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Post  Autumn on Fri 17 Feb - 1:44

The McCanns have launched a new appeal on The Official Find Madeleine FB Page to find the Victoria Beckam/Cabbage Patch Doll

Official Find Madeleine Campaign
This is an e-fit picture of a woman aged 30-35 years,approx. 5ft 2" tall, who was behaving suspiciously in the area of the Port Olimpic Marina in Barcelonain the early hours of May 7th 2007. She is a person of interest to the inquiry - as yet, unidentified.



If you know or suspect who she is - please contact the investigation hotline.



I would have thought the McCanns would want to stay quiet about the Victoria Beckham 'sighting' following The Daily Mail article which, to put it bluntly, showed clearly that Dave Edgar had done precious little to 'investigate' first time round:-



THE SUNDAY MAIL - 16th Aug 2009

So why did Madeleine McCann detectives ask so few questions after major breakthrough?
By TOM WORDEN, MARTIN DELGADO and ANDREW CHAPMAN
Last updated at 1:25 AM on 16th August 2009


At a Press conference in London, lead investigator David Edgar appealed for help in finding a ‘bit of a Victoria Beckham lookalike’ whom a British tourist saw looking agitated outside a dockside restaurant in Barcelona three days after Madeleine disappeared.
Retired Cheshire Detective Inspector Mr Edgar said it was possible that Madeleine had been smuggled into the Spanish port by yacht from the Portuguese resort of Praia da Luz, where she vanished on May 3, 2007.
The agitated woman, thought to be Australian, made a remark to the tourist which suggested she was waiting for the arrival of a child.
Mr Edgar, 52, told the 50 journalists from several countries: ‘It’s a strong lead. Madeleine could have been in Barcelona by this point. The fact the conversation took place near the marina could be significant.’
As a result of his appeal for information and the issuing of an e-fit image of the woman, the search switched to Australia, where a woman in Sydney made a statement to police claiming to know the identity of the mystery female seen in Barcelona, although this apparently came to nothing.




The Mail on Sunday, however, has established that members of Mr Edgar’s team who had visited Barcelona:

Failed to speak to anyone working at the seafood restaurant near where the agitated woman was seen at 2am.
Failed to ask the port authority about movement of boats around the time Madeleine disappeared.
Failed to ask if the mystery woman had been filmed on CCTV.
Knew nothing about the arrival of an Australian luxury yacht just after Madeleine vanished until told by British journalists, who gave them the captain’s mobile phone number.
Failed to interview anyone at a nearby dockside bar where, according to Mr Edgar, the mystery woman was later seen drinking.
Failed to ask British diplomats in Spain for advice before or during the visit.
Also, Spanish police could not confirm that they had been contacted by the British investigators.

Last night Mr Edgar said: ‘We are not above criticism and I take responsibility for any shortcomings. If somebody has not done what they should have done, that’s my job to deal with that.’


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1206842/Why-did-Madeleine-McCann-detectives-ask-questions.html#ixzz1mb9XtMQl



ETA - While SY are currently reviewing the case at great pubic cost, why are the McCanns continuing to promote their own 'investigation'. Anyone would think they are getting a little twitchy


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Re: So why did Madeleine McCann Detectives Ask So Few Questions?

Post  Angelique on Fri 17 Feb - 1:54

Autumn

If, as you state, they have made a new appeal for information about this "Victoria Beckham lookalike" one can only presume that they have been fishing around for something to engage the public and perhaps think they should appeal to the female gender (maybe they think they will be more responsive/sympathetic).

If this is the case it is possible they are feeling unsure about how the public may be reacting to the up-coming court cases.

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Re: So why did Madeleine McCann Detectives Ask So Few Questions?

Post  Autumn on Fri 17 Feb - 1:56



Cherry, I hope you've contacted Dave Edgar ....... Oh and tell him no shirking while on the job and you won't be happy til every cabbage patch doll has been thoroughly questioned!

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Re: So why did Madeleine McCann Detectives Ask So Few Questions?

Post  Autumn on Fri 17 Feb - 2:01

Angelique wrote:Autumn

If, as you state, they have made a new appeal for information about this "Victoria Beckham lookalike" one can only presume that they have been fishing around for something to engage the public and perhaps think they should appeal to the female gender (maybe they think they will be more responsive/sympathetic).

If this is the case it is possible they are feeling unsure about how the public may be reacting to the up-coming court cases.

