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Re: May take a few months to deport Abu Qatada

Post  AnnaEsse on Wed 27 Mar - 15:30

chrissie wrote:Mark White ‏@skymarkwhite 14m

BREAKING - The Home Secretary has lost her latest bid to have the radical cleric Abu #Qatada deported to Jordan


This country makes me despair......

If the b*stard had any decency he'd go. We don't want him here and when the government is trying so hard to get rid of him, surely a decent person would not stay where he is so hated and definitely not wanted? A decent person!

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Post  chrissie on Wed 27 Mar - 16:22

Exactly, a decent paerson would Anna. But he clearly enjoys the limelight.

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Re: May take a few months to deport Abu Qatada

Post  Panda on Wed 27 Mar - 16:42

The Judge decided that Qatada, having spent 9 yrs in gaol in the past received sufficient punishment. The home Secretary is to appeal and if she can prove that he broke his bail condition the case will be reviewed again. I thought that was the reason the Home Secretary went to Court, because Qatada
had broken his bail condition?????

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Post  Panda on Wed 17 Apr - 18:15

Home Office To Appeal Over Qatada Ruling


Home Secretary Theresa May is seeking leave to appeal over
a court ruling that "hate preacher" Abu Qatada can stay in Britain.



12:46pm UK,
Wednesday 17 April 2013

At present Abu Qatada cannot be deported











The Home Office has asked the Court of Appeal for leave to appeal
over a decision to allow Abu Qatada to stay in the UK.

The move to appeal to the Supreme Court comes after judges last month
rejected the latest in a long line of attempts to deport the radical cleric to
Jordan.

In March, Court of Appeal judges backed an earlier ruling that Qatada, also
known as Omar Othman, could not be deported over fears that evidence obtained
through torture would be used against him.

A Home Office spokesman said: "The Government remains committed to deporting
this dangerous man and we continue to work with the Jordanians to address the
outstanding legal issues preventing deportation."

The Government has now been trying to deport Qatada to Jordan, where he was
convicted of terror charges in his absence in 1999, for nearly eight years.

The Home Secretary's lawyers challenged a ruling made last November by
immigration judges on the grounds that Qatada was a "truly dangerous" individual
who had escaped deportation through "errors of law".
Qatada on his release from prison last
November
But three Court of Appeal judges said the Special Immigration Appeals
Commission was entitled to conclude that disputed statements would be used
against Qatada.

And, in reaching their conclusion, they added it was not "relevant" that
terror suspect Qatada was regarded as "extremely dangerous".

Qatada, who featured in sermons found on videos in the flat of one of the
9/11 bombers, has ultimately thwarted every Government attempt to deport
him.

A resident in the UK since September 1993, he was returned to jail last month
after being arrested for alleged bail breaches.

A hearing over whether he should be granted bail again was due to be held
last month but was delayed.

Police say he is being investigated over extremist material following a
search of his London home.

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Re: May take a few months to deport Abu Qatada

Post  malena stool on Wed 17 Apr - 19:42

May should deport this creature whatever the Human rights brigade in Europe say or do. This is our country, we should abide by our laws and it is our money paying for his and his families upkeep. He has contributed nothing to this nation other than to foster hatred yet he is in receipt of more aid and assistance than our indigenous elderly population, many of whom have fought for the rights and conditions that he is abusing.

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Post  Panda on Tue 23 Apr - 14:54

May Can't Go To Supreme Court Over Qatada


2:20pm UK,
Tuesday 23 April 2013

Abu Qatada has thwarted deportation to Jordan for
years












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The Government has been refused permission to take its fight to
remove preacher Abu Qatada from the UK to the Supreme Court.

Permission to appeal to the highest court in the land over a case that has
already dragged on for eight years was refused by the Court of Appeal.

The Government's had tried to launch a new appeal after judges last month
rejected the latest in a long line of attempts to deport the terror suspect to
Jordan.

In March, the Court of Appeal backed an earlier ruling that Qatada could not
be deported over fears that evidence obtained through torture would be used
against him.

