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Post  wjk on Fri 13 Jul - 10:11

Thanks maebee
I agree with you, he's looking more like an attention seeker by the day. Why would he ask the McCanns to hold a press conference fgs?

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Post  Angelique on Fri 13 Jul - 16:10

Not sure if any of this is relevant but I have read these two comments - the one from the PoliceOracle is from May:

This from 'SteelMagnolia' via a link:

Posted 14 May 2011 - 08:17 PM

Policeoracle
http://www.policeoracle.com/forum/index.php?/topic/15316-mccanns-the-met/

If somebody had taken her and buried her somewhere, it is so long ago now that there won't be any DNA evidence, or any evidence at all for that matter, that anybody could have left behind...............so it would be easy to just ring up the police and say "you'll find her here......".

But nobody has...........and I wonder why that is...........

And this from Amazon discussion:


Posted on 12 Jul 2012 14:57:13 BDT

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/forum/cd/discussion.html/ref=cm_cd_pg_pg103?ie=UTF8&cdForum=FxQ9BDPD12JT49&cdPage=103&cdThread=TxKCX1VVO0AAA6

"Halcyon says:

Hi everyone

I think that this link may come as a surprise to many - a short Radio 5 Live interview from yesterday with Kate McCann.

It's all fairly humdrum until the very end, when Kate drops this bombshell..."What we need now is for the case to reopen...I hope that at some point soon the Portuguese authorities will agree to that...If you don't look for something you don't find it."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00vym9w

I wonder if it is now time to find a body.




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Post  kitti on Fri 13 Jul - 16:38

DNA can be found in bones or if there is any hair left from that too.



But.....she had her blanket, don't forget that.

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Post  Angelique on Fri 13 Jul - 16:41

kitti wrote:DNA can be found in bones or if there is any hair left from that too.



But.....she had her blanket, don't forget that.

kitti

True - I am sort of depending on the fact that Kate couldn't let her go without it. But who knows maybe she had no option.

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Post  margaret on Fri 13 Jul - 16:51

Angelique wrote:

It's all fairly humdrum until the very end, when Kate drops this bombshell..."What we need now is for the case to reopen...I hope that at some point soon the Portuguese authorities will agree to that...If you don't look for something you don't find it."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p00vym9w

I wonder if it is now time to find a body.




Well that is good because they never asked for the reopening of the case when they could have done so. So IMO they know it will be reopened and best to get the spin in first. It is true that if you don't look you won't find something so l wonder why Kate never searched herself the night of the 3rd?

If only the general public knew the McCanns could have requested the reopening of the investigation but have NEVER done so.

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Post  Guest on Fri 13 Jul - 17:01

It wasn't in their interests originally - but now it may be they are faced with Hobson's Choice.

Even if the conspiracy adherents are in some respects proved right, it seems very unlikely indeed that the apparently ever growing number of people involved will not have at least one refusenik amongst them - most importantly, most plods are honest and decent and it is the Review(s) that is/are key here.


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Hmmmm... TEIN...

Post  comperedna on Fri 13 Jul - 17:07

solicitor, barrister, clerk to the court, crime prosecution service person, prison officer... and all stations west... One of those you are/were maybe. :-)

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Hmmmm... TEIN...

Post  comperedna on Fri 13 Jul - 17:08

solicitor, barrister, clerk to the court, crime prosecution service person, prison officer... and all stations west... One of those you are/were maybe. :-)

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Post  kitti on Fri 13 Jul - 17:19

How can SY go from saying that Madeleine is alive then go back on there word when they finished their review...'oh sorry, she's not alive she's dead'....

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Post  Guest on Fri 13 Jul - 17:19

@comperedna

It doesn't really matter what I, or any other Member, does/did in real life - what matters is the desire to keep the Madeleine Case alive in the public conscience and to persist in making noise until such time as the perpetrators are brought to Justice (And they will be)

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Post  cherry1 on Fri 13 Jul - 20:25

TEIN -most plods are honest and decent


Very true, most are hardworking and do a very professional job, but sadly it can
be the minority of corrupt officers who can wield a lot of power. some of the same
corrupt officers can be used again and again on cases where there is more to the case
than meets the eye, rather like dodgy pathologists are used again and again on various
cases where there may be something to hide.

it remains to be seen whether on this case the Police are going to do their jobs honestly
or not! Honest coppers despise corrupt ones!

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Stephen Birch Today

Post  Annabel on Fri 13 Jul - 21:31

From JillHavern:

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t5276p30-stephen-birch


MADELEINE MC CANN - FIRST
Stephen Birch Today at 6:57 pm

Good evening All

Let me first inform the readers regarding the latest developments pertaining to the case. Firstly the Portimoa Police are handling the investigation. Today I received a letter from the Portimoa Police opening a line of communication. The letter was non commital and only said to inform me that they would contact me if need be. That's totally unacceptable to me. So I wrote back immediately telling them I wanted acceptable responses to my letters, failing which I would go to the Portuguese Press and apologize on behalf of the Portimoa Police, that they had let the entire Portuguese Nation down, and had discreted the Portuguese people worldwide. I gave them 7 days to respond. We wait and see. A frustrating time for me.

