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Post  Loopdaloop on Sat 3 Nov - 20:34

Hi All,
I just followed a link from the digitalspy forum (which I still snoop on occasionally) to a thread about Jimmy Saville on the David Ike Forum.
What was interesting is the links that are being drawn to Gerry Mccann. I will try and link the photos but here is the page
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222773&page=554


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Post  interested on Sat 3 Nov - 21:22

I've always thought McCann must have "something" on higher ups to be able to contact Brown so readily and obtain whatever co-operation was required when they were desperate.

As I said on another post, I had never heard of this guy Savile before (he is not a household name in Canada) but I am sickened not only by what I have been reading about him, but the fact that this does not seem to be news to so many higher-ups who were in a position to put a stop to the abuse.

I does make me wonder if Gerry McCann was 'in the know'; it must have been at least rumoured among certain circles.


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Post  dazedandconfused on Sat 3 Nov - 21:36

Loopdaloop wrote:Hi All,
I just followed a link from the digitalspy forum (which I still snoop on occasionally) to a thread about Jimmy Saville on the David Ike Forum.
What was interesting is the links that are being drawn to Gerry Mccann. I will try and link the photos but here is the page
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=222773&page=554


Thanks Loopdaloop. May all these pervs rot in hell.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sat 3 Nov - 21:43

I've been wondering too if JS and the McCanns might have had some mutual like-minded friends.

It seems unlikely that anyone other than a few minor players will be rounded up but you never know what might happen.

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Post  Badboy on Sat 3 Nov - 23:02

Not Born Yesterday wrote:I've been wondering too if JS and the McCanns might have had some mutual like-minded friends.

It seems unlikely that anyone other than a few minor players will be rounded up but you never know what might happen.

I HAVE BEEN THINKING ALONG THE LINES OF CONNECTION WITH JS,BUT IT SEEMS INCREDITABLE IF THERE WERE SUCH A CONNECTION.

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Post  Loopdaloop on Sun 4 Nov - 3:30

Badboy wrote:
Not Born Yesterday wrote:I've been wondering too if JS and the McCanns might have had some mutual like-minded friends.

It seems unlikely that anyone other than a few minor players will be rounded up but you never know what might happen.

I HAVE BEEN THINKING ALONG THE LINES OF CONNECTION WITH JS,BUT IT SEEMS INCREDITABLE IF THERE WERE SUCH A CONNECTION.

This may be a connection... although it could be tenuous...

Today in the paper it was written about police investigating the links beteen Saville and Sutcliff and whether they were friends before broadmoor
(considering a body was found near savilles home

The son of first Ripper victim Wilma McCann joined the call for a probe into Savile’s relationship with Sutcliffe.
Richard McCann, 42, was five when The Ripper smashed his mother’s head with a hammer and stabbed her 14 times. The 1975 murder was also in Savile’s home city of Leeds but further from the DJ’s flat than the Irene Richardson attack.
Mr McCann said: “If Savile was party to any murder the public and the families of the victims have a right to know about it. It should be investigated. If an expert has said this needs looking into then there should be an investigation into their relationship and I would welcome police findings.”
Mr McCann met Savile weeks before he died — and thinks the cigar-chomping Top of the Pops legend could have had personality traits similar to Sutcliffe’s.


He said: “I found him to be somebody almost lacking in any feelings. He just talked about himself.
“I was going to have a chat with him about my work with young people and maybe get some words of wisdom. But I could not get a word in. I thought this was a person who couldn’t give a s*** about other people. When I think about the way he was with me it’s similar to how I’ve heard the Ripper described when he was interviewed by the police.”
Forensic psychologist Dr Ian Stephen has said he believes Savile was capable of murder as his craving for sex kicks grew increasingly extreme.
Dr Stephen said: “It is possible that he upped the game. There is always that risk with people who are sensation seekers.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4626112/BBC-Paedo-DJ-Jimmy-Savile-and-the-Yorkshire-Ripper-Peter-Sutcliffe-have-been-linked.html


I've been trying to look up online Richard Mccann's relatives...
(Anyone fancy emailing him to ask?
http://www.richardmccann.co.uk/1975-to-today/ Book Richard McCann now on 07908 944750 or email justine@richardmccann.co.uk to find out more.)


