquarters in the capital, Abuja, and the United Nations building there, killing at least 23 people.
Professor Adamu, a Hausa studies expert, said Kano residents were worried that the attacks were likely to continue.
“Unless somebody goes in to negotiate,” he said, “we are in for a long siege.”
Adam Nossiter contributed reporting from Bamako, Mali.



A version of this article appeared in print on January 22, 2012, on page A11 of the New York edition with the headline: Dozens Killed by Radical Islamic Group in Nigeria.

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Re: Nigeria ...latest Country to get caught up in Islamic war.

Post  Panda on Sat 21 Jan - 22:44

On my recent flight to the U.S. I got into conversation with the guy sitting next to me,a Nigerian , who foretold this. He had a Business dealing in Freight which was
quite lucrative but said the President, a Christian, had wasted so much money from Oil production that the poor people were turning to Islam . The latest
count is 150 dead.

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Post  Badboy on Sat 21 Jan - 22:46

ACTION NEEDED TO SORT OUT THESE TERRORISTS ONCE AND FOR ALL.

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Post  Panda on Sat 21 Jan - 22:57

Badboy wrote:ACTION NEEDED TO SORT OUT THESE TERRORISTS ONCE AND FOR ALL.

Hi Badboy,

Easy to say but too hard to contain. The Western World family has 2 to 3 children but the Islamic family 5 to 6 so after 2 generations the Islamic
religion will rule the World.

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Post  Badboy on Sat 21 Jan - 23:53

IT IS BEING SAID MOST VICTIMS ARE MUSLIMS.

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Post  Panda on Sun 22 Jan - 21:38

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KANO, Nigeria (AP) -- People in this north Nigeria city once
wore surgical masks to block the dust swirling through its sprawling
neighborhoods, but swarming children hawked the masks for pennies apiece
Sunday to block the stench of death at a hospital overflowing with the
dead following a coordinated attack by a radical Islamist sect.
The
Nigerian Red Cross now estimates more than 150 people died in Friday's
attack in Kano, which saw at least two suicide bombers from the sect
known as Boko Haram detonate explosive-laden cars. The scope of the
attack, apparently planned to free sect members held by authorities
here, left even President Goodluck Jonathan speechless as he toured what
remained of a regional police headquarters Sunday.
"The
federal government will not rest until we arrest the perpetrators of
this act," Jonathan said earlier. "They are not spirits, they are not
ghosts."
However, unrest continued across
Nigeria as unknown assailants in the northern state of Bauchi killed at
least 11 people overnight Saturday in attacks that saw at least two
churches bombed, a sign how far insecurity has penetrated Africa's most
populous nation.
Friday's attacks by Boko
Haram hit police stations, immigration offices and the local
headquarters of Nigeria's secret police in Kano, a city of more than 9
million people that remains an important political and religious center
in the country's Muslim north. The assault left corpses lying in the
streets across the city, many wearing police or other security agency
uniforms.
On Sunday, soldiers wearing bulky
bulletproof vests stood guard at intersections and roundabouts, with
bayoneted Kalashnikov rifles at the ready. Some made those disobeying
traffic directions do sit-ups or in one case, repeatedly raise a bicycle
over their head.
Signs of the carnage still
remained. Police officers wearing surgical masks escorted a corpse
wrapped in a white burial shroud out of Murtala Muhammed Specialist
Hospital, the city's biggest. Hospital officials there declined to
comment Sunday, but the smell of the overflowing mortuary hung in the
air.
An internal Red Cross report seen Sunday
by an Associated Press reporter said that hospital alone has accepted
more than 150 dead bodies from the attacks. That death toll could rise
further as officials continue to collect bodies.
At
least four foreigners were wounded in the attack, the report showed.
Among the dead was Indian citizen Kevalkumar Rajput, 23, the Press Trust
of India news agency reported.
Jonathan
arrived to the city late Sunday afternoon, traveling quickly by a
motorcade to meet with the state governor and the Emir of Kano, an
important Islamic figure in the country. His motorcade later rushed to
what used to be the regional command headquarters for the Nigeria
police, with an armed personnel carrier trailing behind, a soldier
manning the heavy machine gun atop it.
The
Christian president, wearing a Muslim prayer cap and a black kaftan,
looked stunned as he stood near where the suicide car bomber detonated
his explosives. Officers there said guards on duty shot the tires of the
speeding car, forcing it to stop before it reached the lobby of the
headquarters.
However, it didn't matter in the
end as the powerful explosives in the car shredded the cement building,
tore away its roof and blew out its windows. Blood stained the yellow
paint near a second-story window, just underneath a 10-foot-tall tree
uprooted and tossed atop the building by the blast.
"Whether
you are a policeman or not a policeman, when you see this kind of
thing, definitely you'll be worried," said Aminu Ringim, a senior police
officer. "You'll be touched."
U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon also condemned the multiple attacks Sunday.
"The
secretary-general is appalled at the frequency and intensity of recent
attacks in Nigeria, which demonstrate a wanton and unacceptable
disregard for human life," a statement from his office read. He also
expressed "his hope for swift and transparent investigations into these
incidents that lead to bringing the perpetrators to justice."
A
Boko Haram spokesman using the nom de guerre Abul-Qaqa claimed
responsibility for the attacks in a message to journalists Friday. He
said the attack came because the state government refused to release
Boko Haram members held by the police.
The
coordinated attack in Kano represents Boko Haram's deadliest assault
since beginning a campaign of terror last year that saw a suicide bomber
strike the United Nations headquarters in Abuja and at least 510 people
killed by the sect, according to an AP count. So far this year, the
group has been blamed for 226 killings, according to an AP count.
Nigeria's
weak central government repeatedly has been unable to stop attacks by
Boko Haram, whose name means "Western education is sacrilege" in the
Hausa language of Nigeria's north. The group has carried out
increasingly sophisticated and bloody attacks in its campaign to
implement strict Shariah law and avenge the deaths of Muslims in
communal violence across Nigeria, a multiethnic nation of more than 160
million people split largely into a Christian south and Muslim north.
While
the sect has begun targeting Christian living in the north, the
majority of those killed Friday appeared to be Muslim, officials have
said.
Violence continued Sunday in Nigeria's
north. In Bauchi state, local police commissioner Ikechukwu Aduba said
at least 11 people were killed in assaults there that also saw two
churches attacked.
It was unclear what started
the violence, though communal violence remains occurs between the
area's different ethnic groups. Bauchi, about 200 miles (320 kilometers)
from Kano, is also a region where Boko Haram has staged attacks before.
---
Shehu Saulawa in Bauchi, Nigeria; Salisu Rabiu in Kano, Nigeria and Carley Petesch in Johannesburg contributed to this report.
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Re: Nigeria ...latest Country to get caught up in Islamic war.

