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VIDEO - Was Gerry ANGRY with Kate as her DREAM led to them becoming SUSPECTS?

Post  HiDeHo on Sun 29 Jul - 18:41

Kate's Dream - The catalyst to bring in the CADAVER dogs



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Post  AnnaEsse on Sun 29 Jul - 19:19

Thank you HiDeHo.

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Post  HiDeHo on Mon 30 Jul - 5:29

I changed the title as it looks to me that Gerry probably didn't know about the 'dream' until he heard it in court and once he knew that it led to them becoming suspects he, maybe, blames Kate to this day.

She was not with him after court in the press conference and he made a sudden return to UK leaving Kate to attend the court alone with Fiona,

I have never seen Kate as she appeared the following day. She could barely talk in the Press conference and Fiona made comments on her behalf.


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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 30 Jul - 7:50

HiDeHo wrote:I changed the title as it looks to me that Gerry probably didn't know about the 'dream' until he heard it in court and once he knew that it led to them becoming suspects he, maybe, blames Kate to this day.

She was not with him after court in the press conference and he made a sudden return to UK leaving Kate to attend the court alone with Fiona,

I have never seen Kate as she appeared the following day. She could barely talk in the Press conference and Fiona made comments on her behalf.


I think you may be right since, according to the police officer who received the call, Gerry was out of the country when Kate made it. In my opinion, Gerry is a control freak. He likes to know exactly what is going to be said and I think the dream came as a shock to him.

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Post  HiDeHo on Mon 30 Jul - 9:34

MCMINUTE: Did Gerry know about Kate's DREAM that made the McCanns SUSPECTS?


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Post  Annabel on Mon 30 Jul - 10:10

http://steelmagnolia-steelmagnolia.blogspot.nl/2012/07/mccannexplosive-moment-for-gerry-in.html

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Re: VIDEO - Was Gerry ANGRY with Kate as her DREAM led to them becoming SUSPECTS?

Post  marxman on Mon 30 Jul - 11:00

I find it absurd when Gerry can state
that Kate 'never had a dream' of
Madeleine been buried anywhere. The
man is such a control freak that he is
stating Kate's inner-most thoughts as
factual.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 30 Jul - 13:18

marxman wrote:I find it absurd when Gerry can state
that Kate 'never had a dream' of
Madeleine been buried anywhere. The
man is such a control freak that he is
stating Kate's inner-most thoughts as
factual.

I think it's up to Kate to state whether or not she had a dream about a particular subject. He must have been so angry, I think, and Kate possibly backed down in the face of his wrath. At the time of that Spanish TV interview, when Gerry stalked off, I thought that Kate looked like she was used to appeasing him.

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Post  kitti on Mon 30 Jul - 13:49

Where was Gerry McCann when she rang up and made an appointment for the twins to have their hair tested for drugs and when he got home he rang up and cancelled the appointment?



You can see why he got people over from the UK to babysit his wife.... just in case she decides to make any more phone calls to the pj.



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Post  HiDeHo on Mon 30 Jul - 14:25

Thanks for posting the link to Steel Magnolia Annabel. Interesting.

Does anyone know how to contact Steel Magnilia? Contact details are at the end of each video

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Post  kathybelle on Mon 30 Jul - 16:25


HiDeHo

Thank you for putting the video on here. I remember the incident when Gerry walked, or should I say stomped out of the Lisbon Court, where he and his wife were trying to get Goncalo Amaral's book permanently banned.

Sky News on the Internet, were following the case live and giving a written running commentary on the proceedings inside court. It was either after a former Portuguese police officer took the witness stand and said the British Government had intervened with this case, or it was after their own Portuguese lawyer, said inadvertantly said something when she was on the witness stand, that showed the McCanns in a bad light.

Gerry was fuming when he came out of court, in fact you can see how angry he is as he is talking to the media. Gone is the familiar smirk.

Joana Morais, was also in court and so was one of Tony Bennett's friends, from the Madeleine Foundation.

What was also disgusting about the Judge in this case was, that she allowed the McCanns to enter the court, through her chambers, while Dr Amaral had to enter the court through the same door as everyone else.

The McCanns didn't return to court to hear the Judge's verdict and this is because I believe they already knew that the verdict would go their way.

I remember reading, that the only people present in the Judge's chambers when she came to her decision regarding the verdict, were Clarence Mitchell and Isabel Duarte. I can't swear to it, but I have a feeling it was on the Sky News website, where once again they were following the case live.


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Post  marxman on Mon 30 Jul - 16:37

AnnaEsse wrote:
marxman wrote:I find it absurd when Gerry can state
that Kate 'never had a dream' of
Madeleine been buried anywhere. The
man is such a control freak that he is
stating Kate's inner-most thoughts as
factual.

I think it's up to Kate to state whether or not she had a dream about a particular subject. He must have been so angry, I think, and Kate possibly backed down in the face of his wrath. At the time of that Spanish TV interview, when Gerry stalked off, I thought that Kate looked like she was used to appeasing him.

Yes, and do you think Kate's refusal to
answer the 48 questions, whilst Gerry
complied, was a direct order from Gerry
worried about them being caught out?

