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Post  Annabel on Thu 5 Apr - 16:15

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/assange-likens-coverage-to-mccanns-16140879.html#ixzz1rAsAjmX0

Thursday, 5 April 2012


WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange made a written statement to the Leveson Inquiry

Julian Assange claimed he has suffered from inaccurate and negative media coverage "possibly on a scale not seen since the abuse of the McCanns".
The WikiLeaks founder criticised newspaper and magazine watchdog the Press Complaints Commission (PCC) for its handling of his complaints.

In a written statement to the Leveson Inquiry, Assange suggested that inaccurate reporting of his case had an impact on his battle against extradition to Sweden to face sex crime allegations.

He compared himself to Kate and Gerry McCann, who were the subject of many negative articles after Portuguese police temporarily made them "arguidos" or formal suspects in the disappearance of their daughter Madeleine in May 2007.

He wrote: "Those who have been the subject of ongoing, widespread inaccurate and negative media coverage - as I have, possibly on a scale not seen since the abuse of the McCanns - know that the harms created for individuals and small organisations or groups by a failure to maintain high ethical journalistic standards can be severe, consequential and almost insurmountable."

Assange said the PCC ruled it was "perfectly acceptable" to say he had been charged with rape when in fact he has only been accused of the offence.

He said in his statement: "The PCC's clear failure to enforce proper standards of accuracy and fairness - indeed, its reluctance to act and to adhere to its own guidelines because of the active case against me - comes at a time when, due to the number of other of our legal cases already in play and my grave personal circumstances under house arrest awaiting a Supreme Court extradition decision, my ability to achieve justice through libel actions at the moment when they are needed is severely curtailed."

He added: "Press falsehoods need to be disincentivised or they will flourish. Unfortunately, the Press Complaints Commission does not provide effective disincentives or corrective remedies for victims. Neither, in many cases, do the courts due to the expense of libel actions."

Assange, an Australian former computer hacker, made headlines around the world with revelations from secret US military files and diplomatic cables released by his controversial whistle-blowing website WikiLeaks.

He is waiting to hear the outcome of his appeal to the Supreme Court, the highest court in the land, against being extradited to Sweden.




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Re: Assange likens coverage to McCanns

Post  dazedandconfused on Thu 5 Apr - 18:35

I thought it was wikileaks who cast doubts on the innocence of the McCanns. Has Julian Assange had a re-think?

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Re: Assange likens coverage to McCanns

Post  Lillyofthevalley on Thu 5 Apr - 20:05

I think he is desperate, so decided to jump sides and cling to what he believes is the right move, that the gullable public support the McCanns, and they will now put all their support behind him, if he jumps on the McCann sinking ship, obviously Assange dosen't relise most people have woken upto the McCanns and there turn of events in PDL on the 3rd May 2007....

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Post  matthew on Thu 5 Apr - 20:13

dazedandconfused wrote:I thought it was wikileaks who cast doubts on the innocence of the McCanns. Has Julian Assange had a re-think?

The latest WikiLeaks cables reveal that British police helped "develop" evidence against Madeleine McCann's parents after their daughter's disappearance.
Britain's ambassador to Portugal, Alexander Wykeham Ellis, reportedly made the claim to his American counterpart on September 21, 2007 – two weeks after Portuguese police named Gerry and Kate McCann as suspects.
In a diplomatic cable marked confidential, the US ambassador reported: "Without delving into the details of the case, Ellis admitted that the British police had developed the current evidence against the McCann parents, and he stressed that authorities from both countries were working co-operatively."
Those who blame the McCanns may leap on this as new evidence that it wasn't just the Portuguse authorities who suspected the coulpe. However, it was well known at the time that British police contributed to the investigation. We provided the cadaver dog to search the appartment. Our Forensic Science Service provided the scientific evidence which led to the arrests and the subsequent speculation.
It was much later when the FSS report was released, among all the other police documents, that we could read for ourselves that scientists had advised the Portuguse police that the forensic evidence was inconclusive.
The McCanns remained under suspicion until July 2008 when Portuguese police shelved the inquiry into Madeleine's disappearance.
A spokesman for the McCanns dismissed the leak as an "historic note" and said the Portuguese had since made it clear there was no evidence to implicate the couple.

not enough??




