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Post  chrissie1 on Sat 11 Feb - 22:46

Browsing through Mccannfiles i came across this, i think it's worth a read
Criminal Profiling Topic of the Day: Another "Ludicrous" Theory in the Disappearance of Madeleine McCann The Daily Profiler

Criminal Profiler Pat Brown
Monday, October 8, 2007

A short time ago, I made a suggestion that the British police might investigate the McCann's residence (and the residences of friends and family of the McCanns) for the possibility that the body of Madeleine McCann might have been transported into England. Some folk immediately labeled the theory ridiculous, or ludicrous, as the McCanns would say. How, they asked, could the McCanns carry a putrefying and decaying body in a suitcase and get it on and off of an airplane? I understand that this sounds mighty foolish to many who don't work in the field of criminal investigation and profiling and they think Pat Brown is a nutcase par excellence!

Let me clear up a few misconceptions: first of all, it is a theory, not a fact. Secondly, a theory is useful to stimulate investigative avenues not yet thought of that might lead to evidence that would otherwise have been overlooked. Third, offering one theory does not mean it is the only theory or even the best theory. It is far more likely that Madeleine's body is somewhere underground in Portugal or Spain or in the ocean. These are simpler places to bury a body. It may be that the body has just not yet been discovered. This is very often the case; while rumors and theories abound about white slavery and porn rings and sightings are made of the victim all over the world, the body of the poor thing has simply been lying in a ravine for the past few months! Sometimes bodies fall into strange and difficult places or are well-buried for years. Then, one day a jogger trips over the body or a farmer turns over some soil to plant his corn, and, voila! The victim has been found.

Maddy McCann will likely be found in a similar way (unless someone did one heck of a job of hiding her). Whether a child predator took Maddy or the parents did her in, she will probably one day just be found. However, there is nothing wrong with being proactive and trying to find her sooner than later. Therefore, the police should follow all leads and theories. IF they find her sooner, than not all the evidence with the body or within the body will have been destroyed by time and nature.

So, search in Portugal and Spain and any other place one can think of. And, yes, search in England: Maddy just might be there.

Would it really be possible for one of the McCanns to cart the body of their daughter back to England? Yes, absolutely. Because of the climate in Portugal, it is possible that should they have buried Maddy in a shallow grave in a sandy substrate, her body would have mummified. Mummification is a desiccation of the corpse where the fluids drain into the ground and the rest of the body dries up. There is relatively little odor associated with a mummified body.

If this occurred, the body would be easier to transport; it would be lighter and drier and lacking the horrible smell of a corpse. Such a body could easily be placed in a sealed bag and placed in a suitcase. Screening of stowed luggage is not likely to uncover a body inside of a suitcase and when the traveler reaches the other end and goes through customs, they enter the "Have nothing to declare line," and just walk through (unless they exhibit concerning behavior that raises a red flag and launches a search of the luggage). As to the McCanns, I seriously doubt they were searched upon arrival, not with all the press surrounding them and the mass of curious onlookers, reporters, and VIPS lurking about.

IF the McCanns were involved and IF Maddy's body was brought home, when this would have happened is another question. Unfortunately, only those inside the organization would (we hope) know the truth about the McCann's movements. For example, Gerry McCann returned to England on June 19, just four days after an exhaustive search for Madeleine was called off. This search was in an arid, desolate area (the kind of climate which might encourage the mummification of a body) near a town called Odiaxere. A letter from an unknown sender had stated she could be found there in a shallow grave. Four days later, Gerry is on a plane home. I don't know if he took any luggage with him, anything more than a rucksack (which I don't know the size of). He only stayed for the day, purportedly to attend some meetings. He claims he had his wallet stolen while getting money from an ATM and later that evening, the wallet was mailed back to him. A rather peculiar story that I wonder might not be a cover for the reason he was late to his meetings; he ostensibly spent the time calling credit card companies to cancel his credit cards.

If I were the police investigator, I would follow up this lead. I would want to know what luggage Gerry took with him to England. I would try to see if there was any proof to the wallet theft story. I would find out if he had any "alone" time on the trip. I would find out if he made those phone calls to the credit card companies and if he really got money from an ATM. I would find out exactly where he was that day through any evidence of his movements (phone call tracking, receipts, witnesses, etc.). I would want to know if anyone met him, especially anyone who he could have transferred a package from one suitcase to another.

