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Post  AnnaEsse on Sat 4 Feb - 8:05

Jahbulon wrote:Does the £2m include Child Benefit for Madeleine still claimed by Kate and Brother Gerry Mc€ann?

I wouldn't have thought they'd be receiving Child Benefit for Madeleine, but I can't find anything on Google about this benefit for missing children. However, if they had been receiving it, it would have amounted to about £4,000 over the nearly five years, which is a drop in the ocean compared to costs incurred elsewhere by the investigation.

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Post  Panda on Sat 4 Feb - 8:17

AnnaEsse wrote:
Jahbulon wrote:Does the £2m include Child Benefit for Madeleine still claimed by Kate and Brother Gerry Mc€ann?

I wouldn't have thought they'd be receiving Child Benefit for Madeleine, but I can't find anything on Google about this benefit for missing children. However, if they had been receiving it, it would have amounted to about £4,000 over the nearly five years, which is a drop in the ocean compared to costs incurred elsewhere by the investigation.

Morning AnnaEsse, I still don't understand why Madeleine is STILL a Ward of Court. Initially a QC suggested it in the event the McCanns would be charged
over Madeleine's disappearance. Then it was suggested it was to enable the McCanns to obtain information from LP. An Application by the McCanns to the
High Court resulted in only 8 pieces of information after the Chief Constable objected on the grounds the case was ongoing. This has always puzzled me because since the McCanns are not her Guardians how can they act for her.?

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Post  Panda on Sat 4 Feb - 8:59

Panda


03/02/2012 at 7:38 pm



I think in view of Gerry and the Daily Mail questioning copyright I think I ought to tell you the
word “neglect” does not appear in any of the reports. If I were you I would delete it before you are
Carter-Rucked.LOL






Reply







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03/02/2012 at 10:43 pm



Fuck Carter-Ruck. But, thanks for the concern.

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Post  pennylane on Sat 4 Feb - 9:02

Panda wrote:Panda


03/02/2012 at 7:38 pm



I think in view of Gerry and the Daily Mail questioning copyright I think I ought to tell you the
word “neglect” does not appear in any of the reports. If I were you I would delete it before you are
Carter-Rucked.LOL






Reply







Hardlinemarxist


03/02/2012 at 10:43 pm



Fuck Carter-Ruck. But, thanks for the concern.


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Post  Panda on Sat 4 Feb - 9:09

pennylane wrote:
Panda wrote:Panda


03/02/2012 at 7:38 pm



I think in view of Gerry and the Daily Mail questioning copyright I think I ought to tell you the
word “neglect” does not appear in any of the reports. If I were you I would delete it before you are
Carter-Rucked.LOL






Reply







Hardlinemarxist


03/02/2012 at 10:43 pm



Fuck Carter-Ruck. But, thanks for the concern.


I just replied saying I won't bail him out.

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Post  pennylane on Sat 4 Feb - 9:13

Panda wrote:
pennylane wrote:
Panda wrote:Panda


03/02/2012 at 7:38 pm



I think in view of Gerry and the Daily Mail questioning copyright I think I ought to tell you the
word “neglect” does not appear in any of the reports. If I were you I would delete it before you are
Carter-Rucked.LOL






Reply







Hardlinemarxist


03/02/2012 at 10:43 pm



Fuck Carter-Ruck. But, thanks for the concern.


I just replied saying I won't bail him out.

Panda, don't be so mean spirited.

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Post  Lillyofthevalley on Sat 4 Feb - 9:28

Haven't the McCanns already admitted to neglect?, thats what gets to a lot of folk, that they have admitted to it but never got done for neglect?

So how can CR stop anyone saying it

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sat 4 Feb - 9:33

AnnaEsse wrote:
Jahbulon wrote:Does the £2m include Child Benefit for Madeleine still claimed by Kate and Brother Gerry Mc€ann?

