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Joining the dots? and interesting

Post  marxman on Fri 4 Jan - 16:26

Just stumbled upon this article by a Mike James
in Germany, i thought it was tought provoking
and very illuminating to say the least.
http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=1295

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Re: Joining the dots? and interesting

Post  cherry1 on Fri 4 Jan - 16:50

Who is going to put a stop to this sickness.

Are the authorities going to claim they knew nothing about it when it eventually
comes out, which sooner or later it will, are they going to say what they said in relation
to Savile and make out they didnt know it was going on, when it has been shown he was
reported to the authorities many times, how long are they going to continue letting
the paedo rings carry on abusing children and destroying so many lives.

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Post  SteveT on Fri 4 Jan - 16:52

Marxman,

Yes, seen it before. Very worrying if true, but there is definately something not right about Dunblane.

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Post  T4two on Fri 4 Jan - 17:29

Michael James, an English patriot, is a blacklisted and surveilled former freelance journalist resident in Zionist-occupied Germany since 1992 with additional long-haul stays in East Africa, Poland and Switzerland. He advocates a Leaderless Resistance to destroy the Soviet European Union and is actively working towards a free and independent England.

Hmmmm





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Post  almostgothic on Fri 4 Jan - 17:44

T4two wrote:
Michael James, an English patriot, is a blacklisted and surveilled former freelance journalist resident in Zionist-occupied Germany since 1992 with additional long-haul stays in East Africa, Poland and Switzerland. He advocates a Leaderless Resistance to destroy the Soviet European Union and is actively working towards a free and independent England.

Hmmmm
I second your Hmmmm

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Post  BelEddie on Fri 4 Jan - 18:34

marxman wrote:Just stumbled upon this article by a Mike James
in Germany, i thought it was tought provoking
and very illuminating to say the least.
http://forums.ukcolumn.org/showthread.php?tid=1295

All, I repeat All Politics is dirty. The higher up the chain the dirtier it gets.
The Global Elite, they who tell our so called leaders when and how to jump do so because they simply have the dirt on them.
No dirt, no control.

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Post  Lioned on Fri 4 Jan - 20:13

Seen all this before so many times and i would imagine some of it could be touching a few nerves but unfortunately its all too easy to label the authors of these articles as loons.And rather telling that most claim to be 'under surveillance' or persecuted in some other way.
Its very tempting to twist these things into a convenient conspiracy but some pause for thought is usually required.
If the secret service/Royal protection squad can bump off Diana i would have thought the Brown/Bliar police could easy wipe out a few internet loons spreading nasty gossip.

Of the 500 + trough snorters in Westminster i would have thought the vast majority would find sex crimes against children quite unacceptable hopefully Mrs Brown would as well.

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Re: Joining the dots? and interesting

Post  cherry1 on Fri 4 Jan - 21:17

I think these comments have been made before by various people.

I am not so sure the majority in government do find it so detestable, why do they allow people like Harman to sit in their midst, and other members of PIE/NCCL of which it has been mentioned GB was member also.

Who wants to have an MP who believes that an adult having sex with a child doesnt necessarily do the child harm, and thinks that having porno pictures of kids is not serious. How come the majority of MPs have not got together and say we dont want those sort of people in Parliament and anyone who was or is a member of any such bodies are not allowed to stand as MPs. MPs know that they are trying to get paedophilia normalised, and work towards making it legal, it is already going on in other countries and there are strong movements in this country. We have already seen the last Labour Government relaxing certain laws, bringing in the sex education - explicit - for very young children, making comments about sentences should not be so severe for a paedophile if it was shown the child knew what was going on etc., stuff that can only be described as soft porn being allowed on before the watershed when children viewing, inappropriate clothing for young children, etc. etc., The people elected in Parliament should be standing up against this kind of thing, not condoning it, being instigators of it, turning a blind eye to it, how seriously does that show what they think about abuse of children.

Some years ago I believe it was the Head of one of the Police Anti paedophile units who came out saying the unit had less men than say a burglary squad for example!

What action have we seen taken against judges who sympathise with paedophiles, who give ridiculous sentences, who blame the children for the abuse, I have seen no action striking off those judges, instead they are allowed to judge other cases.

There were rumours for years about Savile and those who knew him did nothing even those so called child protectors like Rantzen!! There have been rumours for years about certain labour politicians, conservative politicians and liberal politicians and nobody has done anything, every day children are being abused by these people while Scotland Yard do nothing, cos the secret services obviously dont want them nicked and put behind bars cos then they would have nothing to allegedly blackmail them with!

Normal decent people have to open their eyes to what is going on and to do something about it, campaign, raise awareness, that is the only glimmer of hope we have to try and protect the children in our society and hope that sooner rather than later these paedos are stopped from what they are doing and children can live in safety, be children, and protected by the adults they are supposed to be able to trust!