Hi Angelique you could be onto something there. The most recent update on their FB Page gives prominence to the female 'sighting' but carries a link to their website which also invites the public to look for Eggman/Bundleman and Ugly Spotty Man. Confusion is good said Gerald and it don't get much more confusing than that!

ETA - they are turning the wall off early, perhaps something is afoot and they need to distract the sheeples with something. I think a new 'sighting' would raise suspicions so next best thing is to re-visit old 'sightings'.


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Re: So why did Madeleine McCann Detectives Ask So Few Questions?

Post  Autumn on Fri 17 Feb - 2:04



And as far as we know, Dave Edgar has ruled out none of the above. Infact I would be interested to know if he has commented on any of them or given updates about how his 'investigations' are going.

Will Dave Edgar ever get round to telling the public how his search of the underground lairs around PDL went? Even if Pat Brown finds nothing at least she is giving us regular updates about her search for Madeleine.

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Re: So why did Madeleine McCann Detectives Ask So Few Questions?

Post  Autumn on Fri 17 Feb - 2:26

Had to laugh at this advice offered to us by the McCs:


If possible, discreetly take video or photo evidence to be examined by the police.



I honestly think the only place you would be likely to see anything resembling the 'suspects' they have hi-lighted on their 'Spot the Abductor' Page would be in Ripleys Believe It Or Not Museum.

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Re: So why did Madeleine McCann Detectives Ask So Few Questions?

Post  NoStone on Fri 17 Feb - 3:01

Angelique wrote:Autumn

If, as you state, they have made a new appeal for information about this "Victoria Beckham lookalike" one can only presume that they have been fishing around for something to engage the public and perhaps think they should appeal to the female gender (maybe they think they will be more responsive/sympathetic).

If this is the case it is possible they are feeling unsure about how the public may be reacting to the up-coming court cases.

I think this is the case Angelique. They are probably wanting to have something out there to counter Pat's investigations - afterall - they cannot be seen to be asking for money to find Madeleine - trousering that money whilst SY do all the work and an American Crime Profiler goes out to Portugal to try and pick up leads. We have had a - slag Amaral - campaign of late in case the news broke that Pat had teamed up with him, setting up an indirect swipe at her. As much as they would like to - they dare not mention her direcctly for fear of giving her publicity or adding to her case against them.

I love it when the Mc's have been painted into a corner - they come out fighting with drivel!!! Yuk! - messy!!!

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Post  Christina on Fri 17 Feb - 3:48

Ignore. Deleted because it's in a post up there!

So why bring up this again when she was already identified? Odd..

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Post  tanszi on Fri 17 Feb - 12:16

i know its really strange, the victoria beckham look alike was identified.

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Post  wjk on Fri 17 Feb - 13:04

Is this a new appeal?

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Post  Autumn on Fri 17 Feb - 13:12

wjk wrote:Is this a new appeal?

Well it was posted by them or their spokesperson on their FB Page yesterday so I would say it's a new appeal wjk.

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Post  wjk on Fri 17 Feb - 13:30

Autumn wrote:
wjk wrote:Is this a new appeal?

Well it was posted by them or their spokesperson on their FB Page yesterday so I would say it's a new appeal wjk.

Thanks Autumn
OMG! scrapping the barrel again, I see.

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Post  Autumn on Fri 17 Feb - 13:51

wjk wrote:
Autumn wrote:
wjk wrote:Is this a new appeal?

Well it was posted by them or their spokesperson on their FB Page yesterday so I would say it's a new appeal wjk.

Thanks Autumn
OMG! scrapping the barrel again, I see.


Distraction tactics while Pat is searching for their daughter but, even by TM standards, this smacks of desperation.


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Post  squeaker on Fri 17 Feb - 17:18

I would like to know why the McCanns were asked so few questions (none, to be precise) when all their friends were re-interviewed in England.

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Re: So why did Madeleine McCann Detectives Ask So Few Questions?

Post  cherry1 on Fri 17 Feb - 18:05

Autumn I dont think that Edgar could even find a cabbage in a cabbage patch let alone anything else!

I dont know why the Mccanns had to shell out so much money on searching when they must have seen that the Ruud Gullit lookalike was standing a short way from them at the Everton FC match they went to, and they couldnt have missed him cos he was there with his twin brother! I would suggest that Edgar needs to be searching for an Everton supporter!


