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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  Karen on Sun 25 Nov - 10:37

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interested wrote:The Daily Mail accepted my comment, "I think this old chestnut is being recycled because this seems to be 'blame the dead pervert' season in the U.K." Not many green arrows but at least it was printed.

Right! I've green arrowed your comment! Come on everyone! A few green arrows wanted!

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Found it!! green arrows = 10

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  Panda on Sun 25 Nov - 11:40

Just updating on the comments and note that the rest of the herd instinct Press have joined in the attempt to nail Hewlett.

As I have said before , there is an underlying reason for all this which we don't lnow about. After months of a McCann free Press twice in 3 days Madeleine and Kate McCann are in the limelight.

The SY review has been going on for 18 months.......don't the McCanns and the Press realise that by now ALL THE PJ FILES would have been read , including the Hewlett File???? If Kate was kept informed by SY as she says , and the Hewlett case was being investigated she would have been told, a long time ago.

My friends lost interest in the Madeleine case a long time ago and I suspect the rest of the public has as well so I don't expect big sales . The only reason for the regurgitation is to do with the Amaral case.

This is the 3rd time this morning I have heard the McCanns name mentioned in Studio debates about the upcoming Leveson Report.!!!

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  comperedna on Sun 25 Nov - 12:51

The McCanns have entered the realm not of myth but of received and accepted wisdom. Yes they were treated unfairly by the UK press uncritically re-printing mere allegations straight from the Portuguese tabloids, but that doesn't mean they should be treated like plaster saints, with kid gloves on, and never asked the appropriate questions or required to assist in more accurate time lines etc ... I feel it is all too late now and they and their friends are never to be questioned by anyone remotely investigative. I doubt we shall ever know what happened to Madeleine.

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  Panda on Sun 25 Nov - 14:11

comperedna wrote:The McCanns have entered the realm not of myth but of received and accepted wisdom. Yes they were treated unfairly by the UK press uncritically re-printing mere allegations straight from the Portuguese tabloids, but that doesn't mean they should be treated like plaster saints, with kid gloves on, and never asked the appropriate questions or required to assist in more accurate time lines etc ... I feel it is all too late now and they and their friends are never to be questioned by anyone remotely investigative. I doubt we shall ever know what happened to Madeleine.

Sadly, I have to agree with you comperedna and if the McCanns had any respect for their daughter they would stop all this nonsense and trying to engage the public. It is only the blogs and forums keeping an interest in Madeleine alive. Now we have the spectacle of a Trial in Portugal, the publication of Kate's third Book due in May , but in between I am sure they will close the Fund.

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Madeleine McCann News: Police 'Re-Examine Claims Of Late Paedophile Raymond Hewlett'

Post  Annabel on Tue 27 Nov - 8:52

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/11/26/madeleine-mccann-news-late-paedophile-raymond-hewlett_n_2190562.html?

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  margaret on Tue 27 Nov - 9:23

There was a very good sighting that night of a man running through the streets of PDL with a child who has never been traced. Why don't the press don't make an issue of trying to trace that man?

Oh yes, l remember now, Mr.Smith says that man was Gerry McCann - best keep that quiet, eh?


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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  Panda on Tue 27 Nov - 9:31

margaret wrote:There was a very good sighting that night of a man running through the streets of PDL with a child who has never been traced. Why don't the press don't make an issue of trying to trace that man?

Oh yes, l remember now, Mr.Smith says that man was Gerry McCann - best keep that quiet, eh?


Morning margarert, there is also no mention of Parents taking their children from the creche by 10pm and this man carrying a child could have been taking his back to an Apartment. Wasn't the first statement made on 6th May???

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  kitti on Tue 27 Nov - 14:17

The Mccanns need to update their picture then if they think it was him......from a 30-40 year old to a 60-70 year old......not bad going for a pensioner to get out off an apt with creeky legs and arthritis

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  Panda on Tue 27 Nov - 14:29

kitti wrote:The Mccanns need to update their picture then if they think it was him......from a 30-40 year old to a 60-70 year old......not bad going for a pensioner to get out off an apt with creeky legs and arthritis

kitti, I just don't know how they get away with all this bull***t, if we can see it why can't they???

