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Post  matthew on Tue 12 Feb - 19:23

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10865099

British police say a DNA test has confirmed a New Zealand girl who looks strikingly like Madeleine McCann is not the missing youngster.

A spokeswoman for London's Metropolitan Police said the requested sample from the Queenstown girl had been tested.

"Following a DNA submission we are now satisfied the girl identified in New Zealand is not Madeleine McCann," the spokeswoman said.

British police had requested the DNA sample after an alleged reported sighting of Madeleine in New Zealand, almost six years after she went missing during a family holiday in Portugal at the age of three.

There have been several other reported sightings of Madeleine in the Queenstown region in recent years and police said DNA sampling was a conclusive way to establish the identity of the New Zealand girl.

New Zealand police said the DNA requested by Scotland Yard was given voluntarily.

Now can the investigation move on please

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  almostgothic on Tue 12 Feb - 19:28

Let us hope that this poor kid and her family can now get on with their lives - they are just the latest in a long line of McCann victims.

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  dazedandconfused on Tue 12 Feb - 19:31

matthew wrote:http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10865099

British police say a DNA test has confirmed a New Zealand girl who looks strikingly like Madeleine McCann is not the missing youngster.

A spokeswoman for London's Metropolitan Police said the requested sample from the Queenstown girl had been tested.

"Following a DNA submission we are now satisfied the girl identified in New Zealand is not Madeleine McCann," the spokeswoman said.

British police had requested the DNA sample after an alleged reported sighting of Madeleine in New Zealand, almost six years after she went missing during a family holiday in Portugal at the age of three.

There have been several other reported sightings of Madeleine in the Queenstown region in recent years and police said DNA sampling was a conclusive way to establish the identity of the New Zealand girl.

New Zealand police said the DNA requested by Scotland Yard was given voluntarily.

Now can the investigation move on please

Well that's a surprise. Suppose there's a resounding chorus of "told you so" coming from NZ.

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  margaret on Tue 12 Feb - 19:50

Gods honest truth, last week someone posted the side by side pics of Maddie in the Everton shirt and the age progression pic saying 'look how much she looks like Maddie, looks like they've found her!'

How utterly stupid are some people, she thought the age progression pic WAS the NZ girl!

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Post  matthew on Tue 12 Feb - 19:56

margaret wrote:Gods honest truth, last week someone posted the side by side pics of Maddie in the Everton shirt and the age progression pic saying 'look how much she looks like Maddie, looks like they've found her!'

How utterly stupid are some people, she thought the age progression pic WAS the NZ girl!

Thought it made a great point though...from May 2007 onwards,which Maddie were we supposed to lQOK for ?

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  almostgothic on Tue 12 Feb - 20:02

Now awaiting a week of weeping, wailing and gnashing of dentures from the Candle Lighters and Pray Pals on the OFM Facebook.

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Post  Panda on Tue 12 Feb - 20:04

I think the McCanns have exhausted Countries where it was claimed Madeleine was seen and really aught to shut up now. They have involved countless Police Forces around the World and I hope SY apologised to the NZ Police for doubting them.

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  tanszi on Tue 12 Feb - 20:49

i really do not understand why it was necessary for SY to request a DNA sample when the NZ police said they were happy that the child was not Madeleine. Seems the Portuguese police were not the only ones suspected of not being able to do their job or was it because the child parents were transient. it would of course be Madeleine then wouldnt it. Well i think this is a well deserved smack in the face for the doubters. jimo.

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  MaryB on Tue 12 Feb - 21:04

We didn't even know for sure what Maddie looked like in May 2007 so it's hardly likely we know what she looks like now.

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  kitti on Tue 12 Feb - 21:09

What prattts SY and the MET are looking to the rest off the world.

