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Post  jd16 on Thu 2 Feb - 15:31

Panda wrote:

It tells me the Fund is running dry again and the 2C.7 will be used to keep the Company going and there will be no pretence of trying to search for
Madeleine.

Because it is a Private Company with no Share Capital they can do what they want and thids disgusting Government will tuirn a blind eye and continue
to bow to the McCanns demand at the expense of the tax payer and many of the unemployed who could have received training to acquire a Trade.

I totally agree. And with 2C.7, this tells me they can enter into any contract with any company which opens all doors to take this Limited company into any direction they wish, ones that have absolutely nothing to do with finding Maddie or missing children. They can have contracts with Palladium for example. They can move money about between companies to save on taxes. This despite promoting it as purely a fund to take peoples monies in the name of a search and is the stated sole objectives

You are so right Panda, why does the Fraud Squad in the U.K. refuse to check out the Fund

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Post  Panda on Thu 2 Feb - 15:50

jd16 wrote:
Panda wrote:

It tells me the Fund is running dry again and the 2C.7 will be used to keep the Company going and there will be no pretence of trying to search for
Madeleine.

Because it is a Private Company with no Share Capital they can do what they want and thids disgusting Government will tuirn a blind eye and continue
to bow to the McCanns demand at the expense of the tax payer and many of the unemployed who could have received training to acquire a Trade.

I totally agree. And with 2C.7, this tells me they can enter into any contract with any company which opens all doors to take this Limited company into any direction they wish, ones that have absolutely nothing to do with finding Maddie or missing children. They can have contracts with Palladium for example. They can move money about between companies to save on taxes. This despite promoting it as purely a fund to take peoples monies in the name of a search and is the stated sole objectives

You are so right Panda, why does the Fraud Squad in the U.K. refuse to check out the Fund

What we need is detailed information that can be proved and submit this to The Guardian, who wouldn"t be afraid to investigate. This recent change in
the M & a is a typical example because the Fund was set up to specifically search for Madeleine and help support the Family. With the hundreds of
thousands of pounds Kate has made , there is no need to support the Family any more. Kate can go and get a proper job. Edgar is a one man band who
has achieved nothing in over two years so should be sacked , Clarence Mitchell should also be sacked. Although it is a Private Company Donors have a
right to know their donations have been well spent, everyone seems to ignore this. The Daily Mail pointed out that only 13.3% of the Fund had actually
been spent on searching for Madeleiene, but the Press have been noticably silent about the Fund since.

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Post  jd16 on Thu 2 Feb - 16:14

Panda wrote:
jd16 wrote:
Panda wrote:

It tells me the Fund is running dry again and the 2C.7 will be used to keep the Company going and there will be no pretence of trying to search for
Madeleine.

Because it is a Private Company with no Share Capital they can do what they want and thids disgusting Government will tuirn a blind eye and continue
to bow to the McCanns demand at the expense of the tax payer and many of the unemployed who could have received training to acquire a Trade.

I totally agree. And with 2C.7, this tells me they can enter into any contract with any company which opens all doors to take this Limited company into any direction they wish, ones that have absolutely nothing to do with finding Maddie or missing children. They can have contracts with Palladium for example. They can move money about between companies to save on taxes. This despite promoting it as purely a fund to take peoples monies in the name of a search and is the stated sole objectives

You are so right Panda, why does the Fraud Squad in the U.K. refuse to check out the Fund

What we need is detailed information that can be proved and submit this to The Guardian, who wouldn"t be afraid to investigate. This recent change in
the M & a is a typical example because the Fund was set up to specifically search for Madeleine and help support the Family. With the hundreds of
thousands of pounds Kate has made , there is no need to support the Family any more. Kate can go and get a proper job. Edgar is a one man band who
has achieved nothing in over two years so should be sacked , Clarence Mitchell should also be sacked. Although it is a Private Company Donors have a
right to know their donations have been well spent, everyone seems to ignore this. The Daily Mail pointed out that only 13.3% of the Fund had actually
been spent on searching for Madeleiene, but the Press have been noticably silent about the Fund since.

