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Madeleine McCann; Should They Stop Searching?

Post  Annabel on Tue 31 Jul - 9:29

http://www.therealsupermumblog.com/2012/07/madeleine-mccann-stop-searching/



After reading “Is it time for Kate to give up the search for Madeleine” in the May’s Woman magazine I still have no absolute opinion.

It has been 5 years since the tragic news that little Madeleine went missing, with no sightings and no confirmed death; this little girl could be anywhere in the world, worst case scenario she could be buried six feet under. I cannot begin to even imagine the turmoil that Kate must feel.

I admit I have at times questioned Kate and believed she had something to do with the abduction or at least knew more than she was revealing, I am sure at some point you too have questioned why any mother would leave her children alone in a foreign hotel room.

The problem I have is that inevitably Kate is very much living in the past, she has two other young children living in the shadow of their lost sister. While their mum and dad dedicate so much of their time to media attention in the hope of finding a new lead, are these two other children suffering?

Would I give up looking if it were my daughter? I guess I would not. Should she move on with her life? Yes she should but in reality how can you?

Because of the media attention the McCann’s are very much in the public eye and I can’t help but think the twins they have will always be taunted with this tragedy, they are the siblings of the lost child. At age six do they at times get fed up of hearing about this sister they once had that is no longer here?

Will there ever be the happy ending we all wish for? Will Madeleine ever be found? Should Kate move on with her life?

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Post  Panda on Tue 31 Jul - 10:55



Had there not been a Fund, I think the McCanns would have come to terms with the fact that Madeleine is probably dead.
I also think they have enjoyed their 5 years of fame and the money it has made them that this has replaced for them
their loss . Kate has apparently a new book due out next April so obviously they need to keep up the interest in
Madeleine for another Year at least.

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Re: Madeleine McCann; Should They Stop Searching?

Post  LJC on Tue 31 Jul - 11:10

If there were no such thing as the Internet, I think the search would have been halted some time back but the McCanns never could have imagined how many websites would be set up to discuss this case, whether in their favour or otherwise. And they could never have imagined a former police officer of the PJ would not give up his own quest either. For this reason, and for the reasons of their extended families who must wonder if they will ever see the child again in their lifetime, some of them, and who must be constantly on to Kate and Gerry to do something to find her, they cannot give up. And because they themselves said and still say that Madeleine is alive, their families have hope also, maybe false hope, and will urge them to continue searching. And that's the problem, if you are not realistic to start with, if you keep giving those around you the hope and dream that she can be found, you have no choice really but to carry on. And if you are afraid you may be caught out in something sinister, you have to do everything possible to keep one step ahead so as not to cop the blame. Its a hard choice the McCanns have made but it was their choice and I see no way out for them other than to keep this up.

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Post  kathybelle on Tue 31 Jul - 11:10

Annabel wrote:http://www.therealsupermumblog.com/2012/07/madeleine-mccann-stop-searching/


After reading “Is it time for Kate to give up the search for Madeleine” in the May’s Woman magazine I still have no absolute opinion.

It has been 5 years since the tragic news that little Madeleine went missing, with no sightings and no confirmed death; this little girl could be anywhere in the world, worst case scenario she could be buried six feet under. I cannot begin to even imagine the turmoil that Kate must feel.

I admit I have at times questioned Kate and believed she had something to do with the abduction or at least knew more than she was revealing, I am sure at some point you too have questioned why any mother would leave her children alone in a foreign hotel room.

The problem I have is that inevitably Kate is very much living in the past, she has two other young children living in the shadow of their lost sister. While their mum and dad dedicate so much of their time to media attention in the hope of finding a new lead, are these two other children suffering?

Would I give up looking if it were my daughter? I guess I would not. Should she move on with her life? Yes she should but in reality how can you?

Because of the media attention the McCann’s are very much in the public eye and I can’t help but think the twins they have will always be taunted with this tragedy, they are the siblings of the lost child. At age six do they at times get fed up of hearing about this sister they once had that is no longer here?

Will there ever be the happy ending we all wish for? Will Madeleine ever be found? Should Kate move on with her life?

Good morning Annabel

Thanks for the link.

