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Post  Panda on Wed 1 Aug - 16:31



Wasn't there supposed to be photos of Madeleine taken by another Holidaymaker in the Ocean Club, did anything come of that rumour? When you think of it, the McCanns could never admit neglect , saying " I should never have left the
children alone ", or "I blame myself for Madeleine's disappearance" because she would have been charged. To say they
were thinking of going to the Millenium does not mitigate their guilt, had she said, "we should have stayed in the
apartment " that might have been more appropriate.

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Post  Badboy on Wed 1 Aug - 17:04

Panda wrote:

Wasn't there supposed to be photos of Madeleine taken by another Holidaymaker in the Ocean Club, did anything come of that rumour? When you think of it, the McCanns could never admit neglect , saying " I should never have left the
children alone ", or "I blame myself for Madeleine's disappearance" because she would have been charged. To say they
were thinking of going to the Millenium does not mitigate their guilt, had she said, "we should have stayed in the
apartment " that might have been more appropriate.
THAT WAS PHILLIP EDMONDS AS WELL

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Wed 1 Aug - 18:15

There are also some black and white photos taken by David Payne which are said to include most of the Tapas 9 and children but unfortunately they are virtually impossible to decipher when viewed on a computer.

They too would be very interesting to see.

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Post  Panda on Wed 1 Aug - 18:20


I thought it was a Holidaymaker not connected with anyone and he apparently took photographs of the McCanns in the
Restaurant , did he actually send the photos to the PJ?

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Post  Panda on Wed 1 Aug - 18:25

Not Born Yesterday wrote:There are also some black and white photos taken by David Payne which are said to include most of the Tapas 9 and children but unfortunately they are virtually impossible to decipher when viewed on a computer.

They too would be very interesting to see.

Maybe they would have established whether Jane Tanner was in any of them in the Restaurant on 3rd May.! Moura, the
Portugese/ American Detective hired by CBS says Tanner was never in the Restaurant on 3rd May according to the Staff.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Wed 1 Aug - 18:39

With acknowledgement to the Jill Havern forum, this is a selection of the photos.

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t3574-150-black-white-holiday-photos-to-be-identified?highlight=payne+photos

As you will see, most of them are as clear as mud.

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Post  cherry1 on Wed 1 Aug - 18:55

I believe Hodge was the one who covered up child abuse in Islington childrens homes.

It seems Hodge covers for paedophiles.

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Post  almostgothic on Wed 1 Aug - 20:45

IIRC Edmonds suddenly left PdL much earlier than planned?

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Post  Badboy on Wed 1 Aug - 22:04

almostgothic wrote:IIRC Edmonds suddenly left PdL much earlier than planned?
SO IT SEEMS

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Post  meg on Thu 2 Aug - 13:01



Director Summary

Philip Martin Edmonds has 10 company director or secretary appointments.
Short name - Philip Edmonds
Director ID : 904704278
Year of Birth: 1962


Address
10 Bernoldweg
Zug
6300
Switzerland


Company Summary



Company Name

Company Status




STEMCOR RISK MANAGEMENT AG

Active




ALPHASTEEL SALES LIMITED

Active




STEMCOR HOLDINGS LIMITED

Active




STEMCOR UK LIMITED

Active




STEMCOR SPECIAL STEELS LIMITED

Active

(Director Resigned 06/01/2009)



L.W. LAMBOURN & CO. LIMITED

Active

(Director Resigned 18/09/2003)



STEMCOR EUROPE LIMITED

Active

(Director Resigned 12/02/2007)



BWE MANAGEMENT LIMITED

Active

(Director Resigned 31/03/2001)



STEMCOR FINANCIAL SERVICES LIMITED

Active

(Director Resigned 16/12/2008)



STEMCOR TRADING SERVICES LIMITED

Active

(Director Resigned 16/12/2008)




STEMCOR RISK MANAGEMENT AG





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Post  kitti on Thu 2 Aug - 15:29

There was a couple with their kids who said that when taking pictures off their own children madeleine was in some off the pics....

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Post  meg on Fri 3 Aug - 20:27