I wouldn't have thought they'd be receiving Child Benefit for Madeleine, but I can't find anything on Google about this benefit for missing children. However, if they had been receiving it, it would have amounted to about £4,000 over the nearly five years, which is a drop in the ocean compared to costs incurred elsewhere by the investigation.

That's an interesting question as to whether child benefit can be claimed for a missing child. I found this:

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070912095518AAPMLyZ

Note the reply from "dancer1" !

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Post  pennylane on Sat 4 Feb - 9:36

Lillyofthevalley wrote:Haven't the McCanns already admitted to neglect?, thats what gets to a lot of folk, that they have admitted to it but never got done for neglect?

So how can CR stop anyone saying it

To those of us who have paid close attention to their cock and bull story, they admitted neglecting their 3 under four year old toddlers five nights in a row. However, according to Kate and Gerry, they spoke to 'the professionals,' and were assured that their parenting was "within the realms of responsible parenting." So no, they haven't admitted to neglect.


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Post  Panda on Sat 4 Feb - 9:58

Not Born Yesterday wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
Jahbulon wrote:Does the £2m include Child Benefit for Madeleine still claimed by Kate and Brother Gerry Mc€ann?

I wouldn't have thought they'd be receiving Child Benefit for Madeleine, but I can't find anything on Google about this benefit for missing children. However, if they had been receiving it, it would have amounted to about £4,000 over the nearly five years, which is a drop in the ocean compared to costs incurred elsewhere by the investigation.

That's an interesting question as to whether child benefit can be claimed for a missing child. I found this:

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070912095518AAPMLyZ

Note the reply from "dancer1" !

Hi NBY ....your'e a regular Sherlock Holmes the way you find all this stuff. Iv' spent the last 2 days searching my computer trying to find holiday photos
a friend downloaded for me a while ago.

I don't think Family allowance has been paid, if you go into Hosptal there is only 6 weeks allowed before any Pensions or allowances are stopped. Since
Madeleine has been missing, no money has been spent on her for food, clothing etc .

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Post  Jahbulon on Sat 4 Feb - 10:26

pennylane wrote:So no, they haven't admitted to neglect.

So, if you or I accuse Kate & Brother Gerry Mc€ann of neglect, they'll go to court, claiming they repeatedly left two and three year old children alone, at night, in a foreign country, behind an unlocked door, while they went out drinking, and that does not amount to neglect?


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Post  NoStone on Sat 4 Feb - 10:28

Jahbulon wrote:
pennylane wrote:So no, they haven't admitted to neglect.

So, if you or I accuse Kate & Brother Gerry Mc€ann of neglect, they'll go to court, claiming they left two and three year old children alone, at night, in a foreign country, behind an unlocked door, while they went out drinking, and that does not amount to neglect?

This is maybe why the child was made a Ward of Court????

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Post  Guest on Sat 4 Feb - 10:32

But they abandoned all three children in the same way (or so they have told us), and the twins are not WoC - so there have to be other factors.

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Post  pennylane on Sat 4 Feb - 10:33

Jahbulon wrote:
pennylane wrote:So no, they haven't admitted to neglect.

So, if you or I accuse Kate & Brother Gerry Mc€ann of neglect, they'll go to court, claiming they left two and three year old children alone, at night, in a foreign country, behind an unlocked door, while they went out drinking, and that does not amount to neglect?

Morning Jahbulon,

Well not when your Drs Kate and Gerry McCann apparently! They proclaimed to all and sundry that UK 'professionals' advised them that their 'actions were well within the realms of responsible parenting.'

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Post  Panda on Sat 4 Feb - 11:29

The End Is Nigh wrote:But they abandoned all three children in the same way (or so they have told us), and the twins are not WoC - so there have to be other factors.

As I said earlier TEIN.......while the McCanns were in Portugal a QC advised them to make Madeleine a WofC so in the event of the McCanns being jailed
for neglect HMG would continue the search for Madeleine. The sentence for Neglect is 1 yr in prison, or if Madeleine was not found, neglect causing
harm which carries a sentence of up to 10 yrs. The one year sentence was allowed to lapse and I suspect the Portugese would not have sentenced the
McCanns because of U.K. Government interference.