I would check all the McCann trips and look for possibly ways for them to transport a body away from Portugal. And, again, I would look for all possible places within Portugal or neighboring countries as possible places to hide or bury a body. I would check the possibility of a burial at sea.

If I were the Portuguese police, I would be following all leads, even those that lead away from the McCanns. It never hurts to be thorough. The point is to recover Madeleine, dead or alive, and bring justice to those that hurt her. In the end, it doesn't matter which theory is correct (except as an educational tool for future investigations). It only matters that the case is solved.

Criminal Profiler Pat Brown

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Post  Autumn on Sat 11 Feb - 23:00

It was also on that trip back to the UK that we are told Gerry came to the aid of a passenger who was taken ill. An ambulance met the plane at the airport....did Gerry avoid going through customs by accompanying the 'ill' man to the hospital in the ambulance? As far as I know, nothing to verify this story...we only have Gerry's word for it.

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Post  kitti on Sun 12 Feb - 8:34

If you remember, mr amaral was removed after saying he wanted the dogs to go to UK.

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Post  marxman on Sun 12 Feb - 15:06

Autumn wrote:It was also on that trip back to the UK that we are told Gerry came to the aid of a passenger who was taken ill. An ambulance met the plane at the airport....did Gerry avoid going through customs by accompanying the 'ill' man to the hospital in the ambulance? As far as I know, nothing to verify this story...we only have Gerry's word for it.

Hi Autumn I can't understand why Gerry would
raise this episode if there was dodgy dealings
affoot. Why court attention to this?

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Post  Autumn on Sun 12 Feb - 15:16

marxman wrote:
Autumn wrote:It was also on that trip back to the UK that we are told Gerry came to the aid of a passenger who was taken ill. An ambulance met the plane at the airport....did Gerry avoid going through customs by accompanying the 'ill' man to the hospital in the ambulance? As far as I know, nothing to verify this story...we only have Gerry's word for it.

Hi Autumn I can't understand why Gerry would
raise this episode if there was dodgy dealings
affoot. Why court attention to this?

Hi Marxman tying in with Pat's theory, a way of avoiding customs maybe? Everything they say is usually for a reason and wonder did Gerry mention the ill passenger on his blog? Strange things seemed to be happening around that time so, as Pat say, every detail of Gerry's trip should have been looked at closely and, where possible, verified.


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Post  margaret on Sun 12 Feb - 15:25

Autumn wrote:
marxman wrote:
Autumn wrote:It was also on that trip back to the UK that we are told Gerry came to the aid of a passenger who was taken ill. An ambulance met the plane at the airport....did Gerry avoid going through customs by accompanying the 'ill' man to the hospital in the ambulance? As far as I know, nothing to verify this story...we only have Gerry's word for it.

Hi Autumn I can't understand why Gerry would
raise this episode if there was dodgy dealings
affoot. Why court attention to this?

Tying in with Pat's theory marxman, a way of avoiding customs maybe? Everything they say is usually for a reason and wonder did Gerry mention the ill passenger on his blog? Strange things seemed to be happening around that time so, as Pat say, every detail of Gerry's trip should have been looked at closely and, where possible, verified.

We do afterall only have the McCanns say that there was an incident on the plane that Gerry attended to. Considering this story was the biggest news of 2007 l've always thought it odd that the man wasn't traced (seem to recall it was a man) and told his side of the story....

And the wallet was supposedly stolen too... what an eventful trip....

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Post  tigger on Sun 12 Feb - 15:34

This was as late as around the 20th June. Six weeks later the traces are found in the Renault, clearly not traces from a mummified body. For me, it's a no go this one. One could argue that the body was moved to the airport in the Renault but that still doesn't explain the evidence found. No mummy, big smell.

Apart from that, Gerry was big time into publicizing himself. No posse of press waiting for him? No press when he lost his wallet? I think the story had run out of new material by then. The diaries and his blog show that there wasn't that much press around even in PdL. I think he was stirring up publicity. Things were slacking and Gerry clearly loved being in the limelight.
The early rush of attention had subsided - imo it was just a human interest story which wasn't even picked up by the press. Only source is his blog.
I'm sure some journalists may have tried to find this elusive man, there ought to have been an entry in the flight log, a record of an ambulance called to the terminal and some idea of which hospital would be nearest. But we hear nothing, imo because there was nothing.

