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Post  Panda on Sun 29 Jul - 16:41



I couldn't find the Fist anniversary C4 Programme , but this article from mccannfiles proves Kate lied when she said they never called her Maddie, WHY!!
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Madeleine or Maddie?



"Madeleine called herself 'Madeleine', and that was very much the name in the family as well, so that makes us wonder if this was indeed Madeleine," said Clarence Mitchell to the BBC in August 2008, in relation to another false 'sighting'.




The 'Look for Maddie' presentation in Madrid



In spite of Mr Mitchell's words, all the nannies who came into contact with Madeleine at the Ocean Club claim that Madeleine was presented to them under the diminutive "Maddie".

Indeed, the rest of the family, including Gerry and the twins, all refer to Madeleine as 'Maddie'.

Which begs the question: Why is Kate now saying that they "never called her anything like that" and that 'Maddie' was a name "invented" by the media?

The McCanns never called Madeleine 'Maddie'?

Kate McCann

"My consolation is that on the cover he calls her Maddie, the name that the media have invented. We never called her anything like that."

Expresso interview, Kate talks about 'The Truth of the Lie' by Gonçalo Amaral, published 06 September 2008

Kate McCann

"She has a lot of personality and her name actually means 'tower of strength'. But she hated it when we called her Maddie - she'd say, 'My name is Madeleine', with an indignant look on her face."

Women's Own interview, published 13 August 2007

Kate McCann

"Maybe because they're growing. They express themselves better. When they see Madeleine's cat, they say "Maddie". When they see her bag, as well."

Paris Match interview, talking about the twins, 04 September 2007

Gerry McCann

'April 2005- Back in Leicester and looking for a job. Now father of three with Sean and Amelie joing Maddie.'

Gerry's Friends Reunited entry, April 2005 - entry updated May 2007 but 'Maddie' remained



Gerry McCann

"Today we think that if Maddie had been taken or killed quickly, there would have been evidence [of this]."

Paris Match interview, 04 September 2007

Madeleine's Fund launched

By phone:
Text "MADDIE" to 60999 and £1 will be taken from your phone for the Madeleine Fund. (Standard network charges apply)

FindMadeleine.com, 16 May 2007

Trish Cameron (Gerry's sister)

"When Kate checked, she came out screaming. Maddy had gone. The door was open and the window in the bedroom and shutters were jemmied open."

Daily Mirror, 05 May 2007 Link


Eileen McCann (Gerry's mother)

"Anyone who knows Gerry and Kate knows that they cherished Maddie."

"Somebody came into Maddie's room, carried her out in her pyjamas..."

The Sun, 28 April 2008 Link



John McCann (Gerry's brother)

"They're much more positive about things that can be done to get Maddy back."

Liverpool Daily Post, 10 May 2007 Link



John McCann (Gerry's brother)

"We are hoping this is going to be resolved very soon. We have got one objective - we want to get our darling wee Maddy back."

Daily Mirror, 10 May 2007 Link



John McCann (Gerry's brother)

"Kate dressed Amelie in her sister's pyjamas and the baby said: 'Maddy's jammies. Where is Maddy?'"

Sydney Morning Herald, 15 May 2007 Link



Susan Healy (Kate's mother)

"This is a set-up. Maddie is Kate and Gerry's world. They would never do anything to harm her."

Daily Mail, 08 September 2007 Link



Susan Healy (Kate's mother)

"We want her back, we're not going to accept that Maddie's gone from our life altogether."

Antena3 interview, 22 October 2007 Link



Jon Corner

"Kate phoned me in the early hours totally devastated.

"She just told me that Maddy had been abducted, that the shutters of the apartment had been forced and someone had taken her.

"Maddy was asleep in the room with Sean and Amelie and whoever has taken her has gone straight past the sleeping twins, left them completely alone and snatched Maddy."

Liverpool Daily Post, 06 May 2007 Link



Mark McQueen (Sean's godfather)

"We know Maddie very well. She is an adorable, glorious and funny three-year-old."

Liverpool Confidential, 09 May 2007 Link



Charlotte Pennington (Ocean Club nanny)

'The informant adds that Madeleine was usually called "Maddie" given that it was under that name that Madeleine introduced herself to the informant, the shortened form of her first name.'

Excerpt summary of Charlotte Pennington's police interview on 07 May 2007



Charlotte Pennington (Ocean Club nanny)

"She didn't get the name, but she said it sounded something like 'Abbey, Gabby or Maddie'. We automatically went into lost-child procedure. In these situations, the first thing we do is investigate the scene.

"We knew that one of the other nanny's charges was called Maddie."

Daily Mail, 25 September 2007 Link



Charlotte Pennington (Ocean Club nanny)

'... a woman she did not know, but who must have been a tourist, went to their building asking if they were aware of the disappearance of a child called "Maggie" or "Maddie".'


Excerpt summary of Charlotte Pennington's police interview on 07 May 2007



Ocean Club nannies

'all the child-care workers, having contact with Madeleine, state that Madeleine introduced herself to them by her shortened name "Maddie".'


