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Post  Karen on Fri 18 Jan - 20:34

Google translation........

McCann judgment that opposes the Gonšalo Amaral suspended



The trial that pits the McCanns Gonšalo Amaral, in which Madeleine's parents claim compensation of Ç 1.2 million for allegedly defaming the former PJ inspector, is suspended in an attempt to settlement. judicial source told Agence Lusa that the beginning of the trial, scheduled for 24 and 25 of this month, at 1. Civil Court of Lisbon, "was suspended because the parties are seeking an agreement." The order of the court to defer the suspension was signed at the end of Last week, for what now follows a period of six months, after which, in the absence of agreement between Gonšalo Amaral and the parents of missing child in 2007, in the Algarve, the hearing will be scheduled. beginning of the trial of this case was postponed twice , the first of which the February 9, 2012. Judge later marked the beginning of the trial in the Palais de Justice for September 13 of that year, with three more scheduled sessions, but did not take place either due to unavailability of attorney Gonšalo Amaral, who underwent an examination under anesthesia to the stomach. this action that prompted the request for seizure of goods Gonšalo Amaral as a precautionary measure, Kate and Gerry McCann still complain protection of rights, freedoms and guarantees. related case In, 7 . th Civil Court of Lisbon decided in January 2010 to maintain a ban on the book 'Maddie - The Truth of the Lie' written by Goncalo Amaral, and video with the same title, based on a documentary broadcast TVI. Prohibition of the book and the video, which features Gonšalo Amaral's thesis involvement of Kate and Gerry McCann in the disappearance of her daughter with the concealment of the corpse had been provisionally enacted September 9, 2009. On 19 October 2010, the Lisbon Court of Appeal annulled the decision of 7. Civil Court, after which the McCanns appealed to the Supreme Court of Justice (STJ). On judgment of March 18, 2011, the Supreme Court upheld the decision of relationship. Madeleine McCann disappeared on May 3, 2007, in an apartment in a holiday village of Praia da Luz, where she was vacationing with her ​​parents and two twin brothers. At the time of the disappearance, Goncalo Amaral was coordinator of the Research Department Criminal Judiciary Police of PortimŃo. Kate and Gerry McCann, who have always claimed that the child was abducted, were made ​​defendants in September 2007. The case was closed for lack of evidence, in July 2008, although prosecutors admit reopening arise if new data about the disappearance of Madeleine.

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Re: McCann judgment that opposes the Gonšalo Amaral SUSPENDED

Post  jd16 on Fri 18 Jan - 20:41

From the google translation of the articles its says " The order of the court to defer the suspension was signed at the end of last week, for what now follows a period of six months, after which, in the absence of agreement between Gonšalo Amaral and the parents of missing child in 2007, in the Algarve, the hearing will be scheduled"

So according to this translation the suspension was signed at the end of last week with nothing happening for 6 months (?), then Monday morning just after they knew the GA court case is suspended they then filed the No Stone Unturned annual accounts. Interesting. I knew there was a reason for them delaying filing the accounts...especially as they were all signed on December 21st 2012

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Post  kitti on Fri 18 Jan - 21:02

How many times can you postpone a trial?


Another ploy by the Mccanns to drag it out in the hope mr amaral either goers bankrupt or jumps off the lisbon estuary ...


Sneaky pair off b.....ds.

'we won't sue you if you don't utter another word about us being involved in madeleines demise and oh....we want to know what YOU know what's in the withheld files and by the way...sign on the dotted line re the gagging order'.

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Post  margaret on Fri 18 Jan - 22:46

kitti wrote:How many times can you postpone a trial?


Another ploy by the Mccanns to drag it out in the hope mr amaral either goers bankrupt or jumps off the lisbon estuary ...


Sneaky pair off b.....ds.

'we won't sue you if you don't utter another word about us being involved in madeleines demise and oh....we want to know what YOU know what's in the withheld files and by the way...sign on the dotted line re the gagging order'.

I don't think the mcs are in the driving seat with this, far from it. Amaral has them by the goolies.

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Post  cass on Fri 18 Jan - 22:54

margaret wrote:
kitti wrote:How many times can you postpone a trial?


Another ploy by the Mccanns to drag it out in the hope mr amaral either goers bankrupt or jumps off the lisbon estuary ...


Sneaky pair off b.....ds.

