Stephen Birch
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Re: Stephen Birch
Loopdaloop wrote:Not Born Yesterday wrote:If you're brave enough Loopdaloop, you can ask him yourself about his motivation! He's on Facebook in his own name Stephen D.Birch.
No doubt if he believed that Madeleine was still alive, the McCanns would welcome him to their merry band of crooks and charlatans.
The emails for every sorry character from this charade are available online.
Top of my contact list for 'when brave' would be Yvonne Martin, followed by Clarence Mitchell and then the Gaspar's!
Yes, Yvonne Martin and the Gaspars. It would be fascinating to hear what they had to say without media and McCann pressure.
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weissnicht wrote:Clarence Mitchell???
Not Born Yesterday wrote:I'm not sure I understand you Loopdaloop but it is early in the day and I had a virtually sleepless night.
I meant that anyone who contacts Stephen Birch would need to be brave as they would then be on the personal receiving end of his lunacy.
Bravery would be needed too for Clarence Mitchell in view of all his murky connections - you never know what could happen next.
The Gaspars and Yvonne Martin would be interesting people to contact though.
DavidA wrote:Loopdaloop wrote:Not Born Yesterday wrote:If you're brave enough Loopdaloop, you can ask him yourself about his motivation! He's on Facebook in his own name Stephen D.Birch.
No doubt if he believed that Madeleine was still alive, the McCanns would welcome him to their merry band of crooks and charlatans.
The emails for every sorry character from this charade are available online.
Top of my contact list for 'when brave' would be Yvonne Martin, followed by Clarence Mitchell and then the Gaspar's!
Yes, Yvonne Martin and the Gaspars. It would be fascinating to hear what they had to say without media and McCann pressure.
All three of these I bet hold some really interesting prices of the puzzle!
All would know things that would add up to a whole much greater than the parts.
I bet Clarence has seen things that he might recognise as strange, or might not yet an external observer might interpret aspects of the mccanns interactions with him differently!
I would love to ask Yvonne more about why she broke cover and confidentiality to name David Payne as someone she 'may' have come across through work.I bet she knows exactly where she recognised him from but due to aforementioned confidentiality was never able to properly say.
With regard to the gaspar's, they were suspicious then, I bet they are still suspicious now. I bet they have an occasional browse of these forums also. It would be human nature to do so!
But I bet if questioned they would have a lot to say about the 'agenda' and the 'getting the stories straight!
As if in the scenario you had lost a child that you would be spending time doing that!!!
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Yes. Loopdaloop, I think it is curious that whatever happened (assuming all the evidence is correct and it was not an abduction), happened in a way that made it important that the group kept to or tried to keep to a single story.
Based on the Gaspar's statement, it is possible the McCanns knew something about the Paynes that would be enough. Or maybe there was more involvement in events from all of the tapas group that led to the disappearance.
I think it is probably a combination of both because I believe the tapas night was planned.
Since I saw the airport bus video with Gerry making no effort to be nice, in front of his children, on the way to a family holiday. Clearly something was very wrong, even if that and the disappearance are not connected. But I think the coincidence of this is too much, so I believe there is some connection.
And why would the film be kept on the phone? Perhaps someone wanted to found, someone who could not say anything directly.
Then there is the amazing lack of photos of Madeleine while on holiday.
Most of Amaral's focus was on the tapas night. In my opinion, what is most important happened before this.
I believe the end of this may happen not because of investigation or any guilt from Gerry or Kate, but one of their friends who may decide that their own freedom and reputation may not be worth keeping a potential secret like this.
Based on the Gaspar's statement, it is possible the McCanns knew something about the Paynes that would be enough. Or maybe there was more involvement in events from all of the tapas group that led to the disappearance.
I think it is probably a combination of both because I believe the tapas night was planned.
Since I saw the airport bus video with Gerry making no effort to be nice, in front of his children, on the way to a family holiday. Clearly something was very wrong, even if that and the disappearance are not connected. But I think the coincidence of this is too much, so I believe there is some connection.
And why would the film be kept on the phone? Perhaps someone wanted to found, someone who could not say anything directly.
Then there is the amazing lack of photos of Madeleine while on holiday.
Most of Amaral's focus was on the tapas night. In my opinion, what is most important happened before this.
I believe the end of this may happen not because of investigation or any guilt from Gerry or Kate, but one of their friends who may decide that their own freedom and reputation may not be worth keeping a potential secret like this.
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Last night I read Yvonne Martin's statement complete on the McCannfiles. Parts of it I had just not taken in before. She lives in Portugal for several months of the year, and has done so for the best part of a decade. I wonder if she is one of the British non-suspects who live in the Algarve who might be asked further questions via PJ with the SY looking on. I hope so.
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Should anyone be missing Stephen Birch (okay, not very likely I know) he's joined this Facebook group and is currently in full flow. I don't suppose he will last there for much longer.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/JillHavernCompleteMysteryofMadeleineMcCann/1578436885734132/?notif_t=group_comment_follow
https://www.facebook.com/groups/JillHavernCompleteMysteryofMadeleineMcCann/1578436885734132/?notif_t=group_comment_follow
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Thank you NBY. x Very interesting ...some good posters on there. Just sat for an hour when I should have been working. lol Yes, wonder how long he will last... He is very determined I must say.
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I felt tempted to read it but I fear that if I do I'll end up more screwed up than him...
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He is actually being polite at present. Maybe he has at last learned that ranting and raving don't do himself any favours.
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Not Born Yesterday wrote:He is actually being polite at present. Maybe he has at last learned that ranting and raving don't do himself any favours.
They all start that way! Usually doesn't last.
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Can someone just confirm the dogs had a sniff around Murats driveway and didnt find anything so if so i think i trust the dogs more than Birch's cardboard box with a few wires hanging out of it.
Which makes the man a loon i think !
Which makes the man a loon i think !
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Lioned wrote:Can someone just confirm the dogs had a sniff around Murats driveway and didnt find anything so if so i think i trust the dogs more than Birch's cardboard box with a few wires hanging out of it.
Which makes the man a loon i think !
Searched Murats house on 4th August
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id161.html
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fred wrote:Lioned wrote:Can someone just confirm the dogs had a sniff around Murats driveway and didnt find anything so if so i think i trust the dogs more than Birch's cardboard box with a few wires hanging out of it.
Which makes the man a loon i think !
Searched Murats house on 4th August
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id161.html
Thanks,thats what i thought.My guess is they may well have been back to look again under the new investigation and found nothing !
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BANNED FROM WHAT GROUP?Not Born Yesterday wrote:He's now been banned from the group.
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Not Born Yesterday wrote:Should anyone be missing Stephen Birch (okay, not very likely I know) he's joined this Facebook group and is currently in full flow. I don't suppose he will last there for much longer.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/JillHavernCompleteMysteryofMadeleineMcCann/1578436885734132/?notif_t=group_comment_follow
This one, Badboy. He was actually polite which makes a change but he just wouldn't answer questions or provide proof of his claim that sniffer dogs reacted at the Murat house.
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THANKS YOU.Not Born Yesterday wrote:Not Born Yesterday wrote:Should anyone be missing Stephen Birch (okay, not very likely I know) he's joined this Facebook group and is currently in full flow. I don't suppose he will last there for much longer.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/JillHavernCompleteMysteryofMadeleineMcCann/1578436885734132/?notif_t=group_comment_follow
This one, Badboy. He was actually polite which makes a change but he just wouldn't answer questions or provide proof of his claim that sniffer dogs reacted at the Murat house.
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