A spokesman for the Judicial Office said the Court of Appeal had confirmed
that that it had refused permission for the Home Secretary to appeal to the
Supreme Court.
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There is something seriously wrong with our Judicial system......this Man broke his Bail conditions, is living off the Social Welfare , is wanted by another
Country for crimes but our Judges refuse to extradite him. It is quite scary to think that our Goverment is ruled by these bl**dy Human Rights Judges .
he should have been put on a Plane in the dead of night, with his Family. years ago.

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Re: May take a few months to deport Abu Qatada

Post  Panda on Fri 26 Apr - 10:01

Clegg: No discussions about leaving human rights convention over Qatada


Nick Clegg has disclosed that he has not even been consulted about plans
being considered by David Cameron to leave the European Convention on Human
Rights in order to deport Abu Qatada.




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2:32PM BST 25 Apr 2013





Mr Clegg, the Deputy Prime Minister, said that nobody in the Government has
discussed with him the possibility of Britain temporarily withdrawing from the
ECHR over continuing efforts to deport hate preacher Qatada.


David Cameron this week held a “war council” with Theresa May, the Home
Secretary, Justice Secretary Chris Grayling and Attorney General Dominic Grieve
to discuss ways of deporting Qatada.


Downing Street is insisting that temporary withdrawal from the convention is
an option that is being considered by ministers.


However, officials have refused to say whether Mr Grieve has been asked to
provide legal guidance on whether such a move would even be possible.


Speaking during his weekly Call Clegg programme on LBC Radio, Mr Clegg poured
scorn on the suggestions and questioned whether withdrawal from the ECHR would
make the “blindest bit of difference”.



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“I have no idea even in theory whether jumping in and out of the ECHR would
make the blindest bit of difference... no one has made that case, no-one has
made that proposal,” he said.

“I'm not going to be hypothetical about something which hasn't been put to me
and hasn't even been demonstrated it might actually help get rid of him.”

Mr Clegg praised Mrs May for striking a new deal with Jordan designed to
reassure courts that torture evidence would not be used against the terror
suspect, adding that Qatada’s presence in the UK is “infuriating”.

He said: “It is so infuriating. It makes you want to pull your hair out in
frustration to see this guy constantly play this along in the courts and not be
deported.

"We want to see him deported, I want to see him deported. Theresa May has
done actually a fantastically good job in making sure we can deport him."

Mr Clegg said the so-called "mutual legal assistance agreement" - which
includes guarantees about fair trials - was a "significant step" and provided "a
lot of the answers to court judgment".

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Re: May take a few months to deport Abu Qatada

Post  malena stool on Fri 26 Apr - 10:35

I agree that we should take every and any reasonable steps to get this abomination out of our country, but more importantly we should stop the likes of this scum entering in the first place and then giving them far more in benefits than we do our own people!

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Re: May take a few months to deport Abu Qatada

Post  Panda on Fri 26 Apr - 10:56

malena stool wrote:I agree that we should take every and any reasonable steps to get this abomination out of our country, but more importantly we should stop the likes of this scum entering in the first place and then giving them far more in benefits than we do our own people!

Who is paying for Qatar's Legal Fees????? If he is getting Legal Aid that is adding insult to injury. There was a video with the article showing Theresa May speaking in Parliament about this but it didn't come out here. malena, it's worth a listen so go to the Telegraph U.K. News .

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Re: May take a few months to deport Abu Qatada

Post  malena stool on Fri 26 Apr - 21:05

Panda wrote:
malena stool wrote:I agree that we should take every and any reasonable steps to get this abomination out of our country, but more importantly we should stop the likes of this scum entering in the first place and then giving them far more in benefits than we do our own people!

Who is paying for Qatar's Legal Fees????? If he is getting Legal Aid that is adding insult to injury. There was a video with the article showing Theresa May speaking in Parliament about this but it didn't come out here. malena, it's worth a listen so go to the Telegraph U.K. News .
I would think everything this creature and his family possess has come out of public funding, Panda. All this while many indigenous British and their families are relying on food banks to survive.

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Post  Panda on Fri 10 May - 10:42

Qatada 'Will Return To Jordan' If Law Agreed


Radical cleric Abu Qatada says he will voluntarily return
to Jordan if a treaty guaranteeing he will not be tortured is ratified.



10:21am UK,
Friday 10 May 2013

Qatada was jailed in March for alleged bail
breaches












Abu Qatada has agreed to voluntarily return to Jordan if a treaty
on the use of evidence obtained by torture is agreed by the country's
parliament.