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Re: Assange likens coverage to McCanns

Post  almostgothic on Thu 5 Apr - 20:19

It could be that Assange sees Wikileaks as a neutral conduit, bringing in the info without commenting on it.
I'm guessing that he was casting around for names of people he thought had been 'wronged' as much as he had - and came up with the McCanns. Maybe on another day he might have picked someone else ...

Or maybe he just doesn't read every single leak that comes his way. ...

Just as strange, we find that Kate McCann has signed the legal aid bill letter alongside Robert Murat.

Robert Murat.
The bloke she wanted to kill.

There seems to be a 'strange bedfellows' thang going on at the moment.

Funny old world, innit?

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Re: Assange likens coverage to McCanns

Post  jinvta on Thu 5 Apr - 22:47

Lillyofthevalley wrote:I think he is desperate, so decided to jump sides and cling to what he believes is the right move, that the gullable public support the McCanns, and they will now put all their support behind him, if he jumps on the McCann sinking ship, obviously Assange dosen't relise most people have woken upto the McCanns and there turn of events in PDL on the 3rd May 2007....

Agree 100%. Ass-who? Who cares? Wasn't he claiming that the US was planning to try him for espionage or treason? Yah, like that happened. Total buffoon. He is not doing himself any favors by aligning himself with the McCanns.

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Post  Annabel on Fri 6 Apr - 7:36

Gonçalo Amaral on Wikileaks release regarding the McCann Affair

14 December 2010 | Posted by Joana Morais

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2010/12/goncalo-amaral-on-wikileaks-release.html

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Re: Assange likens coverage to McCanns

Post  pennylane on Fri 6 Apr - 8:30

jinvta wrote:
Lillyofthevalley wrote:I think he is desperate, so decided to jump sides and cling to what he believes is the right move, that the gullable public support the McCanns, and they will now put all their support behind him, if he jumps on the McCann sinking ship, obviously Assange dosen't relise most people have woken upto the McCanns and there turn of events in PDL on the 3rd May 2007....

Agree 100%. Ass-who? Who cares? Wasn't he claiming that the US was planning to try him for espionage or treason? Yah, like that happened. Total buffoon. He is not doing himself any favors by aligning himself with the McCanns.

I agree jinvta. He's in jolly good company actually, since all three of them are desperate to avoid justice for their past crimes!

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Post  NoStone on Fri 6 Apr - 9:36

I thought this was an intelligent man bt he's dropped so far in my estimation that he's fallen out the bottom. As aggrieved as he might feel - aligning himself with the pathetic Mc's moves him down a couple of divisions of a full pack I am afraid.

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Post  Lioned on Thu 16 Aug - 16:51

Offcourse Assange can winge and whine as much as he likes about the rough treatment He and the mccanns are getting from the press but now he has gone into hiding in the Ecuadorian embassy and obtained 'asylum' and complained about his Human rights and the numerous protestors outside complaining about 'Human rights'.Some may be also a bit concerned about the Human rights of the Women in Sweden that he is alleged to have raped ! Though i havn't heard much about that so far.More people seem to be concerned about his welfare and what might happen if he is extradited to Sweden,which after all is a country very well known for its Barbarism isnt it ?

We have complained in here plenty about kate mccann not answering questions now here is a man hiding in the embassy of pretty much a third World country refusing to answer to allegations of rape !

And as far as his wiki leaks is concerned well very interesting some may be but some may also be matters of National security that shouldnt be advertised on the internet.


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Post  Oldartform on Thu 16 Aug - 18:22

I wouldn`t let this statement of his deter from the fact that Julian has been working to expose all the atrocities and corruption in governments that most of us here despise. He should be praised. Watch his interview by David Frost to realise his intentions are good and that he is being set-up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6mcSXge4Qo

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Post  pennylane on Thu 16 Aug - 18:28

Lioned wrote:Offcourse Assange can winge and whine as much as he likes about the rough treatment He and the mccanns are getting from the press but now he has gone into hiding in the Equedorian embassy and obtained 'asylum' and complained about his Human rights and the numerous protestors outside complaining about 'Human rights'.Some may be also a bit concerned about the Human rights of the Women in Sweden that he is alleged to have raped ! Though i havn't heard much about that so far.More people seem to be concerned about his welfare and what might happen if he is extradited to Sweden,which after all is a country very well known for its Barbarism isnt it ?