Post  Path on Mon 23 Jan - 13:05

My objections to the title.

What's happening has nothing to do with islam.

Like Christianity, Islam permits fighting in self-defense, in defense of religion, or on the part of those who have been expelled forcibly from their homes. It lays down strict rules of combat which include prohibitions against harming civilians and against destroying crops, trees and livestock. As Muslims see it, injustice would be triumphant in the world if good men were not prepared to risk their lives in a righteous cause. The Quran says:

Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits. God does not love transgressors. (2:190)

If they seek peace, then seek you peace. And trust in God for He is the One that heareth and knoweth all things. (8:61)

War, therefore, is the last resort, and is subject to the rigorous conditions laid down by the sacred law. The term jihad literally means 'struggle', and Muslims believe that there are two kinds of jihad. The other 'jihad' is the inner struggle which everyone wages against egotistic desires, for the sake of attaining inner peace.

islam101.com/terror/quranWPJ.htm

Read chapter 3 and 4 of this book:
witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/M_hri/index.htm

islamicawakening.com/viewarticle.php?articleID=214

aboutjihad.com/

So, the problem of this organizations is their ignorance because its members didn't study in islamic univerrsities like Azhar and Madinah.




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Post  Panda on Mon 23 Jan - 14:28

Path wrote:My objections to the title.

What's happening has nothing to do with islam.

