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Post  Badboy on Mon 24 Sep - 18:55

JUST HEARD ON 6.30 NEWS THAT HIGH COURT HAS RULED HE CAN BE EXTRADITED TO USA.
A CHALLENGE ON HUMAN RIGHTS GROUNDS WAS THROWN OUT,I BELIEVE HE MAY HAVE SOME OTHER PEOPLE GOING WITH HIM.

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Post  kitti on Mon 24 Sep - 19:47

Will he be travelling on a plane that has one engine removed?

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Post  malena stool on Mon 24 Sep - 20:50

Thanks Badboy, that news has brightened what has been a very miserable day...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-19706404

Abu Hamza and Babar Ahmad extradition approved
Babar Ahmad, 37, has been held in UK custody without trial for nearly eight years.

The European Court of Human Rights has given its final approval for the extradition of five major terrorism suspects from the UK to the US.

The court's highest judges said they would not re-open the cases of Abu Hamza al-Masri, Babar Ahmad and others.

The decision means that the extradition of the men, wanted for years by the US, is likely to happen within weeks.

The Home Office welcomed the decision, saying it would ensure the extraditions happen as quickly as possible.

Each man had said they would face inhumane treatment in the United States if they were sent there.

Abu Hamza is accused of planning a terror training camp in the US and assisting hostage-taking in Yemen.

The US says that Babar Ahmad and his co-accused, Syed Talha Ahsan, ran a jihadist website in London that provided material support for terrorism.

Adel Abdul Bary, Khaled Al Fawwaz are accused of being aides to Osama bin Laden in London.

In a statement, the Strasbourg court said: "On 10 April 2012 the European Court of Human Rights held, in the case of Babar Ahmad and Others v. the United Kingdom, that there would be no violation of the applicants' rights if extradited to stand trial in the United States.

THE SUSPECTS
Abu Hamza
Babar Ahmad
Syed Talha Ahsan
Adel Abdul Bary
Khaled al-Fawwa
Profiles: UK-held terror suspects
"On 9/10 July 2012, five of the applicants lodged a request for referral of the case to the Grand Chamber. Today the Grand Chamber Panel decided to reject the request. This means that the Chamber judgment of 10 April 2012 is now final."

Abu Hamza had alleged that he faced inhumane and degrading treatment if imprisoned for life without possibility of parole.

The other four men, Babar Ahmad, Syed Talha Ahsan, Adel Abdul Bary and Khaled Al Fawwaz said that they faced an inhumane regime of solitary confinement in a special "supermax" prison.

A Home Office spokesman said: "The Home Secretary welcomes today's decision not to refer the cases of Abu Hamza and four others to the Grand Chamber. This follows the judgment of the European Court of Human Rights on April 10 to allow the extradition of these five terrorism suspects to the US.

"We will work to ensure that the individuals are handed over to the US authorities as quickly as possible."

Abu Hamza could be extradited within weeks Babar Ahmad's family said: "The decision of the Grand Chamber is largely irrelevant to us as this matter should never have come to this stage had the British police done their job almost nine years ago and provided the material seized from Babar's home to the CPS, rather than secretly passing it to their US counterparts.

"The CPS is now in possession of all that material which forms the basis of the US indictment and should immediately prosecute Babar for conduct allegedly committed in the UK.

"There is enormous public interest in Babar being prosecuted in the UK, as reflected by the fact that almost 150,000 members of the British public signed a government e-petition to this effect last year.

"Moreover, a British businessman Karl Watkins has recently commenced his own private prosecution of Babar based on the principle of the matter.

"We now call on the home secretary to immediately undertake to halt any extradition until the Director of Public Prosecutions makes a decision on this material that been in his possession for several months."


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Post  chrissie1 on Mon 24 Sep - 21:47

Lets hope they get them on a plane tonight

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 24 Sep - 22:53

Babar Ahmad's family said: "The decision of the Grand Chamber is largely irrelevant to us as this matter should never have come to this stage had the British police done their job almost nine years ago and provided the material seized from Babar's home to the CPS, rather than secretly passing it to their US counterparts.

"The CPS is now in possession of all that material which forms the basis of the US indictment and should immediately prosecute Babar for conduct allegedly committed in the UK.

