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A NORSE! A NORSE! MY KINGDOM FOR A NORSE!/Dr Roberts

Post  Annabel on Fri 20 Apr - 15:49

EXCLUSIVE to mccannfiles.com

By Dr Martin Roberts
09 April 2012

A NORSE! A NORSE! MY KINGDOM FOR A NORSE!

Assuming of course that Madeleine McCann is in the hands of a not-so-swarthy Scandinavian, secluded in a land where, 'with her looks, she could blend in fairly easily.'

And so the McCanns went off to 'do media' in Sweden, where a journalist, who had no doubt been told she was to meet and interview Kate and Gerry McCann, was greeted by the pair with 'Hi, Gerry.' 'Hi, Kate.' As if she might for some reason have had difficulty deciding who was who. (Making allowance for Swedish sexual liberalism perhaps?). But don't get your hopes up. The dialogue was no more convincing once they were all sitting comfortably:

Gerry McCann [voice over]: I don't think you can give up, even when we've been exhausted to the point of saying 'I just want this to end', you go to bed, you get up the next day and you think, 'she's still missing and we still need to find her' and I think most parents understand that.

And what, exactly, would Gerry like to end? Not the search for his missing daughter, surely? That's what they travelled to Sweden to promote, as Kate will later confirm. But first we hear from her:

Kate McCann [voice over]: I mean, I... I feel she's out there. I feel that there's... there's more to come. I just need it to be soon.

Well of course she's 'out there.' Where else could she be? (No, don't answer rhetorical questions, on the grounds that, etc., etc.). Yet 'there's more to come' You betcha!

Annika Widebeck [voice over]: How convinced are you that she is still alive then?

Gerry McCann: Well, I try to look at it as logically as possible. What we do know is that there's no evidence, at all, to suggest that Madeleine's dead and that means there's a good chance that she's alive, and as a parent I couldn't accept that she was dead without irrefutable evidence that she is, so...

We'll do the logic bit in a moment. First the lie: 'there's no evidence, at all, to suggest that Madeleine's dead.'

No evidence at all to suggest, eh? Viva Zapata!

'...that means there's a good chance that she's alive.' No it does not. If I may quote from an entry in Wikipaedia (on a completely different topic - substitute 'that Madeleine is dead' for the phrase in parentheses):

'The argument that there is no evidence (of Shakespeare's authorship) is a form of fallacious logic known as argumentum ex silentio, or argument from silence, since it takes the absence of evidence to be evidence of absence.'

So, a bit more effort on the logic front required there I think, Gerry.

Kate McCann: And I think we do know of so many cases now of children who have been abducted and have, you know, been away for years and sometimes decades.

Was that two, or three rediscovered in the last five years? I forget.

Annika Widebeck: Like when you're walking in like a Swedish beautiful weather, do you think about now, at this very second, she can be some place and wonder about where?

Kate McCann: I do... It's funny you mention about the weather because it's days like this when I think 'oh, what a lovely day' and that's when I think 'but this would be a lovelier day, if Madeleine was here', errm... (big sigh) I do... I mean... I don't... I try not to speculate too much. I really don't know where she is, all I hope for is that whoever's with her is looking after her and that she's happy, and even that is... is, errm... is sad because, you know, the thought of her being happy with somebody else, when she should be with us, and being happy and, you know, there's no doubt that a child's best place is with their family.

The weather. A singularly British pre-occupation. And on days when the weather is good and it is therefore 'a lovely day,' Kate thinks about how much lovelier the day could be, i.e. how much better even, the weather could be, if Madeleine were there. Apart from the occasional Welshman who believes himself to be a native American Indian, I don't know of too many Europeans who would place any faith in a 'rain dance.' The weather locally (to me, to you, to Kate McCann) is wholly unaffected by Madeleine's exact whereabouts. So in what sense could Madeleine's 'being here' enhance the day's loveliness?

The question to Kate McCann is about Madeleine. All Kate 'hopes for,' primarily, concerns whoever is with her (Madeleine, that is). This strange turn of phrase made its first appearance during the McCanns' very first televised appeal, causing Gerry to cast an irritated glance of disapproval in his wife's direction. It describes guardianship, not captivity. Furthermore, if the subject of the observation is a missing child, then one might expect to hear the phrase, 'whoever she's with' used as an adjunct to any discussion. Here, once again, the child is replaced as the topic by her 'abductor.' Why should Kate prefer/find it easier to discuss anonymous individuals rather than her own daughter?