Tomorrow the Portuguese papers carry a front page story about me. I expect an enormous response. I,ll discuss the contents tomorrow after it has broken and why I chose to go that route. Perhaps some Portuguese speaking people will pick up on the story.

Question and answer time:

How did I get the machine to Portugal ? Good question, well I went on a holday visa, so you can imagine me going through customs pushing a ground penetrating radar machine that looks like a lawnmower through customs, and when the official asks me whats the purpose of your visit Mr Birch ??? , I say " Holiday" lol....no seriously I first went to London on the 14th June to pay for the hire of the machine. When I got to London, the agent informed he'd, based on the South African agent standing security for me, already couried the machine, boxed, via DHL to Praia da luz, and he confirmed that it had already arrived there. All I did was pay him in cash (pounds). Painful, the rands worth nothing, 13 rand to 1 pound.

Did I search any other place. 15 months of research had revealed that only two places existed where MADELEINE could be buried. The botanical garden next to the Murat house or the Murat garden. However when I got to Praia da luz, I eliminated the botanical garden for 3 reasons, firstly townhouses look onto it, secondly the steel gate giving access to the property remained locked 24 hours a day, and thirdly the trees in the garden are thin stemmed young trees with very few leaves.


Why this forum....hmmm I heard Jill was hot and single and very rich, and given the fact that Robert Murat might take legal action against me, I thought I needed to keep my options open, hahaha.

My spelling - do I get a gold star.

Lets talk about me going into the garden, yes it's a very contraversial thing to do I agree, but it's brought the investigation back to where it's suppose to be, in Praia da luz and not in India !!! Was there any other way I could of gone about this investigation, the answer to that question I believe is no. The property had been searched and nothing found. It's hard enough to get the Portuguese Police to go back into the property with scans showing something buried beneath the driveway. How hard would it be to get them to go back into the property with no proof !! It's been 2 weeks since Expresso interviewed me at Lisbon airport and the story broke - and the Portuguese Police have done nothing.The site lies unprotected.

Why am I concerned that there is no British media coverage ? This is a British little girl that went missing, the McCanns and the British press run from India to Morrocco to Australia to look at potential sighting of the missing girl. I come along and think I have found her 130 meters from where she went missing, and every British newspaper editor, in the UK is to scared to run the story for fear of being sued by either the Mc Canns or the Murats.Where's freedom of the press.This is a British girl, or am I missing something. And why is the British press so obscessed with her being alive. Surely the possibilty of her being dead and buried under the Murat driveway, must be investigated first, before they run off to India and Tiger infested jungles. Or am I wrong. Help me here people.

Then there's the issue of Jenny Murat and me upsetting her. I'd like the opportunity to sit with Mrs Murat and have a cup of tea with her. I am not the villan here, I understand that she may get upset, but what if I am rightand we find the little girls remains under that driveway. Will you still worry about Mrs Murat being upset. This is about finding a missing little girl, and sometimes unfortunately someone is going to get upset. That is unfortunate. I thought long and hard about this before I embarked on this operation, there was just no other options.

Are the Police taking me seriously. I think yes they are, only because they being put under pressure by the Portuguese media who are rallying the Portuguese people behind me for answers....otherwise they being goverment employees, I don't think they would care. Sad but true. Why haven't they isolated the site, a good question, and a big problem for me. Totally unacceptable. If it were in the US or UK, that site would be under lock-down. The current situation is totally unacceptable.

Lastly I want you to please for one minute think about the enormous risk that I have taken in undertaking this investigation. I am not talking about the R500 000 I spend. It,s money and can be made again. I am talking about my reputation. Have you ever stopped to think about the enormous pressure that is on me.This is a worldwide story. What happens if I am wrong and she is not there - Will I be the laughing stock of the world -

Would you take that risk and step out of your comfort zone from behind that computer, in your safe office or home -would you ???

Have a great evening everyone wherever you are.

Regards Stephen D. Birch

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Post  Guest on Fri 13 Jul - 22:12

What a tit.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Fri 13 Jul - 23:12

Per the JH forum, he is in South Africa by his IP address - though they of course can be disguised - and his e-mail links to his business. So it does seem to be the Stephen Birch who specialises in night-time gardening. It remains to be seen if he is nothing but a wind up merchant.

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Post  LJC on Fri 13 Jul - 23:26

"15 months of research had revealed that only two places existed where MADELEINE could be buried".


So, the PJ, SY, and Pat Brown don't have a clue then? How did he carry out this research?

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Post  widowan on Sat 14 Jul - 1:05

I wonder why he likes the murat property so much as a burial site, if he doesn't think Murat had anything to do with it?

