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Post  Keela on Fri 8 Jun - 14:39

I have mixed feelings about him. He protested very loudly that he did not know the Mccanns, was not in the vicinity of the apartment, was in the UK etc etc. yet he knows the area, has knowledge of property which may be empty through his estate agency routes. Was present as a wedding attended by Kate ( albeit years ago) but I think they know each other. Can he be involved and be the person who facilitated things?

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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 8 Jun - 14:50

I'm pretty sure he's not involved.

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Post  Guest on Fri 8 Jun - 14:52

I don't think he's involved either - not wittingly, anyway.

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Post  wjk on Fri 8 Jun - 14:54

No, I don't think he was either.

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Post  margaret on Fri 8 Jun - 15:31

A 'no' from me too. He may have spoken to the holiday group during the week but l don't believe he had anything to do with what happened to Madeleine.

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Post  chrissie on Fri 8 Jun - 15:32

I don't think he was involved.

Also about him and Kate attending the same wedding, this was researched and it was a myth.

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Post  kitti on Fri 8 Jun - 15:36

One thing bugging me only.......one off the three arquidos could off asked for the case to be reopened, that Included Murat .

Now if that were me and I had been accussed off being involved with an abduction I would off asked for it to be reopened to prove my innocence but instead he kept quite and sued instead.

So in a way HE and the mccanns have doubts about them and still have ....the mccanns have more doubts about them .

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Post  fred on Fri 8 Jun - 15:42

I think he is. Gerry wouldn't answer the question, when he was asked if he knew Robert, he just replied "I'm not going to comment on that" If they didn't know each other, Gerry would have simply said "No" I think he supplied the place where Madeleine was stored until he handed her back, then the disposal was made in the hired Scenic.

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Post  dazedandconfused on Fri 8 Jun - 15:49

I think he is too. I believe he altered his statement several times, he came back in a hurry from the UK - why? No, sorry if I'm wrong, but I think he's involved somewhere along the line.

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Post  tanszi on Fri 8 Jun - 16:05

No no and no. I think when he said about helping he was referring to be a translator. Hes forever linked with G McC because he said he wasnt going to comment on that, bascially because he s a XXXX. why would ask to have the case reopened, his daughter isnt missing. it must all come from the McCs or anyone they can blindside into asking for them.jimo.

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Post  marxman on Fri 8 Jun - 16:14

What about the Chaplin's incident? It was
said by some that they all attended the
quiz/happy hour at Chaplins on Tues night
and Kate returned to Murat's house after
in a rage because Gerry and her were
arguing.
This was reported/discussed a long time
ago. It may be myth, but if it was true,
it may explain Gerry's refusal to confirm
or deny their aquaintence.

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Post  Krisy22 on Fri 8 Jun - 16:20

Its hard to form an opinion either way when we are not sure of the facts. I have got to the stage when only facts interest me now.

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Post  Badboy on Fri 8 Jun - 16:38

IT WAS SAID ON OTHER FORUM THAT IT WAS FOUND OUT IN AUTUMN 2007 THAT GERRY DID KNOW MURAT AND POLICE ARE AWARE OF THAT.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Fri 8 Jun - 16:49

If anyone is interested, there is a long article about Robert Murat on the Madeleine Foundation website under the Articles heading. I do feel that there are unanswered questions about him.

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Re: What are your thoughts - Is Murat involved or not?

Post  tigger on Fri 8 Jun - 16:53

dazedandconfused wrote:I think he is too. I believe he altered his statement several times, he came back in a hurry from the UK - why? No, sorry if I'm wrong, but I think he's involved somewhere along the line.

Don't forget his two meetings with Brian Kennedy in October or November 07 - I think before the Rothley meeting of the T9. Besides, Gerry had been to Portugal a few times for golfing weekends according to Kate. Likely to be PdL - imo. Brian Kennedy I believe goes on holiday there - Smethurst has an apartment there?
Kennedy also has a villa in Majorca and the Majorca holiday of the McCanns and friends wasn't a Mark Warner one but a rented villa.

Not that I know whether that villa they rented might belong to BK - all I'm saying is that there are links and one does wonder why BK who apparently didn't know them from Adam was such an enthusiastic supporter.

I don't believe the 'babes in the woods' story at all. Gerry and Kate keep saying they were 'naive' - I'd call them many things but naive - no!

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Re: What are your thoughts - Is Murat involved or not?

Post  Claudia79 on Fri 8 Jun - 17:14

Nope.

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Post  Carolina on Fri 8 Jun - 17:44

I don't think that he is involved.

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Re: What are your thoughts - Is Murat involved or not?

Post  almostgothic on Fri 8 Jun - 18:02

My gut reaction is that he was not involved.

On a non-gut level I also think he wasn't involved because of:

1) The Portimao Confrontation (or as I like to call it, The Attack of the Three Smug Gits) where three dirty index fingers were just itching to point at him.

2) The now thankfully karma-whupped school snitch Lori Campbell (be careful who you marry), who couldn't wait to make a name for her wittle self (Jack Hughes?) by j'accuse-ing him.
And one cannot forget that she worked alongside Mitchell at Soham.

If this sordid shower insists that 'He dunnit', then I say 'He didn't'.
And if they as much as hint at any involvement on his part, I'll believe the opposite.





