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McMINUTES VIDEO: DID Jane Tanner see the 'abductor' or did she use the BACK pathway? (NEW!)

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Post  HiDeHo Thu 29 Nov - 3:00

Gonçalo Amaral claims the McCanns and their friends used the BACK pathway and NOT the road and therefore Jane Tanner's statement sounds 'hollow'!


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Post  kitti Thu 29 Nov - 7:46

I don't understand ...the 'back pathway'.....wouldn't you walk out the front off the ocean club and walk UP towards the stairs to the patio doors and up to the road and Left into the car park....or...turn left after you leave the ocean club into the road BEFORE you reach the patio doors..



Didn't mr amaral state that tanner could off, on her way back from her apt, came that way and when turning right to go down back to the ocean club , looked back and saw Gerry McCann and Wilkins talking?
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Post  Christine Thu 29 Nov - 8:03

kitti wrote:I don't understand ...the 'back pathway'.....wouldn't you walk out the front off the ocean club and walk UP towards the stairs to the patio doors and up to the road and Left into the car park....or...turn left after you leave the ocean club into the road BEFORE you reach the patio doors..



Didn't mr amaral state that tanner could off, on her way back from her apt, came that way and when turning right to go down back to the ocean club , looked back and saw Gerry McCann and Wilkins talking?

I am confused about that too Kitti. Using the back pathway means there had to be a gate from the swimming pool aerea to the back path. I always understood they had to enter and leave via the reception aerea, and in that case they had to turn left and walk up the road to the stairs of 5A or to the car park. Tanner claims she crossed the road. That means coming from the reception aerea, go left, cross the road and cross it again into the pathway or to the car park. That on itself doesn't make sense, and less even if she took the pathway because that is only 50 or 60 meters.
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Post  Wintabells Thu 29 Nov - 8:43

As far as I understand it, there was a pathway that ran along the back entrances to the apartments and each apartment had a sort of back garden and a gate, apart from 5a which, because it was on the corner, had steps leading down from the patio door down to the road that led down to the Tapas restaurant and Reception.

Also, that pathway seems to go round to the car park at the opposite end to 5a. (I think GMcC said Madeleine ran off along it on one occasion, for a lark). The Portuguese search dogs kept going along that path (towards the carpark) too.

So, it is possible, I think, that JT could have left the Tapas restaurant, gone out onto the street via Reception, turned left, up towards 5a, then left along the path and in through the back gate of her apartment.

Wilkins stated (this can be seen on HiDeHo's video) that he doubted anyone could have walked past himself and GMcC talking, because the path was narrow and he'd have noticed if someone walked past them. This suggests to me a) he was on that path or very near it when he was chatting to GMcC and b) that he thought JT was claiming to have walked past them on that back pathway.

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Post  Bobsy Thu 29 Nov - 9:20

Wintabells wrote:As far as I understand it, there was a pathway that ran along the back entrances to the apartments and each apartment had a sort of back garden and a gate, apart from 5a which, because it was on the corner, had steps leading down from the patio door down to the road that led down to the Tapas restaurant and Reception.

Also, that pathway seems to go round to the car park at the opposite end to 5a. (I think GMcC said Madeleine ran off along it on one occasion, for a lark). The Portuguese search dogs kept going along that path (towards the carpark) too.

So, it is possible, I think, that JT could have left the Tapas restaurant, gone out onto the street via Reception, turned left, up towards 5a, then left along the path and in through the back gate of her apartment.

Wilkins stated (this can be seen on HiDeHo's video) that he doubted anyone could have walked past himself and GMcC talking, because the path was narrow and he'd have noticed if someone walked past them. This suggests to me a) he was on that path or very near it when he was chatting to GMcC and b) that he thought JT was claiming to have walked past them on that back pathway.


Hi Wintabellls, only the ground floor apartments had the gardens with the gate to the alley way.
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Post  Wintabells Thu 29 Nov - 9:40

Hi Bobsy and thanks. I was under the impression that the Oldfields's and the O'B's were on the ground floor and the Payne's on the 1st. I could well be wrong though.
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Post  Bobsy Thu 29 Nov - 9:44

Wintabells wrote:Hi Bobsy and thanks. I was under the impression that the Oldfields's and the O'B's were on the ground floor and the Payne's on the 1st. I could well be wrong though.

Wintabells, sorry have no idea, there was a photograph with the apartment numbers and names was just pointing out that it was only the ground floor apartments. You could well be correct McMINUTES VIDEO: DID Jane Tanner see the 'abductor' or did she use the BACK pathway? (NEW!) Icon_flower
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Post  Wintabells Thu 29 Nov - 9:45

Ok, here's the PJ report confirming what's what...


Upon check-in, they were placed into several apartments, all located in block G5, next to each other, which was an imposition, or at least a suggestion, made by the entire group.

They were all lodged in the ground floor, except the PAYNE family (David, Fiona and Diane Webster), which was lodged in the first floor.

http://truthformadeleine.com/2012/01/pj-report-translation/

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I'd never seen this photo before - it really helps to get a clearer idea of where the apartments were in relation to the pool area and the tennis courts (which I'd never been able to picture in my mind before). It's also possible to see the pathway between the back of the apartments and the swimming pool and how it feeds round to the carpark at the front. I still can't figure out where the creche was (Lobsters).

I can see that if they were willing to risk leaving their back door open it would have been quicker for JT and RO'B to access their apartment from the back (ditto the Oldfields) for 'checking' purposes....
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Ok, this is what I wanted. Thankyou mccannfiles.
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The route GNR sniffer dogs tracked Madeleine's scent on 08 May 2007

Interesting that GMcC felt the need to describe Madeleine running along this route (need to find link) and that the dogs appear to have followed part of the route GMcC wants us to believe he took when he spotted JW and had his chat.
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Post  Bobsy Thu 29 Nov - 10:40

Wintabells you are a star McMINUTES VIDEO: DID Jane Tanner see the 'abductor' or did she use the BACK pathway? (NEW!) 83453 The very last photograph of the route the GNR dogs took puzzle me as I would have thought they would have gone along the bit of road from the gate of 5A, to close the rectangle up as it were. And no track to the pool area or the tapas area where she had high tea every day, how very odd.
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Post  Wintabells Thu 29 Nov - 11:06

It's very interesting isn't it, Bobs?? McMINUTES VIDEO: DID Jane Tanner see the 'abductor' or did she use the BACK pathway? (NEW!) 25346
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Wintabells wrote:It's very interesting isn't it, Bobs?? McMINUTES VIDEO: DID Jane Tanner see the 'abductor' or did she use the BACK pathway? (NEW!) 25346

yes indeed it is. it would appear from this that Madeleine spent her time in PdL in that small rectangle. Now how did she get to the beach visits, the tennis court, for her high tea every day, the playground and ofcourse that 'last photograph' by the swimming pool. Float?
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Post  kitti Thu 29 Nov - 11:21

There is a picture off the Mccanns walking UP the road with the journos taking pictures ....can someone find it please?



In between the ocean club and the apts.
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