'we won't sue you if you don't utter another word about us being involved in madeleines demise and oh....we want to know what YOU know what's in the withheld files and by the way...sign on the dotted line re the gagging order'.

I don't think the mcs are in the driving seat with this, far from it. Amaral has them by the goolies.
margeret i hope you are right --im also hoping that the mcanns are running scared too -- but i darnt hope --we have been here so many times

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Post  margaret on Fri 18 Jan - 22:57

cass wrote:
margaret wrote:
kitti wrote:How many times can you postpone a trial?


Another ploy by the Mccanns to drag it out in the hope mr amaral either goers bankrupt or jumps off the lisbon estuary ...


Sneaky pair off b.....ds.

'we won't sue you if you don't utter another word about us being involved in madeleines demise and oh....we want to know what YOU know what's in the withheld files and by the way...sign on the dotted line re the gagging order'.

I don't think the mcs are in the driving seat with this, far from it. Amaral has them by the goolies.
margeret i hope you are right --im also hoping that the mcanns are running scared too -- but i darnt hope --we have been here so many times

For nearly 6 years they've despised mr.amaral why would they back down if they thought they could win?

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Post  Guest on Fri 18 Jan - 23:31

It seems to confirm what Blacksmith was saying earlier.

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Post  T4two on Fri 18 Jan - 23:48

kitti wrote:How many times can you postpone a trial?


Another ploy by the Mccanns to drag it out in the hope mr amaral either goers bankrupt or jumps off the lisbon estuary ...


Sneaky pair off b.....ds.

'we won't sue you if you don't utter another word about us being involved in madeleines demise and oh....we want to know what YOU know what's in the withheld files and by the way...sign on the dotted line re the gagging order'.

Agree about the ploy. IMO they do not have the slightest intention of seeking a settlement; just want to delay everything for another six months. Perhaps they don't want anything embarrassing coming out which might have a detremental influence on their case against TB.

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Re: McCann judgment that opposes the Gonšalo Amaral SUSPENDED

Post  fred on Sat 19 Jan - 8:07

This is the link to the Portuguese paper where it was reported.
http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/503/sociedade/julgamento-maddie-goncalo-amaral-mccann--algarve-desaparecimento/1411299-4071.html

It is saying they will try and settle and have 6 months to do so.

No doubt it will be spun in the British press that Amaral has backed down etc.

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Post  jd16 on Sat 19 Jan - 8:10

fred wrote:This is the link to the Portuguese paper where it was reported.
http://www.tvi24.iol.pt/503/sociedade/julgamento-maddie-goncalo-amaral-mccann--algarve-desaparecimento/1411299-4071.html

It is saying they will try and settle and have 6 months to do so.

No doubt it will be spun in the British press that Amaral has backed down etc.

Of course

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Post  fred on Sat 19 Jan - 10:27

It is reported that his new lawyer is very decisive and quite the 'hotshot', perhaps that is why the McCanns are trying to settle. i hope more than anything Amaral doesn't back down now (I don't think he will)

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Post  cass on Sat 19 Jan - 10:40

the seeking a agreement -- what that supposed to mean -- ga will walk away and the mcanns will have the public believe in their fairy storys ? -- whats there to agree -- the mcanns are guilty end off -- or that is the thought of ga is it not

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Post  Carolina on Sat 19 Jan - 10:58

The McCanns asked for the suspension of the trial and want to negotiate which obviously means that they are not in a position of power anymore. Gonšalo holds all the cards and if the couple want to negotiate they will have to do it on his terms.

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Post  cass on Sat 19 Jan - 11:04

Carolina wrote:The McCanns asked for the suspension of the trial and want to negotiate which obviously means that they are not in a position of power anymore. Gonšalo holds all the cards and if the couple want to negotiate they will have to do it on his terms.
carolina -- hope you are right -- i have also wondered if the tapas crew have said to the mcanns enough is enough -- because where can this all end ?

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Post  fred on Sat 19 Jan - 11:29

cass wrote:
Carolina wrote:The McCanns asked for the suspension of the trial and want to negotiate which obviously means that they are not in a position of power anymore. Gonšalo holds all the cards and if the couple want to negotiate they will have to do it on his terms.
carolina -- hope you are right -- i have also wondered if the tapas crew have said to the mcanns enough is enough -- because where can this all end ?