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Re: Joining the dots? and interesting

Post  BelEddie on Fri 4 Jan - 21:26

cherry1 wrote:I think these comments have been made before by various people.

I am not so sure the majority in government do find it so detestable, why do they allow people like Harman to sit in their midst, and other members of PIE/NCCL of which it has been mentioned GB was member also.

Who wants to have an MP who believes that an adult having sex with a child doesnt necessarily do the child harm, and thinks that having porno pictures of kids is not serious. How come the majority of MPs have not got together and say we dont want those sort of people in Parliament and anyone who was or is a member of any such bodies are not allowed to stand as MPs. MPs know that they are trying to get paedophilia normalised, and work towards making it legal, it is already going on in other countries and there are strong movements in this country. We have already seen the last Labour Government relaxing certain laws, bringing in the sex education - explicit - for very young children, making comments about sentences should not be so severe for a paedophile if it was shown the child knew what was going on etc., stuff that can only be described as soft porn being allowed on before the watershed when children viewing, inappropriate clothing for young children, etc. etc., The people elected in Parliament should be standing up against this kind of thing, not condoning it, being instigators of it, turning a blind eye to it, how seriously does that show what they think about abuse of children.

Some years ago I believe it was the Head of one of the Police Anti paedophile units who came out saying the unit had less men than say a burglary squad for example!

What action have we seen taken against judges who sympathise with paedophiles, who give ridiculous sentences, who blame the children for the abuse, I have seen no action striking off those judges, instead they are allowed to judge other cases.

There were rumours for years about Savile and those who knew him did nothing even those so called child protectors like Rantzen!! There have been rumours for years about certain labour politicians, conservative politicians and liberal politicians and nobody has done anything, every day children are being abused by these people while Scotland Yard do nothing, cos the secret services obviously dont want them nicked and put behind bars cos then they would have nothing to allegedly blackmail them with!

Normal decent people have to open their eyes to what is going on and to do something about it, campaign, raise awareness, that is the only glimmer of hope we have to try and protect the children in our society and hope that sooner rather than later these paedos are stopped from what they are doing and children can live in safety, be children, and protected by the adults they are supposed to be able to trust!

Well written!

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Re: Joining the dots? and interesting

Post  Lioned on Fri 4 Jan - 22:15

I do not doubt for one minute there are peadophile rings involving 'high ranking' individuals and that others are complicit in turning a blind eye for whatever reason.
Just think we need to get things into perspective.
Just looking at statistics and the law of averages there are about 30000 people on the sex offenders register in the UK,there will off course be many who are not on that list and i have seen figures of around 100000 convicted peados in prison (not quite sure how you reconcile those figures but we'll have a go)
If you take the adult (male) population of the UK as about 25 million then in very crude terms there may be about 1 peado for every 250 men in this country.
So taking the house of commons (650) and the house of Lords (818) then there may be about 6 peados in there somewhere !

Thats my effort at the maths anyway !

In amongst all this you got to remember that a Prime Minister and other high up politicians are likely to have as many enemies as friends of which some will be pretty good at skulduggery and grinding the rumour mill.

Also without a doubt i suspect that most in Parliament would have a tendency to wish such a scandal hushed up,but i have to say that if half of what we read on the net was true then at least some of it would have been 'outed' by now.
I would have definite doubts about Heath.And as much as i have an insatiable desire to see Brown sitting in his nappy with electrodes wired to his testicles i am finding it difficult to work out how he could still be an active peado without some decent person knowing about it !

So there you have it,if you know 250 men then one of them is probably a peado.



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Post  fuzeta on Fri 4 Jan - 22:49

Cherry1 That was a very good post and I agree with all of it. I have to say though that we are all to blame for the way our children are growing up. The way parents let their kids go out looking like little women or little men. People seem to feel proud that their little girls show an interest in looking glamorous. All kids like to dress up and put on Mom's things I know that but this is different. The shops like to sell all these things for children but it is up to us if we buy them or not.

My hairdresser who is glamorous and has a two year old grandaughter said to me before Christmas that she was undecided what to buy her. She could not decide if to buy a vanity unit with mirror lights and little pots of make up or a child's battery operated guitar which she had enjoyed playing at someone else's house. I just said to her "for God's sake the guitar, she might take to it and learn something instead of believing she should start looking like a painted doll"
I would bet she bought the vanity unit!

I bought my son a guitar to play with when he was very small and he progressed and still plays one today He is very good and has a family of his own now. He writes songs and entertains us all.

We all must take some responsibility for this grooming of children these days. The dangers are clearly there but society seems to be ignoring them.

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