Gerry McCann: You know, there was a very clear strategy at work that was, errr... trying to convey to the world that, errr... there was strong evidence that Madeleine was dead and we were involved and, in fact, thankfully the prosecutor's final report makes it absolutely clear that, you know, there is no evidence that Madeleine is dead and there's certainly no evidence to link us, errr... to implicate us is any way. So...

So... there's that same old misrepresentation again. Followed by a remark that swerves to avoid danger like a frightened charioteer in the film Ben-Hur: '...there's certainly no evidence to link us, errr... to implicate us is any way.'

Might that have been, 'no evidence to link us to her disappearance,' perhaps? (At which point, those who enjoy a good 'stand-up' routine might picture another notorious Glaswegian, standing all of six feet, one hand on his hip the other stroking his beard, replying, 'Oh, you b****y think so?').

Kate McCann: The damage, errm... that was done with all the media reporting with the lies and speculation and fabrication and being made arguido. I think the damage was ongoing. We've had this in other countries, outside the UK and Portugal. Unlike the UK and Portugal, where the story carried on, some... in other countries it stopped, so it stopped at the dramatic, 'oh, the parents are involved' and then, you know, they moved on to another story really, and all I can say to people is please, please read my book.

Not, '...please be vigilant and look out for my daughter.' 'Please read my book’ (available at the usual retail outlets), where you will find an ‘account of the truth,' comprising lies, speculation and fabrication to counter that of the media referred to earlier.

Gerry McCann: Madeleine could have easily been taken out of Portugal within the first two hours and that's the problem. We have no idea where she is, we don't know who's taken her and we don't know why, so unfortunately for us we want as much awareness as possible that Madeleine's missing and obviously with her looks she could (laughs) blend into Scandinavia fairly easily.

'Madeleine could have easily been taken out of Portugal within the first two hours and that's the problem.' A problem exacerbated by the McCanns having given the abductor a two hour head start (Madeleine 'taken' at 9.15 or thereabouts, local police first contacted at 10.50 p.m., arriving at the scene some 12 to 15 minutes later).

Note also the categorical statements of ignorance. The McCanns apparently have no knowledge of 'where,' 'who' or 'why.' Really?

Gerry McCann: I think certainly there's been remarkably few child abductions since Madeleine was taken.

Remarkably few genuine child abductions to be sure. Coupled with an equally remarkable upsurge in the number of faked ones. Trend analysis anyone?

Annika Widebeck: Tell me how far away was this restaurant?

Gerry McCann: I mean it was incredibly close. I think if you had to draw a straight line from the restaurant to the apartment it was 50 metres. It never entered our head for a second that somebody would steal your child, it was the furthest thing from your mind, so...

Two metres might be 'incredibly close.' Fifty metres is like the other side of the dual carriageway. Just think of 'cross the bridge for motorway services.' And by the way, Annika's child, if she has one, was never at risk, so there was little point in Gerry agonising on her behalf.

Annika Widebeck: And still you hear this all the time why did you leave them... right?

Kate McCann: I mean, there's only so many times we can answer the question and, you know, I've had to... you know, I've persecuted myself with that, you know, obviously... (sigh) I can't change it, I know how much we love Madeleine, you know, and at the end of the day the person who has taken Madeleine is the one who has committed the crime and, errr... and that's who we need to find.

Basically, 'there's only so many times we can answer the question,' ('Why did you leave them?') and Kate's not going to answer it now either as it turns out.

All in all another media moment that's as transparent as cellophane. Still, it did provide some pictures to remind us all of how 'destroyed' the McCanns have been by others opinions of them.

('As he walks along the Bois Boolong with an independent air, you can hear the girls declare, 'He must be a millionaire...!').

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Post  Guest on Fri 20 Apr - 15:57

"you know, there's no doubt that a child's best place is with their family."



Yes, Kate, we know.

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Post  Keela on Fri 20 Apr - 16:09

After all this time, neither of them have learned to speak in coherent sentences.

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Post  Guest on Fri 20 Apr - 16:18

Keela wrote:After all this time, neither of them have learned to speak in coherent sentences.


Now that's the first time for a good while that I've seen Healy & McCann mentioned in the context of Sentences!

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Post  tanszi on Fri 20 Apr - 17:01

The End Is Nigh wrote:"you know, there's no doubt that a child's best place is with their family."



Yes, Kate, we know.


Makes you wonder why their children werent with them then doesnt it? jimo.

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Post  Guest on Fri 20 Apr - 17:04

The remaining ones still don't seem to be,even now, much of the time.