I think the tapas mob are in it for life!

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Post  Palmeras16 on Sat 19 Jan - 11:43

Carolina wrote:The McCanns asked for the suspension of the trial and want to negotiate which obviously means that they are not in a position of power anymore. Gonšalo holds all the cards and if the couple want to negotiate they will have to do it on his terms.

I wonder whether 'his terms' will include a large donation to the Find Madeleine Fund?

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Post  Carolina on Sat 19 Jan - 12:04

Palmeras16 wrote:
Carolina wrote:The McCanns asked for the suspension of the trial and want to negotiate which obviously means that they are not in a position of power anymore. Gonšalo holds all the cards and if the couple want to negotiate they will have to do it on his terms.

I wonder whether 'his terms' will include a large donation to the Find Madeleine Fund?

You can be sure that Gonšalo would never agree to give the McCanns the time of day much less a centime. If he was able to stand up to them all this time he would certainly never give in now and he has certainly not.

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Post  Annabel on Sat 19 Jan - 12:46

http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2013/01/trial-that-opposes-mccanns-and-goncalo.html

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Post  Guest on Sat 19 Jan - 12:51

He hasn't got any money. He couldn't give them a centime even if he wanted to. And besides, don't the McCanns still owe HIM money, for the storage of the the books?

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Post  marxman on Sat 19 Jan - 13:36

It must be remembered that it was the Mccanns
that had instigated legal action for libel against
GA. Therefore, as plaintiffs they would have had
to show that GA's comments constituted an intent
to spread false testimony, based on inaccurate and
malicious information extracted from a bogus and
erronious investigation. This I believe, was an uphill
and unrealistic attempt to pin all their claims for
libel upon the shoulders of one man, and not the PJ
as the investigating authority.Therefore, it maybe
the case, that since GA didn't buckle under the vast
pressures directed solely at him as an individual, they
maybe considering directing their wrath towards the
PJ, with which they may find GA in agreement.
Of course this maybe not the case, but it maybe worth
thinking about as route that suspends the court case
and with both sides saving face.

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Post  tanszi on Sat 19 Jan - 14:00

Marxman thats an interesting point of view, is there a solid basis for the McCs to sue the PJ, and what would that be? Is it possible to sue a police force for conclusions that you dont agree with? Afterall these conclcusions were I understand what led to the libel case being over ruled? How feasible is it that they would change direction from trying to sue one man, to suing the whole Portuguese Judicial system?

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Post  marxman on Sat 19 Jan - 14:34

tanszi wrote:Marxman thats an interesting point of view, is there a solid basis for the McCs to sue the PJ, and what would that be? Is it possible to sue a police force for conclusions that you dont agree with? Afterall these conclcusions were I understand what led to the libel case being over ruled? How feasible is it that they would change direction from trying to sue one man, to suing the whole Portuguese Judicial system?

Hi tanszi, Im toying around in my mind with
ideas or explanations for why the mccanns
would withdraw from the brink when they were
so determined and steadfast in their legal
attempt to silence and ruin GA. If getting GA
was plan A, then they must have had a plan B.
Therefore, as it was reported, that the mccann's
Portuguese lawyers adviced them that plan A
could not be realised in court, then plan B may
be all but a smokescreen, blaming the PJ and
threatening legal action towards them, which
I would imagine would be more problematic
because they havn't been convicted of anything.
they were only made suspects.
It is all very odd.

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Post  Palmeras16 on Sat 19 Jan - 14:49

Iris wrote:He hasn't got any money. He couldn't give them a centime even if he wanted to. And besides, don't the McCanns still owe HIM money, for the storage of the the books?

When Mr Amaral reaches an agreement with the McCann regarding the amount of compensation due, it will be taken from the seized earnings he made from the sale of the book and the documentary.

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Post  Guest on Sat 19 Jan - 14:52

Palmeras16 wrote:
Iris wrote:He hasn't got any money. He couldn't give them a centime even if he wanted to. And besides, don't the McCanns still owe HIM money, for the storage of the the books?

When Mr Amaral reaches an agreement with the McCann regarding the amount of compensation due, it will be taken from the seized earnings he made from the sale of the book and the documentary.
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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sat 19 Jan - 15:16

It would be the stuff of my nightmares - definitely not my dreams - if anyone ever decided that the McCanns should be awarded even more compensation!

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