Again I totally agree Panda. The accounts and all the amendments are in the public domain so anyone from the Guardian can investigate with the facts at any time. And yes if the company is begging to the public for money then donors have a right to know how their monies have been spent, even if this charity is cleverly disguised as a LTD company. For a so called fund whose sole objective is to find a missing child then question number one is why is only 13.3% of monies donated by the public which was begged for, been spent on the search? And show in detail where the other 86.7% of the publics donated monies have gone to? If this was any other company they would have been duly thoroughly investigated

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Thu 2 Feb - 16:39

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AnnaEsse wrote:When John McCann gave up his job to devote himself full-time to the search, how did he and his family live? Did he become an employee of the fund? A question that's been asked so many times: why give up a well paid job when Madeleine could have been found any day?

Will he be one of the following? A spell on Jobseekers allowance tends to focus the mind.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/astrazeneca-cuts-jobs-warns-lower-profits-072537631.html

He got out in time! He now works for the Bayer company.

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Post  jd16 on Thu 2 Feb - 16:51

This is yet another lie. John McCann said he left his job but he didn't did he. It doesn't matter if he went to a lesser role, he was still employed by the company and paid by them. He hadn't left his job which he tried to fool everyone into believing. Why aren't the police and media picking up on these lies

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Thu 2 Feb - 17:01

Did John McCann ever actually say he'd left his job or is it something that maybe has been taken for granted? He could have been on compassionate leave though whether paid or not I'm sure we'll never know.

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Post  jd16 on Thu 2 Feb - 17:22

mccannfundfraud.info/about/

Less than two weeks after Madeleine McCann disappeared, the family and friends of the McCann family set up a company called Madeleine’s Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited. Without properly setting clear objectives and policies from the start, the company was set to become the vehicle for the “official” find Madeleine campaign—whatever that actually meant.

It has become a typically British thing to have financial campaigns to assist people in well publicised times of need. Usually there is no specific company set up to do this. In this respect, the “Madeleine Fund” seemed far too sophisticated and if anything it appears to have been premeditated.

British banks are past masters of setting up and administering bank accounts for needy causes and tend to do so without intervention by outsiders. What made the Madeleine Fund and subsequent campaign so distasteful to many is that little of the money has been used for its stated purpose.

Madeleine’s Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited is a type of company called a “Private Company Limited by Guarantee”. A company limited by guarantee is an alternative type of incorporation used primarily for non-profit organisations that require corporate status. A guarantee company does not have a share capital, but has members who are guarantors instead of shareholders. The guarantors give an undertaking to contribute a nominal amount towards the winding up of the company in the event of a shortfall upon cessation of business. It cannot distribute its profits to its members, and is therefore eligible to apply for charitable status if necessary.

The company has several family members on its board of directors and this and many other factors have helped to fuel rumours about the integrity of the management and disbursement of the donated money.

Our sister site “TRUTH For Madeleine” tried to contact the company for an update on its performance. Bates Wells & Braithwaite referred us to the Fund and stated that they couldn’t answer our questions due to confidentiality.

John McCann spoke briefly to us on the phone until he realised we were asking about the Fund. His response was to claim we had the wrong telephone number and that he was in fact a “Mr Jones”. This was interesting as he must in the extremely rare group of Scotsmen with a Welsh name!

A lot of donors to the fund would like to have actually seen some real stones turned over by the McCanns in the search for Madeleine. Instead, there has been no publication of the company performance or regular updates as to what actions have been taken in the so-called “search for Madeleine”.

If Madeleine died in May 2007 and the family knew about this then the whole fund is a fraud!

Serious Questions That Need to be Answered

Madeleine was a ward of court when the fund was being set up. Why? Kate McCann refused to answer this most basic question along with 47 others when she was pulled in by the police prior to being given Arguida status.
Madeleine’s medical records were withheld from the investigating police force in Portugal. Why? What was there to hide?

Gerry and Kate McCann destroyed crucial mobile phone evidence on at least May 2nd and May 3rd, 2007. They did not offer any explanation why or who’s numbers they destroyed.