His co-operation was announced by his barrister, Edward Fitzgerald QC, at the
beginning of an immigration tribunal to decide whether Qatada can be released
from prison on bail, which was later adjourned until May 20.

He will remain in custody until then.

The Government has been trying to deport the radical cleric to Jordan, where
he was convicted of terror charges in his absence in 1999, for nearly eight
years.

Immigration judges decided last year that Qatada, also known as Omar Othman,
could not be deported over fears that evidence obtained through torture would be
used against him in the Middle Eastern country.

Last month, the Home Secretary unveiled a new treaty between the UK and
Jordan offering fresh guarantees that such torture evidence will not be
used.

Mr Fitzgerald told the Special Immigration Appeals Commission (Siac) hearing:
"If, and when, the Jordanian parliament ratifies the treaty, Mr Othman
will voluntarily return to Jordan."

Sky News Home Affairs Correspondent called it "a very significant
development", that had come unexpectedly.

He said the Home Secretary Theresa May had said the Jordanian government
would ratify the treaty but it was unclear how long it would take because Jordan
is currently dealing with a huge humanitarian crisis caused by the civil war in
neighbouring Syria.

"What may be a priority for the British Government isn't necessarily a top
priority for the Jordanian government.

" ... It may still be some time off," he added.

The Home Office said it would respond to the announcement, which will be seen
as a victory for Theresa May, in due course.

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Could this be another ploy by Qatada , to volunteer, knowing it would take a millenium to get a Treaty ratified. Just put him on a Plane without his passport and drop him off at a private Airport on Jordan i say.!!!

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Re: May take a few months to deport Abu Qatada

Post  Panda on Mon 20 May - 14:48

Well, one bit of good news. Qatada lost his appeal to go home.

Apparently , police found 6 mobile phones in the house and although the family said they were theirs , the Court did not believe them so he stays in Belmarsh until Jordan produces the Legal undertaking that he will revieve a fair Trial.

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Post  chrissie on Tue 18 Jun - 14:41

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22953531

Abu Qatada treaty endorsed by King of Jordan

The King of Jordan has endorsed a treaty with the UK, paving the way for the extradition of radical cleric Abu Qatada.

The treaty will become law once the document is published in the Jordanian government's official gazette.

In the UK, the treaty is expected to be passed by MPs and become law on Friday.

The cleric has already indicated he will not challenge deportation if the treaty is passed because the document guarantees him a fair trial.

Once the treaty passes all of its legal hurdles in both countries, the cleric's deportation is expected to resume.

UK Home Secretary Theresa May would be able to issue a fresh deportation order. The cleric would have time to respond if he wished to, but that is expected to be only a few days.

Britain has been trying to deport Abu Qatada since 2005, and he has been detained and released several times during the legal battle. The Home Office has revealed the eight-year legal fight to deport the cleric has cost taxpayers more than £1.7m so far.

Terrorism charges
If Abu Qatada keeps to an assurance given in court that he will leave the UK because the treaty guarantees a fair trial, he would be put on a plane in a matter of weeks, not months.

Security minister James Brokenshire said: "The government remains committed to securing Abu Qatada's deportment as quickly as possible."

Abu Qatada arrived in Britain and claimed asylum in 1993, but became notorious for preaching radical views such as support for the killing of Jews and people who leave Islam.

In 1999, the cleric was convicted of terrorism charges in his absence in Jordan and sentenced to life in prison.

He now faces a retrial on those charges, but his lawyers have said some of the evidence may have come from people who were tortured to make them implicate him.

The European Court of Human Rights and senior British judges have ruled that before Abu Qatada can be deported, Jordan must show he would not face a trial that relied on evidence obtained by torturing others.

The UK-Jordan Treaty on Mutual Legal Assistance, signed in March, states that anyone deported from the UK must be treated humanely and be given a fair trial. It includes specific guarantees designed to ban the use of torture evidence.

Abu Qatada is currently in London's Belmarsh Prison after breaching a bail condition which restricted the use of mobile phones and other communication devices.