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Post  Wintabells on Mon 30 Jul - 17:32

'finding a missing body' eh?

[2.30 first video]

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Post  HiDeHo on Mon 30 Jul - 18:37

Thanks for the info kathybelle.

I, too, recall the live coverage but had forgotton that Joanna also attended.

From what I can make out now, it was a three day trial/hearing. This was the second day when Goncalo's witnesses were on the stand. Ricardo Paive being the one to expose the details of the dream as well as the consequences of them bringing the dogs in and subsequently being made Arguidos.

Although I have made the McMinute video for quick visuals, anyone that is interested on the research will find the full video is, in my opinion, one of the most important videos.

I often forget that many people do not have tme to research and are not aware of the trips to the Triangle and how important they may have been.

They had not visited the area of Budens - Raposeira - Sagres previously (except a trip in May or June) but all of a sudden there was a cluster of trips from July 19th. This was the day before Mark Harrison arrived in Portugal.

I believe it was possible that Gerry knew the dogs were being brought in and this may have been the time they moved/hid Madeleine's body. The smell in the trunk of the car (during July and possibly at this time) was 'justified' by Sandy Cameron as being the blood coming from the shopping bags, but as the cadaver dogs alerted and the neighbour saw the trunk open, even overnight, for several days it is possible this was when Madeleine's body was moved/hidden.

They visited Budens/Raposeira/Sagres several evenings up until the dogs arrived (according to phone pings.) and if this did happen then it certainly would have been traumatic for Kate and with Gerry away may have been too much for her and therefore called Paiva. (At this point he was still their 'friend'.)

As this is of prime importance to me as it may hold a clue as to where Madeleine's body is/was I will be following up the current video with details about each of their trips to suspicious ares according to the phone pings.

I am sure the video 'goes over the head' of many people not aware of its importance but would appreciate any input into this subject for the next video.

I also recall a video where Paulo Sargento refers to their special treatment in the court...I think I know which one it is...

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Post  HiDeHo on Mon 30 Jul - 19:29

In my quest to find the video I came across this.

Is it the same woman and if so, who is she?






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Post  matthew on Mon 30 Jul - 19:32

:hi:deho @MyNanny25 is steel magnolias twitter name...

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Post  kathybelle on Mon 30 Jul - 20:55

HiDeHo wrote:Thanks for the info kathybelle.

I, too, recall the live coverage but had forgotton that Joanna also attended.

From what I can make out now, it was a three day trial/hearing. This was the second day when Goncalo's witnesses were on the stand. Ricardo Paive being the one to expose the details of the dream as well as the consequences of them bringing the dogs in and subsequently being made Arguidos.

Although I have made the McMinute video for quick visuals, anyone that is interested on the research will find the full video is, in my opinion, one of the most important videos.

I often forget that many people do not have tme to research and are not aware of the trips to the Triangle and how important they may have been.

They had not visited the area of Budens - Raposeira - Sagres previously (except a trip in May or June) but all of a sudden there was a cluster of trips from July 19th. This was the day before Mark Harrison arrived in Portugal.

I believe it was possible that Gerry knew the dogs were being brought in and this may have been the time they moved/hid Madeleine's body. The smell in the trunk of the car (during July and possibly at this time) was 'justified' by Sandy Cameron as being the blood coming from the shopping bags, but as the cadaver dogs alerted and the neighbour saw the trunk open, even overnight, for several days it is possible this was when Madeleine's body was moved/hidden.

They visited Budens/Raposeira/Sagres several evenings up until the dogs arrived (according to phone pings.) and if this did happen then it certainly would have been traumatic for Kate and with Gerry away may have been too much for her and therefore called Paiva. (At this point he was still their 'friend'.)

As this is of prime importance to me as it may hold a clue as to where Madeleine's body is/was I will be following up the current video with details about each of their trips to suspicious ares according to the phone pings.

I am sure the video 'goes over the head' of many people not aware of its importance but would appreciate any input into this subject for the next video.

I also recall a video where Paulo Sargento refers to their special treatment in the court...I think I know which one it is...

HiDeHo, I agree entirely with what you say regarding the videos. Many including myself, have been called liars by posters on the You Tube site, when we have been discussing something in a video that is on the page where we are posting. It's plainly obvious that those posters haven't watched the video and neither have they watched any of the other videos or read the files for that matter.

I'm guilty of not commenting on every video and it is because when I watch a video, I save it to favourites and then I forget to take another look at it and comment. Plus I watch a video, intend to comment then I see a post that needs a reply. I end up going off on a tangent and talk about stuff that's on other videos.

There is a wealth of information in the archived pages on Joana's (Morais) website. These pages contain videos, which are provided by yourself and others as well as transcripts of interviews by the McCanns and others involved with this case.

Going back to the court case where the McCanns were trying to get Goncalo Amaral's book banned. I read that the female Judge who gave the McCanns the special treatment, was the daughter of a Judge in the European Court. Goncalo Amaral said he would go to the European Court of Human rights, if he didn't get satisfaction in the Portuguese Courts. Thank goodness the Judges in the Appeals and Supreme Courts, saw sense.