In addition: the body would have had to be stowed in the overhead luggage hold or in the hold. Overhead seems a bit too much for me, so if the luggage was in the hold, the plane lands, sick man is put into ambulance, meanwhile or afterwards, rest disembark. Even if Gerry went with the man in the ambulance, his suitcase still had to be retrieved from the carousel, which can take quite a while at Heathrow. Did the ambulance have to wait all this time for that to happen?
Most suitcases don't get checked from flights like that anyway.



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Post  chrissie1 on Sun 12 Feb - 22:08

The next trip for the christening of m wrights children stood out for me when i read kates bewk page 197 why didn't kate fly out with gerry?
why when some-one had mislaid a child would you want them as a god parent
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Post  Guest on Sun 12 Feb - 22:38

The wallet, with pictures of Madeleine, was stolen by a "dirty animal", according to Philomena. It's a strange description of a pickpocket; it's more like a description of a pervert.

Now why would a "dirty animal" want credit cards or pictures of a toddler? What would they use them for? If they ever turned up later on, having been used for nefarious purposes, well that was because it was a "dirty animal" that stole them. How convenient.

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Post  Autumn on Sun 12 Feb - 23:46

chrissie1 wrote:The next trip for the christening of m wrights children stood out for me when i read kates bewk page 197 why didn't kate fly out with gerry?
why when some-one had mislaid a child would you want them as a god parent
sorry

Anyone know how old Wright's children were when they were christened? I don't think they were babies and think I read somewhere they were about 10. I know people can be christened at any age but I'm thinking under the circumstances and given that the Wrights had waited quite a few years to get round to having their children christened, I would have expected that they would have postponed the event til later.

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Post  cherry1 on Sun 12 Feb - 23:56

http://steelmagnolia-mccannarchives.blogspot.com/2012/01/mystery-over-christening-weekend.html

according to the above they were 12 and 10.

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Post  tigger on Mon 13 Feb - 7:24

Autumn wrote:
chrissie1 wrote:The next trip for the christening of m wrights children stood out for me when i read kates bewk page 197 why didn't kate fly out with gerry?
why when some-one had mislaid a child would you want them as a god parent
sorry

Anyone know how old Wright's children were when they were christened? I don't think they were babies and think I read somewhere they were about 10. I know people can be christened at any age but I'm thinking under the circumstances and given that the Wrights had waited quite a few years to get round to having their children christened, I would have expected that they would have postponed the event til later.

So it's not just Kate and Gerry who so suddenly - as from the 3rd May - caught this religious fever. Michael Wright felt compelled to have his children baptized, I'm assuming he and his wife are catholics, so a trifle lapsed? I understand this takes a little time to arrange, so when exactly was the priest asked to perform this baptism? Would that have been prior to the 3rd May 07 or just after?

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Post  kitti on Mon 13 Feb - 8:04

You don't need a suitcase to put a body in, a holdall will suffice....perhaps a BLUE holdall...or even a BLUE sports bag.

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Post  Guest on Mon 13 Feb - 10:19

kitti wrote:You don't need a suitcase to put a body in, a holdall will suffice....perhaps a BLUE holdall...or even a BLUE sports bag.

One big enough to, say, hide a tennis raquet in.

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Post  margaret on Mon 13 Feb - 11:34

Yea, but Gerry hasn't got a bag like that remember? Pinky said so.



And why is that cadaver odour dog barking at the very place the bag that never was, was?

I'm sure there must be an innocent explanation.....

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Post  Autumn on Mon 13 Feb - 11:44

cherry1 wrote:http://steelmagnolia-mccannarchives.blogspot.com/2012/01/mystery-over-christening-weekend.html

according to the above they were 12 and 10.

Very interesting article Cherry and does seem strange that Gerry flew to the UK a day before Kate, then Michael Wright flew to PDL then, we are told, back to the UK next day with Kate to attend the Christening. Is there hard evidence that Wright was at the Christening I wonder?

Tigger I agree the Christening does strike me as very odd, especially as they weren't babies as is usual with Catholics. A few strange things went on around that time and wonder about the Christening. As Pat says in her theory, everything they claimed happened over those days should have been thoroughly checked out and verified and, have to say, I feel the PJ have been a bit remiss in failing to do so.

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Post  NoStone on Mon 13 Feb - 12:43

tigger wrote:This was as late as around the 20th June. Six weeks later the traces are found in the Renault, clearly not traces from a mummified body. For me, it's a no go this one. One could argue that the body was moved to the airport in the Renault but that still doesn't explain the evidence found. No mummy, big smell.

