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Post  frencheuropean on Tue 12 Feb - 19:30


Many thanks to Inès who posted and translated the article on T.M.C.F
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http://www.teinteresa.es/politica/Mundo ... 13798.html

The agency that, according to El Mundo, spied on Jordi Pujol Jr’s girlfriend is the same agency that searched for Maddie in Spain.

12 February 2013

The private detective agency Método 3 was contracted for 6 months but its searches were not successful.

The agency has now become embroiled in the subject of spying on the president of the Catalán PP and on Jordi Pujol’s son’s girlfriend.

The agency was contracted by the parents of Madeleine McCann for a monthly fee of 67.500 euros for six months (later the agency lowered its fees to a total of 108.000 euros), in order to find their daughter, but in spite of Método 3’s director claiming that he was sure the girl was alive, the agency did not manage to find her.

In September 2007, shortly after being contracted, Método 3 sent a team to Morocco, one of the possible points where the supposed abductors could have taken Maddie. In October of the same year, Método 3 said that the girl could have been abducted by a paedophile network.

At the end of 2011, upon the request of Scotland Yard, Método delivered more than 30 boxes full of documents with information to this police force. This did not lead to the girl’s whereabouts either, although Marco claimed that the boxes contained 8 important leads. Sources close to the British investigation revealed that these leads were not so conclusive.

However, Método 3 again appeared in the newspapers six years after its name became known world-wide following the Maddie case. Now, and as published today by El Mundo, it is the agency that supposedly contracted the ex secretary of the PSC to record conversations between Alicia Sánchez Camacho, secretary of the PP in Catalonia, and Victória Alvarez, the girlfriend of Jordi Pujol Ferrusola.

The socialists have denied espionage, although El Mundo has published the agency’s bill for the services contracted which apparently included some recordings mad using a sophisticated system of hidden microphones in a Barcelona restaurant, where Camacho and Alvarez had gone to eat. The recordings apparently contain conversations about visits made by Jordi Pujol Jr to Andorra taking bags of money with him and about his business deals in Argentina.

What is certain according to El Mundo is that Método 3 is one of Spain’s most prestigious detective agencies, although they were unlucky in the case of Madeleine. Neither is it the first time that the agency has been linked to high level espionage. In 2009, El Confidencial published information showing that Método 3 spied, for the fee of 56.000 euros, on the vice presidents of Barça - Jaume Ferrer, Joan Boix, Joan Franquesa and Rafael Yuste.

The information highlighted the controversy that has always surrounded the detective agency. Several years ago this agency was involved in an illegal phone tapping incident acting upon the request of a supposed businessman, which led to the arrest of the agency’s directors.

In addition, Método 3 was the agency that found the “deceased” Francisco Paesa in Paris and was involved, according to El Confidencial, in the matter of espionage of the then vice president of the Madrid Community as well of the current president, Ignacio González."






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Post  almostgothic on Tue 12 Feb - 20:25

Thank you frencheuropean!

Oh dear - looks like another fine mess they've got themselves into ......

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Post  Panda on Tue 12 Feb - 22:43

Thanks frenchperson.

ABCes a Newspaper owned by I think by the Telegraph interviewed Metodo 3 in Spain in 2009 and said they did not receive the £5,000 a month quoted in the British Press , but E160,000 plus E4,000 expenses for 6 months work.
Their business was money laundering and fraud......just like Halligen.!!

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Post  weissnicht on Thu 14 Feb - 4:48

I call this all McMoneyLaundering "later the agency lowered its fees to a total of 108.000 euros"
The Fund shows complete different figures.
Metodo 3 has said that already before, it's not the first time, and the stupid UK press still keep repeating the bloody £500K figure. And when adding Halligen to that...who knows what would come out at the end.

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Post  Panda on Thu 14 Feb - 6:55

weissnicht wrote:I call this all McMoneyLaundering "later the agency lowered its fees to a total of 108.000 euros"
The Fund shows complete different figures.
Metodo 3 has said that already before, it's not the first time, and the stupid UK press still keep repeating the bloody £500K figure. And when adding Halligen to that...who knows what would come out at the end.
Yes, why was Kennedy . a shady businessman , responsible for supplying all the "Detectives."?

