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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Mon 15 Apr - 12:27

This interview has cropped up as a new topic. He reminds me most of a younger William Shatner - somebody beam him up before he makes a prat of himself again!

What a sane, sober bunch of people throw their lot in with the McCanns.......

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard.

Post  weissnicht on Mon 15 Apr - 15:21

dutchclogs wrote:
almostgothic wrote:
Iris wrote:He colluded in a deliberate deception and subjected his own little daughter to a distressing situation, to lie for the McCanns, He disgusts me and is no man of God.

Well said!




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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard.

Post  kitti on Mon 15 Apr - 16:05

Well I think it's a bit coincidental that their is already a priest there yet Hubbard, who is supposedly a friend off the mccanns, how i dont know cos he lives in canada, jets all the way from Canada to take up a place where another priest is 'moved on'...

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard.

Post  margaret on Mon 15 Apr - 16:27

mumbles wrote:

I don't trust anyone who crosses their arms in front of them to be interviewed. Classic signs of holding something back, hiding behind something.

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard.

Post  Not Born Yesterday on Mon 15 Apr - 16:42

Well, he did need to make sure that we all noticed the good quality wristband he was wearing!

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard.

Post  wantthetruth on Mon 15 Apr - 17:03

margaret wrote:
mumbles wrote:

I don't trust anyone who crosses their arms in front of them to be interviewed. Classic signs of holding something back, hiding behind something.

Ever heard of Joe Navarro ?......he'd have a field day with this interview!!

It was painful to watch.

Oh, and he fluffed his lines at one point....

They have two beautiful children (shuffles) well, three....they just haven't seen one for five years....

Oh dear. Don't give up your day job!!

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Post  interested on Mon 15 Apr - 17:08

What I find fascinating is that the Catholic McCanns formed such a close relationship with this Anglican clergyman who over the years has given several interviews. The McCanns appear to have distanced themselves from the Catholic priest who rightly so is bound by the seal of confession. He is duty bound not to disclose anything he may have learned from the penitents; perhaps that is why he has distanced himself from them.

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard.

Post  malena stool on Mon 15 Apr - 19:38

Like kitti says, he looks as if he's been at the altar plonk

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard.

Post  tigger on Mon 15 Apr - 21:15

Iris wrote:He colluded in a deliberate deception and subjected his own little daughter to a distressing situation, to lie for the McCanns, He disgusts me and is no man of God.

I'll try and look it up, but I've never heard that before. Can you tell me where I can find it?

'Father' Hubbard as he's called didn't once mention prayer, looks more like the type who'd be a chaplain and like Margaret, I think he got there on the 6th of May very promptly, his wife and children still in Canada.

Below is a link to a Guardian radio interview on which I've commented. Well worth listening to - this was April 2008!


http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/audio/2008/apr/18/adddley.mccann


Snippets:
..that something so horrific had happened literally in our own backyard...
(there’s that damn backyard again - same one even!)

....not until we had a chance to come into Gerry and Kate McCann’s presence that we started to be affected by it. (coming into the presence of Gods? What’s going on here?)

press) .. they coped with it , allowing that utter invasion etc. ( doesn’t agree with either the blog or the diary - press was standing by waiting for arranged photo opportunities, interviews were arranged and rehearsed - all according to diary and blog)

(Rev. Hubbard is using the word ‘silly’ many, many times).
....once we were privileged to know a couple that were grieving
.....the silliness of these stories......

My wife - when we first came it was really awful -- she’d go to bed every night crying and double locking the doors and the windows. (Errm. vicars’ wife? didn’t praying help? In fact prayer or praying isn’t mentioned in this interview!)

Your fear abates etc. when we would watch the news and see the helicopters and turn the news off and still hear the helicopters fluttering around.
(that would be the Royal Navy then since Gerry stated firmly that there were NO helicopters).
unquote

April 2008 - they've just managed to avoid being interviewed in the Rogatories. Still arguidos, newspapers silenced, compensation arranged.
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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard.

Post  Guest on Mon 15 Apr - 21:24

Tigger, it was when they were making the mockumentary - you know, the one where all the scenes of "Kate" ended up on the cutting room floor.

The Hubbards' little daughter, of a similar age and colouring, was drafted in to play "Maddie". It was reported that the filming upset her and had to be postponed for a while until she calmed down. I forget where I read it but I do remember that there were photographs of the filming, there was one of the child's mother trying to comfort her as she was clearly in some distress.

