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Why would the" Government /Home office ram home the abduction facade"

Post  snowflake on Wed 26 Sep - 23:10

Interested in why?

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Re: Why would the" Government /Home office ram home the abduction facade"

Post  kitti on Thu 27 Sep - 7:20

Why would the government send Mitchell to be the Mccanns spokeman?



If the government weren't involved then they wouldnt off sent him to help 'cover up'....whats the need.

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Re: Why would the" Government /Home office ram home the abduction facade"

Post  cass on Thu 27 Sep - 9:01

t 10 i think

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Thu 27 Sep - 9:12

What does t10 mean, Cass? Sorry, it's a bit early in the day for me.

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Post  marxman on Thu 27 Sep - 9:29

Not Born Yesterday wrote:What does t10 mean, Cass? Sorry, it's a bit early in the day for me.

!0th Tapas member I think?

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Re: Why would the" Government /Home office ram home the abduction facade"

Post  kitti on Thu 27 Sep - 10:21

Where is this 10 tapas....if he was the then we have to go back to the files and find him because if he is there....he's findable

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Thu 27 Sep - 10:34

There are rumours that there was at least one other member of the party who got the hell out of there to avoid being questioned but whether that's true or not, who knows. What is certain is that, right from the start when the most obvious solution was that a child had simply wandered off, the amount of help from high-ranking government officials is completely unprecedented.

There never has been a case before like it and I doubt there ever will be again. As time has gone on and it has become clear that the abduction story is just that - a story - we can only wonder why the British government has chosen to support it.

Of course, politicians have always been known to be economical with the truth themselves!

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Post  Bobsy on Thu 27 Sep - 10:39

Not Born Yesterday wrote:There are rumours that there was at least one other member of the party who got the hell out of there to avoid being questioned but whether that's true or not, who knows. What is certain is that, right from the start when the most obvious solution was that a child had simply wandered off, the amount of help from high-ranking government officials is completely unprecedented.

There never has been a case before like it and I doubt there ever will be again. As time has gone on and it has become clear that the abduction story is just that - a story - we can only wonder why the British government has chosen to support it.

Of course, politicians have always been known to be economical with the truth themselves!

Hi NBY, didn't GA mention a 10th 11th or even 12th other element?

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Thu 27 Sep - 10:46

Yes I was about to add to my post that it was said that there could have been up to three other people in the party.

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Post  mara thon on Thu 27 Sep - 13:36

Since we all heard his royal highness GM say he wasn't there to enjoy himself, perhaps if he was questioned properly by the authorities as to why he was there, some things might become a little clearer.

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Post  Guest on Thu 27 Sep - 14:10

snowflake wrote:Interested in why?

It's your Topic - perhaps you could give us your own thoughts?

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Post  kitti on Thu 27 Sep - 14:35

Who's Irwin?

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Thu 27 Sep - 14:39

The only Irwins I know of in this context (nothing to do with mad zookeepers!) were two sisters who were in PDL at the same time as the McCanns.

I'm not aware of anything which connects them in any other way.

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Post  chrissie on Thu 27 Sep - 14:40


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Re: Why would the" Government /Home office ram home the abduction facade"

Post  pennylane on Thu 27 Sep - 14:50

Hi Snowflake

If you were a newcomer I'd be inclined to spend time explaining all the reasons many of us believe the British Govt is involved in keeping the gruesome twosome and their mates home free, and pushing the abduction facade... but you've been here many years now, and I don't see the point in going over the same issues that have been covered with you here in the past. Sorry.

Anyway, interesting thread...


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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Thu 27 Sep - 15:12

Quite, Pennylane! I have a strict no troll feeding rule so I was going to give this a wide berth but other people joined in and it became interesting.

There was confusion on another forum about the Irwins being American nurses but it's more likely that they're British. Their first names are Bridget (not sure of the spelling) and Naomi.

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Re: Why would the" Government /Home office ram home the abduction facade"

Post  marxman on Thu 27 Sep - 15:26

Just from somewhere away back from the
back of my brain, wasn't there supposed
to be a man with his teenage son who
fled the scene possibly in a private jet?
Apologies if this was myth or rumour or
just by brain collecting senseless trivia.

