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VIDEO: McSpin Response - Dogs Don't Lie!

Post  HiDeHo on Mon 23 Apr - 10:40

My response to McCann McSpin 'Dogs are Unreliable'

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Gerry McCann claims that CADAVER dogs are unreliable. This video shows quite the opposite. Including footage of a murder victim found 10' below the surface with piles of MEAT on top to attempt to distract the dogs. They were not distracted.

10 acres of land, buried 10' down, this case would not have been solved without the dogs. Amazing footage!

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 23 Apr - 12:35

HiDeHo wrote:My response to McCann McSpin 'Dogs are Unreliable'

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Gerry McCann claims that CADAVER dogs are unreliable. This video shows quite the opposite. Including footage of a murder victim found 10' below the surface with piles of MEAT on top to attempt to distract the dogs. They were not distracted.

10 acres of land, buried 10' down, this case would not have been solved without the dogs. Amazing footage!

That must be "The Doberman Gang," HiDeHo. Amazing dogs!

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Post  mumbles on Mon 23 Apr - 13:12

Another great video HiDeHo.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 23 Apr - 13:24

Excellent HiDeHo.

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Post  pennylane on Mon 23 Apr - 14:32

Gerry McCann says "cadaver dogs are enormously unreliable." Well watch this and weep Gerry! You can fool some of the people some of the time, but there are many thousands of people you haven't fooled ANY of the time!

I loved the way HiDeHo showed the dogs alerting in the apartment to Kate's trousers and top, and spoke of them alerting to cuddle cat also, and then flashed to Kate wearing and holding all three items back on the day after Maddie disappeared. Very powerful!

That was an amazing video HiDeHo, thank you so much!



Bet the McCanns wish Martin Grimes kept pugs.


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Post  Panda on Mon 23 Apr - 15:01



Excellent Video, HideHo, and the song, very apt......well done.

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Re: VIDEO: McSpin Response - Dogs Don't Lie!

Post  mossman on Mon 23 Apr - 15:07

As always HiDeHo, in a league of its own, well done.

Kates comment is a very telling one. She says someting along the lines of the dogs alerted, i felt myself relax a little, this was not an exact science.

So the dogs alert to the scent of either blood, cadaver or both and you releax ?? Even if a person with an in-depth scientific knowledge of how the dogs work had valid scientific reasons for disbelieving in their accuracy, if those same dogs were alerting in relation to your OWN child, you would would most certainly not relax. That is lie down on the floor and wail time.

Any normal person would describe that moment as almost worse than finding their child missing - this is presenting a possibility of death or serious injury. You would not start to relax


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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 23 Apr - 15:14

mossman wrote:As always HiDeHo, in a league of its own, well done.

Kates comment is a very telling one. She says someting along the lines of the dogs alerted, i felt myself relax a little, this was not an exact science.

So the dogs alert to the scent of either blood, cadaver or both and you releax ?? Even if a person with an in-depth scientific knowledge of how the dogs work had valid scientific reasons for disbelieving in their accuracy, if those same dogs were alerting in relation to your OWN child, you would would most certainly not relax. That is lie down on the floor and wail time.

Any normal person would describe that moment as almost worse than finding their child missing - this is presenting a possibility of death or serious injury. You would not start to relax


So what is 'an exact science,' according to the McCanns? Gerry's doing research and coming up with a sample of one to try to prove the unreliability of the dogs? Gerry's research on the period of time the cadaver odour persists for, and from all the information published on the web, comes up with 30 days? Not much of a scientist.

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Post  Panda on Mon 23 Apr - 15:49




Honestly, the more you read the more you wonder how the McCanns escaped neglect charges at the very least.!! What a nerve, Gerry suggesting it
was his idea to use the dogs.

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Re: VIDEO: McSpin Response - Dogs Don't Lie!

Post  kitti on Mon 23 Apr - 16:45

Fantastic video.....Gerry mccanns remark re.....'I asked for the dogs to be brought in'........wasnt that the search and rescue dogs he was on about as it was the BRITISH police who brought in the cadaver dogs ....what a lier he is


I mean, why would he ask for cadaver dogs to be brought in when he is always saying ....Madeleine is alive. And come to no harm.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 23 Apr - 16:52

kitti wrote:Fantastic video.....Gerry mccanns remark re.....'I asked for the dogs to be brought in'........wasnt that the search and rescue dogs he was on about as it was the BRITISH police who brought in the cadaver dogs ....what a lier he is


I mean, why would he ask for cadaver dogs to be brought in when he is always saying ....Madeleine is alive. And come to no harm.

It was Mark Harrison who suggested bringing in Eddie and Keela, after reviewing all the statements and walking all the routes the tapas 9 took and any possible route taken by an abductor. He said they should be looking for a body. So, no it wasn't Gerry who suggested it.

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Post  mossman on Mon 23 Apr - 17:10

AnnaEsse wrote:
mossman wrote:As always HiDeHo, in a league of its own, well done.

Kates comment is a very telling one. She says someting along the lines of the dogs alerted, i felt myself relax a little, this was not an exact science.

So the dogs alert to the scent of either blood, cadaver or both and you releax ?? Even if a person with an in-depth scientific knowledge of how the dogs work had valid scientific reasons for disbelieving in their accuracy, if those same dogs were alerting in relation to your OWN child, you would would most certainly not relax. That is lie down on the floor and wail time.

