Missing Madeleine
Come join us...there's more inside you cannot see as a guest!

Trial by media?

Page 1 of 2 1, 2  Next

View previous topic View next topic Go down

Trial by media?

Post  marxman on Fri 27 Apr - 19:13

What if, and its a big if, the NSY and the PJ have
united together with one common goal, which is to
bring closure to this case without any potential
legal hurdles or obstructions in the future?
The BBC may have been advised to construct a
semi-fair perspective without stating material facts
or forensic evidence which may scupper a future
court case.
If Panarama had clearly illustrated guilt, or reported
actual forensic evidence to support a guilty verdict
towards any suspect, I believe that this may be
viewed as 'Trial by Media' with a certainty that NO
fair trial could be held in the future, and NO fair and
independent jury could be found either.
With this as a possibility, it may explain a lot of the
crucial facts missing from programme and the reasoning
behind Redwood's plea for an opening to the case.
This, I believe maybe away of the mark, but it does,
I think, view circumstances behind the scene in a
different light.
I would welcome your views. Thanks.


marxman
Platinum Poster
Platinum Poster

Male
Number of posts : 1122
Location : In the dog house
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2011-02-28

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  ShabbyTiger on Fri 27 Apr - 19:21

Some good points,,, but after hearing Redwood state on TV that it was a stranger abduction, and Amaral's recent comments in his TV interview I think that this case is finished, IMO. They have got away with it.

ShabbyTiger
Elite Member
Elite Member

Number of posts : 325
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2010-10-03

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  Guest on Fri 27 Apr - 19:22

As I've said (almost as a lone voice of optimism) in several other Threads, neither the Review nor any Investigation are going to be subject to day-by-day public scrutiny - and quite rightly so - and I think that is very very important to consider what was not said as well as what was said.

Of what was said, I still see no fawning over Healy & McCann and thought that, without making accusations or spilling the beans, it gave much cause for optimism.

I'm quite saddened that many friends here (albeit understandably) have gone with the here and now and reacted badly to lots of little snippets - But why give succour to those who swallow the gospel according to St.Gerald?

ie If we truly do believe that Madeleine died (albeit "accidentally") in 5A, then ignore all the fluff and keep loudly proclaiming the message - More "HiDeHo"................... Less "HideAway"


Last edited by The End Is Nigh on Fri 27 Apr - 19:31; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : Tinkering)

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  maive on Fri 27 Apr - 19:28

I agree with you, it's what I think also..

I have just read that message on the other forum, it makes a lot of sense IMO. (Sorry if it's not allowed to do that)

*****

The Portuguese shelved the case.

The McCanns scarpered and didn't request the investigation stayed open.

The McCanns asked David Cameron for a review and have publicly stated they want the case reopened.

The SY say they have new evidence and want the case reopened.

The Portuguese say there is nothing that warrants the case being reopened.

Surely the ball is in the McCanns court now to request the case is reopened?

Could that be what the SY are doing? Trying to force the McCanns to request the reopening?


If they don't then why not? The SY say they have new evidence and the Portuguese want new evidence to reopen. So now it's up to the McC's to do the decent thing.

And if they don't, then why not?


Last edited by maive on Fri 27 Apr - 19:40; edited 1 time in total

maive
Rookie
Rookie

Female
Number of posts : 146
Location : Quebec
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2011-06-22

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  marxman on Fri 27 Apr - 19:30

ShabbyTiger wrote:Some good points,,, but after hearing Redwood state on TV that it was a stranger abduction, and Amaral's recent comments in his TV interview I think that this case is finished, IMO. They have got away with it.

Hi Shabbytiger, but could he really have stated it was so and so?
The 'stranger' abduction maybe a ruse. To state a culprit on TV
without due process would most surely destroy any possible legal
conviction. I'm now gravitating towards something big happening
soon and within the confines of a courtroom, free from media
intrusion and any possible counter claim for a trial by a bias media.

marxman
Platinum Poster
Platinum Poster

Male
Number of posts : 1122
Location : In the dog house
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2011-02-28

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  Guest on Fri 27 Apr - 19:32

marxman wrote:
ShabbyTiger wrote:Some good points,,, but after hearing Redwood state on TV that it was a stranger abduction, and Amaral's recent comments in his TV interview I think that this case is finished, IMO. They have got away with it.

