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Gery and Kate are lying

Post  fred on Mon 23 Apr - 17:12

http://www.free-science.com/2010/12/kate-mccann-and-gerry-mccann-are.html

Hmm? Not seen this before is it new?

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Re: Gery and Kate are lying

Post  kitti on Mon 23 Apr - 17:18

They have evidence.....what evidence and why arent they doing something with it.....and WHO is stopping them arresting them....that's the 64 dollar question .

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Re: Gery and Kate are lying

Post  jd16 on Mon 23 Apr - 17:21

Neither have I....But are you surprised, this is the UK! Scroll down to number 5 on the link below. This is on Spains EL Pais website

http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internacional/Cable/pruebas/caso/Madeleine/elpepuint/20101213elpepuint_15/Tes

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Post  mossman on Mon 23 Apr - 17:46

Is it known with certainty why John Buck resigned ? Sorry for asking but I am a relative late commer to this and not being from the UK I am not up to speed with politics there.

I have always wondered why.

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Re: Gery and Kate are lying

Post  fred on Mon 23 Apr - 17:49

mossman wrote:Is it known with certainty why John Buck resigned ? Sorry for asking but I am a relative late commer to this and not being from the UK I am not up to speed with politics there.

I have always wondered why.

Ellis informed Ambassador Hoffman that former British
Ambassador John Buck had accepted a private-sector position
with a British gas company and that his abrupt departure in
August 2007 had nothing to do with bilateral issues.

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Re: Gery and Kate are lying

Post  matthew on Mon 23 Apr - 17:54

Kate McCann and Gerry McCann are responsible for the disappearance of Madeleine McCann, admitted the Ambassador Alexander W. Ellis
Official Document of the United States Lisbon Embassy from 2007-09-28 15:36:00

The British Ambassador Alexander W. Ellis admitted that the British Police had developed the current evidence against Kate McCann and Gerry McCann, regarding the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

As we can see, in the Official Document of the United States Lisbon Embassy from 2007-09-28 15:36:00, the British Ambassador Alexander W. Ellis admitted that the British police had developed the current evidence against the Kate McCann and Gerry McCann, the parents of Madeleine McCann.

This document is formal evidence that Kate McCann and Gerry are not telling the truth about what happened to Madeleine McCann.

Telling something that is not the real truth, by definition, is called: Lying.

So, besides the evidences collected by the Portuguese Judiciary Police (Polícia Judiciária Portuguesa) and by the British Police, the parents Gerry McCann and Kate McCann, are they lying about what really happened to Madeleine McCann?

Why Kate McCann and Gerry McCann are lying about what really happened to Madeleine McCann?

Are Kate McCann and Gerry McCann Liars and Criminals regarding the Madeleine McCann case?

Well... the Ambassador Alexander W. Ellis admitted that the British Police has evidence against Gerry McCann and Kate McCann regarding the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

After all this, what do you think NOW about Kate McCann and Gerry McCann?

Was this the leak from wikileaks?

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Post  tigger on Mon 23 Apr - 18:10

Yes, I think so. There was also a wikileak email I think from John Buck, telling his masters all was not well with the story. Just before he left office.

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Post  kathybelle on Mon 23 Apr - 19:09

Alexander Ellis is speaking a load of rot in this article. The British police didn't develop evidence against the McCanns, the McCanns handed evidence over to the PJ, the minute they told them that apart from the first night, their children were left unsupervised, when they went out for the evening. Scotland Yard advised the PJ to make the McCanns suspects, but it was only after they had learned what the PJ already knew.

For reason's best known to the PJ, they didn't follow Scotland Yard's advice. In my opinion it could have been because Gerry had asked for help from his buddy Gordon Brown, before the Portuguese police arrived at their apartment, to investigate Madeleine's disappearance. In my opinion, by the time the PJ eventually made the McCanns arguido's it was just a paper excercise.

The McCanns, didn't have to follow the rules that their fellow arguido Robert Murat and other arguidos in other cases, had to follow. Their passports were returned to them, they were given permission to fly home on the first available plane and they were even given a police escort to the Algarve airport. They were treated as if they were V.I.P.s instead of the unconvicted criminals that they clearly were.

Regarding the McCanns telling lies, anyone who has followed this case, knows the McCanns have lied from day one. They told the police the shutter was jemmied, which was a lie. They told the police their apartment was locked when they went out, which was a lie. They lied about the frequency of their checks.

The McCanns have done nothing but lie ever since and they will continue to lie, until someone in authority, has the bottle to say enough is enough.

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Re: Gery and Kate are lying

Post  tigger on Mon 23 Apr - 19:23

kathybelle wrote:Alexander Ellis is speaking a load of rot in this article. The British police didn't develop evidence against the McCanns, the McCanns handed evidence over to the PJ, the minute they told them that apart from the first night, their children were left unsupervised, when they went out for the evening. Scotland Yard advised the PJ to make the McCanns suspects, but it was only after they had learned what the PJ already knew.

For reason's best known to the PJ, they didn't follow Scotland Yard's advice. In my opinion it could have been because Gerry had asked for help from his buddy Gordon Brown, before the Portuguese police arrived at their apartment, to investigate Madeleine's disappearance. In my opinion, by the time the PJ eventually made the McCanns arguido's it was just a paper excercise.

The McCanns, didn't have to follow the rules that their fellow arguido Robert Murat and other arguidos in other cases, had to follow. Their passports were returned to them, they were given permission to fly home on the first available plane and they were even given a police escort to the Algarve airport. They were treated as if they were V.I.P.s instead of the unconvicted criminals that they clearly were.