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Post  jd16 on Sat 4 Feb - 13:23

Not Born Yesterday wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
Jahbulon wrote:Does the £2m include Child Benefit for Madeleine still claimed by Kate and Brother Gerry Mc€ann?

I wouldn't have thought they'd be receiving Child Benefit for Madeleine, but I can't find anything on Google about this benefit for missing children. However, if they had been receiving it, it would have amounted to about £4,000 over the nearly five years, which is a drop in the ocean compared to costs incurred elsewhere by the investigation.

That's an interesting question as to whether child benefit can be claimed for a missing child. I found this:

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070912095518AAPMLyZ

Note the reply from "dancer1" !

Another interesting reply.....Until they are officially assumed dead they have to be registered missing for seven years so they can easily claim for seven years provided there is no conviction

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Post  tigger on Sat 4 Feb - 13:35

By next May I make that at around 20 pounds per week for the eldest child, in total on the 3/5/12 it will be 5.280 pounds.

What I really want to know, seeing that Maddie was due to start school in September, which school she was registered at. Surely by May of the same year, the child would have had to be registered before the school holidays started?
I wouldn't be surprised to find she'd not been registered anywhere.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sat 4 Feb - 13:38

Tigger, I remember reading that Madeleine was due to start at the same school where the twins now attend. A desk was left empty for her.

If I can find the article I'll add it here.

P.S. This is one of several similar stories.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/64108-madeleines-school-seat-left-empty


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Post  Panda on Sat 4 Feb - 13:44

I don"t think they can claim for Madeleiene.....it is a BENEFIT for the child, so if Madeleine is not costing the McCanns a penny so how can they claim for her? In fact Madeleine has made more money for her Parents by her absence.!!!!

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Post  jd16 on Sat 4 Feb - 14:20

Panda wrote:I don"t think they can claim for Madeleiene.....it is a BENEFIT for the child, so if Madeleine is not costing the McCanns a penny so how can they claim for her? In fact Madeleine has made more money for her Parents by her absence.!!!!

Maddies disappearance has made them millionaires, get into the celebrity and governments worlds, made them 'the' most protected couple in the land and treated as the real 'royal' couple. mccanns leave the benefits for the ones that really need them

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Post  tigger on Sat 4 Feb - 17:06

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Tigger, I remember reading that Madeleine was due to start at the same school where the twins now attend. A desk was left empty for her.

If I can find the article I'll add it here.

P.S. This is one of several similar stories.

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/64108-madeleines-school-seat-left-empty

Thanks, imo it is an important part of the story. She was very articulate according to her parents.

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Post  cherry1 on Sat 4 Feb - 17:12

I dont believe that the Mccanns have stated the actual name of this 'professional' who told them what they did was within the bounds of reasonable parenting, and I cant honestly imagine any professional owning up to saying such a thing either.

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Post  Guest on Sat 4 Feb - 17:22

cherry1 wrote:I dont believe that the Mccanns have stated the actual name of this 'professional' who told them what they did was within the bounds of reasonable parenting, and I cant honestly imagine any professional owning up to saying such a thing either.


Lorraine Kelly, at a guess .....................

(Should that be Dame Lorraine?)

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Post  cherry1 on Sat 4 Feb - 17:25

you sure it wasnt Fiona Phillips

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Post  tigger on Sat 4 Feb - 17:43

cherry1 wrote:I dont believe that the Mccanns have stated the actual name of this 'professional' who told them what they did was within the bounds of reasonable parenting, and I cant honestly imagine any professional owning up to saying such a thing either.

I think it was one of the lawyers of the IFLG (International Family Law Group) who visited them on the 11th May in PdL. Allegedly, in any case it has no more weight in law than if I absolved them personally. Under both Portugese and British law it is Child neglect, it is illegal to leave a child in a position whereby they could suffer injury or be in danger.

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