I would think profilers would say that MM is probably within 20 miles of PDL (deceased as usually happens in child abductions by a pedo or by murder by parent who would then fake an abduction,) they also like to keep the child "close to home" and in the case of a holiday site where the parents have no access to a car it's HIGHLY likely that the child would be disposed of, it at all, very close to the apt where she died.

In a murder or accidental death by neglect -or over sedation -where the child died when the parents were out, and therefore would be in big trouble if they came home to a dead child rather than an accident which happened while they were present and not out neglecting all three of their kids, they may have had little choice in their minds, but to get rid of the body and do so quickly. So I guess that property makes sense. They'd have walked past it, evidently.

But the police did check it and did so with dogs, (didn't they?) these are dogs that can smell a dead body even years after it had lain in a spot or been buried then removed. And the dogs found nothing. Which would tend to indicate if MM is under the driveway, someone put her there after that dog search.

Why would you do that? The only reason I can think of is for the "real killers" to throw suspicion onto Murat. Because he was looked at, early on, and he seemed to be a favorite in the papers, to blame this on, because he had a "dodgy" eye -!- and had volunteered to help the investigation (when as we all know, truly innocent people refer to the police as f*cking t*ssers and refuse to help) - no wonder they were suspicious of him!

But for heaven's sake how could you dig up the driveway and bury someone with the police and the press crawling over the place; it makes no sense, either the dogs would have had to miss a cadaver odor, reasonably fresh, if Maddie had been buried there when she died - or the body was kept somewhere else then moved there after the dogs searched, and in all the limelight that seems like it would be difficult for anyone to do, but specially the McCanns though I guess they could have hired someone. they had enough fans and well wishers and excuse makers.

As far as him, the detector, being able to get into the yard though -the dog that lived in the house where that little Florida girl was stolen, Jessie Lundsford, never woke up when the bad guy cut a hole in the screen and got into the house and got her out. Not all dogs are watch dogs. Evidently her little dachsund stayed asleep in its bed the whole time, asleep with its head under the blanket. It'd not be impossible to get into the back yard if the dog was asleep, depending on the dog.

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Post  Guest on Sat 14 Jul - 1:35

Who are the Portimoa Police, when they are at home?

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Post  Guest on Sat 14 Jul - 1:38

Of major concern to me, is the lack of coverage given by the British media. Yesterday I wrote to the Mc Canns requesting that they call a press conference calling for the excavation of the Murat driveway. No repsonse received to date !!!!

I should imagine he's been filed in the box labelled "nutter".

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Post  jd16 on Sat 14 Jul - 1:53

Iris wrote:
Of major concern to me, is the lack of coverage given by the British media. Yesterday I wrote to the Mc Canns requesting that they call a press conference calling for the excavation of the Murat driveway. No repsonse received to date !!!!

I should imagine he's been filed in the box labelled "nutter".

6 days ago Birch said on his radio interview "Iíve made it very clear that I want no contact with the McCanns or anybody thats associated with Madeleine. I want it to be a completely independent investigation and it must be understood that by doing that erm, my focus has been on to find the infantís remains and once we find the infantís remains the investigation will be narrowed completely down and it should have been narrowed in the first place."


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Post  jd16 on Sat 14 Jul - 2:08

The so called 'Stephen Birch' on Jills seems to have a big personality change from interviews to forums....to one of a juvenile with no life and who spends all day on twitter


Why this forum....hmmm I heard Jill was hot and single and very rich, and given the fact that Robert Murat might take legal action against me, I thought I needed to keep my options open, hahaha.

My spelling - do I get a gold star.

I went on a holday visa, so you can imagine me going through customs pushing a ground penetrating radar machine that looks like a lawnmower through customs, and when the official asks me whats the purpose of your visit Mr Birch ??? , I say " Holiday" lol

Help me here people
....yes you certainly do need help

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sat 14 Jul - 8:58

My troll alarm is in full shriek after reading those quotes from Stephen Birch supplied by JD16!

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Post  tigger on Sat 14 Jul - 9:07

Not Born Yesterday wrote:My troll alarm is in full shriek after reading those quotes from Stephen Birch supplied by JD16!

Indeedy!

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sat 14 Jul - 9:29

widowan wrote:
As far as him, the detector, being able to get into the yard though -the dog that lived in the house where that little Florida girl was stolen, Jessie Lundsford, never woke up when the bad guy cut a hole in the screen and got into the house and got her out. Not all dogs are watch dogs. Evidently her little dachsund stayed asleep in its bed the whole time, asleep with its head under the blanket. It'd not be impossible to get into the back yard if the dog was asleep, depending on the dog.

For anyone like me who'd never heard of the case of Jessica Lunsford, here's a link. Warning it is truly awful with the only consolation that the perpetrator is now dead.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jessica_Lunsford

Coincidentally there is another Lunsford (Aaliyah) who disappeared more recently but almost certainly the parents are involved.


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