Apart from that, Gerry was big time into publicizing himself. No posse of press waiting for him? No press when he lost his wallet? I think the story had run out of new material by then. The diaries and his blog show that there wasn't that much press around even in PdL. I think he was stirring up publicity. Things were slacking and Gerry clearly loved being in the limelight.
The early rush of attention had subsided - imo it was just a human interest story which wasn't even picked up by the press. Only source is his blog.
I'm sure some journalists may have tried to find this elusive man, there ought to have been an entry in the flight log, a record of an ambulance called to the terminal and some idea of which hospital would be nearest. But we hear nothing, imo because there was nothing.

In addition: the body would have had to be stowed in the overhead luggage hold or in the hold. Overhead seems a bit too much for me, so if the luggage was in the hold, the plane lands, sick man is put into ambulance, meanwhile or afterwards, rest disembark. Even if Gerry went with the man in the ambulance, his suitcase still had to be retrieved from the carousel, which can take quite a while at Heathrow. Did the ambulance have to wait all this time for that to happen?
Most suitcases don't get checked from flights like that anyway.



I am by no means an expert on body decomposition but I have accumulated some knowledge as I have gone through life - more out or morbid facination than anything I suppose. I have taken the opportunity to pick up info from a Dr friend and also a mortician who was a neighbour for a while. If it is of interest I will share what I know and you can make of it what you wish. If you don't like gory detail stop reading now!

The decomposition of a body is mainly down to the presence of water and air on which the bacteria that start the decomposition thrives with a good supply of oxygen. It is for these reasons that the soft organs of the body start to decompose first, the gut having lots of bacteria all ready in place to start to multiply but clearly this can move quickly into the other adjacent soft organs, kidney's, liver, lungs heart. In mummification the Egyptians removed these organs along with the brain in the first steps of the process.

The water content of the body is not in itself - sufficient to decompose a body. There are examples of where bodies have been sealed in lead lined coffins where they are almost perfectly preserved as there is no oxygen for the bacteria to grow - anaerobic conditions. On the contrary, where bodies have access to air and lots of water they decompose very quickly. Bodies buried in this country in areas that have high water tables decompose very quickly.

Bodies buried in the ground in this country don't tend to mummify due to the amount of moisture but they can in hotter climes. I was fortunate to live in a small village in Greece for a time and got lots of information from the local friendly locals about their culture and way of life.. In passing I commented that I did not see a very large cemetery at the local church. It was explained to me that there were a small number of temporary graves. People were placed in them in the standing position and after the fifth anniversary of their death, relatives removed the mummified body, scraped and polished the bones and it was these that were lovingly kept by the family.

I am not sure a body could have been buried in Portugal at that time of year for the heat to be sufficient to mummify - unless of course the organs had already been removed. You can of course freeze-dry but I don't think that cannot be done in a conventional freezer.

Decomposition would set in very quickly then imo - slowed down if the body was stored in cooler - drier surroundings. Decomposition could be stopped almost completely if the body was frozen but then we all know how quickly things can thaw out - especially if its hot - in which case any decomposition that had already started prior to freezing would quickly pick up again once it started to warm and fluids started to flow. The other factor in the decompositin of a body of course is maggots - if left in open conditions. Sorry - I did warn you!.

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Post  tigger on Mon 13 Feb - 17:34

Iris wrote:The wallet, with pictures of Madeleine, was stolen by a "dirty animal", according to Philomena. It's a strange description of a pickpocket; it's more like a description of a pervert.

Now why would a "dirty animal" want credit cards or pictures of a toddler? What would they use them for? If they ever turned up later on, having been used for nefarious purposes, well that was because it was a "dirty animal" that stole them. How convenient.

She's a treasure our Phil. What would be do without her statements? I'm sure she must have had emails or crib sheets to read when phoning the press on behalf of Gerry, the wording is often very much Gerry, not Philomena when she is allowed to speak for herself.

This one is interesting - had missed it - 'dirty animal' may well have been to intimate that a lugubrious paedophile (like those stalking them in PdL) may have taken this wallet and used the credit cards for some quick internet porn trawling.
One for you Iris, giving answers before the question is asked. Just in case...

Amazing lack of press everywhere.

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Post  fred on Mon 13 Feb - 17:39

I find it quite worrying that Philomena has the educational lives of so many young people in her hands.

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Post  Oldartform on Mon 13 Feb - 18:22

fred wrote:I find it quite worrying that Philomena has the educational lives of so many young people in her hands.

Yes, such a fine specimen of, what`s supposed to be, a respectable and responsible profession.

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