So, Babar Ahmad's family acknowledge that there is enough material for a prosecution but want him prosecuted in the UK? Well, tough sh*t! Commit criminal acts and you get tried where the law says and if you don't want to face harsh punishment, don't do the crime. Seems simple enough to me. Now kindly get the hell out of our country!

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 24 Sep - 22:54

kitti wrote:Will he be travelling on a plane that has one engine removed?

I expect he'll be hoping that the plane is very thoroughly checked for terrorist bombs!

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Post  Lioned on Mon 24 Sep - 22:57

I do hope those nasty Americans torture him.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 24 Sep - 23:06

Lioned wrote:I do hope those nasty Americans torture him.

Couldn't happen to a better person!

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Post  Guest on Mon 24 Sep - 23:09

AnnaEsse wrote:
kitti wrote:Will he be travelling on a plane that has one engine removed?

I expect he'll be hoping that the plane is very thoroughly checked for terrorist bombs!
With unreliable dogs.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Mon 24 Sep - 23:13

Iris wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:
kitti wrote:Will he be travelling on a plane that has one engine removed?

I expect he'll be hoping that the plane is very thoroughly checked for terrorist bombs!
With unreliable dogs.


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Post  Lioned on Mon 24 Sep - 23:27

I assume we (being the Great British tax payer) are still pouring benefits into the hamza household to look after his wife and spawn,thats the ones that arn't in prison for various thieving offences ?

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Post  Badboy on Mon 24 Sep - 23:38

Lioned wrote:I assume we (being the Great British tax payer) are still pouring benefits into the hamza household to look after his wife and spawn,thats the ones that arn't in prison for various thieving offences ?
MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE TOLD THAT INSTEAD OF RECEIVING BENEFITS,THEY SHOULD DO SOME HOMEWORKING TO BRING IN CASH(PAID SURVEYS,FOCUS GROUPS,PAID TO READ EMAIL,MYSTERY SHOPPING,WEBSITE TESTING ETC ETC)

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Post  Lioned on Tue 25 Sep - 9:45

Badboy wrote:
Lioned wrote:I assume we (being the Great British tax payer) are still pouring benefits into the hamza household to look after his wife and spawn,thats the ones that arn't in prison for various thieving offences ?
MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE TOLD THAT INSTEAD OF RECEIVING BENEFITS,THEY SHOULD DO SOME HOMEWORKING TO BRING IN CASH(PAID SURVEYS,FOCUS GROUPS,PAID TO READ EMAIL,MYSTERY SHOPPING,WEBSITE TESTING ETC ETC)

I dont think that lot want to conform with normal behaviour,their aim is to get what they can for nothimg,thats why they are here.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Tue 25 Sep - 11:43

Badboy wrote:
Lioned wrote:I assume we (being the Great British tax payer) are still pouring benefits into the hamza household to look after his wife and spawn,thats the ones that arn't in prison for various thieving offences ?
MAYBE THEY SHOULD BE TOLD THAT INSTEAD OF RECEIVING BENEFITS,THEY SHOULD DO SOME HOMEWORKING TO BRING IN CASH(PAID SURVEYS,FOCUS GROUPS,PAID TO READ EMAIL,MYSTERY SHOPPING,WEBSITE TESTING ETC ETC)

Badboy, your problem is that you think you need to work for some money. You need to develop a sense of entitlement and then you might get all the benefits that Hamza and his family have been receiving.

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Post  Lioned on Fri 28 Sep - 23:58

I hear they are now also looking for his right hand man.

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Post  Panda on Sat 29 Sep - 0:18

Even HM The Queen has intervened in the case of Hamza and voiced her concern "Queeens anger at Hamza Farce" from the Daily Express 26th September.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Sat 29 Sep - 7:47

Panda wrote:Even HM The Queen has intervened in the case of Hamza and voiced her concern "Queeens anger at Hamza Farce" from the Daily Express 26th September.

I'm glad the Queen said something about Hamza. I'm sure most of the non-Muslim population agree with her.

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Post  Panda on Sat 29 Sep - 9:19

AnnaEsse wrote:
Panda wrote:Even HM The Queen has intervened in the case of Hamza and voiced her concern "Queeens anger at Hamza Farce" from the Daily Express 26th September.

I'm glad the Queen said something about Hamza. I'm sure most of the non-Muslim population agree with her.