Richard McCann became a father for the first time this summer. His daughter, Skye, now four months old, was named after the Scottish island his own mother so loved. That the little girl will never know her paternal grandmother naturally grieves him.
More upsetting, however, is the fact that one day he will have to tell her - before someone else does - how her grandmother died. And, equally painfully, how she lived.
Richard was five when his mother, Wilma, was murdered in Leeds in 1975. History has remembered her as the Yorkshire Ripper?s first victim. Her defining, and inescapable, characteristic - writ large in headlines all over the world and repeated ad nauseum for more than 30 year


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-424030/The-anguish-serial-killers-legacy-victims-son.html#ixzz2BDl5KbZD

and it turns out his father was Gerry Mccann !


Wilma McCann's son Richard is now a motivational speaker who uses his experience of overcoming the trauma to help others. He has revealed that Wilma escaped to Leeds from her abusive husband Gerry. Following her murder, Richard and his siblings were sent back into his care and faced a horrific ordeal of beatings and abuse both physical and mental. Mention of Wilma was forbidden in the house and the children had to face both constant taunts about her occupation and renewed horror with every subsequent victim that Sutcliffe claimed.
http://www.weirdisland.co.uk/people/murders/wilma-mccann.html

Although a different Gerry, quite often people in families reuse names within their family network!
Tenuous, but If anyone on here that has a subscription to ancestory.com fancies checking out the family tree, Pamalan has a list of names as a good starting block -- >http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/FAMILY.htm

Perhaps we should email Gerry to ask

Dr Gerry McCann

Consultant Cardiologist/Honorary Senior Lecturer
BSc (Physiology/Sports Science), University of Glasgow, 1989
MB ChB University of Glasgow, 1992
MRCP (UK), 1995
Dip.Sp.Med., Scottish Royal Colleges, 1997
MD University of Glasgow, 2002

Tel: 0116 256 3402/3476

Email: gerry.mccann@uhl-tr.nhs.uk

Gerry has connections with Leeds General Infirmatory where Jimmy Saville stalked the corridors

Locations
United Kingdom
Glenfield Hospital Recruiting
Leicester, Leicestershire, United Kingdom, LE3 9QP
Contact: Anvesha Singh, MBChB as707@leicester.ac.uk
Principal Investigator: Gerry P McCann, MBChB, MD
Leeds General Infirmary Not yet recruiting
Leeds, West Yorkshire, United Kingdom, LS1 3EX
Contact: John Greenwood, MBChB, PhD +44 113 2432799 J.Greenwood@leeds.ac.uk
Principal Investigator: John Greenwood, MBChB, PhD
University of Glasgow Not yet recruiting
Glasgow, United Kingdom, G12 8QQ
Contact: Colin Berry, BSc, MBChB, PhD +44 1413301671 Colin.Berry@glasgow.ac.uk
Principal Investigator: Colin Berry, BSc, MBChB, PhD
Sponsors and Collaborators
University Hospitals, Leicester
Investigators
Principal Investigator: Gerry P McCann, MBChB, MD University of Leicester
http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01658345

Further relevant links re: leeds and Leicester

1.http://www.mccannfiles.com/id112.html
2. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-20040480

A further link is that Clarence Mitchell was the regional reporter for leeds!

Profile: Clarence Mitchell BBC News

Page last updated at 11:43 GMT, Monday, 24 September 2007 12:43 UK

Clarence Mitchell is back in front of the camera again - this time as the spokesman for Kate and Gerry McCann, the parents of missing four-year-old Madeleine. Former colleague Laurie Margolis recalls his time as a BBC journalist.

My first memories of Clarence were when he joined the BBC as a regional reporter in Leeds.

Then he made it down to London, first on Breakfast News, then as one of the team of reporters who worked for the main news bulletins on national TV and radio.