Hi Shabbytiger, but could he really have stated it was so and so?
The 'stranger' abduction maybe a ruse. To state a culprit on TV
without due process would most surely destroy any possible legal
conviction. I'm now gravitating towards something big happening
soon and within the confines of a courtroom, free from media
intrusion and any possible counter claim for a trial by a bias media
.


Again, I said as much yesterday: "Going Large" is the buzz.

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  ShabbyTiger on Fri 27 Apr - 19:41

marxman wrote:
ShabbyTiger wrote:Some good points,,, but after hearing Redwood state on TV that it was a stranger abduction, and Amaral's recent comments in his TV interview I think that this case is finished, IMO. They have got away with it.

Hi Shabbytiger, but could he really have stated it was so and so?
The 'stranger' abduction maybe a ruse. To state a culprit on TV
without due process would most surely destroy any possible legal
conviction. I'm now gravitating towards something big happening
soon and within the confines of a courtroom, free from media
intrusion and any possible counter claim for a trial by a bias media.

HI marxman. IMO Redwood should remained completely neutral IMO. "The inquiry is progressing with co-operation from the PJ" would have been sufficient. I could, just, have believed that SY were playing a blinder and lulling the Tapas crew into a false sense of security.... until I read Amaral's comments about the English only wanting to look at abduction. Sorry to be negative but IMO they have got away with it and are untouchable. I'm almost at the end of the line with this now.

ShabbyTiger
Elite Member
Elite Member

Number of posts : 325
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2010-10-03

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  mossman on Fri 27 Apr - 19:42

marxman wrote:What if, and its a big if, the NSY and the PJ have
united together with one common goal, which is to
bring closure to this case without any potential
legal hurdles or obstructions in the future?
The BBC may have been advised to construct a
semi-fair perspective without stating material facts
or forensic evidence which may scupper a future
court case.
If Panarama had clearly illustrated guilt, or reported
actual forensic evidence to support a guilty verdict
towards any suspect, I believe that this may be
viewed as 'Trial by Media' with a certainty that NO
fair trial could be held in the future, and NO fair and
independent jury could be found either.
With this as a possibility, it may explain a lot of the
crucial facts missing from programme and the reasoning
behind Redwood's plea for an opening to the case.
This, I believe maybe away of the mark, but it does,
I think, view circumstances behind the scene in a
different light.
I would welcome your views. Thanks.


I would agree with you and indeed your comments are along the lines of some I have made recently on many of the other threads, but much more eloquently stated.

Somebody here made a very good pont after the Panorama programme and the PJ admitting they had made mistakes. If they do not admit they made mistakes, it may not be so easy to re-open the investigation.

By taking as fact what we have read in the press about Portugal's current stance in this, we are almost endorsing what the press is saying about them being useless. I think we need to give them more credit than that and see that they could well be playing hard ball with SY in order to achieve the results they want, on their terms, because they know the truth.

We cannot expect overnight change and we most certainly cannot expect SY or the PJ or indeed anybody else to come out at this point in time and suggest the McCanns are guilty. It is not an open investigation and apart from that they will surely have to accord with the good old "innocent until proven guilty" stance.

What is printed in the press needs to be discounted totally. We should not read it or have regard to it in any way shape or form. Twitter would be a more reliable source of information, imo.

The media will be pro McCann until the very last word has been spoken by a judge at a trial in this matter. Then the tide will turn, but that is some time away.

I am very optomistic, there are many positives, of course not as many as we would wish for but there has been great change in the past week. The Panorama programme was never going to be a documentary on the evidence of the case that points to the McCanns guilt. It could not be in the interest of fairness. In comparison with what we have had to endure in the past, it was refreshing.

It will be a slow process, but I have feeling at long last word is spreading, sites such as this, twitter and others are being read and noted. They are alive with comments and more people are speaking out. I could say if that stops the McCanns win. But actually if that stops then Madeleine looses. It is not about the McCanns it is about Madeleine.

Never underestimate the power of what is written in places such as this.

If we give up on Madeleine, and that is what this is about, then she is lost forever. Her body may never be found, but the answers can be found, that is without doubt possible. It is the least she deserves.