If only these people would read the files, before they write their articles, they would realise that firstly if the story of Madeleine's abduction was true, she wasn't left in a hotel room, she was left in an unlocked, unlit apartment, whether her siblings were with her, has yet to be established. At this moment in time, there is no evidence of an abduction.

The evidence that was found in the apartment, including the cadaver scent on Kate McCanns clothing, Cuddle Cat and clothing that depending on what you read, belonged to either Madeleine or Sean, has lead the PJ to believe that Madeleine came to harm in the apartment and the cadaver scent was covered up by her parents.

Secondly, for Kate to give up her search for Madeleine, she would have had to have started to search for her and she admitted that she and her husband never physically searched for Madeleine. When she was asked if she wanted to join the locals who gave up work for more than a week, to search for Madeleine, she said I did, but for the first 48hrs, we were completely nonfuncioning.

Kate tells now tells a different story in her book. She says that she and her husband were out searching for Madeleine and they were the only ones who were searching for her. If this was true, she would have bumped into the police who were out searching for Madeleine 24/7.

No one except the McCanns and anyone who helped them, knows exactly what happened to Madeleine. However the fact that the McCanns told 181 lies, to save their own skins and admitted never searching for Madeleine, is a sure sign in my opinion, that Madeleine was not abducted, nor did she walk out of that unlocked, unlit apartment.

I have to go out now, but when I return, I will have a look at the link and see if there is somewhere, were I can write to this person. If only to point out what I have written on here.

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Post  Panda on Tue 31 Jul - 11:30

LJC wrote:If there were no such thing as the Internet, I think the search would have been halted some time back but the McCanns never could have imagined how many websites would be set up to discuss this case, whether in their favour or otherwise. And they could never have imagined a former police officer of the PJ would not give up his own quest either. For this reason, and for the reasons of their extended families who must wonder if they will ever see the child again in their lifetime, some of them, and who must be constantly on to Kate and Gerry to do something to find her, they cannot give up. And because they themselves said and still say that Madeleine is alive, their families have hope also, maybe false hope, and will urge them to continue searching. And that's the problem, if you are not realistic to start with, if you keep giving those around you the hope and dream that she can be found, you have no choice really but to carry on. And if you are afraid you may be caught out in something sinister, you have to do everything possible to keep one step ahead so as not to cop the blame. Its a hard choice the McCanns have made but it was their choice and I see no way out for them other than to keep this up.

Morning LJC, don't you think that setting up the Fund so quickly was odd.? Madeleine could have been found dead or alive at any time. As far as the Press is concerned, there has been little reporting for weeks now and Kate had to give
them something to write about so became Ambassador for missing children courtesy of sponsorship of Richard Branson.
The only reason the McCanns keep saying Madeleine is alive is to make money , they know in their hearts she is not alive.

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Re: Madeleine McCann; Should They Stop Searching?

Post  Not Born Yesterday on Tue 31 Jul - 11:44

Exactly Panda and why was the money needed "to search for Madeleine" when there was a full-scale search going on (not of course that the McCanns were involved in that) and in all likelihood she would be found at any time. Uncle Brian Kennedy stated early on that the fund was to be used mainly for legal fees -

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Re: Madeleine McCann; Should They Stop Searching?

Post  Chris on Tue 31 Jul - 11:57

You have to question what searching has actually been done via the fund. We had the example recently of the German/Swiss family. That sighting was known to the PIs years ago yet it was solved within 24 hours as a non-sighting when resurrected in the press. What leads have the PIs actually followed up? SY have claimed 139 investigative leads how many of these could have been run to earth by the PIs. As far as I can see the only real campaign has been the awareness/publicity and that could have been run for 10-20 years with the original funds.

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Post  Panda on Tue 31 Jul - 11:59

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Exactly Panda and why was the money needed "to search for Madeleine" when there was a full-scale search going on (not of course that the McCanns were involved in that) and in all likelihood she would be found at any time. Uncle Brian Kennedy stated early on that the fund was to be used mainly for legal fees -

Morning NBY, I presume the McCanns thought they might be charged at some time with neglect, but common sense tells
us they could have been charged with that while they were in PDL . Richard Branson said he would donate £100,000 IF
the McCanns were charged and the NOTW set up a Fund for anyone who provided information leading to the safe retrun of Madeleine. Neither offer taken up. In their heart of hearts the McCanns must know Madeleine will not be found now
but have to say they think she is still alive to keep the fund going and publicity for Kate's new Book.

