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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  almostgothic on Tue 24 Apr - 22:48

The libel trial is now provisionally set for Sept 13th.

I think Duarte just shoots her mouth off willy-nilly - and I also think that (albeit unwittingly), she has shafted her clients.

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  welshy on Tue 24 Apr - 22:48

tanszi wrote:quickfingers didnt see your post as i was busy writing mine. seems we have similar thoughts on the comments concerning Dr Amaral, his book and comments from Isabel Duarte.

tanzi copied this from JM

Goncalo Amaral Libel Trial - provisional date 13 SEPTEMBER 2012

Post by Tony Bennett on Thu Apr 19, 2012 4:57 pm

«I have today been served with new papers by Carter-Ruck in connection with the committal-to-prison trial on 9 and 10 May [start: 10.00am prompt, Wednesday 9 May].

Amongst the papers supplied is an on-the-record statement by Carter-Ruck Partner, Isabel Hudson, and I quote:

"While my firm is not instructed in the libel proceedings instigated in Portugal by the Claimants [Drs Gerald and Kate McCann] against Goncalo Amaral, I understand that...the case is proceeding to a full libel trial, and that a provisional date of 13 September 2012 has been given for the trial".»

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t4726-goncalo-amaral-libel-trial-provisional-date-13-september-2012


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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  Oldartform on Tue 24 Apr - 22:49

ann_chovey wrote:
pennylane wrote:
Annabel wrote:Videoclip Det Ch Insp Andy Redwood : Madeleine McCann: UK police 'seek to bring closure'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17833729

Thank you Annabel,



Like I said WHITE WASH!!!

Seconded.

Thirded - they`re home and dry.

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  tanszi on Tue 24 Apr - 22:52

re the papers issued to Tony Bennet, what is the significance of advising that the Libel trial claimants K and G McC will continue to full libel trial against Dr G Amaral in September. Does Carter Ruck think that although they do not represent the McCs in Portugal it would have a bearing on TB s case? just seems strange to me.

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  matthew on Tue 24 Apr - 22:57

Call me an eternal optimist but just how can they whitewash with closure for the family,the only evidence i know of Madeleines death is from apartment 5A,the Mccanns hire car & their items of clothing...They cant spend x amount of millions in both countries to conclude...oh yes the Mccanns are right,Maddie was abducted but we dont know by who...
Im in the naive optimist camp

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  Guest on Tue 24 Apr - 22:58

You all missed the significant (for me) part.

"The parents said that when they returned, she was gone."

Not, "When the parents returned, she was gone".

It's right at the start of the clip.

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  matthew on Tue 24 Apr - 22:59

Iris wrote:You all missed the significant (for me) part.

"The parents said that when they returned, she was gone."

Not, "When the parents returned, she was gone".

It's right at the start of the clip.

I noticed that

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  almostgothic on Tue 24 Apr - 23:01

matthew wrote:
Iris wrote:You all missed the significant (for me) part.

"The parents said that when they returned, she was gone."

Not, "When the parents returned, she was gone".

It's right at the start of the clip.

I noticed that

Moi aussi.

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  quickfingers on Tue 24 Apr - 23:04

Yes agreed that is very significant.

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  Oldartform on Tue 24 Apr - 23:05

tanszi wrote:re the papers issued to Tony Bennet, what is the significance of advising that the Libel trial claimants K and G McC will continue to full libel trial against Dr G Amaral in September. Does Carter Ruck think that although they do not represent the McCs in Portugal it would have a bearing on TB s case? just seems strange to me.

CR are aggressive lawyers - they MO is offensive. Their reputation goes before them. Just look who they act for - Scientology being one whose MO is attack, demean, threaten, belittle. I`m sure this was a little reminder to try and unnerve Tony. Its how they work.

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Daily express

Post  welshy on Tue 24 Apr - 23:06

Daily Express Tomorrow. "We have Evidence that may solve Mystery"

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/media-gallery/16215462

Edit to say May not can.

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  Girl_Overboard on Tue 24 Apr - 23:18

I noticed the "the parents said" comment too. Small but significant.

I found the "British police will be awesome where the failing Portuguese police of fail failed miserably" tone to the report insulting, as well as the insinuation that Amaral is trying to make money off the poor helpless McCanns, but on the flipside I hope that them saying that everybody in Portugal believes Amaral's conclusions will make at least some people wonder why that is. My parents don't really follow the case and as far as I know they still believe the abduction line, and they were both shocked by that part in a "why would everybody believe him if there wasn't something in that" kind of way.

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  LJC on Tue 24 Apr - 23:25

For me, closure can only come with the re-opening of the case. I doubt it can come from a review alone. is this what Andy Redwood means? Have they found something which is so significant it could re-open the case? Anything else is just words and is meaningless.

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  matthew on Tue 24 Apr - 23:30

LJC wrote:For me, closure can only come with the re-opening of the case. I doubt it can come from a review alone. is this what Andy Redwood means? Have they found something which is so significant it could re-open the case? Anything else is just words and is meaningless.