Like Christianity, Islam permits fighting in self-defense, in defense of religion, or on the part of those who have been expelled forcibly from their homes. It lays down strict rules of combat which include prohibitions against harming civilians and against destroying crops, trees and livestock. As Muslims see it, injustice would be triumphant in the world if good men were not prepared to risk their lives in a righteous cause. The Quran says:

Fight in the cause of God against those who fight you, but do not transgress limits. God does not love transgressors. (2:190)

If they seek peace, then seek you peace. And trust in God for He is the One that heareth and knoweth all things. (8:61)

War, therefore, is the last resort, and is subject to the rigorous conditions laid down by the sacred law. The term jihad literally means 'struggle', and Muslims believe that there are two kinds of jihad. The other 'jihad' is the inner struggle which everyone wages against egotistic desires, for the sake of attaining inner peace.

islam101.com/terror/quranWPJ.htm

Read chapter 3 and 4 of this book:
witness-pioneer.org/vil/Books/M_hri/index.htm

islamicawakening.com/viewarticle.php?articleID=214

aboutjihad.com/

So, the problem of this organizations is their ignorance because its members didn't study in islamic univerrsities like Azhar and Madinah.




Sorry path I"m quoting from the report and the President is a Christian which doesn"t help.

"following a coordinated attack by a radical Islamist sect."

Every Religion has it"s flaws and extremists and the Middle East is a cauldron of dissent now.

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Re: Nigeria ...latest Country to get caught up in Islamic war.

Post  Path on Mon 23 Jan - 21:27

May be it's the link who use the word islamist instead of criminal/terrorist/deviant. I should register my objection to its writer too. I claim even radical muslim would never do this and i quote from Human Rights in Islam
by 'Allamah Abu al-'A'la Mawdudi - if we assumed- they are fighting for religion not to mutilate it:

The Rights of the Non-Combatants:

Islam has first drawn a clear line of distinction between the combatants and the non-combatants of the enemy country. As far as the non-combatant population is concerned such as women, children, the old and the infirm, etc., the instructions of the Prophet are as follows: "Do not kill any old person, any child or any woman" (Abu Dawud). "Do not kill the monks in monasteries" or "Do not kill the people who are sitting in places of worship" (Musnad of Ibn Hanbal).

During a war, the Prophet saw the corpse of a woman lying on the ground and observed: "She was not fighting. How then she came to be killed?" From this statement of the Prophet the exegetists and jurists have drawn the principle that those who are non-combatants should not be killed during or after the war.


The Rights of the Combatants:

Now let us see what rights Islam has conferred on the combatants.


1. Torture with Fire

In the hadith there is a saying of the Prophet that: "Punishment by fire does not behove anyone except the Master of the Fire" (Abu Dawud). The injunction deduced from this saying is that the adversary should not be burnt alive.


2. Protection of the Wounded

"Do not attack a wounded person"-thus said the Prophet. This means that the wounded soldiers who are not fit to fight, nor actually fighting, should not be attacked.


3. The Prisoner of War Should not be Slain

"No prisoner should be put to the sword"-a very clear and unequivocal instruction given by the Prophet (S).


4. No one Should be Tied to be Killed

"The Prophet has prohibited the killing of anyone who is tied or is in captivity."


5. No Looting and Destruction in the Enemy's Country

Muslims have also been instructed by the Prophet that if they should enter the enemy's territory, they should not indulge in pillage or plunder nor destroy the residential areas, nor touch the property of anyone except those who are fighting with them. It has been narrated in the hadith: "The Prophet has prohibited the believers from loot and plunder" (al-Bukhari; Abu Dawud). His injunction is: "The loot is no more lawful than the carrion" (Abu Dawud). Abu Bakr al-Siddiq used to instruct the soldiers while sending them to war, "Do not destroy the villages and towns, do not spoil the cultivated fields and gardens, and do not slaughter the cattle." The booty of war which is acquired from the battleground is altogether different from this. It consists of the wealth, provisions and equipment captured only from the camps and military headquarters of the combatant armies.


6. Sanctity of Property

The Muslims have also been prohibited from taking anything from the general public of a conquered country without paying for it. If in a war the Muslim army occupies an area of the enemy country, and is encamped there, it does not have the right to use the things belonging to the people without their consent. If they need anything, they should purchase it from the local population or should obtain permission from the owners. Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, while instructing the Muslim armies being despatched to the battlefront would go to the extent of saying that Muslim soldiers should not even use the milk of the milch cattle without the permission of their owners.