TEIN do not feel alone in your optimism, you are definately not on your own.

mossman
Platinum Poster
Platinum Poster

Number of posts : 1639
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2011-05-25

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  marxman on Fri 27 Apr - 19:43

The End Is Nigh wrote:
marxman wrote:
ShabbyTiger wrote:Some good points,,, but after hearing Redwood state on TV that it was a stranger abduction, and Amaral's recent comments in his TV interview I think that this case is finished, IMO. They have got away with it.

Hi Shabbytiger, but could he really have stated it was so and so?
The 'stranger' abduction maybe a ruse. To state a culprit on TV
without due process would most surely destroy any possible legal
conviction. I'm now gravitating towards something big happening
soon and within the confines of a courtroom, free from media
intrusion and any possible counter claim for a trial by a bias media
.


Again, I said as much yesterday: "Going Large" is the buzz.

Hi TEIN, I recorded the Pan-doc and watched it
a couple of times and it was the 'sniffer' dogs
and finding DNA that raised my hopes.
This was such a schoolboy/girl error that made
me safely sure that it was intentional.
Not to provide actual factual evidence in a
forthcoming criminal case.

marxman
Platinum Poster
Platinum Poster

Male
Number of posts : 1122
Location : In the dog house
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2011-02-28

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  maive on Fri 27 Apr - 19:50

mossman wrote:

I would agree with you and indeed your comments are along the lines of some I have made recently on many of the other threads, but much more eloquently stated.

Somebody here made a very good pont after the Panorama programme and the PJ admitting they had made mistakes. If they do not admit they made mistakes, it may not be so easy to re-open the investigation.

By taking as fact what we have read in the press about Portugal's current stance in this, we are almost endorsing what the press is saying about them being useless. I think we need to give them more credit than that and see that they could well be playing hard ball with SY in order to achieve the results they want, on their terms, because they know the truth.

We cannot expect overnight change and we most certainly cannot expect SY or the PJ or indeed anybody else to come out at this point in time and suggest the McCanns are guilty. It is not an open investigation and apart from that they will surely have to accord with the good old "innocent until proven guilty" stance.

What is printed in the press needs to be discounted totally. We should not read it or have regard to it in any way shape or form. Twitter would be a more reliable source of information, imo.

The media will be pro McCann until the very last word has been spoken by a judge at a trial in this matter. Then the tide will turn, but that is some time away.

I am very optomistic, there are many positives, of course not as many as we would wish for but there has been great change in the past week. The Panorama programme was never going to be a documentary on the evidence of the case that points to the McCanns guilt. It could not be in the interest of fairness. In comparison with what we have had to endure in the past, it was refreshing.

It will be a slow process, but I have feeling at long last word is spreading, sites such as this, twitter and others are being read and noted. They are alive with comments and more people are speaking out. I could say if that stops the McCanns win. But actually if that stops then Madeleine looses. It is not about the McCanns it is about Madeleine.

Never underestimate the power of what is written in places such as this.

If we give up on Madeleine, and that is what this is about, then she is lost forever. Her body may never be found, but the answers can be found, that is without doubt possible. It is the least she deserves.


TEIN do not feel alone in your optimism, you are definately not on your own.

An amazing post mossman, as usual.

You are able to express in English my thoughts, my wishes and my optimism about the last events. Thank you so much

maive
Rookie
Rookie

Female
Number of posts : 146
Location : Quebec
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2011-06-22

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  almostgothic on Fri 27 Apr - 19:50

To see a TV programme featuring a lead investigator and others exhibiting a tedious blandness is ultra-irritating for those armed with a shedload of knowledge. Not to mention the xenophobic, inaccurate screechings and blubberings of the pig-ignorant hacks which followed it.
But maybe there were two target audiences - the general public and a small group with a vested interest.

We wanted rum and raisin or raspberry ripple - hell, a few chopped nuts would have been good, but we got vanilla instead.
But vanilla it has to be.

Tell the truth and they're on speed dial to McBride and Caplan.
Or taking a fast canoe to Panama.

Tell them what they want to hear.
It's safer.
Madly infuriating, but safer.



almostgothic
Platinum Poster
Platinum Poster

Number of posts : 2945
Location : Lost in the barrio
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2011-03-18

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  kathybelle on Fri 27 Apr - 19:51

maive wrote:I agree with you, it's what I think also..