Regarding the McCanns telling lies, anyone who has followed this case, knows the McCanns have lied from day one. They told the police the shutter was jemmied, which was a lie. They told the police their apartment was locked when they went out, which was a lie. They lied about the frequency of their checks.

The McCanns have done nothing but lie ever since and they will continue to lie, until someone in authority, has the bottle to say enough is enough.

Socrates must have been the one who forced the PJ to do all this. He had to - because Gordon Brown had some useful information on him. Corruption I think. Where there's brass there's muck.

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Re: Gery and Kate are lying

Post  cherry1 on Mon 23 Apr - 21:09

I seem to remember it came out early on that the British diplomats first on the scene advised
the government that it looked like the parents may be involved and there were a number of suspicions,
that maybe why Buck left quickly, I think he was told to leave so tey could put some stooge yes man in his place who would go along with the fairy tale that was being concocted.

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Post  marxman on Tue 24 Apr - 7:43

cherry1 wrote:I seem to remember it came out early on that the British diplomats first on the scene advised
the government that it looked like the parents may be involved and there were a number of suspicions,
that maybe why Buck left quickly, I think he was told to leave so tey could put some stooge yes man in his place who would go along with the fairy tale that was being concocted.


An important reminder from the past,
and the diplomatic opinion on the ground
in PDL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-499340/British-diplomat-warned-Foreign-Office-concerns-McCanns.html

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Re: Gery and Kate are lying

Post  chrissie on Tue 24 Apr - 10:48

I also recall the Sheree Dodd stepped down as she did not accept the McCann's version of events. This is all I can find on it at the moment:

http://goncaloamaral.webs.com/investigation.htm

Between May 5 and 12 - Two top people from Control Risks Group (CRG) are dispatched to Praia da Luz, Kenneth Farrow and Michael Keenan. Mr Farrow is the ex-head of the Economic Crime Unit in the City of London Police and Mr Keenan an ex-Superintendent from the Metropolitan Police with specialist fraud and investigative experience. No-one knows how they can help find a missing child, but Jane Tanner admits to speaking to them before she identified Robert Murat as the man with a child she claimed to have seen on 3 May. It is uncertain who promised to pay for them to come out; it could have been the government, or Brian Kennedy. Jane Tanner referred to them as ‘the people Kate and Gerry brought in’.



Also during this time Foreign and Commonwealth Office staff were sent out to Praia da Luz, including Sheree Dodd, who soon returned to London amid reports that she did not accept the McCanns’ claims that Madeleine had been abducted.


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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 24 Apr - 10:51

chrissie wrote:I also recall the Sheree Dodd stepped down as she did not accept the McCann's version of events. This is all I can find on it at the moment:

http://goncaloamaral.webs.com/investigation.htm

Between May 5 and 12 - Two top people from Control Risks Group (CRG) are dispatched to Praia da Luz, Kenneth Farrow and Michael Keenan. Mr Farrow is the ex-head of the Economic Crime Unit in the City of London Police and Mr Keenan an ex-Superintendent from the Metropolitan Police with specialist fraud and investigative experience. No-one knows how they can help find a missing child, but Jane Tanner admits to speaking to them before she identified Robert Murat as the man with a child she claimed to have seen on 3 May. It is uncertain who promised to pay for them to come out; it could have been the government, or Brian Kennedy. Jane Tanner referred to them as ‘the people Kate and Gerry brought in’.



Also during this time Foreign and Commonwealth Office staff were sent out to Praia da Luz, including Sheree Dodd, who soon returned to London amid reports that she did not accept the McCanns’ claims that Madeleine had been abducted.


There was an interview, a few months ago on Radio 4, of someone from CRG about their work. The person being interviewed said they assisted companies who wanted to expand into Developing countries or countries where there could be risks because of the political situation. They also helped those companies get their people out of risky countries if trouble was brewing. Nothing was said about missing children, just controlling risks for companies.

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Post  jd16 on Tue 24 Apr - 11:28

marxman wrote:
An important reminder from the past, and the diplomatic opinion on the ground in PDL
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-499340/British-diplomat-warned-Foreign-Office-concerns-McCanns.html

Take note Scotland yard in your whitewash review

"The diplomat was sent to the holiday resort of Praia da Luz in the days following the four-year-old's disappearance and soon became concerned over "inconsistencies" in the testimonies by her parents and their friends.
After visiting the McCanns, the unnamed diplomat sent a report to the Foreign Office in London, admitting his worries about "confused declarations" of the McCanns' movements on the night of May 3. He also noted the couple's "lack of co-operation" with the Portuguese police. The diplomat's concerns were made over four months before Gerry and Kate were named arguidos (suspects) on September 7.

The then-Prime Minister Tony Blair sent special envoy Sheree Dodd to act as a "media liaison officer" for the pair soon after Madeleine vanished. Ms Dodd has since resigned from the Foreign Office, while the British consul in the Algarve, Bill Henderson, has retired. John Buck, the British ambassador in Portugal, no longer works in the country."


More to add to the list of people who got close to the mccanns that fled the nest!

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Post  Keela on Tue 24 Apr - 14:13

Sheree Dodd and John Buck issue warnings about the nature of the "abduction" and are immediately removed from office.Will SY pick up on these and other departures and question these people as to the true reason for them being removed? Probably not but they could and be given the real reason. On the other hand they could question them and be given the party line.

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