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HOW DID THESE TWO CHILDREN SIMPLY VANISH ONE DAY?

Post  Annabel on Sun 22 Jan - 7:07

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HOW DID THESE TWO CHILDREN SIMPLY VANISH ONE DAY?



Sunday January 22,2012
By William Bond

AN INVESTIGATING judge in southern Spain will this week lift a secrecy order on the disappearance of two young children that has gripped the nation for more than three months.

It could cast fresh light on what happened to Ruth Breton, six, and her two-year-old brother Jose but could just as easily only fuel the mystery.

The children were reported missing by their father on October 8, 2011.

He approached a security guard in a popular public park in the city of Cordoba, telling him his children had simply disappeared when he was distracted and had taken his eyes off them for no more than a minute or two.

Jose Breton and his wife Ruth had just separated. He had weekend custody and had taken them to the park that Sunday.

Police launched a frantic search but the two children were nowhere to be found and no one had seen them. Even the park’s numerous security cameras had captured images only of the father, none of Ruth and Jose.

Police immediately noticed that Jose senior seemed to show no emotion. In a flat voice, he repeated his story several times, never changing a detail.

Yet there wasn’t a flicker of fear over what might have happened to his beautiful children. It was reported that he had shown no guilt either for having taken his eyes off them, nor anger that they may have been snatched by strangers to meet who knows what fate.

Detectives leaned heavily on him but he just kept repeating his story, virtually word for word. The children were playing, he took his eyes off them briefly and they were gone. Officers were convinced he was involved in the disappearance. A few days later detectives and uniformed police swooped on the country property just outside the city owned by his parents and little Jose’s paternal grandparents at Las Quemadillas.

They were accompanied by sniffer dogs and spent hours turning the place inside-out. They found nothing. In the next eight days they repeated the operation twice more. But there were still no clues. Although Jose stuck to his story he was arrested and questioned as a suspect. After 72 hours – the maximum a suspect can be held in Spain – he was handed to an investigating judge, Jose Luis Rodriguez.

After a closed-door session, Breton was ordered to prison on suspicion of illegal detention, kidnapping and simulating a crime. A secrecy order meant that whatever evidence there was could not be disclosed.

Last week, state prosecutor Jose Antonio Martin-Caro said that when the secrecy order is lifted on Wednesday there will be evidence to back-up why Breton is being held. He admitted, however, that what actually happened to the children remains a mystery. The police are convinced that the father did not take them to the park and knows what happened to them, but they have yet to get him to admit it.

The pressure has not let up on the paternal grandparents. The estate where they live has been searched at least half a dozen more times. Drains have been scoured, false roofs torn down and walls opened up. Last Wednesday a team of National Police divers dragged the River Guadalquivir where it passes through Cordoba and near to the grandparents’ property for a second time since the drama began.

The weekly Madrid news magazine Interviu reported that the father had let one ominous expression slip when a detective asked yet again: “Where are the kids, Jose?” “That,” he is reported to have said, “is my secret.”

"And to those who don’t know him, I will assure them that he didn’t"
Ruth Breton

Equally convinced that Jose senior is responsible for the children’s disappearance is their mother, Ruth. She broke her silence for the first time this month as the 100th day of their disappearance approached.

She told a rally near the Portuguese border: “Everyone who knows Jose Breton knows that he did not lose his children. And to those who don’t know him, I will assure them that he didn’t.”

The case bears a passing resemblance to the disappearance of British child Madeleine McCann on a family holiday in Portugal almost five years ago, in the sense that the mystery has a nation in thrall. Just as Kate McCann has clung to the belief that her daughter is still alive, so Ruth Ortiz is convinced her children are not dead. Also like Kate, she is determined to keep the spotlight on the case and not to give up until the mystery is solved.

Earlier this month she crossed the border into Portugal to put-up scores of posters with pictures of Ruth and Jose.

In Cordoba, a city visited by thousands of tourists every week, posters are being prepared in several languages, including English.

British expats are said to have offered to send posters to the UK as Interpol alerts police across Europe.

It has to be emphasised that there is nothing to connect the Spanish children’s disappearance with that of Madeleine.


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Post  T4two on Sun 22 Jan - 9:19

This is a domestic quarrel right? The only resemblance it has to the McCann case is that it is an alleged abduction of children and to date it remains unsolved. I question whether every case of alleged abduction involving children which remains unsolved automatically bears sufficient resemblance to the McCann case to draw a parallel? What possible similarities are their between Ruth Breton and Kate McCann? What purpose can be served by constantly using the McCann case as a kind of yardstick in every missing child case and in doing so, portraying Kate McCann as a victim desperately searching for her missing child - apart from selling newspapers that is... ?

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Post  tigger on Sun 22 Jan - 9:55

T4two wrote:This is a domestic quarrel right? The only resemblance it has to the McCann case is that it is an alleged abduction of children and to date it remains unsolved. I question whether every case of alleged abduction involving children which remains unsolved automatically bears sufficient resemblance to the McCann case to draw a parallel? What possible similarities are their between Ruth Breton and Kate McCann? What purpose can be served by constantly using the McCann case as a kind of yardstick in every missing child case and in doing so, portraying Kate McCann as a victim desperately searching for her missing child - apart from selling newspapers that is... ?

I think they're dead, that's far more likely.
It's a sort of animalistic instinct - the male doesn't tolerate another male (who could be the reason for the divorce) to be in charge of his children.
They are his property and to revenge himself on his wife he simply kills the children.
I'm making a wild guess, but I'd think it would be at least 70% +likely that this is the case.
Often the parent/killer is considerate enough to kill himself afterwards. This one appears to have survival instincts.