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Post  weissnicht on Thu 14 Feb - 10:18

Panda wrote:
weissnicht wrote:I call this all McMoneyLaundering "later the agency lowered its fees to a total of 108.000 euros"
The Fund shows complete different figures.
Metodo 3 has said that already before, it's not the first time, and the stupid UK press still keep repeating the bloody £500K figure. And when adding Halligen to that...who knows what would come out at the end.
Yes, why was Kennedy . a shady businessman , responsible for supplying all the "Detectives."?
They are good on illegal spying... maybe that was the reason. To spy on PJ maybe?

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Post  Panda on Thu 14 Feb - 10:36

weissnicht wrote:
Panda wrote:
weissnicht wrote:I call this all McMoneyLaundering "later the agency lowered its fees to a total of 108.000 euros"
The Fund shows complete different figures.
Metodo 3 has said that already before, it's not the first time, and the stupid UK press still keep repeating the bloody £500K figure. And when adding Halligen to that...who knows what would come out at the end.
Yes, why was Kennedy . a shady businessman , responsible for supplying all the "Detectives."?
They are good on illegal spying... maybe that was the reason. To spy on PJ maybe?
Kennedy is a shady dealer and if you notice, Metodo 3 and Halligens credentials were Fraud and Money Laundering.

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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Feb - 12:20

Didn't we have a "new" poster on here very recently, telling us that discussion of the Fund was pointless?
Funny, that.

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Post  Panda on Thu 14 Feb - 17:16

Iris wrote:Didn't we have a "new" poster on here very recently, telling us that discussion of the Fund was pointless?
Funny, that.
I would say the Fund, apart from finding Madeleine, would be the most important consideration in this case.

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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Feb - 17:25

And that is why it forms part of the Review


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Post  Lioned on Thu 14 Feb - 19:58

[quote="The End Is Nigh"]And that is why it forms part of the Review


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Do we know it forms part of the review ?

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Post  kitti on Thu 14 Feb - 20:09

Didn't the judge remark after tony mentioned the fund by saying it's not part off this case ......just in case there may be a COURT CASE?

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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Feb - 20:10

Sorry, I can't reveal my source, so I accept that without corroboration people are perfectly entitled to treat the notion guardedly (I would, for sure!).

That said, even if one discounts my own claim, it would be surprising in the extreme if the Fund were not included.

I frequently challenge people on seemingly unsupported claims, but do understand the wide range of reasons why they might have no easily apparent robust backing - ranging from poor logic, trolling, misinterpretation, self-aggrandisement etc. through to a genuine concern for a semblance of integrity tempered by a wish to reassure like-minded people. Readers can judge better the merits (or otherwise) by considering the overall apparent reliability of the Poster.


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Post  Guest on Thu 14 Feb - 20:13

kitti wrote:Didn't the judge remark after tony mentioned the fund by saying it's not part off this case ......just in case there may be a COURT CASE?

He did indeed, along with similar thinly veiled references to other matters not relevant and admissible in the Case against TB.

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Post  almostgothic on Tue 19 Feb - 10:00

Google translation:

"Spies Arrested four methods 3" cover of NOW
The newspaper on Tuesday highlighted the arrest of director, chief operating officer and two employees of the detective agency.
NOW Barcelona | Updated 02/19/2013 00:13

The NOW newspaper on Tuesday opened the cover, with the arrest of four people as part of the transaction open for the National Police to investigate espionage in Catalonia. The paper highlights the arrest of director, chief operating officer and two employees of the detective agency Metodo 3.

http://www.ara.cat/especials/portadaaportada/portada-ara_0_868113362.html

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Post  kitti on Tue 19 Feb - 10:04

Oh dear lol.....another group arrested connected with the Mccanns......who next I wonder.


Surely SY must feel right twits if they are taking met3 seriously.

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Post  margaret on Tue 19 Feb - 10:06

The End Is Nigh wrote:Sorry, I can't reveal my source, so I accept that without corroboration people are perfectly entitled to treat the notion guardedly (I would, for sure!).

That said, even if one discounts my own claim, it would be surprising in the extreme if the Fund were not included.

I frequently challenge people on seemingly unsupported claims, but do understand the wide range of reasons why they might have no easily apparent robust backing - ranging from poor logic, trolling, misinterpretation, self-aggrandisement etc. through to a genuine concern for a semblance of integrity tempered by a wish to reassure like-minded people. Readers can judge better the merits (or otherwise) by considering the overall apparent reliability of the Poster.


TBH l think this review all started because Halligens arrest TEIN so l've always thought the fund was part of the review. Might be why they were spooked enough to set aside some money especially for the 'search' in this years accounts, never done that before!

