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UPDATE : Tony Bennett

Post  Karen on Wed 8 Feb - 20:54

http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2012/02/08/update-on-todays-court-proceedings-mccann-vs-bennett/

Mike Gunnill will be called as a witness as to how he obtained the "60 reasons booklet"

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Re: UPDATE : Tony Bennett

Post  kitti on Wed 8 Feb - 21:11

All the might off money and carter ruck versus Tony.....

How pathetic are the mccanns.

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Post  Guest on Wed 8 Feb - 21:14

Yes, that is an excellent development. Entrapment is a sinister activity.

A shame, however, that the issue of evidence for abduction (lack of) has to wait until late in the Hearing. It is, after all, the essence of the matter. But at least we have confirmation it that Bennett can raise the matter at some point.

The whole thing does seem vexatious - almost a fishing trip by McCarterruck (And one where they provided the fish themselves).

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Post  kitti on Wed 8 Feb - 21:21

He can mention the dogs lol.....



For five years the mccanns have not given us any evidence off an abduction but on the plus side .....Tony can talk about the cadaver scent found in the apt and car.........what's the betting that the papers will slip that in somewhere ....



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Re: UPDATE : Tony Bennett

Post  malena stool on Wed 8 Feb - 21:32

kitti wrote:He can mention the dogs lol.....



For five years the mccanns have not given us any evidence off an abduction but on the plus side .....Tony can talk about the cadaver scent found in the apt and car.........what's the betting that the papers will slip that in somewhere ....
If the court allows subjects such as canine evidence eg; cadaverine or even DNA to be brought into the case. Carter Ruck will prevent such evidence being submited if they can.


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Re: UPDATE : Tony Bennett

Post  kitti on Wed 8 Feb - 21:39

How can the judge say...'don't mention the dogs'.....and surely tony is allowed to repeat what the pj has written before they signed off stating......Madeleine McCann died in apt 5a on 3rd may 2007 and the parents did not want to give up the cadaver ......

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Re: UPDATE : Tony Bennett

Post  malena stool on Wed 8 Feb - 21:50

kitti wrote:How can the judge say...'don't mention the dogs'.....and surely tony is allowed to repeat what the pj has written before they signed off stating......Madeleine McCann died in apt 5a on 3rd may 2007 and the parents did not want to give up the cadaver ......
I really don't know kitti, but Carter Ruck are well into using the law to its full extent, if evidence can be legally withheld from being introduced they will know how to do it.
With the evidence against an abduction, Kate's refusal to answer questions, the McCanns mistruths and storyline variants of the McCanns and their tapas buddies have told over the past 5 years, they really should be in a cell. Carter Ruck's skills behind the scenes are in my opinion the reason they are still at large.

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Re: UPDATE : Tony Bennett

Post  almostgothic on Wed 8 Feb - 21:54

@ malena stool

I think your last sentence is spot on!

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Re: UPDATE : Tony Bennett

Post  flower on Wed 8 Feb - 22:01

almostgothic wrote:@ malena stool

I think your last sentence is spot on!

All paid for out of the Fund that was meant to be searching for Madeleine.............

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Re: UPDATE : Tony Bennett

Post  contrary on Wed 8 Feb - 22:10

But nevertheless, good news - and well done Tony!

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Re: UPDATE : Tony Bennett

Post  Guest on Wed 8 Feb - 22:15

I think so too Malena, and I know exactly what will happen when the money runs out. CR don't "do" No Win No Fee.

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Re: UPDATE : Tony Bennett

Post  IAMBAZZA on Wed 8 Feb - 22:16

as posted on Jill Havern site

Update on today’s court proceedings: McCann Vs Bennett
The hearing was only ever about getting the matter ready for trial.

The hearing lasted around 1 hour and 50 minutes. The McCanns were represented by Jacob Dean (barrister), Adam Tudor, Isabel Hudson and two assistants.

Carter-Ruck had proposed a timetable for serving and filing evidence ahead of the trial and proposed that the trial would last for 1-2 days, to be held as soon as practicable on or after 10 April.

I made a number of applications at the hearing, which out of courtesy I notified to Carter-Ruck by hand on 2 February.

My application to have a ‘McKenzie friend’ [lay helper] with me at the hearing was granted by consent, and I thank my friend who acted as my McKenzie helper today.