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  malena stool on Tue 27 Nov - 22:13

Panda wrote:
comperedna wrote:The McCanns have entered the realm not of myth but of received and accepted wisdom. Yes they were treated unfairly by the UK press uncritically re-printing mere allegations straight from the Portuguese tabloids, but that doesn't mean they should be treated like plaster saints, with kid gloves on, and never asked the appropriate questions or required to assist in more accurate time lines etc ... I feel it is all too late now and they and their friends are never to be questioned by anyone remotely investigative. I doubt we shall ever know what happened to Madeleine.

Sadly, I have to agree with you comperedna and if the McCanns had any respect for their daughter they would stop all this nonsense and trying to engage the public. It is only the blogs and forums keeping an interest in Madeleine alive. Now we have the spectacle of a Trial in Portugal, the publication of Kate's third Book due in May , but in between I am sure they will close the Fund.

I'm sorry Panda I must disagree with you here, they do respect Madeleine... They've registered her as a trademark, Kate has written story books about her, (including her private parts) and travelled the world drumming up funds to sue the man who led the search for her.... What greater love and respect for their children could be displayed by any parents??? Looking after their children instead of drinking freebie plonk with their p1sshead pals sounds about right...

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  comperedna on Wed 28 Nov - 12:31

Leveson report comes out tomorrow. I've got PMQs on now with the PM discussing a responsible press regulatory system, whilst parroting the 'lets see what the report says first'. Instead of the by now common 'justice for the DowlersandtheMcCanns' one back bencher put it: 'justice for the McCanns' ... and as an afterthought... 'and also for the Dowlers'... I guess I may as well go home and stay home... History is written by the victors and the fragrant couple have their version of it etched in stone by now...

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  cass on Wed 28 Nov - 12:54

makes you puke doesnt it clarry spouting they had not been hacked --and now they take centre stage in all this leverson thing --they can spout their shit till the cows come home -- they can do the fake tears the me me me interviews -- they are known as the mummy n daddy that didnt give a shit that their daughter cried for over a hour the night before she went missing -- they still left her -- someone that didnt have as much clout would be ripped apart for it by the media -- but not lord and lady muck -- they say its what people do -- no they dont --only selfish pigs like the mcanns and tapas would do that night after night -- it was their holiday you know --- they have worked hard to keep themselfs out of jail -- resect and peace of mind -- no money from the fund can pay for that

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  Panda on Wed 28 Nov - 17:04

I'm not so sure they will take centre stage , they never got hacked and received a handsome settlement from the Daily Express. As i read it, the Leveson Enquiry was instigated by Cameron because of the 100's of people who had been hacked , Hugh Grant deliberately declined to accept any money for damages so that he could fight the Press. I suspect Cameron was asked to include the McCanns.

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  comperedna on Wed 28 Nov - 18:38

Who do you think asked him, Panda? Surely not CM. He would have no clout with him. Don't go with ginger Rebekah either.

I've told you, despite his having worked as PR for a TV firm, I believe cameron to be an honest man. Right now he may be between a rock and a hard place. He is fierce where children, particulay disabled children, are concerned. He has also been treated to in depth, well informed comment on the suspicions various professionals concerned with the welfare of children have about the Mccann case.

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  Panda on Wed 28 Nov - 19:28

Well comperedna, I have said many times that Cameron is reactive, not proactiive and I don't think he would have ordered a review if Rebekah Brooks had not made him appear churlish if he refused. Theresa May was only going to do a scope, but the Home Office suddenly found they could spare £3 million ....which , unless the SY have found something , will prove a waste of money.

As for how Kate McCann ( notice how she walked along with Mr Dowler,whose family suffered the most) was invited , I think CM is quite capable of arranging this. I don't think there were very many invited, mostly" The Hacked Off " Members and I don't think there were many Celebrities there. Rumour has it that Cameron will not adopt all the Leveson Report suggestions because the Freedom of the Press brigade is out in force. I hope he has the guts to do what is right , otherwise this expensive review will have been another waste of money.

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Did He Steal Madeleine McCann?

Post  Annabel on Wed 28 Nov - 21:53

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/11/28/did-he-steal-madeleine-mccann.html



Did He Steal Madeleine McCann?