We have complained in here plenty about kate mccann not answering questions now here is a man hiding in the embassy of pretty much a third World country refusing to answer to allegations of rape !

And as far as his wiki leaks is concerned well very interesting some may be but some may also be matters of National security that shouldnt be advertised on the internet.

Lioned, I agree with your sentiments from beginning to end!

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Post  Lioned on Thu 16 Aug - 18:45

Fact is he's been accused of rape and he is refusing to answer the charges and gone into hiding in an embassy known for its anti USA jingoism.You can drum up as much America phobia as you like and he's playing on it.Sweden is where the assaults on two women are alleged to have taken place and thats where he should be going to clear his name.
Apart from that playing the 'poor poor mccann' card dont work for me either.

Also i should add that we havn't heard too much support from the Australians either have we ?

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Post  pennylane on Thu 16 Aug - 19:06

Lioned wrote:Fact is he's been accused of rape and he is refusing to answer the charges and gone into hiding in an embassy known for its anti USA jingoism.You can drum up as much America phobia as you like and he's playing on it.Sweden is where the assaults on two women are alleged to have taken place and thats where he should be going to clear his name.
Apart from that playing the 'poor poor mccann' card dont work for me either.

Also i should add that we havn't heard too much support from the Australians either have we ?

Amen!

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Post  jinvta on Thu 16 Aug - 19:51

Agreed, Assange is a complete joke and expects special treatment for himself above all others. Nobody should be above the law. The US could not care less about him and is no way going to torture him or send him to Guantanamo Bay as he ridiculously alleges. He is all pomp and circumstance just like the McCanns. Private Manning is the one the US wants to punish as he was in a position of trust. He will get what he deserves and his punishment will serve as a deterrant to others in his position.

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Post  want the truth on Thu 16 Aug - 23:05

Oldartform wrote:I wouldn`t let this statement of his deter from the fact that Julian has been working to expose all the atrocities and corruption in governments that most of us here despise. He should be praised. Watch his interview by David Frost to realise his intentions are good and that he is being set-up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6mcSXge4Qo

I agree Oldartform. I think there is a risk here that he is being judged 'guilty'. There are two sides to every story. It is quite possible that it is a set up to get him to Sweden, and then disappeared to the USA. He has been quite prepared to answer any questions, but on UK territory. The Swedish women involved are adults and were sleeping with him, even boasting about it. He didn't leap out from a street door way, grab them, rape them and run.

He has released info about corruption at the highest levels and may know more. The soldier involved in delivering the material has been found to have been kept in 'inhumane' conditions, if the reports I have read are correct.

Are we saying he should go to Sweden and then we would be shocked to discover that he has irretrievably been shipped off to USA.

Caution here, I feel. If the McCann case isn't evidence enough, in our opinions, that 'set ups / cover ups' are possible, and high levels of interest can use spin to make people look either whiter than white or blacker than black. AIMO of course.


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Post  Fern on Fri 17 Aug - 12:26

want the truth wrote:
Oldartform wrote:I wouldn`t let this statement of his deter from the fact that Julian has been working to expose all the atrocities and corruption in governments that most of us here despise. He should be praised. Watch his interview by David Frost to realise his intentions are good and that he is being set-up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6mcSXge4Qo

I agree Oldartform. I think there is a risk here that he is being judged 'guilty'. There are two sides to every story. It is quite possible that it is a set up to get him to Sweden, and then disappeared to the USA. He has been quite prepared to answer any questions, but on UK territory. The Swedish women involved are adults and were sleeping with him, even boasting about it. He didn't leap out from a street door way, grab them, rape them and run.

He has released info about corruption at the highest levels and may know more. The soldier involved in delivering the material has been found to have been kept in 'inhumane' conditions, if the reports I have read are correct.

Are we saying he should go to Sweden and then we would be shocked to discover that he has irretrievably been shipped off to USA.