I have just read that message on the other forum, it makes a lot of sense IMO. (Sorry if it's not allowed to do that)

*****

The Portuguese shelved the case.

The McCanns scarpered and didn't request the investigation stayed open.

The McCanns asked David Cameron for a review and have publicly stated they want the case reopened.

The SY say they have new evidence and want the case reopened.

The Portuguese say there is nothing that warrants the case being reopened.

Surely the ball is in the McCanns court now to request the case is reopened?

Could that be what the SY are doing? Trying to force the McCanns to request the reopening?


If they don't then why not? The SY say they have new evidence and the Portuguese want new evidence to reopen. So now it's up to the McC's to do the decent thing.

And if they don't, then why not?

kathybelle
Platinum Poster
Platinum Poster

Female
Number of posts : 1696
Age : 70
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2010-02-04

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  matthew on Fri 27 Apr - 19:53

Great post Mossman...you quoted-It is not about the McCanns it is about Madeleine.

So no ones leaving...right

matthew
Golden Poster
Golden Poster

Male
Number of posts : 967
Age : 44
Location : holywell
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2011-03-10

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  marxman on Fri 27 Apr - 19:58

ShabbyTiger wrote:
marxman wrote:
ShabbyTiger wrote:Some good points,,, but after hearing Redwood state on TV that it was a stranger abduction, and Amaral's recent comments in his TV interview I think that this case is finished, IMO. They have got away with it.

Hi Shabbytiger, but could he really have stated it was so and so?
The 'stranger' abduction maybe a ruse. To state a culprit on TV
without due process would most surely destroy any possible legal
conviction. I'm now gravitating towards something big happening
soon and within the confines of a courtroom, free from media
intrusion and any possible counter claim for a trial by a bias media.

HI marxman. IMO Redwood should remained completely neutral IMO. "The inquiry is progressing with co-operation from the PJ" would have been sufficient. I could, just, have believed that SY were playing a blinder and lulling the Tapas crew into a false sense of security.... until I read Amaral's comments about the English only wanting to look at abduction. Sorry to be negative but IMO they have got away with it and are untouchable. I'm almost at the end of the line with this now.

I can understand your frustration but can I be
so bold as to ask you to stay the course?
Just think of the diplomatic fall=out between
the UK and of it's oldest ally if this case is
not resolved?
Most of the sensible people of Portugal are
proud of their national advances and in their
police. Do you think they will settle for a
NSY whitewash or their proud PJ being seen
as second rate behind a UK police review?
Never!

marxman
Platinum Poster
Platinum Poster

Male
Number of posts : 1122
Location : In the dog house
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2011-02-28

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  mossman on Fri 27 Apr - 19:58

kathybelle wrote:
maive wrote:I agree with you, it's what I think also..

I have just read that message on the other forum, it makes a lot of sense IMO. (Sorry if it's not allowed to do that)

*****

The Portuguese shelved the case.

The McCanns scarpered and didn't request the investigation stayed open.

The McCanns asked David Cameron for a review and have publicly stated they want the case reopened.

The SY say they have new evidence and want the case reopened.

The Portuguese say there is nothing that warrants the case being reopened.

Surely the ball is in the McCanns court now to request the case is reopened?

Could that be what the SY are doing? Trying to force the McCanns to request the reopening?


If they don't then why not? The SY say they have new evidence and the Portuguese want new evidence to reopen. So now it's up to the McC's to do the decent thing.

And if they don't, then why not?


Kathybelle, that is a hugely important point, imo. Where is the mother and father, in a state of breakdown, begging on bended knees for the Portugese to re-open the case ?

I have only been able to quickly check in here the past few days, but unless I have missed it, we have not heard that word from the McCanns. I saw a comment where their spokesperson said something very vague like they agree with SY have said. That could mean any part or all. No statment on the re-opening, surely the most important point that has been made this past week ?