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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 17 Feb - 20:19

That is so weird. The 'witness,' came forward two years after the supposed encounter, the McCanns detectives did very little to investigate it, and nearly three more years on, they're highlighting this! WTF!!!!

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Post  jay2001 on Fri 17 Feb - 20:27

Is this all they can come up with? The story was stupid and bizarre the first time round. The Mail did a good report and showed how pathetic the story was because Edgar never asked any questions. And the barmy bloke who started the whole episode must've been in a coma for years.

The Mail must've been 'got at' because they could've followed this up. I thought it did turn out that the woman was a wealthy Australian and knew Rupert Murkydoc. There are more twists and tales in this sorry saga than that road in San Francisco!

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Post  malena stool on Fri 17 Feb - 20:38

Autumn wrote:

And as far as we know, Dave Edgar has ruled out none of the above. Infact I would be interested to know if he has commented on any of them or given updates about how his 'investigations' are going.

Will Dave Edgar ever get round to telling the public how his search of the underground lairs around PDL went? Even if Pat Brown finds nothing at least she is giving us regular updates about her search for Madeleine.
This gallery of 20 allegedly suspected abductors is representative of the entire Northern European population from Humpty Dumpty to Spotty Muldoon with a Kate McCann lookalike thrown in for good measure. Should a real police force, instead of second rate and retired plods paying lip service to litigation happy child neglectors, were presenting such a variation of shaped and sized persons of interest our courts would be full, lawyers becoming richer on claims for wrongful arrest and the media would have a field day regarding police incompetence.....

Especially when Dippy Dave knows to within a 5K radius where Madeleine is being held by Portuguese brigands.

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Post  Autumn on Fri 17 Feb - 20:39

McCann search woman 'identified'

Investigators called the lead "significant"
A woman in Australia has told police that she knows who the woman being sought by private investigators searching for Madeleine McCann is.
Australia's federal police will examine the woman's statement.
On Thursday, detectives hired by Madeleine's parents said they wanted to trace a "Victoria Beckham lookalike" with an Australian accent.
Madeleine, of Rothley, Leicestershire, was three when she went missing from a holiday flat in Portugal on 3 May 2007.
The woman is being sought because of something she said to a British man who met her in Barcelona 72 hours after Madeleine went missing.
A statement issued by New South Wales police said that a woman from Sydney had made a formal statement.
It went on: "She claims to know the identity of the woman being sought by the private investigators attached to the McCann family




Perhaps someone needs to wake up Dozy Dave Edgar and tell the woman was identified and ruled out a couple of years ago.

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Post  T4two on Fri 17 Feb - 20:59

jay2001 wrote:Is this all they can come up with? The story was stupid and bizarre the first time round. The Mail did a good report and showed how pathetic the story was because Edgar never asked any questions. And the barmy bloke who started the whole episode must've been in a coma for years.

The Mail must've been 'got at' because they could've followed this up. I thought it did turn out that the woman was a wealthy Australian and knew Rupert Murkydoc. There are more twists and tales in this sorry saga than that road in San Francisco!

Correct. The whole thing with this Victoria Beckham lookalike was solved. Nonetheless it was dragged up again by one of the tabloids recently following a Scotland Yard visit to Barcelona where they are alleged to have been following up this 'lead' and to have also carted off loads of files from Metado. Coincidence?


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Post  Autumn on Fri 17 Feb - 21:03

Family distraught at abduction 'link' and say hunt is ludicrous.

Madeleine McCann detectives aim to interview a millionairess after a yacht at the centre of the inquiry into the child's disappearance was traced.

Melissa Karlson's mother owns the £6million vessel that docked in Barcelona hours before a mystery woman asked a British tourist: "Are you here to deliver my new daughter?"

But the family of the 31-year-old Australian, daughter of £250million socialite Rhonda Wyllie, 52, yesterday told the Sunday Mirror any suggestion the vessel was involved with the abduction or the mystery woman was "ludicrous".

The team hunting three-year-old Madeleine had believed that the mystery powerboat could provide a breakthrough.

Flying an Australian flag, it was seen in Barcelona three days after she vanished in Praia da Luz, Portugal.

Records show the 105ft boat arrived just hours before a woman – said to look like Posh Spice Victoria Beckham – approached a British bank executive and asked: "Are you here to deliver my daughter?"

The woman was described as slim and "glamorous", aged 30 to 35, about 5ft 2ins tall, with short spiky brown hair and speaking with an Australian accent. The luxury Sunseeker vessel, called Will Power, was reportedly the only vessel out of nine unaccounted for by Maddie investigators.