Although I have stated that I think the McCanns might win their forthcoming lawsuit, I now think different, because if there was anything libelous in Dr Amaral's book, the Appeals and Supreme Court Judges, would have upheld the decision the first Judge made.

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Post  HiDeHo on Mon 30 Jul - 22:20

I have just checked and found the live coverage on mccannfiles.

Ricardo Paiva testified on Jan 12th 2010 the first day.

Gerry left the courtroom abruptly on the second day Jan 13th at around 4.00pm and gave the press conference in the video.

If one is to look at the headlines in the papers of that day it may very well be that Gerry may have received notification and had to return to UK for damage control

That is not to say he wasn't angry at Kate for telling about the dream but the repercussions were far more serious.

Thanks to Jilly at Maddie Case Files for compiling all the news articles (for that day and every other day!):

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic5313-10.html





"Maddie died and the parents concealed" - Correio da Manhã 13-01-10

Maddie Is Dead And You Hid Her - The Sun 13-01-10

Kate Dreamt Maddie's Body Was On A Hillside - The Sun 13-01-10

Angry Gerry: There Is No Proof Maddie Is Dead - The Sun 13-01-10

His Smiles, Their Pain - The Sun 13-01-10

Kate McCann made a suspect in Maddy disappearance after a nightmare - Daily Mirror 13-01-10

I Dreamed I Saw Body on Hillside - Daily Mirror 13-01-10

Madeleine's Father Defends Action - Daily Mirror 13-01-10

Madeleine McCann: Gerry McCann angrily dismiss detectives' claims over Maddy - mirror.co.uk 13-01-10

Maddie 'Died' In Apartment, Court Hears - Daily Express 13-01-10

Gerry McCann Angrily Dismisses Maddy Death Claims Outside Court in Portugal - Daily Express 13-01-10

Kate McCann Told Police Of 'Murder' Dream - Daily Star 13-01-10

'McCanns Faked Maddie's Abduction', Police Chief Tells Court - Daily Star 13-01-10

McCanns return to Portugal for libel trial of ex-police chief who led Maddie investigation - Daily Mail 13-01-10

Court agony for McCanns: Couple listen in disbelief as Portuguese police say Maddie is dead and abduction was faked - Daily Mail 13-01-10

Gerry McCann: No evidence to suggest Madeleine is dead - guardian.co.uk 13-01-10

Madeleine McCann: mother's dream was 'turning point' in investigation, court hears - Telegraph 13-01-10

Gerry McCann rejects claims his daughter Madeleine is dead - Telegraph 13-01-10

McCanns dismiss detectives' claims over Madeleine - Independent 13-01-10

'Madeleine McCann dead' court claim rejected by father - BBC 13-01-10

McCanns Face More Claims Of Cover-Up - Sky 13-01-10

Gerry McCann Hits Out At Claims In Book - Sky 13-01-10

Madeleine's Father Denies She Is Dead - Channel 4 13-01-10

VIDEO: Gerry McCann dismisses Madeleine claims - ITN 13-01-10

McCanns ‘invented Maddie’s kidnap’ - Metro 13-01-10

Father hits out at Madeleine theory - Metro 13-01-10

McCanns angrily dismiss detectives' Maddie death claims - Metro 13-01-10

McCanns 'Were Suspected By Police' - London Evening Standard 13-01-10

Gerry McCann hits out at claims his daughter Madeleine is dead - London Evening Standard 13-01-10

Kate and Gerry McCann face detective who claims Madeleine is dead - Leicester Mercury 13-01-10

McCanns Dismiss Detectives' Claims Over Madeleine - Leicester Mercury 13-01-10

Madeleine's death was covered up by McCanns, Portuguese court told - The Scotsman 13-01-10

Madeleine McCann: 'Police wrong to say she's dead' says father - The Scotsman 13-01-10

Gerry McCann dismisses claim that abducted Madeleine is dead on second day of libel trial - Daily Record 13-01-10

McCanns became suspects in Madeleine's disappearance when Kate dreamed of body find, reveals Portuguese cop - Daily Record 13-01-10

Report found Madeleine died in holiday apartment, court told - Herald Scotland 13-01-10

Maddie parents faked abduction, court told - Evening Times (Scotland) 13-01-10

Kate McCann ‘dreamed Madeleine was dead’ Aberdeen Evening Express 13-01-10

We believe Madeleine McCann died in family’s apartment, detective tells libel trial - Belfast Telegraph 13-01-10

Police Believed McCanns Faked Maddy Kidnapping - Irish Independent 13-01-10

Father hits out at Madeleine theory - Irish Independent 13-01-10

McCann Anger At Libel Trial - Ireland Online 13-01-10

McCanns Face More Claims Of Cover-Up - IRN (Radio) 13-01-10

Portuguese Police Accuse McCanns Of Cover-Up - First Post 13-01-10

Parents hid Maddie's body, court told - IOL 13-01-10

Missing British girl Madeleine McCann died in holiday apartment - heraldsun.com.au 13-01-10

Missing British Girl Madeleine McCann Died In Holiday Apartment - news.com.au 13-01-10

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