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Post  Loopdaloop on Thu 21 Mar - 19:10

Panda wrote:Let's face it Hacked off wouldn't have been born if it wasn't for the Press intruding on their Private lives . which I don't agree with and it should be curbed.
Whose business is it anyway what Celebrities and well known Business people get up to in private?
However, Investigative Journalism is quite different when it exposes wrongdoing and should be encouraged . I really don't know why a charter could not have been drawn up dealing with the two . components.

These 'celebs' utilise the media as their pawn to increase their selling power.
The 'paps' are invited to come and take photographs of people on beaches etc.
The celebs then endevour to build up these wholesome images
Of themselves as an amazing 'brand', they then become even more grandiose and egotistical and start dictating terms to the journalists which have previously fed them. If at the same time they are sleeping with hookers
Or taking part in nazi themed parties then far from being an 'invasion of privacy', what these stories are actually doing is adding balance to our perception of them. If they make themselves a 'product' then it is our business to be aware if they actually contain horsemeat. Those which choose to avoid the limelight, despite their fame have managed to do so and exceptionally well.

The rest of the doners of hacked off were those with invested interests in MP's which actively support Policies that increase their business interests and wealth. They donated to hacked off because they dont want the public to hear about the corruption of our MP's from expenses to cash for questions or cash for ammendments once the public become aware it generally leads to resignation and then its costy and time intensive to rebuild corrupt networks.

As for MP's who are in a world of their own representing nobody but the political and business 'classes' they want the public to be as illinformed as possible and continue voting their ilk in.
This can be evidenced by Maria Miller even using her role with the Leveson Inquiry to blackmail the daily telegraph into not reporting on her extortionate expenses (which they did anyway!)

As for the occasions where the press have 'got it wrong', the Mccanns fell into this list. Are we all intruding on their 'search' ? Perhaps we should all pack up and if people want to contribute to the fund still let them?

It is often publicity and awareness of issues that forces change within this country. There are countless examples of the media highlighting issues 'without evidence' which when public people acknowledge and say yes, this is true.

On one side of the coin we have winterbourne view and how the press have managed to encourage change which has allowed the reccomendations of Jim Mansell to be implemented and long stay hospitals for people with LD shut down. On the other side of the issue we had the Jimmy Daville situation were we couldnt find out the 'trith' until he was dead. Is this what will happen with the Mccanns? We need to wait for them to die? Is that rrally acceptable? Then another recent example of conspiracy swept underthe carpet was the hillsborough disaster. The truth has outed there, but the problem with any conspiracy is that the 'truth' is hard to put your figer on as there are lots of coflicting issues. My worry is whether we will ever get balance and bot sides of these stories publically aired again? If so what is the future for the mainstream media? I already get
most of my commentary and analysis from alternative sources!


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Re: Madeleine McCanns's Father Calls for Press Law

Post  kitti on Thu 21 Mar - 21:25

As far as the Mccanns are concerned, if the papers had stuck to 'facts' re..the dogs findings THEN it would off been different .


Instead they 'ignored' facts and printed totally ridiculous stories which sell newspapers.....the dog findings were secondary and boring to the editors, salacious headlines sell newspapers and make them lots off dosh.


So as far as the newspapers are concerned, they have burned their bridges , they have lost an opportunity to do some decent 'digging' and they have know one to blame but themselves, simple as that.


The newspapers have let themselves down, they have let the British public down and most off all, they have let Madeleine down and the McCanns are walking all over them....they are a disgrace.

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Post  fred on Thu 21 Mar - 22:10

kitti wrote:As far as the Mccanns are concerned, if the papers had stuck to 'facts' re..the dogs findings THEN it would off been different .
Instead they 'ignored' facts and printed totally ridiculous stories which sell newspapers.....the dog findings were secondary and boring to the editors, salacious headlines sell newspapers and make them lots off dosh.


So as far as the newspapers are concerned, they have burned their bridges , they have lost an opportunity to do some decent 'digging' and they have know one to blame but themselves, simple as that.


The newspapers have let themselves down, they have let the British public down and most off all, they have let Madeleine down and the McCanns are walking all over them....they are a disgrace.

Exactly!! But we had to have cringe worthy facts, like "I couldn't make love to Gerry" and the likes.

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Re: Madeleine McCanns's Father Calls for Press Law

Post  margaret on Thu 21 Mar - 22:50

fred wrote:

Exactly!! But we had to have cringe worthy facts, like "I couldn't make love to Gerry" and the likes.

I found that information disgusting especially coming from someone who doesn't like what the press say. Why would you even write about your sex life? But then again why would you write about your 3 year olds 'perfect genitals'.

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Re: Madeleine McCanns's Father Calls for Press Law

Post  T4two on Thu 21 Mar - 23:17

I wonder what the consequences will be for the present throttling of the media by Royal statute and the Hacked Off campaign when the truth comes out and McCann and Co, including their wealthy supporters are exposed as having lied about almost everything since May 3rd 2007 and the press/media are shown to have been right all along? Having McCann as the face of Hacked Off is a high-risk policy. Perhaps those in the media who are 'in the know' are playing a long game?

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Re: Madeleine McCanns's Father Calls for Press Law

Post  frencheuropean on Thu 21 Mar - 23:42

Interesting article about the possible effects of the Royal Charters on blogs:

http://inforrm.wordpress.com/2013/03/21/the-royal-charter-bloggers-and-internet-regulation-an-extension-too-far-tim-lowles/


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The Royal Charter, Bloggers and Internet regulation – an extension too far? – Tim Lowles
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As one would expect, the subject of applying regulation to the internet, has come under particular scrutiny from the online community as a result of proposals contained in the draft Royal Charter on self-regulation of the press and amendments to the Crime and Courts Bill. On the whole they have been criticised as an unwarranted extension which will have a “chilling effect” on internet publishers. Is this an accurate assessment of the proposals?