I made an outline application to be allowed to apply for one part of the original undertaking I gave to be rescinded. This was granted. I have until 22 February to submit that application. That involves paying a Court fee of £80.00 and submitting detailed reasons for that application. At this point I will say that I do not propose to seek to rescind any of the following undertakings, all of which I have abided by except for the sale of one book to Mr Michael Gunnill (see below):

• To deliver up all hard copies of “What really happened to Madeleine McCann? 60 key reasons which suggest that she was not abducted” (known in short as ‘60 Reasons’) to Carter-Ruck
• To deliver up all hard copies of the leaflet entitled “What really happened to Madeleine McCann? 10 key reasons which suggest that she was not abducted
• To destroy any electronic version of ‘What really happened to Madeleine McCann? 60 key reasons which suggest that she was not abducted”.
• To destroy any electronic version of the leaflet entitled “What really happened to Madeleine McCann? 10 key reasons which suggest that she was not abducted
• To close our website, whose domain name was: www.madeleinefoundation.org‘
• To use my best endeavours to delete or otherwise prevent access to any and all defamatory allegations about the Claimants published by him on the website http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net
• To use my best endeavours to delete or otherwise prevent access to any and all defamatory allegations about the Claimants published by him on the website http://democracyforum.co.uk
• To use my best endeavours to delete or otherwise prevent access to any and all defamatory allegations about the Claimants published by him on the website http://www.anorak.co.uk
• To use my best endeavours to delete or otherwise prevent access to any and all defamatory allegations about the Claimants published by him on the website www.truthformadeleine.com
• To pay £440.00 towards the Defendant’s costs [subsequently reduced to £400.00.]

I applied for an Order that ‘the Claimants [the McCanns] do specify which words they allege constitute alleged breaches of my undertaking’. This was because of what I claimed was a lack of clarity in the McCanns’ application. The Practice Rules are very specific in requiring that in a contempt of court allegation, the Claimants must be precise and full in explaining to the Defendant precisely why he is alleged to be in breach of an undertaking to such an extent that he deserves to be sent to prison.

I had also asked for more time to prepare my defence. The Judge was concerned about the volume of paperwork I was faced with [153 alleged breaches of the undertaking] and said that ‘there is considerable force in Mr Bennett’s request for more time to prepare his defence’.

This was resolved as follows. The Judge invited Jacob Dean [the McCanns’ barrister] to take a 5-minute adjournment to consider whether he wished to reduce his 153 alleged breaches to, say, ‘the 10 most serious breaches’. He said that if the McCanns could prove those breaches, it was unnecessary to prove the other 143. After 15 minutes, the McCanns’ legal team came back into Court and said that they would submit a new application based on ‘around 25’ of the most serious breaches. The trial will then be confined effectively to an examination of just those 25 alleged breaches. The Judge gave them until 4pm on Friday 17 February to serve this new application on me. He also suggested to Mr Dean that Carter-Ruck needed to be much more precise than they had been about the words I used that were said to be in breach of the undertaking and which term of any undertaking they were alleged to breach.

The Judge granted me until 9 March to reply to the McCanns’ revised application [the McCanns had originally asked for my response by 22 February.

The McCanns will then have the right to reply to my response. They will have to serve this on me by 5 April.

I applied for an Order that Michael Gunnill be produced as a witness and was able to inform the Judge in outline of how Mr Gunnill had obtained a ’60 Reasons’ book from me by entrapment, and how Mr Gunnill had boasted about doing this ‘on behalf of a third party’ which I believed to be the McCanns, via Carter-Ruck. I was granted permission to apply for a Witness Order against Mr Gunnill requiring to attend the trial and give evidence. I shall be doing that shortly.

I had applied for an Order that one of the McCanns make a Witness Statement to (a) state what evidence there is that Madeleine McCann was abducted and (b) to state what evidence there was, as claimed in Isabel Hudson’s Affidavit, that any of my actions had, as the McCanns claimed, ‘harmed the search for Madeleine’. These applications were refused. The Judge said that it was for the Claimants to give whatever evidence they felt was necessary to support their application to commit me to prison and that if I felt there was insufficient evidence that an abduction had occurred I would have the right to make submissions about this in my closing speech at the trial.

I applied for the McCanns to produce certified English translations of the two judgments against them in the Portuguese Court of Appeal (October 2010) and Portuguese Supreme Court (March 2011). The Judge refused, after asking the McCanns’ barrister if Dr Amaral’s book was now freely available in Portugal, to which of course he agreed. He said that if I considered these relevant, I should produce these myself. One of my supporters at the hearing kindly volunteered afterwards to see if she could obtain these for me.