7. Sanctity of a Dead Body

Islam has categorically prohibited its followers from disgracing or mutilating the corpses of their enemies as was practised in Arabia before the advent of Islam. It has been said in the hadith: "The Prophet has prohibited us from mutilating the corpses of the enemies" (al- Bukhari; Abu Dawud). The occasion on which this order was given is highly instructive. In the Battle of Uhud the disbelievers mutilated the bodies of the Muslims, who had fallen on the battlefield and sacrificed their lives for the sake of Islam, by cutting off their ears and noses, and threading them together to put round their necks as trophies of war. The abdomen of Hamzah, the uncle of the Prophet, was ripped open by Quraysh, his liver was taken out and chewed by Hind, the wife of Abu Sufyan, the leader of the Meccan army. The Muslims were naturally enraged by this horrible sight. But the Prophet asked his followers not to mete out similar treatment to the dead bodies of the enemies. This great example of forbearance and restraint is sufficient to convince any reasonable man who is not blinded by prejudice or bias, that Islam is really the religion sent down by the Creator of the universe, and that if human emotions had any admission in Islam, then this horrible sight on the battlefield of Uhud would have provoked the Prophet to order his followers to mutilate the bodies of their enemy in the same manner.


Do u think those people in Nigeria know anything about that ? Definetely no.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 23 Jan - 22:33

Path wrote:May be it's the link who use the word islamist instead of criminal/terrorist/deviant. I should register my objection to its writer too. I claim even radical muslim would never do this and i quote from Human Rights in Islam
by 'Allamah Abu al-'A'la Mawdudi - if we assumed- they are fighting for religion not to mutilate it:

The Rights of the Non-Combatants:

Islam has first drawn a clear line of distinction between the combatants and the non-combatants of the enemy country. As far as the non-combatant population is concerned such as women, children, the old and the infirm, etc., the instructions of the Prophet are as follows: "Do not kill any old person, any child or any woman" (Abu Dawud). "Do not kill the monks in monasteries" or "Do not kill the people who are sitting in places of worship" (Musnad of Ibn Hanbal).

During a war, the Prophet saw the corpse of a woman lying on the ground and observed: "She was not fighting. How then she came to be killed?" From this statement of the Prophet the exegetists and jurists have drawn the principle that those who are non-combatants should not be killed during or after the war.


The Rights of the Combatants:

Now let us see what rights Islam has conferred on the combatants.


1. Torture with Fire

In the hadith there is a saying of the Prophet that: "Punishment by fire does not behove anyone except the Master of the Fire" (Abu Dawud). The injunction deduced from this saying is that the adversary should not be burnt alive.


2. Protection of the Wounded

"Do not attack a wounded person"-thus said the Prophet. This means that the wounded soldiers who are not fit to fight, nor actually fighting, should not be attacked.


3. The Prisoner of War Should not be Slain

"No prisoner should be put to the sword"-a very clear and unequivocal instruction given by the Prophet (S).


4. No one Should be Tied to be Killed

"The Prophet has prohibited the killing of anyone who is tied or is in captivity."


5. No Looting and Destruction in the Enemy's Country

Muslims have also been instructed by the Prophet that if they should enter the enemy's territory, they should not indulge in pillage or plunder nor destroy the residential areas, nor touch the property of anyone except those who are fighting with them. It has been narrated in the hadith: "The Prophet has prohibited the believers from loot and plunder" (al-Bukhari; Abu Dawud). His injunction is: "The loot is no more lawful than the carrion" (Abu Dawud). Abu Bakr al-Siddiq used to instruct the soldiers while sending them to war, "Do not destroy the villages and towns, do not spoil the cultivated fields and gardens, and do not slaughter the cattle." The booty of war which is acquired from the battleground is altogether different from this. It consists of the wealth, provisions and equipment captured only from the camps and military headquarters of the combatant armies.


6. Sanctity of Property

The Muslims have also been prohibited from taking anything from the general public of a conquered country without paying for it. If in a war the Muslim army occupies an area of the enemy country, and is encamped there, it does not have the right to use the things belonging to the people without their consent. If they need anything, they should purchase it from the local population or should obtain permission from the owners. Abu Bakr al-Siddiq, while instructing the Muslim armies being despatched to the battlefront would go to the extent of saying that Muslim soldiers should not even use the milk of the milch cattle without the permission of their owners.