There have been murmerings for 2-3 weeks of the case being reopened,so we live in hope that something significant has been discovered...that key piece of information...that missing piece of the jigsaw

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  maive on Tue 24 Apr - 23:37



New evidence???

It could mean «new testimonies»??

From T7??

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  tanszi on Tue 24 Apr - 23:44

so is the daily star going to reveal the new evidence.

Just a thought, is it possible that the conclusions of the SY Review will be used to bash Dr G Amaral in the libel case in September, and was the reason the McCs pushed for the prearranged (jimo) review.

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  jejune on Wed 25 Apr - 0:14

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17828015
This article seems to suggest that the UK review is going to enable this case to be solved. I really hope that it tells us things we don't already know. If it's a rehash of what's in the public arena, or what's in the private detective files, it'll be a complete travesty.

Has taxpayers money been used for one reason, to absolve the McCanns? If the outcome of this review is to 'prove' that they're not involved in what happened to Madeleine, then we need to see real evidence for this. If the review offers up no more proof of what happened than the Portuguese investigation, or we're told that there's no new evidence of what happened to Madeleine McCann, but the parents are innocent, then it'll be obvious that public money has been used in an unprecedented way to support two private individuals.


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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  Loopdaloop on Wed 25 Apr - 0:16

Annabel wrote:Videoclip Det Ch Insp Andy Redwood : Madeleine McCann: UK police 'seek to bring closure'

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17833729


To be honest, my view of that clip is that it was giving a lot of information which is normally only dared mentioned on forums now.
Such as the theory of her death.... The language of the cop was promising for me as was his facial expression.
The emphasis on 'british' as well was used for a reason, to give authority and gravitas to whatever the results are of the investigation.

I really do feel hopeful RE: this and am not feeling a whitewash.
This Panorama episode clip does have the same feel as that of the one broadcast before the Stephen Lawrence murderers were brought to justice.
It is interesting the show was brought forward.... What will be released before then.. whats made it move quicker.... What does the bbc know now which has resulted in a change of scheduling!

Also: I note someone said that it isn't being shown in the north west. Isn't that leicestershire in the north west? Does that not mean that those poor souls in Rothley will not get to see thiis...

Showing this episode so near to The Apprentice will also ensure a huge audience! Prime time!

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  Loopdaloop on Wed 25 Apr - 0:18

welshy wrote: Daily Express Tomorrow. "We have Evidence that may solve Mystery"

http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/media-gallery/16215462

Edit to say May not can.

Maybe i'm tired and over analytical tonight however 'evidence' is an interesting choice of word to highlight.
Is not the term 'we have evidence' a direct response to The Mccann's who always say that 'there is no evidence'

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  Angelique on Wed 25 Apr - 0:18

Try as I might I cannot be positive about this statement to bring closure for the family. It stinks IMO - I do think the misinformation on the clip is ominous.

For me it's is PR for McCanns and possibly to demoralise Goncalo Amaral.

There a lot of it about - this White stuff. It appears the McCanns have friends/connections in every sphere.

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  matthew on Wed 25 Apr - 0:21

The Mirror claim:'We have all the pieces of the jigsaw'...interesting headings,same story but found the following a little cheeky...

A statement on the McCanns’ website last night read: “Madeleine is still missing and someone needs to be looking for her.

"We love her dearly and miss her beyond words.”


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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  HiDeHo on Wed 25 Apr - 0:44

I prefer to give them the benefit of the doubt until I know otherwise, but IF there is a whitewash, then don't forget that 'Twitter' can be very effectively used as it was with The Telegraph and Trafigura.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/6316512/Trafigura-and-Carter-Ruck-end-attempt-to-gag-press-freedom-after-Twitter-uprising.html
Trafigura and Carter-Ruck end attempt to gag press freedom after Twitter uprising

An attempt by the oil firm Trafigura to prevent the British press from reporting on the activities of parliament has been abandoned, after an uprising by users of Twitter.

The Guardian this afternoon said that the law firm Carter-Ruck had ended its bid to ban the newspaper from publishing a parliamentary question about its client, one of the largest oil trading companies in the world.

Trafigura had obtained a gagging order preventing any details of the question posed by Paul Farrelly MP being made public last night, even though it is visible on the House of Commons website.

The order appeared to undermine a long-established law that reports of parliamentary proceedings are protected from legal action.

But there was enough information publicly available for tens of thousands of Twitter users to work out the focus of the injunction and post messages of protest identifying the parties involved.

The terms Trafigura, Carter-Ruck and Guardian were all pushed into the "trending topics" list of most used terms on the site this morning.

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  HiDeHo on Wed 25 Apr - 1:18

Its on the schedule for 7.30pm Wednesday night.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/programmes/schedules/london/today

Can be watched online:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/watchlive/

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Re: It's just been on BBC news 6 pm

Post  Angelique on Wed 25 Apr - 1:22

HiDeHo

Thank you for the link - that is quite uplifting to read.

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