Caution here, I feel. If the McCann case isn't evidence enough, in our opinions, that 'set ups / cover ups' are possible, and high levels of interest can use spin to make people look either whiter than white or blacker than black. AIMO of course.


Excellent post.


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Post  Wallflower on Fri 17 Aug - 14:16

want the truth wrote:
Oldartform wrote:I wouldn`t let this statement of his deter from the fact that Julian has been working to expose all the atrocities and corruption in governments that most of us here despise. He should be praised. Watch his interview by David Frost to realise his intentions are good and that he is being set-up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6mcSXge4Qo

I agree Oldartform. I think there is a risk here that he is being judged 'guilty'. There are two sides to every story. It is quite possible that it is a set up to get him to Sweden, and then disappeared to the USA. He has been quite prepared to answer any questions, but on UK territory. The Swedish women involved are adults and were sleeping with him, even boasting about it. He didn't leap out from a street door way, grab them, rape them and run.

He has released info about corruption at the highest levels and may know more. The soldier involved in delivering the material has been found to have been kept in 'inhumane' conditions, if the reports I have read are correct.

Are we saying he should go to Sweden and then we would be shocked to discover that he has irretrievably been shipped off to USA.

Caution here, I feel. If the McCann case isn't evidence enough, in our opinions, that 'set ups / cover ups' are possible, and high levels of interest can use spin to make people look either whiter than white or blacker than black. AIMO of course.


I agree.

T think it's quite plausible that the US wants to make an example of him, so that in future any whistle blowers will think twice before they release info which puts their admistration or military or diplomatic services in a bad light. And perhaps all those who think that the idea of Assange being treated badly if he's extradited to the US should have a read of how Bradley Manning is being kept over there.

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Post  Lioned on Fri 17 Aug - 15:49

So we just ignore the pleas of the women who say they've been raped then ? And Sweden is a country not to be trusted to seek justice one way or the other because they are in cohoots with the brutal Americans ?

And why didnt Assange take refuge in the Australian embassy are they untrustworthy also ?

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Post  kitti on Fri 17 Aug - 16:07

Who are these two women?


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Post  kitti on Fri 17 Aug - 16:17

So what happened? Here is the short version. August, 2009. Julian Assange (39) meets Anna Ardin (31) she offers him to stay at her place. They had dinner, went back to the flat and had sex. A condom ripped. Anna Ardin had a party the next day and twittered that she is together with “the world’s coolest smartest people, it’s amazing!” (censored now by Ardin). Link to Anna Ardins Twitter Account.

Julian Assange visited a seminar in Stockholm. The civil servant Sofia Wilén (20+) drove all the way to Stockholm to see Assange because she admires Assange (Police protocol). Assange went out for dinner, Sofia Wilén asked if she can join him. They went to Anna Ardins Party, mentioned above. After the party they agreed to drive to Wiléns flat 40 kilometer away in Enköping. She paid for the tickets, because Assange was afraid to lay tracks. They had sex with a condom, the next morning without. They had breakfast together and Assange went back to Stockholm. Wilén told the police later that she was “distracted” because Assange refused to use a condom the second time.

A couple of days later after Enköping: Wilén called Ardin in Stockholm and told her she had unprotected sex with Assange. Ardin said similar things happened to her. Both agreed to sue Assange.

How are Ardin and Wilén related? Their SMS texts to each other show a plan to contact the Swedish newspaper Expressen beforehand in order to maximise the damage to Assange. They belong to the same political group and attended a public lecture given by Assange and organised by them. Source: crikey.com.au

Ardin posted in her blog an article “7 Steps to Legal Revenge” on 19th January 2010. She censored the posting in her blog later, even though she writes now “Nothing is removed or hidden or altered”. Another lie. Read Anna Ardins Blog Post

Anna Ardin Video:



Here is the part of her blog post she deleted after the whole thing went public. It’s in swedish and translated into english:

Steg 1 / Step 1

Tänk igenom väldigt noga om du verkligen ska hämnas.

Consider very carefully if you really must take revenge.

Det är nästan alltid bättre att förlåta än att hämnas

It is almost always better to forgive than to avenge

Steg 2 / Step 2

Tänk igenom varför du ska hämnas. Think about why you want revenge. Du behöver alltså inte bara vara på det klara med vem du ska hämnas på utan också varför. Hämnd ska aldrig riktas mot bara en person, utan även möta en viss handling.