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Post  almostgothic on Tue 19 Feb - 10:23

Google translation:

Police guarding the entrance to Method 3 after arrests
The four arrested for allegedly revealing secrets spend the night in the police station of La
Verneda

Barcelona. (Europa Press). - Agents of the National Police (CNP) last night plainclothes guarding the entrance to the detective agency Method 3 on Tuesday at dawn to avoid anyone could enter or take anything out of the office after the arrest of four of its members .

Those arrested for alleged revelation of secrets-the owner, Francisco Marco, and former employees Elisenda Villena, Julian and Alex Peribáñez Borreguero-have spent the night in the police station of La Verneda, where should testify before the NPC.

Also after midnight had discreet police surveillance before the Barcelona restaurant Camargue, where in 2010 he recorded a lunch between Alicia Sanchez Camacho (PP) and Victoria Alvarez , former partner of Jordi Pujol Ferrusola.

The exdetectives Peribáñez Borreguero and the police have acknowledged having made that recording but did argue that the orders of his superiors, according to sources of research.

he sources added that Camacho was able to listen to the recording and recognize that one of the voices is yours, but neither she nor Alvarez Alvarez or were aware of being recorded, which is a crime punishable by possible jail several years , under the Criminal Code.

http://www.lavanguardia.com/politica/20130219/54365528363/policia-custodia-metodo-3-detenciones.html

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Post  Panda on Tue 19 Feb - 10:24

kitti wrote:Oh dear lol.....another group arrested connected with the Mccanns......who next I wonder.


Surely SY must feel right twits if they are taking met3 seriously.
Actually kitti, Metodo 3 were known for fraud and Money laundering...not for finding missing Children!!!!!! the fact that the Fund employed them for months , same with Halligen, should hopefully give us clues that SY know they have found nothing to suggest the Portugese did not follow up leads etc, but plenty of evidence that the Fund was abused, we could have told them that a long time ago. Only yesterday I was reading one of the articles I saved, too long to write here, where it was proved that the £37,500 the Fund paid to have FindMadeleine set up was actually calculated to cost £14,000.

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Post  almostgothic on Tue 19 Feb - 10:47

Some might say that Brian Kennedy has been extremely unlucky in his choice of PIs for the McCanns.

Some might say that ...... but how does a hard-nosed (ruthless, even) business magnate manage to make such bad judgement calls?

Who else does he have in his little book of contacts?
Al Capone and Doctor Evil?

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Post  Panda on Tue 19 Feb - 11:25

Brian Kennedy is the one who has recruited these Money Launderers....sorry, Detectives . Also , the Corporate Lawyer of his Companies, Smethurst, was appointed to the Board of No Stone Unturned, yet successive Government Departments refuse to do anything about it.

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Post  interested on Tue 19 Feb - 15:35

If my memory is right, isn't this the bunch who were going to bring Madeleine home for Christmas 2007.

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Post  chrissie on Tue 19 Feb - 15:48

interested wrote:If my memory is right, isn't this the bunch who were going to bring Madeleine home for Christmas 2007.

IIRC, they said they would bring her home Christmas.....but didn't say which Christmas

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Post  Panda on Tue 19 Feb - 15:51

interested wrote:If my memory is right, isn't this the bunch who were going to bring Madeleine home for Christmas 2007.
Yes, and Metodo 3 , interviewed a long time ago by ABCes a Spanish branch of the Guardian said they did not receive all the money quoted in the British Press, E160,000 for 6 months work plus E4,000 expenses . Kennedy is a dodgy character, has had 2 Companies struck off for not submitting accounts on time, one of which was a Company, Weatherseal which took deposits from hundreds of people for new Windows and they lost their money. Why would the Fund employ Smethurst as a Director of the Fund, he is the Corporate Lawyer for Kennedy's Companies..

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as above

Post  halfamo on Tue 19 Feb - 16:38

I am truly amazed that a couple who believed their daughter to have been taken by paedophiles could have got themselves mixed up with so many dodgey people .This is a couple who are without doubt intelligent folks but on finding the daughter missing engaged the most dodgey people out there .Sorry i don't need to read all this below again . From previous reports the folks they employed to look for their little girl were people who had no experience in this field .I watched the parents of James Bulger and saw raw open wounds at the loss of their son after twenty years , i have never seen this kind of pain from the McCanns .Its about time they gave up this nonsense , this charade if only for their little girls sake , who IMO is long dead and they know this .

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