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  cass on Tue 12 Feb - 21:12

the mcanns should be very grateful that this childs mother has agreed to having this dna test done -- what would they have done if she said no ? ad requested that km gm come and fly out themselfs -- not a lot to ask is it -- but instead they did the hacked off stuff -- now kerry has always gone looking for ben -- and sy hopefully will notice this -- kerry was on the news saying she has a very good relationship with south yorkshire police team and greece -- hope that now sy will say we looked we did everything we could -- no more --

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Post  Panda on Tue 12 Feb - 21:16

tanszi wrote:i really do not understand why it was necessary for SY to request a DNA sample when the NZ police said they were happy that the child was not Madeleine. Seems the Portuguese police were not the only ones suspected of not being able to do their job or was it because the child parents were transient. it would of course be Madeleine then wouldnt it. Well i think this is a well deserved smack in the face for the doubters. jimo.
Apparently SY did not go to NZ, they asked the Police to obtain a sample. I think the McCanns have set a precedent and now the Parents any child who goes missing abroad will expect the same Police involvement. Also, we know that Sharon and April's mother copied the McCanns , what next?

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  kitti on Tue 12 Feb - 21:29

How did it actually get sent, does Anyone know ?


And did Kate and Gerry have to give samples too, to prove or disprove that the girl isn't there's?

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  Panda on Tue 12 Feb - 21:50

kitti wrote:How did it actually get sent, does Anyone know ?


And did Kate and Gerry have to give samples too, to prove or disprove that the girl isn't there's?
Since it was such a valuable sample I would have thought in a Diplomatic bag or something similar.I presume Kate and Gerry would have given samples because the RSS destroyed all the samples they held. Also , we are talking 6 yrs later.

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  joyce1938 on Tue 12 Feb - 22:09

all that was needed really was,the childs dna to make sure it matched her own parents she lived with ,not really the macs at all ,that would just mean a letter from nz to give said evidence of the facts of her parentage joyce1938

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  Panda on Tue 12 Feb - 22:16

joyce1938 wrote:all that was needed really was,the childs dna to make sure it matched her own parents she lived with ,not really the macs at all ,that would just mean a letter from nz to give said evidence of the facts of her parentage joyce1938
Yes joyce1938 but SY wanted to do their own investigation because they didn't trust the NZ Police initially did they??
This way there can be no doubt.

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  margaret on Tue 12 Feb - 22:41

SY must have maddies DNA and I must fill the Mcs with terror that the Met are being so vigorous, not like those sardine munchers who they claim ignored sightings.

Wonder what SY make of the DNA from the bodily fluids in the hire car?

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Post  cass on Tue 12 Feb - 22:49

is it just me or does anyone else think that sy asking for madeleines dna to compare with this girls is strange ? i thought it was all about fake sightings -- but im beginning to think theres more to it ? ok kate and gerrys dna would it still be on data ? and what if by doing these tests they have found something and are making the tapas group sweat --i know it could be said its routine and sy are just doing their job but im hoping this could be a start to asking for the reopening of the case

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Post  Panda on Tue 12 Feb - 23:27

cass wrote:is it just me or does anyone else think that sy asking for madeleines dna to compare with this girls is strange ? i thought it was all about fake sightings -- but im beginning to think theres more to it ? ok kate and gerrys dna would it still be on data ? and what if by doing these tests they have found something and are making the tapas group sweat --i know it could be said its routine and sy are just doing their job but im hoping this could be a start to asking for the reopening of the case
I think it is SY leaving "no stone unturned" to prove they have crossed all the T's and dotted the I's in their investigation.
I would be very very surprised if the case were to be re-opened. The Portugese and British Police have spent millions each and not a shred of evidence as to what really happened. Portugal is really broke and would not agree to spending any more money unless there was positive evidence.

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  Panda on Wed 13 Feb - 4:36

Madeleine McCann Lookalike DNA Test Negative


A New Zealand girl was repeatedly mistaken for Madeleine
McCann but tests have proved she is not the missing youngster.



4:18am UK,
Wednesday 13 February 2013

Artists impression of what Madeleine would look
like
















DNA tests have confirmed a New Zealand girl is not the missing
youngster Madeleine McCann, police have announced.

The girl has twice been mistaken for Madeleine

The first sighting was last March and the second on New Year's Eve.

New Zealand police have said in a statement that they have sent the DNA
samples to Scotland Yard officers who are still investigating Madeleine's
disappearance.