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Post  Guest on Mon 15 Apr - 21:29

"Father" Hubbard mentions the "Church" several times, but he always describes it as "this building". Whereas every Christian denomination I have ever come across, the minister will refer to the Church as meaning the congregation, the people who make it up. When we talk of a "broad church" we mean a group of people with different viewpoints. Why does he keep stressing that he means the physical building?

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Post  Guest on Mon 15 Apr - 21:31

Didn't somebody on the 3As research this and it turned out that the Hubbards were from some place quite near where Kate's auntie lives?

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard.

Post  Bobsy on Mon 15 Apr - 22:04

Here is a picture of the Hubbards arriving at Faro Airport, page 8 http://europe.anglican.org/downloads/resources/tea-magazine/DE2834_European_Anglican_34_web.pdf

Did they move straight into the tied property or was it still being reformed for the families needs?

Seems Haynes Hubbard is still around in Europe,

http://europe.anglican.org/downloads/Synod%20yellow.pdf

Page 12, sorry will not c/p The Rev. Haynes Hubbard (Gibralter) I thought he and his wife had returned to Canada

Wow friends in very high places, http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/PRIESTS.htm


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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard.

Post  interested on Tue 16 Apr - 1:01

The "wig.com" site of the Kingston Wig-Standard newspaper, Kingston, Ontario, Canada has an article dated April 14, 2013 entitled "Remembering Madelein McCann".

The accompanying picture shows Susan and Haynes Hubbard with a picture of Madeleine. It indicates Susan will be travel to Portugal next month to hold a vigil for Madeleine.


Maybe someone much more tech-savy can post the entire article complete with comments.

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard.

Post  weissnicht on Tue 16 Apr - 4:42

Iris wrote:Tigger, it was when they were making the mockumentary - you know, the one where all the scenes of "Kate" ended up on the cutting room floor.

The Hubbards' little daughter, of a similar age and colouring, was drafted in to play "Maddie". It was reported that the filming upset her and had to be postponed for a while until she calmed down. I forget where I read it but I do remember that there were photographs of the filming, there was one of the child's mother trying to comfort her as she was clearly in some distress.
Yes, I think it was a film of a UK film crew, filming the filming of the mockumentary. The little girl was in distress, no doubt. Horrible people. Same film was showing also Tanner in tears.

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard.

Post  T4two on Tue 16 Apr - 10:04

interested wrote:The "wig.com" site of the Kingston Wig-Standard newspaper, Kingston, Ontario, Canada has an article dated April 14, 2013 entitled "Remembering Madelein McCann".

The accompanying picture shows Susan and Haynes Hubbard with a picture of Madeleine. It indicates Susan will be travel to Portugal next month to hold a vigil for Madeleine.


Maybe someone much more tech-savy can post the entire article complete with comments.

http://www.thewhig.com/2013/04/14/remembering-madeleine

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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard.

Post  kitti on Tue 16 Apr - 10:23

Kate McCann: 'We will never have rest or peace until we know what happened to Madeleine'  

Kate McCann did something frighteningly normal the other day.

She stopped at a petrol station, filled up, locked the car and went in to pay, leaving her eight-year-old twins, Sean and Amelie, strapped in the back seat. As she stood anxiously at the till, they pulled faces at her through the window.

“It was the first time in six years that I have been able to do that,” she says. “I was very conscious of what I was doing. I left them behind for a few moments. All the time they were in view. They used to protest when I took them inside with me to pay, though they knew it was, as Sean once said, “because someone might take me”.

