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Post  matthew on Fri 25 Jan - 18:09

They Really Don't

The poor boobies in the McCann camp think this is some temporary blip that they'll weather if they keep their heads down. They can't get to grips with what's going on. So let's spell out why the libel trial suspension is no ordinary news item.

Since 2008 and the publication of Goncalo Amaral's book the strategy of the parents and their team has been simple, as all the best deceptions are:

Deliberately highlighting the tabloid rubbish of autumn 2007 against them so that everyone, from the house of Commons to Oprah Winfrey to the on-line audience for the Leveson inquiry, knows the mad accusations by heart, while muffling and blanketing the truly dangerous, accurate, stuff from beginning to end.

That's it folks, it's that simple: no need for hidden allies, protection or political help. That is the plan that they have consistently followed and it's worked a treat. But only by keeping the lid on Amaral and the hard core of truth about the PJ investigation. Bit by bit the contents have dribbled out and the pair have struggled to screw the lid down even tighter. The steam started to rise in Lisbon in 2010 and spouted out with Kate McCann's ill-conceived Madeleine. Now, after five years, the pot has finally burst in their faces.

Their proven lies about the course of the PJ investigation go back not to May 2007, where so much is still uncertain or a matter of opinion, but to the beginning of August of that year. That is when the proof of Kate and Gerry McCann's attempt to prevent the UK public finding out about the details of the investigation at any cost becomes visible.

And that's why the end of the case against Goncalo Amaral – for it will not be resumed in six months – is so crucial. That's why the Bureau splashed it.

From Beginning to End

Leaving aside the couple's role earlier in the investigation, at all the subsequent crucial junctures of the affair the parents have either lied or deliberately misrepresented or muffled events to deceive the British public about the interrupted investigation.
On August 2 2007 they began the calculated lying about the police activities against them which form the core of Amaral's claims.
In summer 2008 they deliberately misrepresented the Portuguese archiving summary which had confirmed the Seven's refusal to co-operate with the inquiry and the McCanns' failure to "demonstrate their innocence".
In January 2009 they secretly commenced the silencing and libel actions against Amaral while lying on the greatest possible scale that they were in Portugal for different reasons.
In 2010 the Portuguese courts demolished their human rights claim against Amaral and one of the three legs of their libel claim. There was no media statement from the McCanns.
In January 2013 the McCanns accepted defeat in their libel claim but refused to make any statement or answer any questions about the matter.

The Proof

The Beginning

On August 2 2007 a police squad turned the McCanns over. The house was searched, possessions were seized and they were left, according to Kate McCann, with "just the clothes they were wearing." Later their car was seized for forensic examination.

The lies which both the McCanns told on that date and afterwards – outright porkies – to prevent the UK public discovering anything of the truth about the investigation are listed in these Bureau archives below. Kate McCann's attempted excuse in Madeleine (page 206) that they "had no choice" but to lie demonstrates how lying is their preferred or instinctive mode of operation when in a tight spot. The lying about the investigation and Amaral has never stopped since then.

http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/2012_06_01_archive.html

http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/slowly-strangling-in-web-of-their-own.html

The Archiving Summary

This is the Team's précis of the summary which they fed to the UK press on publication and which, in the usual way of the great days of Team McCann spin, was written up in the same words in numerous papers.This one comes from the Standard. The dishonesty and the motive are quite manifest.

“The Portuguese police inquiry into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann was condemned in the strongest terms by the country's public prosecutors, new documents revealed today." [a deliberate lie; it was not.]

Detectives were criticised for establishing "no element of proof " about what happened to Madeleine or even whether she was alive or dead.”[a deliberate lie; they were not]

“A source close to the McCanns' legal team said action against the Portuguese police was now increasingly likely. He said: "Given this blatant misrepresentation of evidence, legal action against the Portuguese police is very much on the agenda. [another deliberate lie; there was no "misrepresentation of evidence. We still await the legal action against the PJ].

"The lawyers are considering very seriously whether action needs to be taken against individual officers when evidence was clearly misrepresented in such obvious ways at such crucial times." [see above].