The trial is scheduled for 2 days, any time on or after 17 April 2012.

In conclusion, I would like to thank each and every one of the eight people who kindly troubled to attend court to support me, and it was a pleasure to buy them all lunch at the Dulcis Cafe afterwards.

Tony Bennett

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Re: UPDATE : Tony Bennett

Post  Oldartform on Wed 8 Feb - 22:40

Tony has been given permission to APPLY for Mike Gunnill to be a witness, but it doesn`t necessarily mean the permission will be granted.

Sorry to be a damper. But we`ll live in hope that he will be successful.


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Re: UPDATE : Tony Bennett

Post  AnnaEsse on Wed 8 Feb - 22:42

IAMBAZZA wrote:as posted on Jill Havern site

Update on today’s court proceedings: McCann Vs Bennett
The hearing was only ever about getting the matter ready for trial.

The hearing lasted around 1 hour and 50 minutes. The McCanns were represented by Jacob Dean (barrister), Adam Tudor, Isabel Hudson and two assistants.

Carter-Ruck had proposed a timetable for serving and filing evidence ahead of the trial and proposed that the trial would last for 1-2 days, to be held as soon as practicable on or after 10 April.

I made a number of applications at the hearing, which out of courtesy I notified to Carter-Ruck by hand on 2 February.

My application to have a ‘McKenzie friend’ [lay helper] with me at the hearing was granted by consent, and I thank my friend who acted as my McKenzie helper today.

I made an outline application to be allowed to apply for one part of the original undertaking I gave to be rescinded. This was granted. I have until 22 February to submit that application. That involves paying a Court fee of £80.00 and submitting detailed reasons for that application. At this point I will say that I do not propose to seek to rescind any of the following undertakings, all of which I have abided by except for the sale of one book to Mr Michael Gunnill (see below):

• To deliver up all hard copies of “What really happened to Madeleine McCann? 60 key reasons which suggest that she was not abducted” (known in short as ‘60 Reasons’) to Carter-Ruck
• To deliver up all hard copies of the leaflet entitled “What really happened to Madeleine McCann? 10 key reasons which suggest that she was not abducted
• To destroy any electronic version of ‘What really happened to Madeleine McCann? 60 key reasons which suggest that she was not abducted”.
• To destroy any electronic version of the leaflet entitled “What really happened to Madeleine McCann? 10 key reasons which suggest that she was not abducted
• To close our website, whose domain name was: www.madeleinefoundation.org‘
• To use my best endeavours to delete or otherwise prevent access to any and all defamatory allegations about the Claimants published by him on the website http://missingmadeleine.forumotion.net
• To use my best endeavours to delete or otherwise prevent access to any and all defamatory allegations about the Claimants published by him on the website http://democracyforum.co.uk
• To use my best endeavours to delete or otherwise prevent access to any and all defamatory allegations about the Claimants published by him on the website http://www.anorak.co.uk
• To use my best endeavours to delete or otherwise prevent access to any and all defamatory allegations about the Claimants published by him on the website www.truthformadeleine.com
• To pay £440.00 towards the Defendant’s costs [subsequently reduced to £400.00.]

I applied for an Order that ‘the Claimants [the McCanns] do specify which words they allege constitute alleged breaches of my undertaking’. This was because of what I claimed was a lack of clarity in the McCanns’ application. The Practice Rules are very specific in requiring that in a contempt of court allegation, the Claimants must be precise and full in explaining to the Defendant precisely why he is alleged to be in breach of an undertaking to such an extent that he deserves to be sent to prison.

I had also asked for more time to prepare my defence. The Judge was concerned about the volume of paperwork I was faced with [153 alleged breaches of the undertaking] and said that ‘there is considerable force in Mr Bennett’s request for more time to prepare his defence’.

This was resolved as follows. The Judge invited Jacob Dean [the McCanns’ barrister] to take a 5-minute adjournment to consider whether he wished to reduce his 153 alleged breaches to, say, ‘the 10 most serious breaches’. He said that if the McCanns could prove those breaches, it was unnecessary to prove the other 143. After 15 minutes, the McCanns’ legal team came back into Court and said that they would submit a new application based on ‘around 25’ of the most serious breaches. The trial will then be confined effectively to an examination of just those 25 alleged breaches. The Judge gave them until 4pm on Friday 17 February to serve this new application on me. He also suggested to Mr Dean that Carter-Ruck needed to be much more precise than they had been about the words I used that were said to be in breach of the undertaking and which term of any undertaking they were alleged to breach.