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Re: What are your thoughts - Is Murat involved or not?

Post  kathybelle on Fri 8 Jun - 18:26

At the end of the day the PJ were quite satisfied that Robert Murat was not involved with Madeleine's disappearance, so whether or not he knew Gerry McCann, is immaterial. The PJ were quite rightly concentrating on the McCanns, after all they were the main perpetrators in Madeleine's disappearance.

If Scotland Yard are doing their job properly they will now know, that the McCanns, played more of a part in Madeleine's disappearance than neglect.

By now Scotland Yard should have interviewed the person/s within the British Government,who intervened with this case and they should have asked the PJ for the name of the person within the Portuguese Government, who intervened when the PJ wanted to bring charges against the McCanns. Scotland Yard should have also asked which member of the Portuguese Government allowed the McCanns to go home, when they were arguidos. If the report I read was true, the McCanns were even given a police escort to the Algarve airport and allowed to catch the first available flight home, after they were made arguidos.

Goncalo Amaral said that the McCanns demanded the archiving of the process, if what he said is true and I have no reason to believe it wasn't true, Scotland Yard should be asking why the McCanns were allowed to demand that the case was archived and they should be asking why the McCanns demands were adhered to.

Scotland Yard and the PJ have also had enough time to haul the McCanns back to Portugal, because this review has been going on for over 12 months and the facts in the files, that are available for the publice to read, shows that the McCanns are more involved with Madeleine's disappearance, than neglect. I can only assume that there is much much more evidence, in the files that the McCanns were denied access to.

I don't believe the PJ were looking for something other than neglect, to bring charges against the McCanns, because they had enough on the McCanns to put them inside for a very long time. Madeleine, according to the McCanns, disappeared when they left her and her siblings unattended while they were out. What the McCanns admitted to, warranted a long jail sentence.

I believe the charges the PJ wanted to bring against the McCanns but were denied because of interference by a higher authority, were the ones the McCanns admitted to.

We know that Goncalo Amaral and his successor, both believed that Madeleine came to harm in the McCanns apartment and we know that the evidence they found was not accepted. So I feel sure that if the PJ had been allowed to do their job, they would have prosecuted the McCanns, on what the McCanns told them.

The more I think about this case, the more I'm appalled that the McCanns have been allowed to call the shots in this case. I don't know about anyone else, but I get a sickly feeling, each time I listen to the McCanns speak on the You Tube videos and watch Gerry smirk. He knows that they have got away with whatever part they played in Madeleine's disappearance. Hopefully things will change in the near future.

Madeleine's life meant nothing to the McCanns and it appears that her life means nothing to the ones who are protecting the McCanns.

If Scotland Yard and are still conducting the review, when the McCanns begin their lawsuit against Goncalo Amaral, then we have to hope that he says more about the case, when he is in the witness box. Unless he is ordered to remain silent, which wouldn't surprise me in the least.

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Post  cass on Fri 8 Jun - 19:15

of hurting madeleine no but involved i think yes

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Post  dazedandconfused on Fri 8 Jun - 19:24

Not Born Yesterday wrote:If anyone is interested, there is a long article about Robert Murat on the Madeleine Foundation website under the Articles heading. I do feel that there are unanswered questions about him.

Yes, I read that and that was what caused me to doubt

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Re: What are your thoughts - Is Murat involved or not?

Post  kathybelle on Fri 8 Jun - 20:06

I think that if the McCanns were questioned and told they would be charged with the offences they had admitted to, they would squeal like pigs. They would name everyone who was involved in the events surrounding Madeleine's disappearance, including Robert Murat, if he was involved.

If this happened, I wonder how the PJ would react, because the PJ cleared Robert Murat of any involvement with Madeleine's disappearance. Although his arguido status was not removed, until the McCanns arguido status was removed.

Maybe the reason why the McCanns are still walking free and calling all the shots, is because too many people are afraid of what they will say, should they be hauled in for questioning and told they face prosecution.


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Murat ?

Post  Lioned on Fri 8 Jun - 20:28

The mccanns must have had a 'friend' locally to conceal the body there is no other safe option.That may have been Murat but there would then have to be a very good reason for him to risk his liberty.

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Re: What are your thoughts - Is Murat involved or not?

Post  Lillyofthevalley on Fri 8 Jun - 20:31

Aw yes!!!.....I watched the recent McCann programe were Murat was speaking he seemed quite happy with himself, this was UK centre stage for Murat to take, but he didn't WHY?....

Remember the question to Gerry in 2007..."do you know Robert Murat"...Im not going to answer that said Gerry????????



As Cass says "of hurting madeleine no, but involved i think yes" I agree with that!!

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Post  Lillyofthevalley on Fri 8 Jun - 20:50

tanszi wrote:No no and no. I think when he said about helping he was referring to be a translator. Hes forever linked with G McC because he said he wasnt going to comment on that, bascially because he s a XXXX. why would ask to have the case reopened, his daughter isnt missing. it must all come from the McCs or anyone they can blindside into asking for them.jimo.


So why didn't Murat come out and try and answer/quash what Gerry had said?????
Also this wasn't anything todo with Murat having a daughter, it was about him been arrested and made an aquido regarding the disapearance of another child the most well known child in the world.....anyone in there right mind who was innocent!! would fight there corner, I kno my husband would.

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