If we can get the capon this, it will help the GAG in putting out the fire inside the mine.”
71)December 9, 2010: On December 9, 2010, Bathurst Resources Ltd Managing Director Hamish Bohannan announced the company’s BULLER COAL OFFTAKE MEMORANDUM OF UNDERSTANDING with Stemcor Australia Pty Ltd (“Stemcor” an acronym for STEel Marketing CORporation) a subsidiary of Stemcor Holdings Ltd for the sale of coal from the Buller Project in New Zealand. Mr. Bohannan explains in Bathurst’s announcement document; “About Stemcor: …Stemcor was formed in London in 1951 and is a privately owned company. The majority of shares are held by the Oppenheimer family, represented on the Board by Ralph Oppenheimer (Executive Chairman) and Philip Edmonds (Deputy Chairman), with the balance of the shares held by employees.” [Bathurst website PDF File:
December 9, 2010, Buller Coal Offtake Memorandum of Understanding]. On December 13, 2010, in a short article about this off-take agreement between the two companies,
www.azomining.com/Details.asp?newsID=2047 the authors write, “The Australian company has now signed up the steel trader Stemcor Australia as a customer. Stemcor will also be providing finance for the coal project. It will provide $50 million by way of a finance facility.” So why did Mr Hamish Bohannan choose Stemcor for this exclusive agency agreement? Well, Mr Bohannan started off as a miner working for Goldfields in South Africa (based in London), one of the family firms owned by Harry Oppenheimer and the Oppenheimer family. In 1987 Goldfields held a 49% stake in Peabody Coal, (now the U.S.’s largest coal producer and one of the two biggest coal companies currently accused of providing donations and bribes to the majority of U.S politicians).
(see: www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Coal_money_in_politics
Atthe same time Goldfields also held a 26.2% stake in Newmont Mining Corp, in which John Dow was previously Chairman and Managing Director in Australia – before he became Chairman of Pike River Coal Ltd in New Zealand. Mr. Hamish Bohannan has also previously held an executive position with WMC (formerly called Western Mining Corporation) one of Australia’s multinational mining giants taken over by BHP Billiton. In 1930, through New Consolidated Goldfields Ltd South Africa, Oppenheimer took a 60% shareholding in Gold Mines of Australia which
later became Western Mining Corporation which later came to be called WMC. Interestingly, the list of the top 20 shareholders in Western Mining Corporation (as at 31 January 2000) http://www.sea-us.org.au/roxby/fla.html were the same biggest shareholders in New Zealand Oil & Gas Ltd, the controlling shareholder of Pike River Coal Ltd.
Both Managing Director and CEO of Bathurst Resources Hamish Bohannan and Chairman of Trans-Tasman Resources Ltd (TTR) Bill W. Bisset (TTR is the company that plans to build the giant steel mill, titanium and vanadium operation in the North Island of New Zealand exploiting the rich iron sands on the west coast and running the mill with coking coal from the South Island West Coast region provided by Bathurst Resources) previously were executives of ILUKA. This company is a major player in the global mineral sands industry. It is the largest producer of zircon in the
world, with an approximate market share of one third, and is the second largest producer of titanium dioxide minerals. Outside of the core mineral sands business, Iluka has a royalty over iron ore sales revenues from specific tenements of BHP Billiton’s Mining Area C (MAC) province in the north west of Western Australia, and in the future is a likely candidate to be chosen for exploiting New Zealand’s vast iron sand and titanium resources. Both the current Chairman of Iluka George John Pizzey was formerly a Director of WMC Resources Ltd, and Chairman of Iluka’s Audit and Risk Committee Donald Marshall Morley was formerly the Chief Financial Officer and a Director of WMC Ltd controlled by the London Oppenheimer family. Many of the largest shareholders in Iluka are also the same as the largest shareholders of New Zealand Oil & Gas Ltd, the controlling shareholder of Pike River Coal Ltd. A.
Geoffrey Loudon Chairman of L&M Energy and L&M Coal, (companies that are now cross shareholders in Bathurst Resources Ltd) is also Chairman of Nautilus Minerals whose three largest shareholders include giant mining company Anglo American (11.1%) controlled by the Oppenheimer family. Sir Ernest Oppenheimer founded Anglo American Corporation with JP Morgan in 1917, and today his great- grandson Nicky Oppenheimer is still a director. He is also Chairman of De Beers, the giant diamond mining company founded in 1888 by Cecil Rhodes, Bernard and Ernest Oppenheimer and the Rothschild family, which today employs over 20,000 people and still monopolizes the global diamond and precious metal markets. Today Oppenheimer / De Beers related companies control an estimated 1300 of the biggest companies and over a third of the entire commerce in South Africa. Until 2002, for a number of years Mike Oppenheimer was BHP Billiton Energy Coal president. Anglo American is also heavily funded by Barclays, BNP Parabas and Royal Bank of Scotland in which Oppenheimer and Rothschild have controlling interests. BNP
Parabas is also a major shareholder in Massey Energy Company that owns Performance Coal Company Ltd whose Chairman and CEO Don L. Blankenship was accused for murdering the 29 miners on April 5, 2010, at the Upper Big Branch Mine in West Virginia U.S.A. [Of note, Blankenship’s remuneration in 2005 was $US28,834,719, 2006 – $US5,328,422, 2007 – $US9,361,000, 2008 – $US11,020,991, and 2009 – $US17,835,837. During this five year period he was paid a total remuneration package of exactly $US72,380,969].
See:www.insiders.morningstar.com/trading/executive-compensation.action? t=MEE®io