Have faith in the PJ for now folks. They are not the stupid idiots portrayed by Press, do not fall into that trap. Until such time as I see and hear from the Portugese authorities themselves, I will remain of the belief they know what they are doing.

mossman
Platinum Poster
Platinum Poster

Number of posts : 1639
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2011-05-25

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  kathybelle on Fri 27 Apr - 19:58

The McCanns were never going to ask for the case to be reopened, because if Goncalo Amaral was speaking the truth and I have no reason to believe he wasn't, he said the McCanns requested the case was closed. Or to use his exact words, they demanded the archiving of the process in 2008, when they were arguidos.


kathybelle
Platinum Poster
Platinum Poster

Female
Number of posts : 1696
Age : 70
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2010-02-04

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  marxman on Fri 27 Apr - 20:00

mossman wrote:
marxman wrote:What if, and its a big if, the NSY and the PJ have
united together with one common goal, which is to
bring closure to this case without any potential
legal hurdles or obstructions in the future?
The BBC may have been advised to construct a
semi-fair perspective without stating material facts
or forensic evidence which may scupper a future
court case.
If Panarama had clearly illustrated guilt, or reported
actual forensic evidence to support a guilty verdict
towards any suspect, I believe that this may be
viewed as 'Trial by Media' with a certainty that NO
fair trial could be held in the future, and NO fair and
independent jury could be found either.
With this as a possibility, it may explain a lot of the
crucial facts missing from programme and the reasoning
behind Redwood's plea for an opening to the case.
This, I believe maybe away of the mark, but it does,
I think, view circumstances behind the scene in a
different light.
I would welcome your views. Thanks.


I would agree with you and indeed your comments are along the lines of some I have made recently on many of the other threads, but much more eloquently stated.

Somebody here made a very good pont after the Panorama programme and the PJ admitting they had made mistakes. If they do not admit they made mistakes, it may not be so easy to re-open the investigation.

By taking as fact what we have read in the press about Portugal's current stance in this, we are almost endorsing what the press is saying about them being useless. I think we need to give them more credit than that and see that they could well be playing hard ball with SY in order to achieve the results they want, on their terms, because they know the truth.

We cannot expect overnight change and we most certainly cannot expect SY or the PJ or indeed anybody else to come out at this point in time and suggest the McCanns are guilty. It is not an open investigation and apart from that they will surely have to accord with the good old "innocent until proven guilty" stance.

What is printed in the press needs to be discounted totally. We should not read it or have regard to it in any way shape or form. Twitter would be a more reliable source of information, imo.

The media will be pro McCann until the very last word has been spoken by a judge at a trial in this matter. Then the tide will turn, but that is some time away.

I am very optomistic, there are many positives, of course not as many as we would wish for but there has been great change in the past week. The Panorama programme was never going to be a documentary on the evidence of the case that points to the McCanns guilt. It could not be in the interest of fairness. In comparison with what we have had to endure in the past, it was refreshing.

It will be a slow process, but I have feeling at long last word is spreading, sites such as this, twitter and others are being read and noted. They are alive with comments and more people are speaking out. I could say if that stops the McCanns win. But actually if that stops then Madeleine looses. It is not about the McCanns it is about Madeleine.

Never underestimate the power of what is written in places such as this.

If we give up on Madeleine, and that is what this is about, then she is lost forever. Her body may never be found, but the answers can be found, that is without doubt possible. It is the least she deserves.


TEIN do not feel alone in your optimism, you are definately not on your own.

Great post Mossman as always

marxman
Platinum Poster
Platinum Poster

Male
Number of posts : 1122
Location : In the dog house
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2011-02-28

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  Guest on Fri 27 Apr - 20:02

@ marxman:

That business about the Dogs and DNA most certainly could have been deliberate - I do see that stating what we consider fact ie Cadaver odour in all the "right" places would be massively prejudicial, in principle.

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  marxman on Fri 27 Apr - 20:10

The End Is Nigh wrote:@ marxman:

That business about the Dogs and DNA most certainly could have been deliberate - I do see that stating what we consider fact ie Cadaver odour in all the "right" places would be massively prejudicial, in principle.

Yes indeed, prejudicial with a large dash of libel me thinks.