It is almost exactly six years since their older sister, Madeleine, vanished while on a family holiday in Portugal and became the focus of one of the most intense, prolonged and high-profile public campaigns ever mounted to find a missing person. In that time, and despite many investigations and false accusations – the most hellish being that the McCanns were themselves implicated in their daughter’s disappearance – not a single piece of evidence has emerged to show that she is dead.
Kate and Gerry McCann, balancing realism and optimism, believe it is possible that their daughter, just a few days from her fourth birthday when she was abducted, will be found. How else would they go on?
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“As there is nothing to suggest that Madeleine is not alive,” says Kate, “we have to keep looking for her. We all know there are cases of missing children, presumed dead, who have been found alive years, sometimes decades, later.”
Little by little, they have schooled themselves not to dwell on the lurid possibilities that tormented them in the early days – that their daughter had been snatched by a paedophile network or met with a cruel death – but they are never free of questions, and sometimes they are ambushed by old fears.
“None of the scenarios is good when your child has been taken,” she says. “You’re in a dark place some of the time. You get upset. You get angry. I have spent hours thinking of the possibilities. Do I want to know what happened? I’ve sat myself down and asked myself: if you knew and it was truly awful, would that help?”
Her familiar sharp-boned face looks weary. At 45 she is pretty, but lines of anxiety show at her mouth and crease her forehead. She seems poised, not in a studied way but like a person suspended. Although she says she and Gerry are “in a better place” than at any time since Madeleine was taken, her sentences sound as though they are coming from a long way off.
“Living in limbo with this void and uncertainty is truly dreadful. It’s hard to rest, to find peace. It’s unsettling and uncomfortable all the time. Even on a 'good’ day, that feeling is lurking. And of course you can never stop until you know; you’re on a treadmill you can’t get off. It’s draining. Until you know, there is no true peace. We need to know for us and we need to know for Sean and Amelie so that, God forbid, in another 10 years or so they don’t have to cope with this distressing limbo, too.”
For the moment, Madeleine is as real to them, and to the whole family, as an absent person could be. They talk about her all the time, observe her birthdays with a party and gifts, give her Christmas presents and fill a keepsake box with things they think she would like – drawings, school work, sweets, a leaf. Kate fills Christmas stockings for three. “There is part of me that has to do it.”
There are photographs of Madeleine everywhere. Her room at the family home in Rothley, Leicestershire, is as she left it when they went on holiday, plus the unopened presents.
Kate opens and closes the curtains twice a day and sometimes stays to absorb what she can of Madeleine. It is not what everyone would choose to do, she agrees, but it is her way. Sean and Amelie still share a bedroom. Soon there will be the practical issue of what to do with a “spare” room one of them may need. “But that was the room she left and it would be familiar to her. It would be hard to dismantle it.” Gerry, 44, a cardiologist, has a more practical turn of mind. “So in time we may perhaps look at it differently.”
The twins’ understanding of what happened in Praia da Luz on the night of May 3 2007 is matter-of-fact and unafraid. “We explain it like a burglary,” says Kate. “You must never take something that doesn’t belong to you. Madeleine belonged to our family and someone who had no right to her took her away. We also explain that this is very rare. It doesn’t happen every day.”
Touchingly, the parents’ protectiveness and resolve is echoed by their children. When Sean was little more than a toddler, he reassured them: “Me and Amelie will go on looking for Madeleine.”
At school, they talk about their missing sister to other people. “I have to ask: 'Is this all right?’” says Kate. “Because I know some people like to pretend it didn’t happen and the world’s a lovely place.”
Throughout that disbelieving summer, the international news was dominated by a single crime and a single small face. Madeleine was snatched from her bed between regular checks made by her parents, who were dining with friends in a tapas bar 50 metres away from the apartment. They thought the arrangement was so normal, so ideal, that they never questioned it, and plenty of sympathetic parents told them they would have done exactly the same. There were accusations of neglect, too, but no one was harder on the couple than they were themselves.
“We thought we had worked out the best plan,” Kate says. “It seems very different now. I have persecuted myself about that decision for years, even though deep down I knew I was a caring parent and how much I loved my children.”
In the early months, even years, she despised her daughter’s unknown thief. “The thought of her feeling fear and wanting and needing her mummy and daddy provoked so much pain. It still does, when I wander down that particular path.”
Kate is a practising Catholic, and when asked about forgiveness she used to say she needed to understand the motive. Now, tentatively, she feels differently.
“I think I could probably forgive Madeleine’s abductor whatever the circumstances. I don’t know whether it’s simply because I’m stronger or because there’s no benefit in not forgiving someone. I can’t change anything and I don’t want to be eaten up by hatred and bitterness. And maybe there is an element of pity – what kind of person could do something like this? Of course, forgiveness will always be easier if there is remorse.”
The Scotland Yard review of the case, set up two years ago, has brought the McCanns a degree of equanimity because it relieves them of the burden of maintaining the search through private investigators.
“Emotionally, it helps,” Kate says. “We were doing so much ourselves. Now at least it is not totally down to us. We have been able to switch off a little bit. If we go away, we know there is work going on. We are encouraged by what the Met team has done and found. They have uncovered so much.”
Thirty officers are working full-time on Operation Grange. “As time goes on, it is hard to maintain the level of motivation but, if anything, they are more determined now. But we still want the Portuguese police to reopen the investigation [closed in July 2008]. We want to find our daughter and the person who committed this very serious crime. This case needs to be solved. Why would anyone not want to solve it?”
Meantime, there is no let-up in the McCanns’ fundraising and awareness campaign Find Madeleine (whose 10th birthday is on May 12). Their all-consuming focus is, and has been, astonishing. Kate, a former GP, has become an ambassador for the charity Missing People, which supports the families of some of the 250,000 who go missing in Britain each year. A transition, maybe, from personal grief to a concern for people who lack her own professional acumen and whose bleak stories do not make the headlines. “Before Madeleine went missing,” she admits, “I was horrifyingly ignorant about this issue myself. It really is much bigger than people realise.”
Despite having had huge problems with her Achilles’ tendons during training, and spurred on by her children and the messages of sponsors, Kate aims to raise £20,000 for the charity by running the London Marathon on Sunday. “I am a finisher. I’ll get round if I have to crawl.”
Jo Youle, CEO of Missing People, can testify to that. “Kate’s perseverance is truly inspirational,” she says. “For families like hers, facing the toughest time of their lives when a child goes missing, Kate’s marathon gives hope.”
There are other reasons to be thankful. Once, Kate McCann was afraid that the intensity of grief would threaten their marriage, because she could not bear to take pleasure or comfort in the physical side of their relationship. “I’m pleased, and relieved, to say our relationship is really good,” she says. “Given that we’ve made it through so many awful things over the past six years – and not just made it through but are united, strong and very happy together – then we can make it through anything. We’ll survive.”
Nor are the many reported sightings of Madeleine as upsetting as they used to be. “I am able to rein in my emotions quite easily. [The reports] need to have real credibility. It is encouraging, though, six years on, that people are still looking and haven’t forgotten about Madeleine – that in itself gives us hope.
“There are moments when you despair, but they are infrequent now. As someone said: It’s not that your burden gets any lighter. It’s just that your legs get stronger. That really sums it up.”
justgiving.com/KateMcCann-Marathon; missingpeople.org.uk
 