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Post  Angelique on Fri 20 Apr - 17:32

Annabel

Thank you for Dr. roberts latest. I love his articles so much.

I do wonder about Kate's statement: Kate McCann [voice over]: I mean, I... I feel she's out there. I feel that there's... there's more to come. I just need it to be soon.

I wondered when I heard this what she meant and did she really mean to say it. One can imagine after a while of repeating the usual mantra that we will begin to see more 'slips' - did she mean more 'sightings" more 'money' - more' bewks'.

I wonder.

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Post  matthew on Fri 20 Apr - 18:13

and all I can say to people is please, please read my book

gobsmacking statement




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Post  Guest on Fri 20 Apr - 18:18

I wouldn't even use it as loo paper.

Page 129?

Hardly Enid Blyton, is it - and I thought the account of the truth was partly to help the twins' understanding.

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Post  cherry1 on Fri 20 Apr - 18:45

Well, if I was desperate I think I would use it as loo paper!, its not fit for anything else!


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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Fri 20 Apr - 18:59

For the sake of the sewage system I would ask people not to use Kate's book for toilet paper - perhaps as bedding in a small pet's cage would be a good idea though.

How I used to laugh as a child at my mother's stories of how she as a child had the job of cutting up the News of the World for use in the smallest room.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 20 Apr - 20:11

The End Is Nigh wrote:"you know, there's no doubt that a child's best place is with their family."



Yes, Kate, we know.

If Madeleine were still alive and if she were to be found, she would not know her family after all this time. Even if she could remember what her siblings looked like, she wouldn't recognise them now and she probably would not recognise Kate or Gerry. I recall a couple of Christmases ago, Kate and Gerry talked about the 'spare place,' at the dinner table as though a small child who had been away for years would just walk right in and sit down at the table.

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Post  Fern on Fri 20 Apr - 20:18

AnnaEsse wrote:
The End Is Nigh wrote:"you know, there's no doubt that a child's best place is with their family."



Yes, Kate, we know.

If Madeleine were still alive and if she were to be found, she would not know her family after all this time. Even if she could remember what her siblings looked like, she wouldn't recognise them now and she probably would not recognise Kate or Gerry. I recall a couple of Christmases ago, Kate and Gerry talked about the 'spare place,' at the dinner table as though a small child who had been away for years would just walk right in and sit down at the table.

I would have to agree with you Anna, too much time has passed now especially for a child so young, to remember anything of her time with her family.


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Post  interested on Fri 20 Apr - 20:33

I agree with Gerry when he says, "I just want this to end". And with Kate when she said, "...there's more to come. I just need it to be soon."

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Post  marxman on Fri 20 Apr - 23:29

AnnaEsse wrote:
The End Is Nigh wrote:"you know, there's no doubt that a child's best place is with their family."



Yes, Kate, we know.

If Madeleine were still alive and if she were to be found, she would not know her family after all this time. Even if she could remember what her siblings looked like, she wouldn't recognise them now and she probably would not recognise Kate or Gerry. I recall a couple of Christmases ago, Kate and Gerry talked about the 'spare place,' at the dinner table as though a small child who had been away for years would just walk right in and sit down at the table.

Absolutely, and she would be bi-lingual... apt at speaking
various tongues, Portugese, Spanish, Swedish and Arabic!

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Post  jd16 on Fri 20 Apr - 23:38

interested wrote:I agree with Gerry when he says, "I just want this to end". And with Kate when she said, "...there's more to come. I just need it to be soon."


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Post  Panda on Sat 21 Apr - 1:20



" there's no doubt that a child's best place is with their family."


Add to that the famous "We want our Madeleine andd Madeleine wants to be with us"

Pity you and Gerry never thought enough of her on your holiday to leave her alone at night , even after she told you she had been crying Kate.

Thanks Annabel another excellent Article by Dr Roberts

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Post  Wintabells on Sat 21 Apr - 3:32

Annika Widebeck: Like when you're walking in like a Swedish beautiful weather, do you think about now, at this very second, she can be some place and wonder about where?

The question is about what Kate thinks about from one second to the next as she's living her daily life. Kate, however, decides that the question is about whether she thinks about Madeleine during good weather.

Maybe she's just stupid.... I've met stupid people like that, who think that conversation is about randomly selecting a word from the other person's last statement and making some kind of link. For example:

'I hear they've discovered there's water on the moon - I wonder whether anything actually could live there?'