Portugal and Duarte

As we know from Madeleine Gerry McCann went to Portugal specifically to plot the libel claim and gagging order with Duarte. In perhaps the most prolonged and widespread example of his gratuitous lying he gave interview after interview stating that he was there for other reasons.http://www.mccannfiles.com/id107.html

Portuguese Appeal Courts

Not only was Amaral vindicated but the judges, as Kate McCann's Madeleine let slip, knocked away the third leg of the libel claim, damage to the so-called search. She writes: "The latest verdict was that Amaral’s poisonous allegations did not damage our investigation in any way." That's one of the three libel claims dead.

She and Gerry McCann had known since 2009 that proving Amaral's interpretation of events in the apartment, the subject of the main claim of the three would be very difficult. When announcing the dropping of the libel case against Tal y Qual then Mitchell had said:

"The libel action against Tal & Qual has been dropped for a number of reasons. Firstly, the newspaper went bust some time ago. Secondly Tal & Qual could probably have mounted a defence, as they were reporting what a certain police officer believed at the time." Which is the same 100% defence –"genuine belief that something is true" – which worked for Mad Marcos and would work for Amaral in court.

So much for Clarence's version. The Telegraph, to whom he had given the story, was rather more blunt: "This week the couple withdrew their defamation action after being advised that the newspaper had a strong defence under Portuguese law. It could argue the story was published in good faith because senior police officers did at the time believe the McCanns may have been implicated in the case." That's two of the three claims dead – but they had to keep the lid on, didn't they?

The Straw Men

And on the parallel track the McCanns, despite the statement of one of their lawyers on BBC television in 2007 that the aim was to "expunge" from the public memory the wild claims against them made in the press:
In March 2009 recirculated all the invented tabloid claims against them to the public House of Commons media committee.
In 2012 recirculated all the same claims in even greater detail to the public and on-line audience for the Leveson inquiry.

Highlight the one. Keep the lid on the other.

The lid's off. They are toast.

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Re: Blacksmith:They just dont get it

Post  devonmum on Fri 25 Jan - 18:12

matthew wrote:They Really Don't

The poor boobies in the McCann camp think this is some temporary blip that they'll weather if they keep their heads down. They can't get to grips with what's going on. So let's spell out why the libel trial suspension is no ordinary news item.

Since 2008 and the publication of Goncalo Amaral's book the strategy of the parents and their team has been simple, as all the best deceptions are:

Deliberately highlighting the tabloid rubbish of autumn 2007 against them so that everyone, from the house of Commons to Oprah Winfrey to the on-line audience for the Leveson inquiry, knows the mad accusations by heart, while muffling and blanketing the truly dangerous, accurate, stuff from beginning to end.

That's it folks, it's that simple: no need for hidden allies, protection or political help. That is the plan that they have consistently followed and it's worked a treat. But only by keeping the lid on Amaral and the hard core of truth about the PJ investigation. Bit by bit the contents have dribbled out and the pair have struggled to screw the lid down even tighter. The steam started to rise in Lisbon in 2010 and spouted out with Kate McCann's ill-conceived Madeleine. Now, after five years, the pot has finally burst in their faces.

Their proven lies about the course of the PJ investigation go back not to May 2007, where so much is still uncertain or a matter of opinion, but to the beginning of August of that year. That is when the proof of Kate and Gerry McCann's attempt to prevent the UK public finding out about the details of the investigation at any cost becomes visible.

And that's why the end of the case against Goncalo Amaral – for it will not be resumed in six months – is so crucial. That's why the Bureau splashed it.

From Beginning to End

Leaving aside the couple's role earlier in the investigation, at all the subsequent crucial junctures of the affair the parents have either lied or deliberately misrepresented or muffled events to deceive the British public about the interrupted investigation.
On August 2 2007 they began the calculated lying about the police activities against them which form the core of Amaral's claims.
In summer 2008 they deliberately misrepresented the Portuguese archiving summary which had confirmed the Seven's refusal to co-operate with the inquiry and the McCanns' failure to "demonstrate their innocence".
In January 2009 they secretly commenced the silencing and libel actions against Amaral while lying on the greatest possible scale that they were in Portugal for different reasons.
In 2010 the Portuguese courts demolished their human rights claim against Amaral and one of the three legs of their libel claim. There was no media statement from the McCanns.
In January 2013 the McCanns accepted defeat in their libel claim but refused to make any statement or answer any questions about the matter.