Excerpt summary of police interviews carried out from 05 May 2007 to 07 May 2007



Russell O'Brien (Tapas 7)

'Kate returned through the reception area standing at the end of the path near the stones, and yelled over towards our table in the Tapas bar I cannot recall exactly what she yelled but it was along the lines of Maddy is missing. We all got up immediately except Dianne who remained at the table.'

Excerpt from rogatory interview, 10 April 2010



Parents' anguish as toddler is 'abducted'...

'But when Ms McCann, a GP, checked at 9.45pm, Madeleine,­ known to her family as "Maddy",­ had gone.'

The Independent, 05 May 2007 Link



'Maddy was abducted... '

'She (Jill Renwick) said Madeleine - known as Maddy - was "gorgeous, active and chatty and intelligent, not shy".

Daily Mail, 05 May 2007 Link



Maddy, 3 goes missing

'A friend said: "Kate rang us totally hysterical, saying Maddy was abducted. They're devastated."'

Daily Mirror, 05 May 2007



Pat Perkins (close family friend)

'Whether you are in the UK, Portugal, Europe or beyond, please forward to all your family, friends,colleagues and business associates. Someone out there will have some information that will lead to Maddy's return.

The internet can be a powerful tool in finding Maddy, who is so loved and missed by us all.

Let's use it positively.

Please pray for Madeleine and all the family at this devastating time.

We need your help. We know you won't let Maddy down.'

extract from chain e-mail sent 07 May 2007



Text "MADDIE" to 'Help find Madenleine'


Madeleine's Fund launched FindMadeleine.com (see screenshot below)

The Madeleine Fund - 'Leaving No Stone Unturned' Appeal

Wednesday, 16 May 2007

Funds will be used to help find Madeleine McCann, support her family and bring her abductors to justice. Any surplus funds will be used to help families and missing children in United Kingdom, Portugal and elsewhere in similar circumstances.

By phone:
Text "MADDIE" to 60999 and £1 will be taken from your phone for the Madeleine Fund. (Standard network charges apply)

(...)



If you enlarge the screenshots below, you will see that the original versions of the official site asked people to 'Help find Madenleine'. It is surprising that this glaring error was carried thoughtlessly over from the original 'bringmadeleinehome.com' site without correction.



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Re: Madeleine or Maddie

Post  gillyspot on Sun 29 Jul - 17:02

Gerry McCann referred to Madeleine on Friends Reunited as Maddy. - Maddy sounds to much like Daddy I think. Hmm

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Post  matthew on Sun 29 Jul - 17:08

gillyspot wrote:Gerry McCann referred to Madeleine on Friends Reunited as Maddy. - Maddy sounds to much like Daddy I think. Hmm

Hmmm too

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Re: Madeleine or Maddie

Post  Panda on Sun 29 Jul - 17:17

Gerry McCann

'April 2005- Back in Leicester and looking for a job. Now father of three with Sean and Amelie joing Maddie.'

Gerry's Friends Reunited entry, April 2005 - entry updated May 2007 but 'Maddie' remained "

Why would Gerry be looking for a job , he had been awarded a Research Grant by the British Heart Foundation and would be working in the Lab at
Glenfield , maybe even still taking on Private Patients.




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Re: Madeleine or Maddie

Post  pamalam on Sat 4 Aug - 23:49

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/01_Year.htm

Maddie - A year in the darkness [PART 1]

http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/13apr8/Sun-28-04-08.htm



Day 42
Six weeks since Madeleine disappeared. We believe Madeleine is alive and I am glad to say that following yesterday's letter in the Telegraaf (Netherlands) there has been no evidence that Madeliene is in the area indicated although there will be further searches tomorrow.
Kate and I picked up a friend from Faro airport who has been
instrumental in helping with the campaign. He has been fantastic, producing the DVD of Madeleine to ‘Don’t you forget about me’

which has been shown at many sporting events and concerts as well as producing the look for maddie logo and various posters.

We spent most of the day updating each other and discussing future campaign ideas. We are getting closer to appointing a campaign manager who will handle media liaison and coordinating events to keep Madeleine’s disappearance highly visible



http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/DAYS_1_to_50.htm#d42

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Re: Madeleine or Maddie

Post  Panda on Sun 5 Aug - 0:18



Thanks Pamalam.

For starters, Doug Skehan, Gerry's Boss at Glenfields was appointed a Director of NSU when it was incorporated 17 days after Madeleine disappeared. He apparently is experienced in Fund raising so how could Gerry say 6 weeks later it was under discussion, and Clarence was already appointed their mouthpiece, sorry, spokesman.LOL Even after 5 years he
still acts for them.!!!

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Re: Madeleine or Maddie

Post  kathybelle on Sun 5 Aug - 0:56

Panda wrote:

Thanks Pamalam.