Barbie Latza Nadeau,
Nov 28, 2012 4:45 AM EST

Scotland Yard has new leads on the missing child—and many point to a pedophile with alleged ties to a gypsy trafficking ring. Barbie Latza Nadeau on the case’s sordid new character.

Did Portuguese police ignore countless tips that Madeleine McCann may have been nabbed by a registered child molester living in the Algarve region of Portugal in May 2007? Now the pedophile is dead, but the investigation is heating up.
Madeleine McCann

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Madeleine McCann who is reported missing during a family holiday in the Algarve region of Portugal. (Family Hanout / AP Photo)

More than half a dozen witnesses reported seeing a strange man prowling around the holiday estate in the Algarve the night four-year-old McCann disappeared from her family’s suite as her parents dined with friends at a nearby tapas bar. But it appears that the Portuguese police were too focused on Madeleine’s parents Kate and Gerry as primary suspects in their daughter’s disappearance to pay any attention to other potentially credible leads.

It wasn’t police, but the McCann’s own private investigators Dave Edgar and Arthur Cowley who were the first to make a connection between the man described by witnesses and Raymond Hewlett, a former British soldier and convicted child molester who lived about 30 miles from where young Madeleine disappeared. Hewlett died in 2010 at the age of 64 from throat cancer, but when McCann’s investigators approached him before his death, they saw Hewlett told them he believed “gypsies” had taken the young girl. Now, thanks to a comprehensive review of the Portuguese investigation by British detectives, Hewlett is finally being investigated—albeit posthumously.

In 2007 Hewlett, who served three separate sentences in the U.K. for molesting young girls dating back to the 1970s, was living under the radar at a Portuguese campsite with his wife and six children he claimed were his own. He befriended Britons Alan and Cindy Thompson, who were on a brief vacation in the Algarve in the summer of 2007. Hewlett told the Thompsons that wandering gypsies had offered him cash for one of his daughters, but that he had refused their offer. The Thompsons remained disturbed by the conversation after they returned to the U.K.—especially in light of Madeleine’s disappearance. They investigated Hewlett’s background and then contacted police in Portugal to relay what the strange man said. Their witness statement was recently discovered in Scotland Yard’s translation of the Portuguese criminal dossier.

Based on the lack of evidence to support the Thompsons’ claims, they were all but ignored by the Portuguese authorities. In fact, the couple felt so much that the police were unhelpful and unwilling to listen to their story that they took matters into their own hands, trying on multiple occasions to reach out to Hewlett directly to clarify what he had told them. Now, five and a half years later, the Thompsons say they have finally been summoned by Scotland Yard to answer further questions about what the convicted criminal told them.

There is also evidence in the Portuguese file that Hewlett told another man a similar story, claiming that gypsies were in the Algarve buying children “to order” for child traffickers in Morocco. Peter Verran told police that he met Hewlett on a Moroccan campsite during the summer of 2007, shortly after Madeleine disappeared, and the convicted pedophile told him that there was a booming business in blonde children. “He told me gypsies wanted to pay good money for his daughter,” Verran told The Mirror, a British newspaper. “And he’d met some who traded in children and sold them to pedophiles.” At the time, Verran says, he did not know of Hewlett’s murky past. And his claims, like those of the Thompsons, were never followed up on by police in charge of the investigation.

Madeleine McCann, Etan Patz & More Famous Cold Cases


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At least a dozen people reported “Madeleine spottings” in Morocco in 2007 and 2008, either to the Portuguese police or Scotland Yard, which had been running their own shadow investigation of the case, but like so many tips at the time, none of the sightings were ever investigated.

On his deathbed in 2010, Hewlett allegedly told his son in a “letter of confession” that he had seen the young McCann at least twice after May 2007, but that he had nothing to do with her disappearance, implying that he had seen her on a child-trafficking circuit and got “so close” he could see the now-famous birthmark on Madeleine’s right eye. There is scant information on Hewlett in the actual criminal file, but he had made similar claims to friends before his death, according to several accounts from British newspapers. Hewlett also reportedly told McCann’s investigators in the days before he died that he would only share the circumstances surrounding the sightings for a sizable cash payout. The McCanns refused to bow to the demands and Hewlett succumbed to his cancer before they could learn more about what he may or may not have known.