The McCanns said they would return to Portugal if they had to. The police wanted them to return to do a reconstruction of the night of May 3, 2007. The McCanns refused to go. This was after they told donors they would cooperate fully with the police.

15 out of 19 genetic markers of Madeleine McCann were found in the boot of the car hired by the McCanns. Cadaver and blood dogs detected the scent of death in the vehicle. The McCanns have no rational explanation for this.

During the time the McCanns were named as Arguidos, they hid behind that status as a way to refuse to talk to the media. Since that status was removed, the McCanns have not come forward to answer any damning questions about the events in April and May 2007 at the Ocean Club Resort where they stayed. Why?

After contacting the company – Madeleine’s Fund: Leaving No Stone Unturned Limited – several times in the past year, they have steadfastly fobbed us off and refused to give the any answers to questions about the fund. What have they got to hide?

After fleeing back to England from Portugal, the McCanns told everyone they would take a lie detector test. Shortly after this they recanted that offer and said they would not now take a lie detector test.

Captured on film when they didn’t know the camera was still rolling, the McCanns have found this whole situation to be a big giggle. Gerry McCann even sat sucking a lollipop and joked while the police were waiting to hear from a possible kidnapper early on in the investigation.

mccannfundfraud.info/about/

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Post  Oldartform on Thu 2 Feb - 17:30

Panda wrote:
Oldartform wrote:
Panda wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:When John McCann gave up his job to devote himself full-time to the search, how did he and his family live? Did he become an employee of the fund? A question that's been asked so many times: why give up a well paid job when Madeleine could have been found any day?
Hi AnnaEsse, I posted recently a profile of John McCanns employment with Astrazeneca and he never left until 2010 or 11. It was only recently, but don"t ask me to find it.

So one could assume that Astrazeneca just transferred John McCann to another department, that of protecting their interests ?

Hi Oldartform.

John McCann as Chairman of No Stone Unturned , in his Annual Report said 11 Meeting were held by the directors.....he lives in Scotland, do you think he
travelled down once a Month???

Hi Panda - I suppose it all depends where the meetings were held - do they always have to be held in the registered offices of NSU? Astrazenca have bases in Scotland, North East and North West and I assume JM was based in the Scottish one. He obviously travelled around as he was a rep.


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Post  T4two on Thu 2 Feb - 17:49


jd 16: You are so right Panda, why does the Fraud Squad in the U.K. refuse to check out the Fund

Do we know that for a fact or is it a logical assumption because no other information is known? Would the fraud squad actually tell anyone that they are or are not investigating? Is it possible that the pushing around of large sums of money between companies that is known to have been going on, is just the tip of an iceberg? I read today that the MG Rover auditors are under investigation 7 years after the collapse of that company which left debts of billions and more than 6500 people unemployed. I know this is something completely different but, it is an example of how long it can take before the appropriate authorities 'burst into action' as it were.

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Post  Bobsy on Thu 2 Feb - 18:15

Not Born Yesterday wrote:
Bobsy wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:When John McCann gave up his job to devote himself full-time to the search, how did he and his family live? Did he become an employee of the fund? A question that's been asked so many times: why give up a well paid job when Madeleine could have been found any day?

Will he be one of the following? A spell on Jobseekers allowance tends to focus the mind.

http://uk.news.yahoo.com/astrazeneca-cuts-jobs-warns-lower-profits-072537631.html

He got out in time! He now works for the Bayer company.
Thankyou Not Born Yesterday for your respnse.

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Re: McCann Related Libel Actions

Post  Chris on Thu 2 Feb - 18:20

jd16 wrote:They like to call it a foundation now which they have given themselves new powers, such as:

2C.6 - alone or with other organisations seek to influence public opinion and make representations to and seek to influence governmental and other bodies and institutions

2C.7 - Enter into contracts to provide services to or on behalf of other bodies


Do these sort of powers sound like a charity fund (I know its really a LTD company) whose sole purpose is to find a missing child?

Both these provisions existed in the original form of the memorandum and articles at clause 4.6 and 4.7. Apart from the exclusiion of family support the 2011 version of the artilcles was the same as the previous version although they were renumbered and reordered.

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