Any normal person would describe that moment as almost worse than finding their child missing - this is presenting a possibility of death or serious injury. You would not start to relax


So what is 'an exact science,' according to the McCanns? Gerry's doing research and coming up with a sample of one to try to prove the unreliability of the dogs? Gerry's research on the period of time the cadaver odour persists for, and from all the information published on the web, comes up with 30 days? Not much of a scientist.


30 days - it is like the best before date on a bottle of milk.

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Re: VIDEO: McSpin Response - Dogs Don't Lie!

Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 23 Apr - 17:30

mossman wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
mossman wrote:As always HiDeHo, in a league of its own, well done.

Kates comment is a very telling one. She says someting along the lines of the dogs alerted, i felt myself relax a little, this was not an exact science.

So the dogs alert to the scent of either blood, cadaver or both and you releax ?? Even if a person with an in-depth scientific knowledge of how the dogs work had valid scientific reasons for disbelieving in their accuracy, if those same dogs were alerting in relation to your OWN child, you would would most certainly not relax. That is lie down on the floor and wail time.

Any normal person would describe that moment as almost worse than finding their child missing - this is presenting a possibility of death or serious injury. You would not start to relax


So what is 'an exact science,' according to the McCanns? Gerry's doing research and coming up with a sample of one to try to prove the unreliability of the dogs? Gerry's research on the period of time the cadaver odour persists for, and from all the information published on the web, comes up with 30 days? Not much of a scientist.


30 days - it is like the best before date on a bottle of milk.

It is, isn't it?! I'll bet Gerry found that and stopped looking! "Phew! 30 days! It's more than that since we.....so the dogs couldn't have found anything.

Hold on a minute, though, we didn't need all of those explanations if it's just 30 days! Drat!"

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Post  HiDeHo on Mon 23 Apr - 17:38

Panda wrote:

Excellent Video, HideHo, and the song, very apt......well done.

I couldn't help thinking it could be perceived in more ways than one!

'No matter where you go...I will find you!'

The comment about the dogs WAS referring to the July dogs and not the initial search dogs as can be seen at 27.15 in this video (which I finally managed to upload last week!)


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Post  NoStone on Mon 23 Apr - 18:14

xcellent Video HiDeHo!

Would'nt it yet be so sooo ironic if dogs finally uncovered a body that finally nailed them. The word 'ask the dogs Sandra' and 'Unreliabe' would go through Gerry's mind every single minute of every single day whilst he was in

Now that would be sweet sweet justice.

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Post  mossman on Mon 23 Apr - 18:21

So, they asked for the dogs to be brought on the basis that Madeliene was 100% abducted, on the basis that the dogs are unreliable and on the basis that odour would not be available after 30 days. My head hurts

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Re: VIDEO: McSpin Response - Dogs Don't Lie!

Post  matthew on Mon 23 Apr - 18:22



Those dogs were/are amazing,10ft down & halfway there was a decoy of rotting meat which they ignored & continued to signal...Michael Wright said the Mccanns had rotting meat in the boot of the renault scenic that Eddie the cadaver dog searched & then alerted in


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Post  Fern on Mon 23 Apr - 20:34

matthew wrote:

Michael Wright said the Mccanns had rotting meat in the boot of the renault scenic that Eddie the cadaver dog searched & then alerted in


Did he really say that Matthew as Eddie didn't search or alert INSIDE the Scenic.

Was it just the one statement he gave as he mentions nappies here ?

MW Rog:

"I noted some unpleasant smells on a number of occasions which I think have come from the twins' nappies. Discarded nappies were collected in rubbish bags and held until thrown into the rubbish bins, thereby provoking smell."


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Post  Fern on Mon 23 Apr - 20:39

Was it this statement you were thinking of Matthew by Sandy Cameron ?

"On one occasion, I believe it was on July of 2007, I took Patricia to the supermarket.

We carried bags in the boot (trunk) of the Renault Scenic; bought various items including fresh fish, shrimp and beef. When we unloaded the shopping bags, we noticed that blood has run out of the bottom of the plastic bag.

After this shopping trip and still in the month of July 2007, I began to notice a strange odour in the car. I did not give it much importance and assumed it was likely due to the leakage from the rubbish bags or from the blood which had escaped from the shopping bags.

As a result, we removed the carpet from the boot (trunk) in order to clean it. I tossed (beat) the boot carpet to remove any particles and cleaned it with a wet cloth and left it to air out."


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Post  matthew on Mon 23 Apr - 20:40

Thanks for pulling me on that,i think sandy cameron & not michael wright had stated that blood from meat had run out from the shopping bags into the boot

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Post  matthew on Mon 23 Apr - 20:41

Thanks fern

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Post  Fern on Mon 23 Apr - 20:47

matthew wrote:Thanks fern

Can you remember what colour the material inside the Scenic boot was Matthew ?

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Post  matthew on Mon 23 Apr - 20:50

From memory...anthracite?

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Post  matthew on Mon 23 Apr - 20:54

Black? could you see spilt blood on dark carpet?

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Post  Fern on Mon 23 Apr - 21:04

matthew wrote:From memory...anthracite?

Thats right.

On reflection I guess its stange that they didn't clear up the blood spillage there and then but waited until there was a smell.

Just how easy would it be to identify a blood spill on such dark material at a later date I wonder.


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