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Re: Madeleine McCann; Should They Stop Searching?

Post  LJC on Tue 31 Jul - 12:09

Panda wrote:
LJC wrote:If there were no such thing as the Internet, I think the search would have been halted some time back but the McCanns never could have imagined how many websites would be set up to discuss this case, whether in their favour or otherwise. And they could never have imagined a former police officer of the PJ would not give up his own quest either. For this reason, and for the reasons of their extended families who must wonder if they will ever see the child again in their lifetime, some of them, and who must be constantly on to Kate and Gerry to do something to find her, they cannot give up. And because they themselves said and still say that Madeleine is alive, their families have hope also, maybe false hope, and will urge them to continue searching. And that's the problem, if you are not realistic to start with, if you keep giving those around you the hope and dream that she can be found, you have no choice really but to carry on. And if you are afraid you may be caught out in something sinister, you have to do everything possible to keep one step ahead so as not to cop the blame. Its a hard choice the McCanns have made but it was their choice and I see no way out for them other than to keep this up.

Morning LJC, don't you think that setting up the Fund so quickly was odd.? Madeleine could have been found dead or alive at any time. As far as the Press is concerned, there has been little reporting for weeks now and Kate had to give
them something to write about so became Ambassador for missing children courtesy of sponsorship of Richard Branson.
The only reason the McCanns keep saying Madeleine is alive is to make money , they know in their hearts she is not alive.

I would hate to think they are in this just for the money, but you could well be right! Although it would be heaping trouble on top of more trouble if ever they were brought to justice, so it was mad of them really to take things so far in the first place. However, its what people expect of them, to do everything possible and they have to carry on with it. They will, I guess, argue regarding the fund, that there's no time like the present and the quicker a fund it set up and money comes into it, the quicker she is found. Whether, if she is found dead, it would ever stick to them anyway, regardless of what we know about the evidence found so far, is something they will fight tooth and nail to avoid and that takes money as well!!!

I agree they have not physically looked, especially in the first few hours, it was more like a token jesture, walking around PDL at daybreak after everyone else had been up all night. And the other searches were like photo opportunities, making sure cameras were there to capture them handing out posters in little towns here and there and at airports. They have turned this into a global needle in the haystack search involving everybody else, but they will argue its searching all the same and they will argue they have been the brains behind the search.

Did they know beforehand it would become global. Well it does smack of planning, doesn't it?

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Re: Madeleine McCann; Should They Stop Searching?

Post  Panda on Tue 31 Jul - 12:33



Yes, LCJ....the "Wider Agenda" and " It will be a Year from now" and the speed with which the Fund was set up suggests
they were capable of detailed planning in the midst of their grief, well Gerry was.!!!

When you think , they had almost £1 million in the Fund within months but instead of appointing a Firm specialising
in searching for missing children Metodo 3 , specialising in Fraud and Money Laundering is Appointed. Then we have
Halligen, another specialist in Fraud and Money Laundering and Alpha , a pair of hapless ex detectives who didn't have
a clue. A Private company set up , Directors appointed made up of friends and family, again , no one capable of
hiring and liaising with genuine Agencies. Yet they knew who to appoint when it came to Legal matters.

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Re: Madeleine McCann; Should They Stop Searching?

Post  Bobsy on Tue 31 Jul - 12:37

The mention of the twins is also in HiDeHo's new video.

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Re: Madeleine McCann; Should They Stop Searching?

Post  mara thon on Tue 31 Jul - 12:50

Two "run of the mill" doctors, one, if not both, seeking fame and glory. A tragic "accident", the right telephone numbers to hand, the right people to pull more than a few strings, a lot of lies and misinformation, a government spokesman to spin even more lies and misinformation, get the money rolling in, get jetting around the world to meet as many "high profile" people as possible, turn yourselves from neglectful parents into champions of children, get feted by the police as a hero for neglecting your small child, keep hiring a host of useless PIs, who haven't achieved a single thing as far as I can see. Then once you are rich and well known as doting parents and champions of all lost or neglected children, get the government to give a few more millions for a totally useless and, in my opinion, whitewashed and corrupt review of what exactly?