7. Sanctity of a Dead Body

Islam has categorically prohibited its followers from disgracing or mutilating the corpses of their enemies as was practised in Arabia before the advent of Islam. It has been said in the hadith: "The Prophet has prohibited us from mutilating the corpses of the enemies" (al- Bukhari; Abu Dawud). The occasion on which this order was given is highly instructive. In the Battle of Uhud the disbelievers mutilated the bodies of the Muslims, who had fallen on the battlefield and sacrificed their lives for the sake of Islam, by cutting off their ears and noses, and threading them together to put round their necks as trophies of war. The abdomen of Hamzah, the uncle of the Prophet, was ripped open by Quraysh, his liver was taken out and chewed by Hind, the wife of Abu Sufyan, the leader of the Meccan army. The Muslims were naturally enraged by this horrible sight. But the Prophet asked his followers not to mete out similar treatment to the dead bodies of the enemies. This great example of forbearance and restraint is sufficient to convince any reasonable man who is not blinded by prejudice or bias, that Islam is really the religion sent down by the Creator of the universe, and that if human emotions had any admission in Islam, then this horrible sight on the battlefield of Uhud would have provoked the Prophet to order his followers to mutilate the bodies of their enemy in the same manner.


Do u think those people in Nigeria know anything about that ? Definetely no.

So, what do you think of the parts of the Qur'An that tell Muslims to kill enemies wherever they find them, and names the enemies as Christians and Jews? And what about people who come from Friday prayers and set fire to churches?

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Panda has done 23 posts today....top off the list AGAIN!

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 23 Jan - 22:40

kitti wrote:Panda has done 23 posts today....top off the list AGAIN!

Oh no! I'm jealous!

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Dong worry, your second in the top 20 posters...

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 23 Jan - 23:10

kitti wrote:Dong worry, your second in the top 20 posters...

Oh good! That's better! to me!

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Re: Nigeria ...latest Country to get caught up in Islamic war.

Post  Path on Mon 23 Jan - 23:27

AnnaEsse wrote:
So, what do you think of the parts of the Qur'An that tell Muslims to kill enemies wherever they find them, and names the enemies as Christians and Jews? And what about people who come from Friday prayers and set fire to churches?

Nowhere i find this in quran, however they are found on anti-islamic sites that's why i don't use google to search for islam

An ayah commonly quoted by anti-islamists and its exegesis from about Jihad.com:
And slay them wherever ye catch them.." [Noble Quran 2:191]

A classic and popular example of what Muslim scholars, like Dr. Jamal Badawi, call a 'cut and paste' approach. Everything becomes so much easier for the Anti-Islamists when they remove the context. The solution for the Muslim is to simply replace the verse in its context:
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear (the punishment of) God, and know that God is with those who restrain themselves." [Noble Quran 2:190-194]

How many times do we see the above verse repeating the message to make it clear? These verses were revealed at a time when Muslims of Madinah were under constant attack from the Makkans. An example would be when the Makkans conducted the public crucifixion of the companion of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), Khubaib bin Adi. These would be classified as 'terrorist activities' according to the modern usage of the term. So what does this verse say in this context? "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you", "unless they (first) fight you there" - the context of this verse applies to those who initiate the attack against Muslims. And even after they attack, the verse makes it clear:
"But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." [Noble Quran 2:192]

And it also makes clear the purpose for what Muslims fight:
"Fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God". [Noble Quran 2:193]
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so, as i said, neither anti-islamists nor terrorists know anything about islam. Just ignorant people work to spread hate.

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So where are all the "moderate" Muslims? Why do NONE of them speak out against the radicals?

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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 24 Jan - 7:45

Path wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
So, what do you think of the parts of the Qur'An that tell Muslims to kill enemies wherever they find them, and names the enemies as Christians and Jews? And what about people who come from Friday prayers and set fire to churches?

Nowhere i find this in quran, however they are found on anti-islamic sites that's why i don't use google to search for islam

An ayah commonly quoted by anti-islamists and its exegesis from about Jihad.com:
And slay them wherever ye catch them.." [Noble Quran 2]

A classic and popular example of what Muslim scholars, like Dr. Jamal Badawi, call a 'cut and paste' approach. Everything becomes so much easier for the Anti-Islamists when they remove the context. The solution for the Muslim is to simply replace the verse in its context:
"Fight in the cause of God those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for God loves not transgressors. And kill them wherever ye catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out; for persecution and oppression are worse than slaughter; but fight them not at the Sacred Mosque, unless they (first) fight you there; but if they fight you, kill them. Such is the reward of those who reject faith. But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful. And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God; but if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression. The prohibited month, for the prohibited month, and so for all things prohibited, there is the law of equality. If then any one transgresses the prohibition against you, transgress ye likewise against him. But fear (the punishment of) God, and know that God is with those who restrain themselves." [Noble Quran 2-194]