You need to be clear about who to take revenge on, as well as why. Revenge is never directed against only one person, but also the actions of the person.

Steg 3 / Step 3

Proportionalitetsprincipen.

The principle of proportionality.

Kom ihåg att hämnden inte bara ska matcha dådet i storlek utan även i art.

Remember that revenge will not only match the deed in size but also in nature.

En bra hämnd är kopplad till det som gjorts mot dig.

A good revenge is linked to what has been done against you.

Om du till exempel vill hämnas på någon som varit otrogen eller som dumpat dig, så bör straffet ha något med dejting/sex/trohet att göra.

For example if you want revenge on someone who cheated or who dumped you, you should use a punishment with dating/sex/fidelity involved.

Steg 4 / Step 4

Gör en brainstorm kring lämpliga åtgärder för kategorin av hämnd du är ute efter. För att fortsätta exemplet ovan så kan du paja ditt offers nuvarande relation, fixa så att dennes nye partner är otrogen eller se till att han får en galning efter sig.

Do a brainstorm of appropriate measures for the category of revenge you’re after. To continue the example above, you can sabotage your victim’s current relationship, such as getting his new partner to be unfaithful or ensure that he gets a madman after him.

Använd din fantasi!

Use your imagination!

Steg 5 / Step 5

Tänk ut hur du kan hämnas systematiskt.

Figure out how you can systematically take revenge.

Kanske kan en serie brev och foton som får den nya att tro att ni ännu ses bättre än bara en stor lögn vid ett enstaka tillfälle?

Send your victim a series of letters and photographs that make your victim’s new partner believe that you are still together which is better than to tell just one big lie on one single occasion

Steg 6 / Step 6

Ranka dina systematiska hämndscheman från låg till hög i termer av troligt lyckat genomförande, krävd insats från dig samt grad av tillfredsställelse om du lyckas.

Rank your systematic revenge schemes from low to high in terms of likely success, required input from you, and degree of satisfaction when you succeed.

Den ideala hämnden ligger givetvis så högt som möjligt i dessa staplar, men ofta kan en ökad insats av arbete och kapital ge säkrare output för de andra två, egentligen viktigare parametrarna.

The ideal, of course, is a revenge as strong as possible but this requires a lot of hard work and effort for it to turn out exactly as you want it to.

Step 7 / Step 7

Skrid till verket. Get to work. Och kom ihåg vilket ditt mål är medan du opererar, se till att ditt offer får lida på samma sätt som han fick dig att lida.

And remember what your goals are while you are operating, ensure that your victim will suffer the same way as he made you suffer.

Responses to her readers comments are fun to read, too:

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Post  Lioned on Fri 17 Aug - 17:45

Not sure the witerings of 'crikey.com' will be admisable in court,sounds like another spotty 14 year old with a grudge against the Americans cos they blew up the twin towers.We have many things to thank the Americans for some may wish to remember.If we were back in 1940 then Manning would certainly have been shot by now and rightly so for putting our troops lives at risk.And those who think the muslims are after our freedom can maybe seek asylem in Ecuador as well ! Assange is wanted in Sweden and thats where he's going and then we will find out what he's been up to with all these girls of the night.

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Post  kitti on Fri 17 Aug - 17:50

Both girls slept with him and both girls didn't know that the other had.....

When they did.....

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Post  kitti on Fri 17 Aug - 17:52

You won't find out anything about the so called rape case because he will be extradited before it ever sees the light off day.

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Post  Wallflower on Fri 17 Aug - 18:03

Lioned wrote:So we just ignore the pleas of the women who say they've been raped then ? And Sweden is a country not to be trusted to seek justice one way or the other because they are in cohoots with the brutal Americans ?

And why didnt Assange take refuge in the Australian embassy are they untrustworthy also ?

Lioned, you seem to have the strange idea that it is only "third world countries" and their governments that can't be trusted.

We have complained in here plenty about kate mccann not answering questions now here is a man hiding in the embassy of pretty much a third World country refusing to answer to allegations of rape !

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