Furthermore, you get a 'top cop' within the NSY asking that
the case be re-opened! If I'm not wrong, this would entail the
McCanns and Co taking part in a reconstruction and fully
co=operating and answering questions. In no uncertain terms
this is applying pressure on team Mccann and ironically giving
them what they aked for never expected.
All just my opinion of course.

marxman
Platinum Poster
Platinum Poster

Male
Number of posts : 1122
Location : In the dog house
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2011-02-28

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  Guest on Fri 27 Apr - 20:13

You and I and, happily, a growing band (it seems) speak with the same voice

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  ShabbyTiger on Fri 27 Apr - 20:14

marxman wrote:
I can understand your frustration but can I be
so bold as to ask you to stay the course?
Just think of the diplomatic fall=out between
the UK and of it's oldest ally if this case is
not resolved?
Most of the sensible people of Portugal are
proud of their national advances and in their
police. Do you think they will settle for a
NSY whitewash or their proud PJ being seen
as second rate behind a UK police review?
Never!

Thanks for your words of encouragement. I didn't expect Redwood to come out and say the McCs were guilty.... I expected him, in that great police tradition, to be deadpan and neutral and to "give nothing away". So for him to turn round and say that he and his senior colleagues were "satsfied that this was a stranger abduction" was a real killer for me.

ShabbyTiger
Elite Member
Elite Member

Number of posts : 325
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2010-10-03

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  marxman on Fri 27 Apr - 20:22

ShabbyTiger wrote:
marxman wrote:
I can understand your frustration but can I be
so bold as to ask you to stay the course?
Just think of the diplomatic fall=out between
the UK and of it's oldest ally if this case is
not resolved?
Most of the sensible people of Portugal are
proud of their national advances and in their
police. Do you think they will settle for a
NSY whitewash or their proud PJ being seen
as second rate behind a UK police review?
Never!

Thanks for your words of encouragement. I didn't expect Redwood to come out and say the McCs were guilty.... I expected him, in that great police tradition, to be deadpan and neutral and to "give nothing away". So for him to turn round and say that he and his senior colleagues were "satsfied that this was a stranger abduction" was a real killer for me.

So Shabbytiger you agree that Redwood couldn't
point the finger at a suspect on TV?
Therefore, 'stranger' replaces 'person or persons
unknown' because he had to stay as neutral as
he could without giving anything away.


marxman
Platinum Poster
Platinum Poster

Male
Number of posts : 1122
Location : In the dog house
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2011-02-28

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  ShabbyTiger on Fri 27 Apr - 20:30

marxman wrote:

So Shabbytiger you agree that Redwood couldn't
point the finger at a suspect on TV?
Therefore, 'stranger' replaces 'person or persons
unknown' because he had to stay as neutral as
he could without giving anything away.


You make an excellent point there. However, I fear that PT Co-operation may be withdrawn after this debacle... they have collaborated and now it has been thrown back in their faces by Redwood yaking to the press. Xenophobic PT bashing all over the UK press.

All Andy Pandy has done in my view is to give fuel to the McC's abduction lie. And I fear that they may try and use this in the upcoming libel trial.

I'm very sorry if I am being all negative but I just think that this thing is rotten to the core, corruption all the way up to the top and there is not a single thing that we can do to stop it.


Last edited by ShabbyTiger on Fri 27 Apr - 20:31; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : messed up quotes!)

ShabbyTiger
Elite Member
Elite Member

Number of posts : 325
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2010-10-03

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  kathybelle on Fri 27 Apr - 20:35

Maybe DCI Redwood is giving the McCanns enough rope to hang themselves. However, he should not have said it was a privilege to help the McCanns, I can imagine Ben Needhams mum and mums of other missing children, whose children have not gone missing because of their neglect, being really upset. Especially when they haven't had the help the "gruesome twosome have had."

In my opinion, DCI Redwood was bang out of order when he made that crass statement. It was unprofessional conduct from a police officer, who has almost reached the top of his profession. I hope his superior carpets him for making that statement.

kathybelle
Platinum Poster
Platinum Poster

Female
Number of posts : 1696
Age : 70
Warning :
0 / 1000 / 100

Registration date : 2010-02-04

Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  Guest on Fri 27 Apr - 20:36

How can corruption be so widespread, in reality?

I don't see it - there has to be a critical mass.

And all it takes is one bad day for a lower order conspirator and the whistle is well and truly blown.

I don't buy it. I've never bought it.

Guest
Guest


Back to top Go down

Re: Trial by media?

Post  Sponsored content Today at 16:04


Sponsored content


Back to top Go down

Page 1 of 2 1, 2  Next

View previous topic View next topic Back to top

- Similar topics

 
Permissions in this forum:
You cannot reply to topics in this forum