How many times do we see the above verse repeating the message to make it clear? These verses were revealed at a time when Muslims of Madinah were under constant attack from the Makkans. An example would be when the Makkans conducted the public crucifixion of the companion of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon him), Khubaib bin Adi. These would be classified as 'terrorist activities' according to the modern usage of the term. So what does this verse say in this context? "Fight in the cause of God those who fight you", "unless they (first) fight you there" - the context of this verse applies to those who initiate the attack against Muslims. And even after they attack, the verse makes it clear:
"But if they cease, God is Oft-Forgiving, Most Merciful." [Noble Quran 2]

And it also makes clear the purpose for what Muslims fight:
"Fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God". [Noble Quran 2]
]

so, as i said, neither anti-islamists nor terrorists know anything about islam. Just ignorant people work to spread hate.

That's OK then! Those who behead kidnapped people like journalists, strap bombs to themselves and blow themselves and others up in market places, torch buildings because of a few cartoons, while shouting Allahu Akbar don't know anything about islam. Right!




ETA: Amazing that you can't find those verses in the Qur'An because I have found them and they can be found quite easily on the web. I have read the Qur'An.

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Post  Panda on Tue 24 Jan - 14:26

Nigerians arrest Islamist militant suspects, sources say



By Nima Elbagir, CNN
January 24, 2012 -- Updated 1423 GMT (2223 HKT)






A paramedic helps a man who was injured during one of the attacks in the Nigerian city of Kano


STORY HIGHLIGHTS


  • NEW: A military task force arrests 158 suspected Boko Haram members, sources say
  • Police seize hundreds of explosives hidden in soft drink cans, they say
  • At least 211 people died in bombing and gun attacks last week, locals say
  • The Islamist group Boko Haram says it carried out the attacks, a newspaper says





Lagos, Nigeria (CNN) -- A joint military task force
in Nigeria arrested 158 suspected members of the Islamist militant group
Boko Haram, security sources told CNN Tuesday, three days after a spate
of bombings and shootings left more than 200 people dead in Nigeria's
second-largest city.

Some suspects resisted arrest and exchanged gunfire with the task
force in the city of Kano, said security sources who asked not to be
named because they are not authorized to speak to the media.

No casualties have been reported so far, they said.

The arrests come as community leaders said the number of dead from the Kano bombing and gun attacks has risen to at least 211.

Government officials declined to confirm the number of victims. They previously put the death toll at 157.

President Goodluck Jonathan toured the city Sunday after the attacks
there left the police headquarters and other government buildings in
charred ruins Friday night.

"The message I had for the people of Kano is the same message I have
for all Nigerians: A terrorist attack on one person is an attack on all
of us," Jonathan said in a post on his official Facebook page after the
visit.

Islamist group Boko Haram -- whose name means "western education is
sacrilege" -- claimed responsibility for the blast in a phone call to
the Daily Trust, according to journalists at the newspaper.




Death toll climbs after Nigeria attacks





Have militants found Nigeria's flaw?





Atmosphere tense after Kano attacks


The group has been blamed for months of widespread bloodshed, with churches and police stations among the targets.

Community leaders have been keeping their own count of the number of
dead from Friday's attacks, they told CNN Tuesday, including victims who
never made it to hospitals. They declined to be quoted by name for
security reasons.

Police in the city announced Tuesday that they had seized 10 cars
laden with explosives and about 300 improvised explosive devices hidden
in soft drink cans and bottles at a number of locations in Kano.

The state police commissioner said a mass search turned up the
explosives after police found undetonated devices at a police barracks
in Kano.

The bombings hit eight government sites Friday.

Shell-shocked residents wandered the streets, looking for loved ones.
Others hid behind barricaded doors, too scared to leave for fear of
more attacks.

"That's the scary part, not knowing," said Faruk Mohammed, 27, who
lives near one of the bombed police stations. "We don't know what's
going to happen next. No one thought this would ever happen here.
There's a general sense of despair."