As for the twins, well considering that Kate herself said the twins never really had much to do with Madeleine, and I doubt they even knew who Madeleine was, well I truly dread to think what they are going to grow up like when their lives are centred around a sister they really didn't know but who is obviously pushed down their throats continually.

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Post  Panda on Tue 31 Jul - 12:54

Bobsy wrote:The mention of the twins is also in HiDeHo's new video.

Yes Bobsy, I just had a look at it . Thankfully, the twins were too young to remember Madeleine very much but I thought
It was a bit strange that kate felt the need to keep reminding them of her. Laying a plate for her at the Table, Buying Christments presents for her, Painting with them and asking whose name it was so they could say "Madeleine" in the
T.V. Documentary. Now the twins are older , the parents are away a lot of the time giving T.V. Interviews about
Kate's Book, appearing on T.V. in the Leveson Enquiry, Kate now becoming an Ambassador for missing children . I bet
the twins are asked questions by schoolmates

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Re: Madeleine McCann; Should They Stop Searching?

Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 31 Jul - 13:01

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Exactly Panda and why was the money needed "to search for Madeleine" when there was a full-scale search going on (not of course that the McCanns were involved in that) and in all likelihood she would be found at any time. Uncle Brian Kennedy stated early on that the fund was to be used mainly for legal fees -

Didn't Gerry say that the money would be used to search for Madeleine when the official search ended? How did he know that the official search would end without finding her?

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Tue 31 Jul - 13:04

The only answer I can come up with to that one is that he knew exactly where Madeleine was and there was no way that anyone else would find out.

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Post  Panda on Tue 31 Jul - 13:12

mara thon wrote:Two "run of the mill" doctors, one, if not both, seeking fame and glory. A tragic "accident", the right telephone numbers to hand, the right people to pull more than a few strings, a lot of lies and misinformation, a government spokesman to spin even more lies and misinformation, get the money rolling in, get jetting around the world to meet as many "high profile" people as possible, turn yourselves from neglectful parents into champions of children, get feted by the police as a hero for neglecting your small child, keep hiring a host of useless PIs, who haven't achieved a single thing as far as I can see. Then once you are rich and well known as doting parents and champions of all lost or neglected children, get the government to give a few more millions for a totally useless and, in my opinion, whitewashed and corrupt review of what exactly?

As for the twins, well considering that Kate herself said the twins never really had much to do with Madeleine, and I doubt they even knew who Madeleine was, well I truly dread to think what they are going to grow up like when their lives are centred around a sister they really didn't know but who is obviously pushed down their throats continually.

Yes mara_thon, as Parents they did nothing to comfort or protect the children , I bet the twins hardly see them .

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Post  Keela on Tue 31 Jul - 14:46

NBY, good point. I think that they know exactly what happened on that holiday and the know the whereabouts of the body. Because a body is what they are looking for, not a living child.

As for a new book by that best selling author, what the hell is she going to write about. How the search has progressed, how the twins are missing their sister still and ask about her daily, how life is not the same or just me me me me as per the last one. There isn't anything she can write about. It has got to be a rehash of the last crap.

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Post  Panda on Tue 31 Jul - 14:59

Keela wrote:NBY, good point. I think that they know exactly what happened on that holiday and the know the whereabouts of the body. Because a body is what they are looking for, not a living child.

As for a new book by that best selling author, what the hell is she going to write about. How the search has progressed, how the twins are missing their sister still and ask about her daily, how life is not the same or just me me me me as per the last one. There isn't anything she can write about. It has got to be a rehash of the last crap.

Hi Keela, apparently it is not due to be published until next April and is an update on the McCann family life. Whether
there will be an admission that they are closing the Fund and will now concentrate on helping other people to search
for their missing children is debateable but I think that will be the final book. Kate will be an ambassador for missing children and NO Stone Unturned selling CD's on how to search for your missing child .

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Tue 31 Jul - 15:02

Kate's instructions on how to find a missing child will definitely be a case of do as I say and not do as I do!