Similarly, Peter Whittall, the CEO of Pike River Coal Ltd who with the directors of the company was allegedly responsible for killing the 29 miners at Pike River Mine on November 19, 2010, previously worked for BHP Billiton largely controlled by the same Oppenheimer family.
See: www.iluka.com/?page=ourbusiness click on: PDF 25 November, 2010, Form 604 – Notice of Change of Interests of Substantial Holder for list of shareholders. On June 25, 2005, Western Mining Corporation Ltd (WMC) was taken over by BHP Billiton, now controlled from London by both the Oppenheimer and Rothschild families. Today BHP Billiton is the world’s largest mining company by revenues. Again, the major shareholders in BHP Billiton are the same as the controlling shareholders of New Zealand Oil & Gas Ltd. see:


http://waterpressure.wordpress.com/page/27/ link to the full article which is quite interesting if you have time to read it

What I can't understand although it's not completely out of the realms of possibility is why Philip Edmonds would go on a Mark Warner holiday, he very obviously doesn't need a holiday on a budget

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Re: Clarence Mitchell Statement at LP Station 2008

Post  Panda on Fri 3 Aug - 22:00


Hi meg, it's a bit late to absorb your post but I'm not sure what part Philip Edmonds is playing in all this. There was a
rumour at the beginning of the McCann saga that there was a 10th Tapas who beat a hasty retreat in his private plane when it was discovered that Madeleine was missing , could this have been him? If so what was he doing with the Tapas
9 in PDL?

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Post  Bobsy on Fri 3 Aug - 22:15

Panda wrote:
Hi meg, it's a bit late to absorb your post but I'm not sure what part Philip Edmonds is playing in all this. There was a
rumour at the beginning of the McCann saga that there was a 10th Tapas who beat a hasty retreat in his private plane when it was discovered that Madeleine was missing , could this have been him? If so what was he doing with the Tapas
9 in PDL?
Hi Panda, it is late but just felt that I must comment on the post of mag, which really needs some serious reading and like you,it's late, so will return to it when I am brighter . The comment about why would Philip Edmonds be on a budget holiday, indeed why? And though PdL is a pretty place it is hardly paradise, so what was/is the attraction. Golf, nah, still not upmarket enough. Villas, yes some very nice ones but not OTT for a really monied person. Was there a must be there event going on that week in May 2007 in PdL. Was there someone there he just had to see, was something very important taking place that he had a need to be part of?
More questions and no answers but I cannot think of a valid reason why he was in the sleepy almost out of season PdL in May 2007.

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Post  Panda on Fri 3 Aug - 22:32

Bobsy wrote:
Panda wrote:
Hi meg, it's a bit late to absorb your post but I'm not sure what part Philip Edmonds is playing in all this. There was a
rumour at the beginning of the McCann saga that there was a 10th Tapas who beat a hasty retreat in his private plane when it was discovered that Madeleine was missing , could this have been him? If so what was he doing with the Tapas
9 in PDL?
Hi Panda, it is late but just felt that I must comment on the post of mag, which really needs some serious reading and like you,it's late, so will return to it when I am brighter . The comment about why would Philip Edmonds be on a budget holiday, indeed why? And though PdL is a pretty place it is hardly paradise, so what was/is the attraction. Golf, nah, still not upmarket enough. Villas, yes some very nice ones but not OTT for a really monied person. Was there a must be there event going on that week in May 2007 in PdL. Was there someone there he just had to see, was something very important taking place that he had a need to be part of?
More questions and no answers but I cannot think of a valid reason why he was in the sleepy almost out of season PdL in May 2007.

Hi bobsy, to be honest I don't know how Philip Edmonds is considered a player in this saga, who has suggested he is?
Is it proven that he was in PDL at the same time as the McCanns or even knows them? He certainly isn't in their League
and as you say would be more likely to be holidaying in the Seychelles than PDL.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Fri 3 Aug - 22:37

According to information on the Jill Havern site he definitely was in PDL from 28th April 2007 with his three children and left unexpectedly on 4th May. I have seen copies of the booking records.

Whether he is in any way involved in what happened, who knows.

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Post  Panda on Fri 3 Aug - 23:07

Not Born Yesterday wrote:According to information on the Jill Havern site he definitely was in PDL from 28th April 2007 with his three children and left unexpectedly on 4th May. I have seen copies of the booking records.

Whether he is in any way involved in what happened, who knows.

I would assume he has a Villa there and it could simply be a coincidence , if he is with his 3 children he would hardly
be flying in his own Plane unless it is an Executive type with a few seats., was there a booking for his Wife as well?

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Fri 3 Aug - 23:13

He was staying at the Ocean Club not in a private villa. I understand that he is divorced and the children live with their mother in Switzerland.

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Post  Panda on Sun 5 Aug - 7:31

Not Born Yesterday wrote:He was staying at the Ocean Club not in a private villa. I understand that he is divorced and the children live with their mother in Switzerland.

Thanks NBY , PDL a bit downmarket for such a rich man wouldn't you say? If they were placed in the creche all day , you
have to wonder why he took them. If not, April/May is not very warm and there seemed little to entertain older children.

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