I was another in that reporter pool in the early 1990s, and it was a difficult time for many of us, because the BBC bosses of that era became obsessed with specialists, people who may well have known their topic, but were often poor at turning that into watchable TV News.

General reporters like Clarence were highly skilled TV journalists, able to get their heads round any subject at short notice. But such people were out of fashion, and I think Clarence found it frustrating.

Nevertheless, he became a major figure in several big domestic stories.

He was closely involved with the Fred and Rosemary West case, where a murderous couple had killed young girls and buried the bodies under their patio in Gloucester.

Royal coverage

He was one of the first reporters to arrive at Gowan Avenue, Fulham in south west London, when the immensely popular BBC TV presenter Jill Dando was shot dead in a murder many feel has never been satisfactorily explained.

And more recently, in a story he worked on right up to the day he left the BBC, Clarence led coverage of the murder of the Surrey schoolgirl Millie Dowler in 2002. The case has never been solved.

Towards the end of his BBC career Clarence became heavily used on royal stories. He was deeply involved in coverage of the post-Diana era and the death of the Queen Mother.

Clarence was also a presenter on various BBC news programmes, and may have been looking to make that the main plank of his career.

But the presenting world is a precarious and capricious one, and he never quite made it.

One night, when I was working through the night, Clarence was presenting hourly bulletins on BBC News 24.

He did the 1am, and the 2am, but at 3am a slightly dishevelled looking producer appeared doing the news. It turned out Clarence had closed his eyes, and had slept through the 3am programme.

Madeleine maelstrom

Clarence left the BBC quite suddenly, making a move into the Labour government as director of its Media Monitoring Unit. His salary was widely reported to be £70,000 a year.

As the Madeleine McCann story exploded this summer, it became clear that a high level of control and organisation would be needed to cope with the media maelstrom.

Clarence was plucked from his job, and sent out to handle the media, rather than be part of the media, on a massive crime story. Now he's left his government job and gone in with the McCanns full-time.

Setting aside the essential tragedy of whatever happened to Madeleine McCann, I would imagine Clarence is content in his new role as the family's voice.

He's centre stage on a huge story, intimately involved as ever, and on television and in the papers all the time.

It was extraordinary how, last week, his intervention seemed to eliminate within hours any misgiving about the McCanns in the British media.

Wouldn't it be wonderful if he gets to tell us Madeleine has been found safe and well?
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id255.html

Another link found is in the following obituary of Gordon Burn, Journalist and author:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/culture-obituaries/books-obituaries/5880715/Gordon-Burn.html

He was also an award-winning novelist, returning in titles such as Alma Cogan (1991) and Fullalove (1995) to his dark recurring themes of death, celebrity, and the celebration of misfortune. “Almost everything I have written,” he once observed “has been about celebrity, and how for most people celebrity is a kind of death.”


Burn spent two years living over a pub in Bingley, west Yorkshire, Peter Sutcliffe’s home town, interviewing everyone he could find who knew him. For a writer who listed “idling in pubs” among his recreations, the book was hard-won and the experience a salutary one.
As an unvarnished Geordie, Burn was able to win the trust of Sutcliffe’s father and siblings, recognising in the family’s working-class culture the signifiers of his own impoverished upbringing in Newcastle, he wove a horrific picture of Sutcliffe’s life and murderous times, tempering the broad strokes of each successive killing with the telling, piercing detail that caused the finished book to transcend the “true crime” genre.


Burn’s ambitious last book, Born Yesterday: The News as a Novel (2008) fictionalised and linked real events that unfolded in the summer of 2007, including the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in Portugal and of Tony Blair as prime minister.
With a cast including Kate and Gerry McCann (the parents of the missing child) and their spokesman Clarence Mitchell, who, more than a decade before, had covered the Rose West trial for the BBC, the book was written in six weeks flat,

His subjects are very interesting, To MR Burn they obviously share some sort of link. Anyone read his last book? Perhaps he had some sort of greater awareness!

An interview by Mr Burn's on his book

Reality is always changing. It changes constantly, and as a writer you have to find new ways of capturing the reality

The instant a newsworthy event occurs, it is misrepresented in its reporting – fictionalized, really. The line between reality and its representation has become rivetingly porous.

