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Post  tigger on Thu 19 Apr - 14:25

tigger wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
tigger wrote:From Jillhavernforum: topic: Robert Murat's role.
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4. Right from early on 4 May, Murat became a translator for the Portuguese Police. In that position, he obtained information about the investigation, he put forward theories to the police, he suggested investigation strategies to them, and he was observed trying to read confidential investigation documents. These matters were made the subject of a report expressing serious concerns by one of the Inspectors to his seniors.

5. We know from Amaral’s book that a team from CEOP (or certainly including men from CEOP), described by Amaral as ‘profilers’, had by the weekend of 12/13 May not only come up with the profile of a likely abductor, but said that they were ‘90% sure’ [Amaral’s chapter on Murat] that Murat was the man they all were looking for. It is worth noting that they all focussed on the ‘fact’ that Madeleine had been abducted and it is obvious that these men from CEOP were not considering other possibilities.
unquote.

From 'The truth of the lie' by G Amaral:


His behaviour starts to seriously intrigue us. He often makes reference to similar cases that happened in the United Kingdom and which he seems to know in detail. He displays suspicious curiosity and seeks to know more. He offers to help us identify possible suspects. He knows the workings of the Ocean Club and the habits of the holiday-makers very well. He even, allegedly, tried secretly to access the investigation files. It is also known that he visits web sites of a pornographic nature.

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Tigger, none of that makes Robert Murat "guilty after the fact." Suspicion was thrown on him, but none of the searches uncovered anything. We need to be careful about what we say here. And please remind me of the subject of this thread. Is it Robert Murat?

That's why I started with 'I think' but in future I will only use IMO.
Re the wandering off topic: I answered Kathybelle's post without realizing that we'd gone off topic. So sorry for that.
The phone records also implicate Murat, not just imo. The mud slinging re his personal life is unfortunately what happens - I'm sure that most of those stories - I read some which are really in the realm of fantasy - are completely untrue.
I've simply stuck with available evidence, such as the phone record, the PJ noticing him looking at documents, his many corrections on his movements in the first few days of May when questioned by the PJ and the two meetings with Brian Kennedy prior to the Rothley meeting in November.
I'm not surprised nothing was found to incriminate him. IMO he only facilitated, possibly by having the keys to an empty apartment or villa.
IMO again - we're of course still off topic here unfortunately - like most of the tapas 7, he helped 'after the fact' - most likely acting on incorrect information, to put it kindly.
I have no doubt that he is trying to live a normal life and is very fond of his daughter. Like others, he's been caught up in the maelstrom of the event. But IMO he does know more than he can afford to tell.

Would posters please note the bolded sentence above. That is the evidence I'm talking about.
The pornography is mentioned in a piece translated by AnnaEsse herself from Amaral's book. I never mentioned pornography or highlighted it.
It just happens to be in that paragraph I quoted re his looking at confidential documents.

That's what I was asked to substantiate. And I did. IMO.


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Re: The latest "pretendy" sighting of Maddy in Spain.....

Post  fred on Thu 19 Apr - 14:38

Wasn't it proved that the mccanns knew Robert before as when they were children, kate and robert were bridesmaid and pageboy at a wedding together?

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Thu 19 Apr - 14:43

I can safely say that I have never heard of that claim before Fred and it will be interesting to see if anyone can substantiate it.

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Post  tanszi on Thu 19 Apr - 15:05

oops tigger i wasnt remonstrating with you, was just responding to posts.

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Re: The latest "pretendy" sighting of Maddy in Spain.....

Post  tigger on Thu 19 Apr - 16:00

tanszi wrote:oops tigger i wasnt remonstrating with you, was just responding to posts.



Thank you! I was doing my level best to demonstrate I based my theory on known facts in the public domain. Which I think I have provided. Meanwhile I seem to be responsible for derailing the topic - I replied to a post about Murat here ... now it's nothing but Murat, it's about pornography and still in the wrong topic...

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Re: The latest "pretendy" sighting of Maddy in Spain.....

Post  ann_chovey on Thu 19 Apr - 16:27

Not Born Yesterday wrote:I can safely say that I have never heard of that claim before Fred and it will be interesting to see if anyone can substantiate it.

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/mccann-tapas-seven-friends-win-375-000-damages

scroll to comments, I've read this before.