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Re: May take a few months to deport Abu Qatada

Post  malena stool on Tue 18 Jun - 18:59

Hopefully his family will be joining him in Jordan. The British taxpayer can do with a break from providing charitable donations to what are no more than parasites who are prepared to bite the hand that feeds them.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 18 Jun - 21:36

Abu Qatada Could Be 'Deported In Days'

The Government's long-running fight to deport the terror suspect to Jordan could be over within the coming days, it emerges.

Abu Qatada could be removed from the UK by the end of the week after the King of Jordan approved a new treaty designed to prompt the radical cleric's deportation.

Government sources say the agreement, unveiled by the Home Secretary in April, aims to allay fears that evidence extracted through torture will be used against the terror suspect at a retrial.

Last month, Qatada unexpectedly volunteered to leave the country as soon as the treaty between the UK and Jordan was ratified by both countries.

The treaty must be published in the Jordanian Government's Official Gazette before the Jordanian process is complete, while the UK Government expects the treaty to be ratified in Britain by Friday.

Security Minister James Brokenshire said: "The Government remains committed to securing Abu Qatada's deportation as quickly as possible."

http://news.sky.com/story/1105268/abu-qatada-could-be-deported-in-days

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Qatada 'to be booted out by Sunday'

Post  AnnaEsse on Wed 3 Jul - 7:16

Qatada 'to be booted out by Sunday': At last! Britain deals with hate preacher as farcical bid to deport him finally nears its conclusion

The ten-year battle to deport Abu Qatada was finally nearing its conclusion last night.
Preparations are in hand to put the hate preacher on a plane home early on Sunday.
The farcical saga, which has enraged politicians and the public alike, has already cost £2million.
Although ministers insist legal hurdles remain, Whitehall sources say the Al Qaeda fanatic should be handed over to the authorities in Jordan this weekend.
The breakthrough follows yesterday’s adoption by the Middle Eastern state of a treaty that will  protect Qatada’s human rights.
He has made this a condition of him voluntarily going home to face trial over his alleged involvement in a bomb plot.
Last night Channel 4 News revealed he will be served with new papers for his deportation that give him 72 hours to appeal.
If he honours his word he will be put on a flight home from RAF Northolt in West London.
Last night security minister James Brokenshire said: ‘While further steps remain, our focus is on seeing Abu Qatada on a plane to Jordan at the earliest opportunity.’
Qatada – once dubbed Osama Bin Laden’s right hand man in Europe – has repeatedly used human rights laws to thwart his removal.
He claimed his trial for plotting a terror attack would be unfair because some of the evidence used against him may have been obtained by torture.

This argument, originally rejected by the British courts, was upheld by judges in Strasbourg. It forced Home Secretary Theresa May to seek new legal guarantees from Jordan that Qatada’s rights would not be breached.....


....Qatada, who has cost the taxpayer millions of pounds in housing benefit and other state handouts is behind bars in London’s Belmarsh prison. ..

....Over the past eight years, Qatada’s lawyers have pocketed £864,944 in legal aid. Of this, the authorities have managed to claw back only £217,286 by selling assets belonging to the preacher.
The cost to taxpayers of trying to boot him out has been a further £938,630 in the domestic courts, and £130,018 at the European Court of Human Rights in Strasbourg. This gives a net total of £1,716, 286.
He has spent years in maximum security prisons, with every year inside costing taxpayers up to £60,000....


....In May a court was told that Qatada and his family had complained that their taxpayer-funded house was too small and they did not have enough storage space.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2354055/Abu-Qatada-booted-Sunday-At-Britain-deals-hate-preacher.html




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Post  malena stool on Wed 3 Jul - 9:52

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....In May a court was told that Qatada and his family had complained that their taxpayer-funded house was too small and they did not have enough storage space.
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It's remarkable how much property can fit in a small storage space if it's been incinerated!

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Post  AnnaEsse on Wed 3 Jul - 10:13

malena stool wrote:Quote
....In May a court was told that Qatada and his family had complained that their taxpayer-funded house was too small and they did not have enough storage space.
Unquote

It's remarkable how much property can fit in a small storage space if it's been incinerated!

I don't have enough storage space but I'm sure no government agency is going to help me with that. I hope Qatada's family accompany him to Jordan because they have cost us enough already.