It was the McCanns’ media literacy, which some people believed sat awkwardly with their assigned public role of grieving parents, as well as their access to wealthy and powerful people, that was interpreted in some quarters as being transgressive – or, at least, worthy of comment – in itself. It was something unexpected and new in the world. Their appointment of an official press spokesman – a ‘spin doctor’ – was another intriguing development.

You wrote a piece in Granta 53 about the trial of Rosemary West in which you say that ‘there was nothing much to see and it was always much the same, but the heavy media presence was in itself justification for having the story high in the running order’. You wrote this in 1996. What sort of watershed do you think that McCann story marked?

The McCanns’ apparently instant decision to use the press rather than be used by it, which included their refusal to appear before the cameras as stereotypical ‘victims’, was riveting to observe. It made Gordon Brown and his cohorts’ naively ill-judged and frequently embarrassing performances in public at around the same time appear even more bizarre.
http://www.granta.com/New-Writing/Interview-Gordon-Burn

and Jon Gaunt has also mentioned the mccann's and sutcliffe together in the same piece!

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/1198108/Jon-Gaunt-How-can-she-aid-such-a-monster.html
EVIL Peter Sutcliffe is making a bid for freedom by claiming his human rights were breached all those years ago when he was found guilty of butchering 13 young women.
Listen up, you piece of filth — if there was any real justice in this country your human rights would be completely academic by now as you would have done the Saddam shuffle straight to the gallows after your trial.
You and your lawyer should both shut up.
I don’t care if you’re mad or bad but as far as I’m concerned your brief is definitely sad, representing scum like you.
Sutcliffe will never be released, so why are we pandering to him and his brief?
Why are we going to waste thousands of OUR money on this nonsense dragging through the courts?
And why does the legal system always seem to fight for the human rights of the monsters in our society and not the decent silent majority?

Brief ... Saimo Chahal
What about the human rights of the women of the UK?
I don’t know how mother-of-two Saimo Chahal can live with herself as she represents Sutcliffe.
I guess she’s got broad shoulders after being crowned legal rights lawyer of the year and having her award presented by Cherie Blair.
Saimo, I bet your children are really proud of you.
WHAT is it with the McCanns? They say they will do anything to help find Maddie but are still dragging their feet over returning to Portugal for a reconstruction of the fateful night when they left Maddie and her twin siblings home alone.
mpu
Sources close to them say they have "serious reservations".
Why? What serious reservations?
Their spokesman, Clarence Mitchell, asks: "What is the value?"
So now this ex-BBC reporter, Government spin doctor and PR man is suddenly Columbo or Morse, is he?
I’m sorry, but let’s remember they are still prime suspects and if the Portuguese plods want them in Portugal they should be there — reservations or not.

Perhaps our friend Jim Gamble should tell us his thoughts...


Former Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (CEOP) boss Jim Gamble said Savile’s attitude was similar to other sex offenders in the way he “minimised” and “self-justified” Glitter’s abuse of young children.

Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/northern-ireland/paedophile-hunter-says-jimmy-savilersquos-support-for-gary-glitter-points-to-his-guilt-16221647.html#ixzz2BDxEldz8

Yes Jim, that's a very interesting point to make about other sex offenders minimization and self justification...
now talking of someone that minimises and self-justifies on a regular basis...

What exactly did Gerry Mccann's missing CATS File 19309 say!
http://goodqualitywristbands.blogspot.com/2012/01/did-jim-gamble-sanitize-gerry-mccanns.html

anyhows, after the Maddie went missing kate says (as told by the mirror)

The couple hope that Mrs McCann's book, entitled simply Madeleine, will revive public support and boost their dwindling fund for private detectives to search for their daughter.

It was already a best-seller based on advance sales, having topped Amazon.co.uk's book chart for several days.

The 384-page book, which is dedicated to the McCanns' three children, Madeleine and six-year-old twins Sean and Amelie, includes intriguing insights into the couple's surreal existence in Portugal in the summer of 2007.