The Judge granted me until 9 March to reply to the McCanns’ revised application [the McCanns had originally asked for my response by 22 February.

The McCanns will then have the right to reply to my response. They will have to serve this on me by 5 April.

I applied for an Order that Michael Gunnill be produced as a witness and was able to inform the Judge in outline of how Mr Gunnill had obtained a ’60 Reasons’ book from me by entrapment, and how Mr Gunnill had boasted about doing this ‘on behalf of a third party’ which I believed to be the McCanns, via Carter-Ruck. I was granted permission to apply for a Witness Order against Mr Gunnill requiring to attend the trial and give evidence. I shall be doing that shortly.

I had applied for an Order that one of the McCanns make a Witness Statement to (a) state what evidence there is that Madeleine McCann was abducted and (b) to state what evidence there was, as claimed in Isabel Hudson’s Affidavit, that any of my actions had, as the McCanns claimed, ‘harmed the search for Madeleine’. These applications were refused. The Judge said that it was for the Claimants to give whatever evidence they felt was necessary to support their application to commit me to prison and that if I felt there was insufficient evidence that an abduction had occurred I would have the right to make submissions about this in my closing speech at the trial.

I applied for the McCanns to produce certified English translations of the two judgments against them in the Portuguese Court of Appeal (October 2010) and Portuguese Supreme Court (March 2011). The Judge refused, after asking the McCanns’ barrister if Dr Amaral’s book was now freely available in Portugal, to which of course he agreed. He said that if I considered these relevant, I should produce these myself. One of my supporters at the hearing kindly volunteered afterwards to see if she could obtain these for me.

The trial is scheduled for 2 days, any time on or after 17 April 2012.

In conclusion, I would like to thank each and every one of the eight people who kindly troubled to attend court to support me, and it was a pleasure to buy them all lunch at the Dulcis Cafe afterwards.

Tony Bennett

Fantastic Tony!

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Post  almostgothic on Wed 8 Feb - 22:58

David v Goliath.


David did rather well ......

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Post  IAMBAZZA on Wed 8 Feb - 23:03

Indeed - I think Tony will be quite pleased with the outcome (thus far) and the McCanns and Carter Ruck will be a bit peeved.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Wed 8 Feb - 23:05

The McCanns were represented by Jacob Dean (barrister), Adam Tudor, Isabel Hudson and two assistants.


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Post  pennylane on Wed 8 Feb - 23:12

almostgothic wrote:David v Goliath.


David did rather well ......

Yes Indeed!

I'm so pleased several people showed up to support him too!

What a truly courageous gentleman Tony is!

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Post  jd16 on Wed 8 Feb - 23:18

AnnaEsse wrote:
The McCanns were represented by Jacob Dean (barrister), Adam Tudor, Isabel Hudson and two assistants.


For a member of the general public who is expressing an opinion this is very heavy indeed, quite shocking actually. If only they had used this same effort to search for their daughter!

or any effort for that matter

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Post  chrissie1 on Wed 8 Feb - 23:20

Well done Mr Bennett

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Post  AnnaEsse on Wed 8 Feb - 23:27

jd16 wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
The McCanns were represented by Jacob Dean (barrister), Adam Tudor, Isabel Hudson and two assistants.


For a member of the general public who is expressing an opinion this is very heavy indeed, quite shocking actually. If only they had used this same effort to search for their daughter!

or any effort for that matter

It's just laughable, sending all those people in against one man representing himself, who actually stood up to them and did pretty well!

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Post  almostgothic on Wed 8 Feb - 23:33

It really throws into focus the huge legal shield they're hiding behind.

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Post  Claudia79 on Wed 8 Feb - 23:44

AnnaEsse wrote:
The McCanns were represented by Jacob Dean (barrister), Adam Tudor, Isabel Hudson and two assistants.


All of them working pro bono, of course...

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Post  jd16 on Wed 8 Feb - 23:46

AnnaEsse wrote: It's just laughable, sending all those people in against one man representing himself

This says it all!

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Post  Angelique on Thu 9 Feb - 0:16

I too think Tony has stood up well in representing himself. I hope his "entrapment" defence is accepted.

I am glad there was some support at the Hearing - I am too far away unfortunately otherwise I would have liked to have been there to support him.

Well done Tony

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