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Re: Why would the" Government /Home office ram home the abduction facade"

Post  Not Born Yesterday on Thu 27 Sep - 15:32

You might be thinking of Philip Edmonds, a nephew of the Labour MP Margaret Hodge. He left earlier than expected with his three sons (none of them teenagers though) and claims to have a photo of them with Madeleine in the background. That would be very interesting to see in view of the doubtful ones issued by the McCanns but it's never been published.

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Re: Why would the" Government /Home office ram home the abduction facade"

Post  pennylane on Thu 27 Sep - 15:36

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Quite, Pennylane! I have a strict no troll feeding rule so I was going to give this a wide berth but other people joined in and it became interesting.

There was confusion on another forum about the Irwins being American nurses but it's more likely that they're British. Their first names are Bridget (not sure of the spelling) and Naomi.

Yes I remember questions being asked about who they were, when we were searching for the possible 10/11th tapasniks?

@ Marxman, regarding the man and son, I remember reading that they left a day or two early; and I don't remember the source of the discussions either.

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Post  cass on Thu 27 Sep - 15:48

marxman wrote:Just from somewhere away back from the
back of my brain, wasn't there supposed
to be a man with his teenage son who
fled the scene possibly in a private jet?
Apologies if this was myth or rumour or
just by brain collecting senseless trivia.
yes mossman --- i will never forget when it hit sky there was talk of broken furniture etc -- thats why my first thought was domestic gone wrong --- also early days talk of a teenager and another family -- like everything else whooooosh gone and i mean gone -- i am not the only one that thought they had read heard it --- talked about in the sun forum and 3as too

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Post  Lillyofthevalley on Thu 27 Sep - 16:16

mara thon wrote:Since we all heard his royal highness GM say he wasn't there to enjoy himself, perhaps if he was questioned properly by the authorities as to why he was there, some things might become a little clearer.


I remember a Portuguese posters on the original 3As said that when the UK find out the truth your jaws will hit the floor, so yes imo there is some person/s who was quite high up that was with the lot of them on that vacation, all of which were upto no good, what I dont kno, but for those kids to be put in a creche every day and left in the apartments night after night, something was happening involving adults only.

I do beleave that the UK Government did help at the start only because it was a "good will" brownie points, look at us helping out these poors Doctors, I dont beleave they are helping them now or since their arguido was lifted.

If they were protected there wouldn't be a review and we certainly wouldn't have seen sight nor sound of them for the last 5 years, and I don't htink they would be us nutters blogging because it would have been well and truly hushed up, if our Governemnts want anything covering up its done simple as that, why do they desperately need funds and begging for money all the time????..... because these child neglectors are well and truly on their on imo.....
No Brian Kennedy, No Government and def No celebs!!!!!

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Post  Lillyofthevalley on Thu 27 Sep - 16:23

marxman wrote:Just from somewhere away back from the
back of my brain, wasn't there supposed
to be a man with his teenage son who
fled the scene possibly in a private jet?
Apologies if this was myth or rumour or
just by brain collecting senseless trivia.


Yes I remember, that came from the 3As site somebody posted that it was Brian Kennedy and his young Son, on the night it all kicked off they flew out of PT in a private jet, but I dont beleave that I think Kennedy got involved because at that time he really did beleave they were innocent and that Maddy had been abducted.

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Post  duncanmac on Thu 27 Sep - 16:37

I remember a Portuguese posters on the original 3As said that when the UK find out the truth your jaws will hit the floor

No that was good old Vera from Kent, who claimed to be on holiday in PDL at the time and was never heard of again.
Proved to be as reliable as Coldwater in the end

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Re: Why would the" Government /Home office ram home the abduction facade"

Post  marxman on Thu 27 Sep - 19:17

Hi Snowflake, Facade? or did you mean charade?

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Re: Why would the" Government /Home office ram home the abduction facade"

Post  Bobsy on Thu 27 Sep - 19:49

Well that's kept you otherwise engaged for 22 hours

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