Mrs McCann discloses that Cherie Blair phoned her five days after Madeleine's disappearance and warned her: "Whatever happens, your life will never be the same again."

She also recounts the occasion in July 2007 when the late broadcaster Sir Clement Freud, who had a house in Praia da Luz, invited the McCanns around for lunch and broke the ice by offering them a strawberry vodka.

A further link to this here --> http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2011/05/13/madeleine-by-kate-mccann-extracts-and-comment-on-chapters-12-to-15-and-pp-62-72-129-and-283-4/ in the online review of the pages of her book.

And..... Clarence Mitchell used to work at Freud Communications which was founded by Matthew Freud, son of Clement and husband of Elisabeth Murdoch, daughter of Rupert. Furthermore... Sir Clement Freud is reportedly one of the MP's about to be outted to the media for child abuse with "over 150 complaints of gross indecency against him, Each one was an individual so they were unable to take it any further"

Sir Clement Freud was also the Grandson of the famous Sigmund Freud, the man who instigated whole schools of thought obsessed by sexual behaviour and we all know his weird perspective on life.

Clement's brother Lucien also had a 'relationship' with the Kray Twins http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/books/article-2155989/Weve-just-murdered-dad--cheer-heres-puppy-BRINGING-DOWN-THE-KRAYS-BY-BOBBY-TEALE.html#ixzz1xBaMJwWJ

This is all never ending is it.... .... ..... ...... ....







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Post  tigger on Sun 4 Nov - 6:17

Great work ldl!

Gordon Burn sounds an interesting man.

I'm not impressed by GMcC's qualifications, so very recent too, considering he could have been a registrar as young as 26/27.

MB ChB is an undergraduate degree in medicine, it translates as a Bachelor of Medicine and Chemistry. To become a medical doctor in the UK you need to study this qualification.

MRCP is Membership of the Royal College of Physicians, a postgraduate medical diploma run by the Federation of the Medical Royal Colleges of the United Kingdom.

In the UK, Ireland and many Commonwealth countries, the M.D. is a postgraduate research degree in medicine. At some universities, this takes the form of a first doctorate, analogous to the Ph.D., awarded upon submission of a thesis and a successful viva. The thesis may consist of new research undertaken on a full- or part-time basis, with much less supervision (in the UK) than for a Ph.D., or a portfolio of previously published work.

Quite a lot of diplomas, MD imo is more like a masters - MPhil. I expect GM used his work on sports medicine (of which I've seen an example and believe me, it's thin) as a thesis, if a portfolio of previously published work will suffice no research is necessary.





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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sun 4 Nov - 9:20

Thanks for all your efforts Loopdaloop. I shall start reading the links soon.

I read a book quite recently by Richard McCann, the son of the first known Yorkshire Ripper victim. It was hard not to smile at the name of his father Gerry and how his mother used to leave him and his three sisters alone while she was out "on business".

The name McCann is so common in Scotland from where the family originated that I'm sure this is a genuine coincidence!


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Post  dazedandconfused on Sun 4 Nov - 9:54

Thanks for all your research Loopdaloop.

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Post  cherry1 on Sun 4 Nov - 17:50

Dont know if already mentioned, cant remember where I read it, may have been Jill's something about a certain person in a certain law firm who had 2 paedos as his facebook friends, I think it was one of those paedos linked to Jimmy Saville on his facebook page.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sun 4 Nov - 17:57

I don't think there can be a problem with mentioning that the lawyer is Edward Smethurst, the in-house lawyer of Brian Kennedy, the windows man and McCann backer.

I don't know anything though about a link between the people on his and Jimmy Savile's Facebook accounts.

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Post  cherry1 on Sun 4 Nov - 18:05

Ive been reading a lot of different forums lately including digital spy, and david icke, so would I think been on there or Jills site.

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sun 4 Nov - 18:08

He certainly has been mentioned on the JH site in the past but, for legal reasons, a lot of the stuff had to be removed.

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Post  cherry1 on Sun 4 Nov - 18:11

This is the link

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t5770-the-smethurst-files#129618

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