The Proof

The Beginning

On August 2 2007 a police squad turned the McCanns over. The house was searched, possessions were seized and they were left, according to Kate McCann, with "just the clothes they were wearing." Later their car was seized for forensic examination.

The lies which both the McCanns told on that date and afterwards – outright porkies – to prevent the UK public discovering anything of the truth about the investigation are listed in these Bureau archives below. Kate McCann's attempted excuse in Madeleine (page 206) that they "had no choice" but to lie demonstrates how lying is their preferred or instinctive mode of operation when in a tight spot. The lying about the investigation and Amaral has never stopped since then.

http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/2012_06_01_archive.html

http://blacksmithbureau.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/slowly-strangling-in-web-of-their-own.html

The Archiving Summary

This is the Team's précis of the summary which they fed to the UK press on publication and which, in the usual way of the great days of Team McCann spin, was written up in the same words in numerous papers.This one comes from the Standard. The dishonesty and the motive are quite manifest.

“The Portuguese police inquiry into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann was condemned in the strongest terms by the country's public prosecutors, new documents revealed today." [a deliberate lie; it was not.]

Detectives were criticised for establishing "no element of proof " about what happened to Madeleine or even whether she was alive or dead.”[a deliberate lie; they were not]

“A source close to the McCanns' legal team said action against the Portuguese police was now increasingly likely. He said: "Given this blatant misrepresentation of evidence, legal action against the Portuguese police is very much on the agenda. [another deliberate lie; there was no "misrepresentation of evidence. We still await the legal action against the PJ].

"The lawyers are considering very seriously whether action needs to be taken against individual officers when evidence was clearly misrepresented in such obvious ways at such crucial times." [see above].

Portugal and Duarte

As we know from Madeleine Gerry McCann went to Portugal specifically to plot the libel claim and gagging order with Duarte. In perhaps the most prolonged and widespread example of his gratuitous lying he gave interview after interview stating that he was there for other reasons.http://www.mccannfiles.com/id107.html

Portuguese Appeal Courts

Not only was Amaral vindicated but the judges, as Kate McCann's Madeleine let slip, knocked away the third leg of the libel claim, damage to the so-called search. She writes: "The latest verdict was that Amaral’s poisonous allegations did not damage our investigation in any way." That's one of the three libel claims dead.

She and Gerry McCann had known since 2009 that proving Amaral's interpretation of events in the apartment, the subject of the main claim of the three would be very difficult. When announcing the dropping of the libel case against Tal y Qual then Mitchell had said:

"The libel action against Tal & Qual has been dropped for a number of reasons. Firstly, the newspaper went bust some time ago. Secondly Tal & Qual could probably have mounted a defence, as they were reporting what a certain police officer believed at the time." Which is the same 100% defence –"genuine belief that something is true" – which worked for Mad Marcos and would work for Amaral in court.

So much for Clarence's version. The Telegraph, to whom he had given the story, was rather more blunt: "This week the couple withdrew their defamation action after being advised that the newspaper had a strong defence under Portuguese law. It could argue the story was published in good faith because senior police officers did at the time believe the McCanns may have been implicated in the case." That's two of the three claims dead – but they had to keep the lid on, didn't they?

The Straw Men

And on the parallel track the McCanns, despite the statement of one of their lawyers on BBC television in 2007 that the aim was to "expunge" from the public memory the wild claims against them made in the press:
In March 2009 recirculated all the invented tabloid claims against them to the public House of Commons media committee.
In 2012 recirculated all the same claims in even greater detail to the public and on-line audience for the Leveson inquiry.

Highlight the one. Keep the lid on the other.

The lid's off. They are toast.






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Re: Blacksmith:They just dont get it

Post  Guest on Fri 25 Jan - 18:18

Blacksmith(s) have regained consistent form.