There is remarkably little about such cases in the British press anyway, often it seems, only so that once again they can trot out the McCs.

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Post  margaret on Sun 22 Jan - 10:33

Annabel wrote:
The case bears a passing resemblance to the disappearance of British child Madeleine McCann on a family holiday in Portugal almost five years ago, in the sense that the mystery has a nation in thrall. Just as Kate McCann has clung to the belief that her daughter is still alive, so Ruth Ortiz is convinced her children are not dead. Also like Kate, she is determined to keep the spotlight on the case and not to give up until the mystery is solved.

It has to be emphasised that there is nothing to connect the Spanish children’s disappearance with that of Madeleine.


I love it. The Express are playing with the McCanns here. It seems obvious the father is guilty of whatever happened to the children and is telling lies, then the Express cleverly draws parallels to the McCanns whilst clearly stating the two crimes aren't linked, just in case the sheeples who believe the Mcs think it's the same 'abductor'.

Well done Express.

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Post  IAMBAZZA on Sun 22 Jan - 12:09

I agree - The Express is running that story for a reason...

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Post  Panda on Sun 22 Jan - 12:15

margaret wrote:
Annabel wrote:
The case bears a passing resemblance to the disappearance of British child Madeleine McCann on a family holiday in Portugal almost five years ago, in the sense that the mystery has a nation in thrall. Just as Kate McCann has clung to the belief that her daughter is still alive, so Ruth Ortiz is convinced her children are not dead. Also like Kate, she is determined to keep the spotlight on the case and not to give up until the mystery is solved.

It has to be emphasised that there is nothing to connect the Spanish children’s disappearance with that of Madeleine.


I love it. The Express are playing with the McCanns here. It seems obvious the father is guilty of whatever happened to the children and is telling lies, then the Express cleverly draws parallels to the McCanns whilst clearly stating the two crimes aren't linked, just in case the sheeples who believe the Mcs think it's the same 'abductor'.

Well done Express.

Yes margaret , I noticed that, Desmond will want revenge for the McCanns apppearing in the Leveson enquiry after they had been generously
paid 3 years previously.

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Post  tigger on Sun 22 Jan - 12:16

IAMBAZZA wrote:I agree - The Express is running that story for a reason...

Maybe the Leveson inquiry has annoyed the press so much now, that they are going to post everything that will make the McCanns 'itchy', without running the risk of being Carterrucked.

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Re: HOW DID THESE TWO CHILDREN SIMPLY VANISH ONE DAY?

Post  mara thon on Sun 22 Jan - 12:42

This story has been in the Spanish news since it happened, the articles are on the daily news thread, strange how it has suddenly appeared in UK newspapers.

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Re: HOW DID THESE TWO CHILDREN SIMPLY VANISH ONE DAY?

Post  Oldartform on Sun 22 Jan - 13:00

tigger wrote:
T4two wrote:This is a domestic quarrel right? The only resemblance it has to the McCann case is that it is an alleged abduction of children and to date it remains unsolved. I question whether every case of alleged abduction involving children which remains unsolved automatically bears sufficient resemblance to the McCann case to draw a parallel? What possible similarities are their between Ruth Breton and Kate McCann? What purpose can be served by constantly using the McCann case as a kind of yardstick in every missing child case and in doing so, portraying Kate McCann as a victim desperately searching for her missing child - apart from selling newspapers that is... ?

I think they're dead, that's far more likely.
It's a sort of animalistic instinct - the male doesn't tolerate another male (who could be the reason for the divorce) to be in charge of his children.
They are his property and to revenge himself on his wife he simply kills the children.
I'm making a wild guess, but I'd think it would be at least 70% +likely that this is the case.
Often the parent/killer is considerate enough to kill himself afterwards. This one appears to have survival instincts.
There is remarkably little about such cases in the British press anyway, often it seems, only so that once again they can trot out the McCs.

This was discussed on Radio 4 Woman`s Hour yesterday - the awful case of Sarah Heatley`s husband (who was a GP and a supposedly `devoted husband`) who killed their two children as revenge for his wife deciding to leave him. He was a control freak and short tempered like someone else we know.

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Post  jejune on Thu 9 Feb - 22:19

http://www.euroweeklynews.com/news/costa-de-almeria/91140-father-of-missing-children-harms-himself-in-prison

Tuesday, 07 February 2012
"JOSE BRETON, the father of the two children missing from Cordoba
since October, cut his wrist and shoulder with a razor in prison.

The self-inflicted injuries were discovered by a prison guard at 7am
and although they were reportedly not serious, he was taken to the sick
wing of the prison.
However, it is not known how he obtained the razor, as he is banned
from having them, despite some of the initial restrictions of his
suicide prevention regime being lifted recently.

Breton reported Ruth, 6, and Jose, 2, missing from the Cruz de Conde Park in Cordoba on October 8, 2011.

Less than 24 hours earlier, he had picked them up from school in
Huelva, where they live with their mother since the couple had separated
just weeks earlier.

However, he was remanded to prison on October 21 for his alleged
involvement in their disappearance. He is charged with illegal detention
and faking a crime.

Several days before the disappearance he had reportedly said “something big is going to happen here”.

Police have searched for clues to the whereabouts of the two
children, mainly at properties belonging to their parental grandparents,
and have been convinced from the outset that Breton is lying, but have
no evidence against him."

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Post  interested on Fri 10 Feb - 21:05

It is interesting that the Express is publishing this story NOW. The father is charged (in part) with "faking a crime".

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