'Yeah... the moon... Terry's Moonlight are my favourite chocolates'.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Sat 21 Apr - 7:53

Wintabells wrote:Annika Widebeck: Like when you're walking in like a Swedish beautiful weather, do you think about now, at this very second, she can be some place and wonder about where?

The question is about what Kate thinks about from one second to the next as she's living her daily life. Kate, however, decides that the question is about whether she thinks about Madeleine during good weather.

Maybe she's just stupid.... I've met stupid people like that, who think that conversation is about randomly selecting a word from the other person's last statement and making some kind of link. For example:

'I hear they've discovered there's water on the moon - I wonder whether anything actually could live there?'

'Yeah... the moon... Terry's Moonlight are my favourite chocolates'.

I've met people like that too. Very annoying! You're trying to put a point across and they go off somewhere else with their response.

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Post  tigger on Sat 21 Apr - 8:05

When Kate said: 'Please read my book'' I had visions of her being coached at Transworld:

Once more, from the top Kate! ....all I can say is ....

Please get it right, we've sold nowhere near enough to cover your advance... 'Please - read - my - bewk'

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Post  AnnaEsse on Sat 21 Apr - 8:11

tigger wrote:When Kate said: 'Please read my book'' I had visions of her being coached at Transworld:

Once more, from the top Kate! ....all I can say is ....

Please get it right, we've sold nowhere near enough to cover your advance... 'Please - read - my - bewk'

'Please read my bewk. Otherwise I might have to get a job.'

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Post  NoStone on Sat 21 Apr - 8:46

They do talk in riddles! (McSpeak!!??) Both start sentences with 'I mean....'

'Kate McCann [voice over]: I mean, I... I feel she's out there.'

'Gerry McCann: I mean it was incredibly close.'

I dont know anyone that talks this way - does anybody else? Is it a colloquialism common to Leicestershire - whatever - its not very articulate for a couple of so called Dr's is it as it does not actually form or have any meaning in the context of what is being said. But then I am no expert in English.

What I do note is Gerry's attempt at introducing words of pity (victims) into his language -

'We have no idea where she is, we don't know who's taken her and we don't know why, so unfortunately for us we want as much awareness as possible that Madeleine's missing and obviously with her looks she could (laughs) blend into Scandinavia fairly easily.'

Why is it 'unfortunate' for them? Again its out of context as he has to re-start te sentence mid-way through

........'so unfortunately for us we want as much awarereness....'

Its balderdash just like Kate's written work. But hey - I mean to them, the clothes they find themselves in fit just fine and dandy!!

You could live as a celeb for the rest of your life talking this sort of tripe!!

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Post  jd16 on Sat 21 Apr - 10:30

AnnaEsse wrote:

I've met people like that too. Very annoying! You're trying to put a point across and they go off somewhere else with their response.

Aka Politicians!

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Post  jd16 on Sat 21 Apr - 10:36

NoStone wrote:They do talk in riddles! (McSpeak!!??) Both start sentences with 'I mean....'

'Kate McCann [voice over]: I mean, I... I feel she's out there.'

'Gerry McCann: I mean it was incredibly close.'

I dont know anyone that talks this way - does anybody else? Is it a colloquialism common to Leicestershire - whatever - its not very articulate for a couple of so called Dr's is it as it does not actually form or have any meaning in the context of what is being said. But then I am no expert in English.

What I do note is Gerry's attempt at introducing words of pity (victims) into his language -

'We have no idea where she is, we don't know who's taken her and we don't know why, so unfortunately for us we want as much awareness as possible that Madeleine's missing and obviously with her looks she could (laughs) blend into Scandinavia fairly easily.'

Why is it 'unfortunate' for them? Again its out of context as he has to re-start te sentence mid-way through

........'so unfortunately for us we want as much awarereness....'

Its balderdash just like Kate's written work. But hey - I mean to them, the clothes they find themselves in fit just fine and dandy!!

You could live as a celeb for the rest of your life talking this sort of tripe!!

kate says in reply a lot "Its funny you should say that....." Yes the mccanns do use "I mean" a lot and also slipping in PR phrases wherever they can like 'window of opportunity ' ' Missing piece of the jigsaw' etc. this is their mindset in interviews

If you think the mccanns speak bad english it is nothing compared to david payne...In one statement alone there were 1,700 'you knows'! this would be staggering from an uneducated individual but even more from so from a doctor! jane tanner is equally as bad. In fact they all speak bad pigeon english, no wonder the NHS is in trouble if this is the calibre

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sat 21 Apr - 11:05

I do think though that they might be more fluent and eloquent when they're not talking out of their backsides and trying to remember the prepared story.


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