For starters, Doug Skehan, Gerry's Boss at Glenfields was appointed a Director of NSU when it was incorporated 17 days after Madeleine disappeared. He apparently is experienced in Fund raising so how could Gerry say 6 weeks later it was under discussion, and Clarence was already appointed their mouthpiece, sorry, spokesman.LOL Even after 5 years he
still acts for them.!!!

Hi Panda,

I've just realised what you meant yesterday, when you mentioned NSU. I thought you were talking about a Pharmaceutical company, it didn't even click that you were talking about the "No Stone Unturned" fund.

I wonder what made Doug Skehan and John McCann resign as directors of the NSU.


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Re: Madeleine or Maddie

Post  Panda on Sun 5 Aug - 7:19

kathybelle wrote:
Panda wrote:

Thanks Pamalam.

For starters, Doug Skehan, Gerry's Boss at Glenfields was appointed a Director of NSU when it was incorporated 17 days after Madeleine disappeared. He apparently is experienced in Fund raising so how could Gerry say 6 weeks later it was under discussion, and Clarence was already appointed their mouthpiece, sorry, spokesman.LOL Even after 5 years he
still acts for them.!!!

Hi Panda,

I've just realised what you meant yesterday, when you mentioned NSU. I thought you were talking about a Pharmaceutical company, it didn't even click that you were talking about the "No Stone Unturned" fund.

I wonder what made Doug Skehan and John McCann resign as directors of the NSU.


Morning Kathybelle,

My typing speed is 10 words an hour so I try to shorten words where ever I can.
Yes, I thought maybe there had been a rift between Directors , the McCanns and Smethurst never envisaged to be
appointed.

When you think about it, NOT ONE of the Directors appointed has had experience in searching for missing children ,
that should have told us something from the beginning.

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Re: Madeleine or Maddie

Post  tigger on Sun 5 Aug - 9:36

The use of a formal name makes it easier for perpetrators of crimes to talk about the person. I't the same as when a mother is cross with a child - say he's called Bobbie, Robert!!!! she shouts and he already knows there is trouble because the affectionate shortened name isn't used. She has distanced herself from the very loved Bobby in order to reprimand him.

We see thus Madeleine instead of Maddie, BabyLisa instead of Lisa and so on. Pat Brown has commented on this very common phenomenon. This is why I'm also convinced the dingo case was suspect, she shouted that the dingo had taken her baby. Not the name, just the baby who wasn't called baby but some biblical name.

So if one used the name Madeleine which neither of them seem to be able to pronounce correctly or indeed spell correctly - Gerry spells it wrongly in his blog at least once and the first website misspells her name and then transfers the mistake to the second website - by the third go they got it right.

Somehow that makes me spitting mad.

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Re: Madeleine or Maddie

Post  kitti on Sun 5 Aug - 9:41

I thought Kate mccanns said that Amalie couldn't converse very well yet she was saying on 15th may....maddies Jarmers, where's maddie...

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sun 5 Aug - 10:13

Clearly Amelie hadn't been told that her sister was never called Maddie!

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Re: Madeleine or Maddie

Post  kitti on Sun 5 Aug - 11:21

Didn't the pj want to try to speak to the twins but Kate McCann said they as they couldn't converse very well and that it would be a waste off time.


Obviously now we know they were possibly sedated to prevent them from seeing or hearing and repeating what happened that night.

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Re: Madeleine or Maddie

Post  tigger on Sun 5 Aug - 12:54

kitti wrote:Didn't the pj want to try to speak to the twins but Kate McCann said they as they couldn't converse very well and that it would be a waste off time.


Obviously now we know they were possibly sedated to prevent them from seeing or hearing and repeating what happened that night.

You're so wrong! (Wish you were right) The twins are achieving total recall as they get older, despite being totally comatose that night. Kate intimated in the Swedish interviews that she was shocked by the things they could remember - perhaps that's for the next book?

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sun 5 Aug - 12:58

Could that just be Kate wishing to portray her children as super-human creatures with abilities way beyond their years? The little we know about Madeleine would be more applicable to an older child or even an adult.

The book may well be full of things the twins have supposedly said and done but I for one will take it all with a vast amount of salt.

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Post  Panda on Sun 5 Aug - 13:53

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Could that just be Kate wishing to portray her children as super-human creatures with abilities way beyond their years? The little we know about Madeleine would be more applicable to an older child or even an adult.

The book may well be full of things the twins have supposedly said and done but I for one will take it all with a vast amount of salt.

Et Moi.....you only had to watch the 1st Year Anniversary on channel 4 to see how the twins were being manipulated for
the Camera. Kate had painted their names on a sheet of paper while sitting at a table with them. When she painted
Madeleine's name and asked "whose that", they didn't know so she had to prompt them so they answered "Madeleine".
How many times did she have to remind them to remember their Sister, they were only 2 when she went missing.

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Re: Madeleine or Maddie

Post  almostgothic on Sun 5 Aug - 14:52

Poor, damaged children.
Deliberately consigned to a wretched and uncertain fate by their parents and their 'friends' on May 3rd 2007.

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