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Post  malena stool on Wed 3 Jul - 11:11

If the Jordanian Government have promised he'll be treated fairly there is no reason for his family to remain here taking up our living space and draining what few resources we have left. I'll throw a couple of quid into the kitty for their air fare with pleasure, if our government's coffers can't stretch to paying for them to go with him.

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Post  Panda on Sat 6 Jul - 8:29

Abu Qatada To Finally Be Deported To JordanThe radical cleric spends his final day on British soil before he is taken from Belmarsh prison and flown to Jordan to face trial.5:00am UK, Saturday 06 July 2013 Video: Qatada To Finally Leave UK
Enlarge EmailBy Mark White, Home Affairs Correspondent

Abu Qatada will be moved to RAF Northolt in west London and deported to Jordan in the early hours of Sunday morning.

It marks the end of a near decade-long legal battle to remove the preacher, who the Government has described as a "truly dangerous individual" and a "key player" in al Qaeda-related terrorism.

Sky News understands the 51-year-old will be driven from Belmarsh prison in southeast London to RAF Northolt around midnight tonight.

A military aircraft will be waiting to take off around 2am on Sunday, heading for an isolated airstrip near the Jordanian capital Amman.


Qatada has spent much of the last decade in detention at HMP Belmarsh

The cleric will be transferred to the maximum security Muwaqqar prison, which houses dozens of convicted terrorists.

It is understood that Qatada will be held in solitary confinement at the jail, until the Jordanian authorities can put him on trial.

Qatada originally fled the Middle East and arrived in the UK in 1993. He was granted asylum the following year.

His increasingly radical sermons caught the attention of the security services in Britain and in numerous other countries.

A Spanish judge described him as the "spiritual head of the mujaheddin in Britain".

A number of people arrested on terrorism offences, including British born "shoe-bomber" Richard Reid, admitted seeking religious advice from him.


Would-be 'shoe-bomber' Richard Reid was linked to Qatada

His sermons were found in the Hamburg flat used by a number of the 9/11 hijackers.

In 2001, on the eve of tough new British anti-terror laws allowing for the detention without trial of foreign terror suspects, Qatada went on the run, before later being arrested and held in Belmarsh prison.

He has spent most of the last decade in detention, the last eight years while contesting efforts to deport him.

On two occasions he was granted bail, but later detained for breaching his strict bail conditions.

This weekend marks the end of a national embarrassment, which critics of European human rights legislation claim has rendered UK politicians powerless to remove someone who they believed to be a clear threat to national security.

It was revealed recently that the cost of years of legal fees from the many court proceedings stood at £1.7m - a bill which will be footed by UK taxpayers.

For Theresa May, there is no doubt the deportation of Qatada is a significant political victory.

But having had their fingers burnt on numerous occasions in the past, no one at the Home Office will be celebrating until the radical cleric is on that plane and out of UK airspace.

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Post  Badboy on Sat 6 Jul - 16:52

ANYONE GOT A COUNTDOWN CLOCK?

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Re: May take a few months to deport Abu Qatada

Post  AnnaEsse on Sat 6 Jul - 22:22

Badboy wrote:ANYONE GOT A COUNTDOWN CLOCK?

We had one of those when Abu Hamza was put on a plane to the USA and there was a web page where the trip could be tracked as the plane flew over Ireland and out over the Atlantic and on....!

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Post  Panda on Sun 7 Jul - 5:48

AnnaEsse wrote:
Badboy wrote:ANYONE GOT A COUNTDOWN CLOCK?

We had one of those when Abu Hamza was put on a plane to the USA and there was a web page where the trip could be tracked as the plane flew over Ireland and out over the Atlantic and on....!

I just watched the Plane take off earlier from Northolt Airport with Qatada, Jordanian Lawyer, Human Rights Rep and a couple of others HURRAH, well done Theresa May .!!!

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Post  malena stool on Sun 7 Jul - 8:30

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

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Post  Panda on Sun 7 Jul - 8:39

malena stool wrote:Good riddance to bad rubbish.

Morning malena, Cameron had to get in on the act, just being interviewed saying how pleased he was that HIS Party had managed to do what others had spent years trying and his Manifesto would introduce new measures, such as fewer appeals , but the Interviewer said after the interview that this might not be possible.

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