McCanns and co have relatives in Blackburn Lancashire they are Mary and Martin Walsh, 239 St. James Road, Blackburn, Lancashire. Kate McCann (Healy) was a bridesmaid in 1975 at Paul and Maureen Beneduce wedding here in Blackburn, Paul Beneduce has a sister called Antonietta Beneduce, Antonietta married John Campbell in 1978 here in Blackburn. I went to Antonietta Wedding. Paul and Maureen Beneduce have two daughters, Antonietta and John Campbell have a son and daughter. Robert Murat is related to the Beneduce's, and has relatives in Blackburn and Darwen


Continue reading at NowPublic.com: McCann 'Tapas Seven' friends win £375,000 in damages | NowPublic News Coverage http://www.nowpublic.com/world/mccann-tapas-seven-friends-win-375-000-damages#ixzz1sV4gHpW4

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Post  matthew on Thu 19 Apr - 16:37

In everyones defence its hard to stay on topic when the topic is a sighting of Madeleine,we know from Eddie that its an impossibility


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Re: The latest "pretendy" sighting of Maddy in Spain.....

Post  jd16 on Thu 19 Apr - 16:57

tigger wrote: Meanwhile I seem to be responsible for derailing the topic - I replied to a post about Murat here ... now it's nothing but Murat, it's about pornography and still in the wrong topic...

AnnaEsse....could we merge all the Murat posts in this topic into a previous Murat topic or something? as there is very interesting info and discussions which would be good to easily refer to in the future. Thanks

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Post  jd16 on Thu 19 Apr - 16:58

ann_chovey wrote:

McCanns and co have relatives in Blackburn Lancashire they are Mary and Martin Walsh, 239 St. James Road, Blackburn, Lancashire. Kate McCann (Healy) was a bridesmaid in 1975 at Paul and Maureen Beneduce wedding here in Blackburn, Paul Beneduce has a sister called Antonietta Beneduce, Antonietta married John Campbell in 1978 here in Blackburn. I went to Antonietta Wedding. Paul and Maureen Beneduce have two daughters, Antonietta and John Campbell have a son and daughter. Robert Murat is related to the Beneduce's, and has relatives in Blackburn and Darwen

Ive followed up on this story before and it is a hoax

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Post  Lillyofthevalley on Thu 19 Apr - 20:08

No probs tigger, I understood from your post dont worry

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Re: The latest "pretendy" sighting of Maddy in Spain.....

Post  tigger on Thu 19 Apr - 20:14

Lillyofthevalley wrote:No probs tigger, I understood from your post dont worry

That is cute!

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Re: The latest "pretendy" sighting of Maddy in Spain.....

Post  Autumn on Thu 19 Apr - 20:31

jd16 wrote:
ann_chovey wrote:

McCanns and co have relatives in Blackburn Lancashire they are Mary and Martin Walsh, 239 St. James Road, Blackburn, Lancashire. Kate McCann (Healy) was a bridesmaid in 1975 at Paul and Maureen Beneduce wedding here in Blackburn, Paul Beneduce has a sister called Antonietta Beneduce, Antonietta married John Campbell in 1978 here in Blackburn. I went to Antonietta Wedding. Paul and Maureen Beneduce have two daughters, Antonietta and John Campbell have a son and daughter. Robert Murat is related to the Beneduce's, and has relatives in Blackburn and Darwen

Ive followed up on this story before and it is a hoax

Yes I've seen this before and not sure what to make of it. Jd16, wondering what you found out to come to the conclusion it was a hoax? If your searches have drawn a blank it may well be info has been whooshed from the net like so many other things.

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Post  malena stool on Thu 19 Apr - 21:52

The Leicester Mercury has two days after most other fountains of information, reported the 'sighting' of Madeleine, but has removed the report from their electronic version.

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Re: The latest "pretendy" sighting of Maddy in Spain.....

Post  jd16 on Thu 19 Apr - 22:49

Autumn wrote:
jd16 wrote:
ann_chovey wrote:

McCanns and co have relatives in Blackburn Lancashire they are Mary and Martin Walsh, 239 St. James Road, Blackburn, Lancashire. Kate McCann (Healy) was a bridesmaid in 1975 at Paul and Maureen Beneduce wedding here in Blackburn, Paul Beneduce has a sister called Antonietta Beneduce, Antonietta married John Campbell in 1978 here in Blackburn. I went to Antonietta Wedding. Paul and Maureen Beneduce have two daughters, Antonietta and John Campbell have a son and daughter. Robert Murat is related to the Beneduce's, and has relatives in Blackburn and Darwen

Ive followed up on this story before and it is a hoax

Yes I've seen this before and not sure what to make of it. Jd16, wondering what you found out to come to the conclusion it was a hoax? If your searches have drawn a blank it may well be info has been whooshed from the net like so many other things.