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Post  mara thon on Tue 31 Jul - 16:38

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Kate's instructions on how to find a missing child will definitely be a case of do as I say and not do as I do!


How can Kate Mccann give instructions on how to find a missing child? All the resources, money and assistance she has had over the past five years have produced absolutely no information at all on her lost child.

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Re: Madeleine McCann; Should They Stop Searching?

Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 31 Jul - 16:51

mara thon wrote:
Not Born Yesterday wrote:Kate's instructions on how to find a missing child will definitely be a case of do as I say and not do as I do!


How can Kate Mccann give instructions on how to find a missing child? All the resources, money and assistance she has had over the past five years have produced absolutely no information at all on her lost child.

It would be different if she had actually done some searching herself or if she had managed to find a detective agency that specialised in finding lost children, which couldn't have been that hard.

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Post  kathybelle on Tue 31 Jul - 18:57

I've said the following many times. In my opinion, the fact that the McCanns never searched for Madeleine and told many lies to save their own skins, is a sure sign Madeleine was not abducted and the McCanns know exactly what happened to her.

Another sure sign is the fact that the McCanns contacted Gordon Brown and asked him for help, when they should have been out looking for Madeleine and would have been looking for her, if they played no part in her disappearance.

The Merseyside Priest, who officiated at the Marriage of Gerry and Kate, was notified by Kate and asked to come to PDL as soon as possible, at around 02:00hrs. This was 4hrs after Kate supposedly found Madeleine gone. In my opion this is yet another sure sign that Madeleine was not abducted and the McCanns knew exactly what happened to her and if she was dead or alive.

As we all know, Gerry wrote daily blogs, where he informed people of he and his wife's daily activities, which included their leisure activities. In one blog, he spoke of a fund raising day event that was being organised. He said the event wouldn't be on the 1st anniversary of Madeleine's disappearance, it would be sooner than that. Is this another sure sign Gerry and his wife knew Madeleine was never going to be found? In my opinion it was.

The McCanns have given so many clues, which show that they know exactly what happened to Madeleine and it wasn't abduction. In my opinion, they were also sure that they were never going to be prosecuted, thanks to their friend Gordon Brown, sticking his neck out for them.

I still can't believe that the McCanns have been so protected, for the past 5yrs, because even if Madeleine was abducted or if she walked out of their apartment to look for them, they weren't with her at that time. If the British Government hadn't been involved with this case from day one, the McCanns would have been successfully prosecuted and jailed.

Kate McCann's Portuguese lawyer, Carlos Pinto de Abreu, told Kate that if she was Portuguese, this would have been enough to put her in jail. I heard British lawyers say it was highly likely that along with her husband, she would have faced jail. I know that the Portuguese Justice system, does not let British people off the hook, when they commit crimes in Portugal.

A man has just been jailed in Portugal for committing a crime against a British man in the country. Also a British football fan was jailed when he supposedly took part in violent behaviour at a football match in the country. As far as I remember, he was arrested and bailed and he fled to his UK home. The man, who had always maintained he was innocent, was sentenced to jail in his absence and he was extradited from the UK to Portugal, to serve his sentence.

The man appealed against his conviction and won, on the basis that the evidence against him was flawed.

The point I am trying to make is, the British Government made sure this man was extradited for the crime he was supposed to have committed. Yet the McCanns who have committed a crime, have been protected by the British Government. Why? Who are the McCanns that they can be treated as if they are above the law?

After a period of time in the Portuguese jail, he was allowed to serve the rest of his sentence in the UK

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Post  cherry1 on Tue 31 Jul - 19:02

The Mccanns themselves arent the only issue it is who else was out there and who else
is being protected and what the Mccanns know and what they may be involved in. imo

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Re: Madeleine McCann; Should They Stop Searching?

Post  Lioned on Wed 1 Aug - 22:50

You should never stop searching for a missing child.

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Re: Madeleine McCann; Should They Stop Searching?

Post  AnnaEsse on Wed 1 Aug - 22:55

Lioned wrote:You should never stop searching for a missing child.

I think for the McCanns it's a matter of starting to really search. Bit difficult to stop something you never really started.

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