Hewlett allegedly implied that he had seen young Madeleine on a child-trafficking circuit.

The Portuguese police officially closed their case in July 2008. But last year, Scotland Yard detectives suggested that McCann might still be alive and living with her abductor They even produced a time-lapse photo of what she would look like now, at the age of 9.

Scotland Yard then opened its own investigation into the case in 2012, translating more than 100,000 pages of police records on the case and pinpointing nearly 200 leads the Portuguese cops missed that they plan to follow up on.

There is no evidence among the documents that Portuguese police ever questioned Hewlett about the young child’s disappearance, even though he was a known pedophile living near the scene of the young girl’s disappearance, and that he matched the description given by witnesses the night of the disappearance. Now it’s up to British detectives to find out what, if anything, he knew about what really happened to Madeleine McCann, or if the dead pedophile took those secrets to his grave.



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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  malena stool on Wed 28 Nov - 22:38

While the media is allowed to continue printing such unadulterated tish, those responsible for Madeleine's disappearance will never have to answer for their reprehensible parenting.

Gerry McCann is an insult both to his profession and his peers and Kate lowers the values and standards of all Child Protection Agencies by her involvement with them.

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  Panda on Thu 29 Nov - 6:31

Iv'e just e-mailed the Paper pointing out the glaring errors and trusting the Press will soon be unable to Print rubbish like this which is not substantiated. Hewlett's Partner and his children will probably get to know about this and since the man is dead he cannot defend himself.

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  T4two on Thu 29 Nov - 9:14

Panda wrote:Iv'e just e-mailed the Paper pointing out the glaring errors and trusting the Press will soon be unable to Print rubbish like this which is not substantiated. Hewlett's Partner and his children will probably get to know about this and since the man is dead he cannot defend himself.

That is the whole point of dragging his name into it again - he cannot defend himself, but at least you have done something

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  Panda on Thu 29 Nov - 9:36

T4two wrote:
Panda wrote:Iv'e just e-mailed the Paper pointing out the glaring errors and trusting the Press will soon be unable to Print rubbish like this which is not substantiated. Hewlett's Partner and his children will probably get to know about this and since the man is dead he cannot defend himself.

That is the whole point of dragging his name into it again - he cannot defend himself, but at least you have done something

Thanks T4two, I don't expect a reply but unless people do complain, nothing will change. Even now some MP's and Press are suggesting the Freedom of the Press is absolute, 300 years and all that. Cameron will no doubt water down Leveson's proposals.....I despair of Politicians.

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  fuzeta on Thu 29 Nov - 14:28

Panda wrote:
T4two wrote:
Panda wrote:Iv'e just e-mailed the Paper pointing out the glaring errors and trusting the Press will soon be unable to Print rubbish like this which is not substantiated. Hewlett's Partner and his children will probably get to know about this and since the man is dead he cannot defend himself.

That is the whole point of dragging his name into it again - he cannot defend himself, but at least you have done something

Thanks T4two, I don't expect a reply but unless people do complain, nothing will change. Even now some MP's and Press are suggesting the Freedom of the Press is absolute, 300 years and all that. Cameron will no doubt water down Leveson's proposals.....I despair of Politicians.

I think we have to be very careful about clamping down on the freedom of the press. Once on that road, where will it end?
The McCann case is a fine example of what happens when the press freedom is curtailed.
Once the press had started to print the facts and the truth about this pair, they were shut up and then had to pay up. Now they dare not say a nasty word about them, they can only write nice things or what is dictated to them.

Imagine that happening all the time. We would be the losers in this IMO

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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  Not Born Yesterday on Thu 29 Nov - 14:40

I think that curtailing the freedom of the Press is still going on now in that only dead paedophiles are being named.


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Re: Daily Mirror

Post  fuzeta on Thu 29 Nov - 14:58

Not Born Yesterday wrote:I think that curtailing the freedom of the Press is still going on now in that only dead paedophiles are being named.


I think you are absolutely right NBY. Make it law though and it will be even worse!

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