I did research this earlier this year Autumn and this very same word for word post/comment was posted on other forums and blogs, earlier by date and under a different names (can't remember what it was). Sophie might be one name. Off memory I think I had seen it at least 3 different times and 3 different names. There was something else too which I can't remember except that it was clear it was a hoax so I forgot about it

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Post  Lioned on Thu 19 Apr - 23:27

Has it been established yet that this was a 'sighting' soon after the event or recently of a 8/9 year old girl ? Sorry i do not read the papers anymore.
Either way i just have to think this is the Express taking the piss again.

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Re: The latest "pretendy" sighting of Maddy in Spain.....

Post  AnnaEsse on Thu 19 Apr - 23:40

jd16 wrote:
tigger wrote: Meanwhile I seem to be responsible for derailing the topic - I replied to a post about Murat here ... now it's nothing but Murat, it's about pornography and still in the wrong topic...

AnnaEsse....could we merge all the Murat posts in this topic into a previous Murat topic or something? as there is very interesting info and discussions which would be good to easily refer to in the future. Thanks

I'd love to, but I think it would just be horrendously complicated.

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Post  cherry1 on Thu 19 Apr - 23:47

think it was supposed to have been a recent sighting lioned but was a sighting I think made last year, PJ have denied there is any basis in this sighting, yet another of the ridiculous games being played out I imagine.

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Re: The latest "pretendy" sighting of Maddy in Spain.....

Post  jd16 on Fri 20 Apr - 0:17

AnnaEsse wrote:
I'd love to, but I think it would just be horrendously complicated.

Thats a shame, I don't know but thought you could move posts between topics quite easily. I can save the topic as an html for future reference

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Post  tanszi on Fri 20 Apr - 0:43

@ Matthew, so funny.

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Re: The latest "pretendy" sighting of Maddy in Spain.....

Post  matthew on Fri 20 Apr - 8:33

Oh dear,another sighting in nerja...last year...

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/246920/Brit-lad-Madeleine-McCann-walked-past-me-in-Costa-resort/


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Post  jd16 on Fri 20 Apr - 9:09

matthew wrote:Oh dear,another sighting in nerja...last year...

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/view/246920/Brit-lad-Madeleine-McCann-walked-past-me-in-Costa-resort/


"I got a really good look at her face. She looked just like Madeleine. She was older obviously, but the features were identical".....What features might these be Billy? Birthmark perhaps? or just a girl with blonde hair!

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Post  almostgothic on Fri 20 Apr - 9:35

So, the nasty, 'orrible abductor decides to parade the most famous missing child in front of the public once again!

The girl, who had dark blonde hair, pale skin and looked “seven or eight”, was with a 6ft, stocky, Middle Eastern man in his 40s with dark hair and stubble
Swarthy-looking then. Oh what a surprise.

Billy said when the man saw they had spotted him he tugged on her hand and pulled her away.
Yeah - day do do dat, don't day. Every time ...

But the pals did not report the sighting because the pair vanished before they could get a photo and they thought they would be laughed at.
Right. Billy can call the cops and save the child, or do nothing and avoid embarrassment.
Decisions, decisions. But Billy doesn't want to be laughed at, so to hell with the girl, even if she is in danger.
But he obviously doesn't mind being laughed at now in the Daily Star. Did some of the folding stuff change hands perchance?
What a guy!

NEXT!

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Post  Guest on Fri 20 Apr - 10:50

Even the Star don't think that this is really "news", judging by their own button...


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Post  cherry1 on Fri 20 Apr - 16:52

He said he was too focused on the girl.......

He couldnt have been that focused if they got away, why didnt he follow them!

the Police seriously need to trace who is behind this hoax sighting and charge them with peverting
the course of justice! and I dont think they would have too far to look either!

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Post  malena stool on Sat 21 Apr - 21:27

Iris wrote:Even the Star don't think that this is really "news", judging by their own button...

And Clarence is still being reported as their spokesman.... Is he doing pro bono work? Surely there can't be folding money changing hands, the fund is allegedly almost exhausted.

Why didn't our intrepid observers rush to the McCanns to stake their claim on the reward (still unclaimed) instead of wandering into the Star offices to get a few sheckels from a cheapskate newspaper?

Rewards offered totalled over £2.6 million including:

£1,500,000 (€2,200,000) including £250,000 by the News of the World, £250,000 by Sir Philip Green, £50,000 by Simon Cowell and £25,000 by Coleen McLoughlin. Other contributors include Sir Richard Branson, JK Rowling, and Bill Kenwright.[141][142]
£1,000,000 (€1,470,000) by British businessman Stephen Winyard.[143][144]
£100,000 (€147,000) by a colleague of Kate McCann.[145]
€15,000 (£10,250) by Portuguese newspaper Record.[146]
£10,000 (€14,700) by The Sun.[147]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Response_to_the_disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann

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