It was moored in Barcelona from 12.40pm on May 6, 2007, and left on the 9th for an unknown destination.

Investigators are keen to speak to Mrs Karlson, who runs her mother's investment group, and Mrs Wyllie to rule them out.

A source close to the investigation told the Sunday Mirror: "We have been told about the daughter of the owner of this boat and are aware of who she is. We understand she's currently in Perth, Australia, and will be keen to speak to her to eliminate her from our inquiries."

The family last night said they were "distraught" to have been linked to the Madeleine case but would happily cooperate with police.


Mrs Karlson, married to fashion wholesaler Jamie, is the managing director of Wyllie Group, her mother's company. Wyllie Group company director Craig Coleman, speaking on behalf of Mrs Karlson, said from his home in Perth: "This is the most ridiculous speculation I have ever heard. It's ludicrous."

It came as investigators working for Madeleine's parents Kate and Gerry McCann, both 41, from Rothley, Leics, had received dozens of names linked to the e-fit released last week. More than 600 phone calls have been made by people who saw the image.

The couple's spokesman Clarence Mitchell said the team would be working their way through the names given to identify them.

A woman in Australia yesterday claimed to know the Posh Spice lookalike as Madeleine mania swept the country but the report turned out to be false.

It emerged that an investigator had already reportedly mounted an Australian surveillance operation.

Undercover detectives have been watching a number of individuals in Australia for several months after a tip-off that Madeleine was smuggled there.

But Australian Federal Police have said they are not involved in looking for Madeleine and have not been approached by the McCanns.

Ms Karlson started as a trainee accountant in her father Bill's property development company before becoming MD in 2005, six months before his death.

She reportedly celebrated her 30th birthday with a big bash at the luxurious Legian Hotel in Bali in March last year. It is understood celebrity guests were flown in for the night.

Widow Mrs Wyllie, a non-executive director of Wyllie Group, is on Will Power, cruising in the Mediterranean, a spokesman said.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id263.html

Yet another innocent person being dragged into this madness. What a dreadful experience for this lady and her family.




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Post  matthew on Fri 17 Feb - 21:26

Ludicrous...ludicrous...

talk about going around the corner on a straight road...a cadaver was known to have been in contact in gerry & kates bedroom wardrobe & behind their sofa that was pushed up to the window...look no further sy ffs

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Post  matthew on Fri 17 Feb - 21:39

cherry1 wrote:Autumn I dont think that Edgar could even find a cabbage in a cabbage patch let alone anything else!

I dont know why the Mccanns had to shell out so much money on searching when they must have seen that the Ruud Gullit lookalike was standing a short way from them at the Everton FC match they went to, and they couldnt have missed him cos he was there with his twin brother! I would suggest that Edgar needs to be searching for an Everton supporter!


duncanmac will tell you this is marouane fellaini...someone around goodison done a roaring trade selling the fellaini wig



i would haul this lot in for questioning...for starters

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Post  malena stool on Fri 17 Feb - 21:46

If nothing else the reports of SY following up on these 'Old Leads' shows that every item of so called 'info' the likes of Metodo 3, Dave Edgar and Kevin Halligen have been involved with, no matter how childishly stupid is being professionally scrutinized.

Who knows, the reams of laughably idiotic McCann and Mitchell statements and coupled with the la la land leads they flooded the media with may well work against them in the light of their continued and relentless harassment of Dr Amaral.

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Post  Autumn on Fri 17 Feb - 22:09


Madeleine - the Latest But Not Very Much Sky News

Martin Brunt
August 07, 2009 10:20 AM


The latest Madeleine appeal is intriguing and shouldn't be ignored.

But I can't help question the credibility of a brief conversation outside a Spanish bar at 2am between a British man on a stag night and an agitated Aussie woman. And it was more than two years ago and was not reported at the time.

But the McCanns' private investigator, ex-RUC detective Dave Edgar, is the expert and he feels it's worth pursuing then surely it is?

He batted away most questions at his press conference and left most unanswered, though more details - how the woman asked the man "have you got the child?" - have emerged from other sources since.

A colleague who covered Northern Ireland affairs for many years called me to say it was not the first time an Ulster policeman had called a media conference and then said very little.

In fact, Belfast hacks rarely expected anything else.





http://www.mccannfiles.com/id263.html

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