The attacks paired bomb blasts with shootings on various sites
including police stations, the passport office, state security
headquarters and the immigration office.

During the attack, assailants entered a police station, freed detainees and bombed it, authorities said.

They later canvassed the area in a car led by motorcycles, spraying targets with gunfire.

"I counted at least 25 explosions ...," Mohammed said. "Then it went
deathly quiet. Kano is a bustling city ... I've lived here for years and
it has never been quiet, even at night. But after the bombings stopped,
the only noise you could hear were dogs barking."

On Sunday, two churches and a security checkpoint were attacked in
the neighboring state of Bauchi, the state police commissioner said in a
statement. At least 11 people, including police and army personnel,
were killed in the checkpoint attack, the commissioner said. There were
no casualties reported from the church attacks.

Police said they suspect Boko Haram was involved in the checkpoint attack.

In December, Jonathan declared a state of emergency in four northern
states after a series of Christmas Day attacks on churches blamed on
Boko Haram.

The man suspected of masterminding those attacks was briefly captured
before escaping police custody while being transferred to another
prison.

Depending on the faction, Boko Haram's ambitions range from the
stricter enforcement of their interpretation of Islamic Sharia law to
the total destruction of the government.

Its grievances remain local, but it has attacked international institutions --- such as the United Nations -- on Nigerian soil.

An August 26 attack -- during which a Boko Haram suicide bomber drove
a Jeep laden with explosives into the U.N. headquarters in Abuja -- was
one of the deadliest in the world body's history. Twenty-four people
were killed, including 12 U.N. staff.

The group was formed in 2002 by Islamic preacher Mohammad Yusuf as an outgrowth of ethnic tensions in the country in the 1990s.

Nigeria's population is split between mostly Muslims living in the
north and predominantly Christians in the south. Yusuf advocated the
institution of Sharia law throughout the northern states and opposed
democracy.

The group operated openly out of northeastern Nigeria and staged small-scale attacks against government targets.

In 2009, Nigerian police forces moved to crack down on Boko Haram.
Harsh police tactics led to an armed uprising and the arrest of Yusuf,
who later died in police custody.

The death spurred the group to begin its attacks on police stations.
Ensuing clashes between group members and the police killed hundreds.

The following year, Boko Haram re-emerged as a more radicalized,
insurgent style group, staging assassinations and attacks against not
only government targets, but also churches and even a beer garden.

"We're dealing with a movement of inchoate rage," said John Campbell, a U.S. ambassador to Nigeria who left his post in 2007.

"It's highly decentralized, but what it has in common is a strongly
Islamic character, and hatred for the secular, political economy of
Nigeria, particularly the federal and state governments," he said.


CNN's Faith Karimi and journalist Hassan John contributed to this story.

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Post  Panda on Sun 29 Jan - 10:14

28 January 2012
Last updated at 23:02











Nigeria army kills 11 Boko Haram Islamists













Continue reading the main story













Nigeria under attack








  • Will dialogue end the insurgency?

  • Will attacks divide Nigeria?

  • What Kano attacks mean

  • Who are Boko Haram?











The
Nigerian military has shot dead 11 members of Islamist militant group
Boko Haram in the north-eastern city of Maiduguri, a spokesman said.

They died during a shootout in the capital of Borno state, he said.

But Boko Haram said its members had been picked from their homes by the army's joint task force and killed.

Last week, at least 185 people were killed in a series of
bomb attacks in Kano, another northern city. Boko Haram said it carried
them out.

Most of the victims were civilians.

The group - whose name means "Western education is forbidden"
- has warned that it will continue its insurgency until Sharia law is
observed throughout Nigeria.

Dialogue 'impossible'
If claims that the 11 Boko Haram members were picked up from
their homes are true, it would represent a strong-arm tactics by the
army, the BBC's Mark Lobel in Kano reports.

This could possibly inflame the situation further - similar
to the violence in 2009 when then Boko Haram leader Mohammed Yusuf died
in police custody, our correspondent adds.

A Boko Haram spokesman warned on Saturday that if group
members - who had been captured in the north-western Sokoto state - were
not released, Kano-style attacks would be launched there.

The spokesman also rejected Nigerian President Goodluck Jonathan's recent call for open dialogue to end the fighting.

He said the idea of talks was "impossible" while group
members were being killed and - at the same time - being asked to
surrender weapons.
























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