Detective Inspector Steve McGregor said: "We have received confirmation from
Scotland Yard that a DNA sample provided voluntarily from a girl mistaken as
missing British girl Madeleine McCann on New Year's Eve in Queenstown last year
does not provide a match for that of the missing girl.

"At the time of the sighting police made thorough inquiries into the sighting
and were completely satisfied that the girl was not Madeleine McCann."

New Zealand police say the unnamed girl's family has requested privacy.

A Scotland Yard spokesman confirmed that following the DNA submission police
were "satisfied" that the girl identified in New Zealand was not Madeleine.

Madeleine was nearly four when she disappeared from her family's holiday
apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal's Algarve on May 3, 2007 as her parents
dined at a tapas restaurant with friends nearby.

Kate and Gerry McCann, of Rothley, Leicestershire, have campaigned tirelessly
for information on their daughter's whereabouts, battling for a review by the
Metropolitan Police, which has now been under way for more than 18 months.

Her disappearance has sparked a number of false sightings around the
world.

Portuguese police closed the case in 2008 after failing to find out what
happened to her.



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Post  dutchclogs on Wed 13 Feb - 4:43

margaret wrote:Gods honest truth, last week someone posted the side by side pics of Maddie in the Everton shirt and the age progression pic saying 'look how much she looks like Maddie, looks like they've found her!'

How utterly stupid are some people, she thought the age progression pic WAS the NZ girl!

I agree margaret

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  Guest on Wed 13 Feb - 8:03

cass wrote:is it just me or does anyone else think that sy asking for madeleines dna to compare with this girls is strange ? i thought it was all about fake sightings -- but im beginning to think theres more to it ? ok kate and gerrys dna would it still be on data ? and what if by doing these tests they have found something and are making the tapas group sweat --i know it could be said its routine and sy are just doing their job but im hoping this could be a start to asking for the reopening of the case


I think it would be surprising if the Case were not reopened in the next few months, Cass.

But in order to satisfy the Portuguese Judiciary, the prospect of securing Convictions would need to be high, so most of the grounds for doing so will need to be in place already (Witness the ongoing close cooperation between SY and Lisbon) so there probably won't be too much in the way of financial constraints after an Official Reopening as most of the work will have been done. The balance will be Procedural.




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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  susible on Wed 13 Feb - 9:12

Okay, so just recovering from nearly chocking on my first coffee of the day, where clicking on the Sky news page I came across today's little gem..

What a load of tosh...as Joyce said and I have said previously, why not just test the girl against her parents? Sheesh, it's hardly rocket science..

However, if this truly has been sanctioned by SY and the NZ police really did send a sample, then I think it is far deeper than ruling out one sighting, perhaps it is to nail down the McCann's DNA, fresh, up to date samples that the McCann's cannot refute is theirs, no "bungling PJ taking taking or storing the samples, our very own Scotland Yard, and of course the McCann's could hardly refuse to provide the sample, that would be totally suspect. Either that or someone from SY is determined to make a mockery of these ridiculous sightings and will go to great lengths to dismiss all of them, though that seems like overkill (and very expensive) No, I far prefer to think that this is to do with the original DNA claims during the PJ investigation...Now that would be really good news.

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  matthew on Wed 13 Feb - 9:21

The answer lies within the files,i think the SY & Oporto reviews have to go through every documented piece on this case to make the prosecutions case watertight,if that means ruling out a girl in NZ they know is not Madeliene...then so be it
All we need now is patience...we've waited nearly 6 years & seeing Gerry so desperate says it wont be too long now

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Re: Confirmation of NZ girl's DNA

Post  susible on Wed 13 Feb - 9:29

How could they rule out all of the sightings though? Some have been extremely tenuous..who could forget the Sun's graphic images of alleged sightings, the one in France sticks out for me..half naked guy with gun etc and of course we also had "Maddie singing in a choir in Canada" Just recently we had the guy on the plane etc and all of these were allegedly reported to the police, but are going to be impossible to refute, and as such would remain on the "not disproved" list.

No, I'm hoping that the DNA part of this alleged sighting rather than subsequent definitive proof that the girl is not Madeleine, is what the real issue is about


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