Morning AnnaEsse, I think the British are becoming more upset about the way their Country is being overrun by illegals and immigrants given automatic rights the same as those who have paid Social security all their working lives. The Justice system is too weak when a Judge allows an illegal to stay in Britain because he has formed a bond with his cat.!!!!

When I was in Jersey it was noticeable that many Portugese are employed in Shops and Restaurants and the indigenous population is very angry about this. However, in defence of the Portugese, my son and I had lunch one day in a Restaurant well known to tourists. Our Waiter was a very pleasant helpful young Man, Polish, who worked 10 hours a day and wanted to earn enough money to pay for University Fees in Poland , I gave him a good tip.

BTW....have a look at the "Members" bit above, my Computer shows a mass of dots, not the word...is yours the same?

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Post  wjk on Fri 5 Oct - 15:16

He loses his appeal!
Get him out NOW! fgs!


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Post  chrissie on Fri 5 Oct - 15:20

Start spreading the news, I'm leaving today....
I'm gonna make a brand new start of it


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Post  Panda on Fri 5 Oct - 15:49

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Five suspected terrorists including Abu Hamza al-Masri can be extradited to the US, ending a long legal battle, UK High Court judges have ruled.

The radical cleric, Babar Ahmad, Syed Talha Ahsan, Adel Abdul Bary and Khaled al-Fawwaz failed to show "new and compelling" reasons not to send them.

Their appeal came after the European Court of Human Rights backed successive UK courts in ruling for extradition.

Judges said their extradition "may proceed immediately".

The Home Office has said will try to deport them "as quickly as possible".

Judges Sir John Thomas and Mr Justice Ousley said in their ruling that there was an "overwhelming public interest in the functioning of the extradition system" and that there was "no appeal from our decision".

The written ruling, read out in court, concluded that "each of the claimants' applications for permission to apply for judicial review or for a re-opening of the statutory appeals be dismissed".

"It follows that their extradition to the United States of America may proceed immediately."

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Of Abu Hamza, whose lawyers argued he may not be fit to face trial on medical grounds, they said: "The sooner he is put on trial the better".

The judges rejected a plea by Abu Hamza to delay his extradition so he could undergo an MRI brain scan which, his lawyers said, could show he was unfit to plead because of degenerative problems.

The 54-year-old, a former imam at Finsbury Park mosque, north London, was suffering from chronic sleep deprivation and depression as a result of eight years in prison, his lawyers added.

The BBC's Dominic Casciani, at the High Court, said the British government had got the result it had wanted to see for eight years.



I hope he gets a Police escort to the Plane and a platoon of marksmen ready to shoot down anyone who tries to free him.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 5 Oct - 16:04

I don't give a flying feck about Hamza's health. What did he care when he was preaching hatred outside Finsbury Park mosque? Did he care that he might stir up violence that could cause threats to other peoples' health? Not one jot did he care. He doesn't like this country, he doesn't like our culture, but he likes the freedom to say so. Sling your hook Hamza!

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Post  Panda on Fri 5 Oct - 16:15

AnnaEsse wrote:I don't give a flying feck about Hamza's health. What did he care when he was preaching hatred outside Finsbury Park mosque? Did he care that he might stir up violence that could cause threats to other peoples' health? Not one jot did he care. He doesn't like this country, he doesn't like our culture, but he likes the freedom to say so. Sling your hook Hamza!

I hope he does not get another Lawyer to try to get a stay on the extradition. The Human rights Bill is flawed and Britain is too soft, as are many Judges who try cases of immigration and extradition. It says much that the Queen let it be known how she felt on this matter.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 5 Oct - 16:17

Panda wrote:
AnnaEsse wrote:I don't give a flying feck about Hamza's health. What did he care when he was preaching hatred outside Finsbury Park mosque? Did he care that he might stir up violence that could cause threats to other peoples' health? Not one jot did he care. He doesn't like this country, he doesn't like our culture, but he likes the freedom to say so. Sling your hook Hamza!

I hope he does not get another Lawyer to try to get a stay on the extradition. The Human rights Bill is flawed and Britain is too soft, as are many Judges who try cases of immigration and extradition. It says much that the Queen let it be known how she felt on this matter.

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Abu Hamza being put on a flight TONIGHT to the US.

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Post  AnnaEsse on Fri 5 Oct - 16:33

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Two US civilian jets, one of which is registered to the US Department of Justice, are on the tarmac at an air base in eastern England #Hamza

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