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Post  wantthetruth on Fri 25 Jan - 18:29

He's been getting better and better these past few weeks.


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Post  cherry1 on Fri 25 Jan - 19:03

In March 2009 recirculated all the invented tabloid claims against them to the public House of Commons media committee.
In 2012 recirculated all the same claims in even greater detail to the public and on-line audience for the Leveson inquiry.



It is their own words which repeatedly trip themselves up.

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Post  almostgothic on Fri 25 Jan - 19:45

The lid's off. They are toast.

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Re: Blacksmith:They just dont get it

Post  margaret on Fri 25 Jan - 20:04

I just hope we don't have to wait too long. I've come over all excitable.

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Post  Guest on Fri 25 Jan - 20:06

I hope so too - can't stand burnt toast.

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Post  marxman on Fri 25 Jan - 20:24

margaret wrote:I just hope we don't have to wait too long. I've come over all excitable.

Hi Margaret, are you on JH site? What I mean is
are you the same Margaret there?
If so, interesting comment from sallypelt I think.

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Post  interested on Fri 25 Jan - 20:37

The End Is Nigh wrote:I hope so too - can't stand burnt toast.

Nice one "The End Is Nigh" - LOL - and, of course, Blacksmith.

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Post  Guest on Fri 25 Jan - 20:45

marxman wrote:
margaret wrote:I just hope we don't have to wait too long. I've come over all excitable.

Hi Margaret, are you on JH site? What I mean is
are you the same Margaret there?
If so, interesting comment from sallypelt I think.

Do tell ...............

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Post  margaret on Fri 25 Jan - 21:32

marxman wrote:
margaret wrote:I just hope we don't have to wait too long. I've come over all excitable.

Hi Margaret, are you on JH site? What I mean is
are you the same Margaret there?
If so, interesting comment from sallypelt I think.

Yes that's me, ooh it's you too!

I'm doing a thread, Tony's found out it was Mccanns who asked for negotiations and adjournment.

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Post  margaret on Fri 25 Jan - 21:44

marxman wrote:
margaret wrote:I just hope we don't have to wait too long. I've come over all excitable.

Hi Margaret, are you on JH site? What I mean is
are you the same Margaret there?
If so, interesting comment from sallypelt I think.

Forgive me Marxman, l don't always take notice of who I'm replying to.

Yes but l don't get it, l do the Amaral bit, but not LP?

Here:

sallypelt wrote:Why did Blacksmith mention the Leicester Police? I have followed this McCann's case since it happened, but in 2008 I heard something that stunned me into silence. It didn't stop me from reading about them on different sites, but nothing got close to what I heard, until I read Blacksmith's site, earlier today. This tells me that Blacksmith KNOWS what happened. This is the part that convinced me:

Quite what the impact will be on the media when the inevitable happens and the parents are unmasked – courtesy of Amaral and Leicester police

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Post  Loopdaloop on Sat 26 Jan - 1:06

What's sallypelt on about?

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Post  Lillyofthevalley on Sat 26 Jan - 9:56

Justice for Maddy I believe loop

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Post  marxman on Sat 26 Jan - 10:44

Loopdaloop wrote:What's sallypelt on about?

Hi loop, this was posted on JH site by sallypelt,

"Why did Blacksmith mention the Leicester Police? I have followed this McCann's case since it happened, but in 2008 I heard something that stunned me into silence. It didn't stop me from reading about them on different sites, but nothing got close to what I heard, until I read Blacksmith's site, earlier today. This tells me that Blacksmith KNOWS what happened. This is the part that convinced me:"

This below is the poster's signature

Quite what the impact will be on the media when the inevitable happens and the parents are unmasked – courtesy of Amaral and Leicester police.


Last edited by marxman on Sat 26 Jan - 10:47; edited 1 time in total (Reason for editing : add info)

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Post  Loopdaloop on Sat 26 Jan - 11:04

marxman wrote:
Loopdaloop wrote:What's sallypelt on about?