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Re: Interview with Father Haynes Hubbard.

Post  kitti on Tue 16 Apr - 10:26

That article is from the guardian....


Nice to know she and Gerry are enjoying their sex life together .


Nice to know she has made the twins scared that they might get 'taken' like their sister

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Tue 16 Apr - 11:03

This sickfest is actually from The Telegraph and has been posted as a new topic.

I was trying to find it in The Guardian and got confused because there is a writer there called Kate McCann!

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Post  tigger on Tue 16 Apr - 11:10

“I think I could probably forgive Madeleine’s abductor whatever the circumstances. I don’t know whether it’s simply because I’m stronger or because there’s no benefit in not forgiving someone. I can’t change anything and I don’t want to be eaten up by hatred and bitterness. And maybe there is an element of pity – what kind of person could do something like this? Of course, forgiveness will always be easier if there is remorse.”
unquote

Whatever the circumstances? Including page 129?? This woman is from another planet!

In that case, how about a bit of forgiveness for Tony Bennett who's never harmed your child at all.

..and this one: Despite having had huge problems with her Achilles’ tendons during training, and spurred on by her children and the messages of sponsors, Kate aims to raise £20,000 for the charity by running the London Marathon on Sunday. “I am a finisher. I’ll get round if I have to crawl.” unquote

No problem, Kate, talk to your husband who is known to cure this in minutes:

From Blacksmith:
McCann Tendon Injury [medical] A disabling  injury to the Achilles tendon, often caused by sports activity such as badminton or, particularly, tennis. The MTI is unique in fully healing within fifteen minutes. unquote

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Post  tigger on Tue 16 Apr - 11:11

Not Born Yesterday wrote:This sickfest is actually from The Telegraph and has been posted as a new topic.

I was trying to find it in The Guardian and got confused because there is a writer there called Kate McCann!


very good! We all now she isn't a writer!

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Tue 16 Apr - 11:14

http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/kate-mccann

Here's the other Kate.

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