Hi loop, this was posted on JH site by sallypelt,

"Why did Blacksmith mention the Leicester Police? I have followed this McCann's case since it happened, but in 2008 I heard something that stunned me into silence. It didn't stop me from reading about them on different sites, but nothing got close to what I heard, until I read Blacksmith's site, earlier today. This tells me that Blacksmith KNOWS what happened. This is the part that convinced me:"

This below is the poster's signature

Quite what the impact will be on the media when the inevitable happens and the parents are unmasked – courtesy of Amaral and Leicester police.


Thanks, she's obviously only just become properly enlightened.

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Post  marxman on Sat 26 Jan - 12:59

Loopdaloop wrote:
marxman wrote:
Loopdaloop wrote:What's sallypelt on about?

Hi loop, this was posted on JH site by sallypelt,

"Why did Blacksmith mention the Leicester Police? I have followed this McCann's case since it happened, but in 2008 I heard something that stunned me into silence. It didn't stop me from reading about them on different sites, but nothing got close to what I heard, until I read Blacksmith's site, earlier today. This tells me that Blacksmith KNOWS what happened. This is the part that convinced me:"

This below is the poster's signature

Quite what the impact will be on the media when the inevitable happens and the parents are unmasked – courtesy of Amaral and Leicester police.


Thanks, she's obviously only just become properly enlightened.

I think this poster is alluding to having inside
information, possibly coming from a contact
inside the LP or that they worked within it.
"stunned me into silence" what kind of thing
does that? Unless its job confidentiality?
I just find it interesting.

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Post  almostgothic on Sat 26 Jan - 13:18

It must have been something quite sinister or scandalous to stun someone to silence.
Has the poster offered to elaborate at all, however cryptically?

I'm intrigued, and quite prepared to be stunned myself.
Although up to now, the only thing that ever stunned me to silence was a general anaesthetic!

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Post  Guest on Sat 26 Jan - 13:26

Yes, I too wish we could have at least a pointer to something more specific!

Usually ok at reading between the lines, I can't make anything of this at all.

You'd only know what it's about if you were already in the know, but personally I don't know what it is that I should know, so I don't know.

(Phew)

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Post  margaret on Sat 26 Jan - 13:57

Hi all, no she/he hasnt updated. So were are none the wiser!

Marxman, l dont think thats her signature because it doesnt appear under her other posts, that was the sentence she read in a blacksmith blog post, but its not in his post from yesterday...? (i cant see it if it is)

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Post  jd16 on Sat 26 Jan - 14:47

To anyone following Operation Fernbridge I think it is clear what sallypelt means. Ive had the same reaction over the past few weeks of what is being discovered about the UK's establishment, which looks very much like it is also spread & networked across Europe. All the dots are joining up and quite how the public are going to stomach it if it becomes mainstream I don't know is how I feel about it all too

Does anyone remember 2 radio presenters from around the Nottingham area (I think) who went to PDL a few weeks after in May 2007, and at the end of the week the girl presenter said they had discovered what really happened but could't say anything and look visibly shocked by it all. Ive seen it on youtube or somewhere a few years ago and just remember her on the beach in PDL on the video talking about it

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sat 26 Jan - 15:01

Yes I have seen that video - it would be very interesting to know what those reporters meant and if they are still working, rather than carted off to Siberia!

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Post  marxman on Sat 26 Jan - 15:08

margaret wrote:Hi all, no she/he hasnt updated. So were are none the wiser!

Marxman, l dont think thats her signature because it doesnt appear under her other posts, that was the sentence she read in a blacksmith blog post, but its not in his post from yesterday...? (i cant see it if it is)

Hi Margaret, I stand corrected, it is sallypelt highlighting
a particular sentence that convinced her that BS "knew what
happened" and as you say, its not contained in his latest
article so it must be from a previous post.

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Post  jd16 on Sat 26 Jan - 15:20

Not Born Yesterday wrote:Yes I have seen that video - it would be very interesting to know what those reporters meant and if they are still working, rather than carted off to Siberia!

I'd like to see it again to refresh my memory with the knowledge I have now, though bets are its been whooshed!

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