The draft Royal Charter flows from the Leveson Report. In is interesting that those who complained that Lord Justice Leveson failed to deal with the internet now appear to complain the measures taken to implement the report do include the internet.

A number of commentators such as Hugo Rifkind in the Times (£) argue that the effect of the draft Royal Charter will be that “anybody with a point to make or an accusation to level” will be subject to the same form of regulation as a newspaper and the possibility of £1 m fines (should they choose to sign up to the proposed regulator) or exemplary damages (if they don’t). I have to say I disagree.

Looking at both the draft Royal Charter and the Crime and Courts Bill it is of note that there are differing definitions of “relevant publishers”.

The definition of “relevant publisher” as it applies to a website within the draft Royal Charter (at Schedule 4) is:

“a person (other than a broadcaster) who publishes in the United Kingdom a website containing news-related material (whether or not related to a newspaper or magazine).”

Importantly, a person publishes in the United Kingdom if:

“the publication takes places in the United Kingdom or is targeted primarily at an audience in the United Kingdom”

This definition is deliberately permissive as it allows anyone who wishes to join the regulatory system to do so.

One also needs to look at the definition of a “relevant publisher” as proposed in the amendments to the Crime and Courts Bill (see amendment 18) to see what the situation would be if you are not signed up the regulatory system. Here the definition is as follows:

“a person, who in the course of business (whether or not with a view to profit), publishes news related material-

(a) Which is written by different authors;

(b) Which is to any extent subject to editorial control”

This definition is somewhat narrower than that contained within the Royal Charter no doubt as it is specifically dealing with the various ‘carrots and sticks’ for those who choose not to sign up to the regulator.

In light of these definitions individual bloggers are unlikely to be subject to the new proposed regulatory regime. So for example those individual blogs on WordPress or Blogger would remain unregulated and not subject to the adverse costs awards, or possibility of exemplary damages, that can result from not signing up as members of the proposed regulator. On the other hand websites such run by those such as the Huffington Post or Guido Fawkes could be.

Paul Staines’s ‘Guido Fawkes’ website for instance has a number of contributors, is run as a business and despite being off shore is targeted primarily at an audience in the United Kingdom. Whilst he is entitled to protest and refuse to join the regulator one has to ask, from a commercial perspective, why such a website would do so?

If the website continues to publish articles within the law it has nothing to fear. If it was to stray into libellous (or otherwise unlawful) territory it would be able to benefit from the proposed arbitration system which would be considerably cheaper than fighting High Court litigation, in which it would most likely be liable for the costs of in any event given most disputes will be able to be dealt with under the arbitration scheme.

Following the recent decision in Thompson v James [2013] EWHC 515 (QB) (see here for case comment) the claimant, who lost her case and was successfully sued herself, has said that she is unable to pay the £25,000 damages let alone the costs involved with a 6 day High Court trial. Had the new regulatory regime been in place, and Ms Thompson been a member, no doubt she would have benefited from a user friendly, speedy and considerably less costly arbitration process. All this is all the more relevant if the abolition of CFAs (currently on hold for libel and privacy claims) goes ahead.

As to the threat of exemplary damages for those who don’t sign up to the proposed regulator, these are only to be awarded “where the defendant’s conduct has shown a deliberate or reckless disregard of an outrageous nature for the claimant’s rights.” Even if this high threshold is met the Courts are likely to consider the offending party’s financial circumstances, and ability to pay, when assessing the amount of exemplary damages that should be payable.

Maria Miller, the Culture Secretary, appears to support this view as when asked to comment on this issue she said the “publisher would have to meet the three tests of whether the publication is publishing news-related material in the course of a business, whether their material is written by a range of authors – this would exclude a one-man band or a single blogger – and whether that material is subject to editorial control“. Miller also highlighted the various bodies excluded from this definition which includes broadcasters, special interest titles, scientific journals, public bodies and charities, company news publications and book publishers.

Whichever way ones look at it the law with regards to the internet remains uncertain; regulating it, even less so.

What of organisations such as Google, Facebook and Twitter? These companies will need to look closely at the draft Royal Charter and the way in which it affects them. Whilst on the face of it they are conduits for others to publish blogs or micro blogs do they in fact exert editorial control, such as to fall within the definition of “relevant publisher” through their use of various algorithms? They will also need to have in mind the recent decision in Tamiz v Google [2013] EWCA Civ 68 (see here for case comment) in which the Court of Appeal held that Google could be liable as a publisher at common law.

It is clear that these companies all make a significant amount of money within the United Kingdom and that they, along with other websites which are run as businesses, should be subject to the same rule of law as everyone else.

Whilst the individual blogger, passionate about his or her subject, should be offered some protection from the ‘stick’ of the not being a member of the proposed regulator it appears safeguards already exist; perhaps someone just needs to report this fact to them.

That said, there can be no denying that in this day and age individuals still retain the power to cause untold damage through their publications online. One tweet from Justin Bieber can reach 36 million followers in an instant, many more than the daily circulation all of the newspapers in this country (and several others) combined; and therein lies the problem which remains to be addressed.

Tim Lowles is a Senior Associate in the IP and Reputation Management team at Collyer Bristow. He can be followed on Twitter at @timlowles.


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Re: Madeleine McCanns's Father Calls for Press Law

Post  almostgothic on Fri 22 Mar - 0:57

In the same vein as frencheuropean's informative post, this is also a Must-Read because it concerns us all, and it shows how hurried legislation can become Draconian legislation. And how the ambiguously worded bits suddenly become over-arching - stifling forms of expression they were never intended to cover.
And thank heaven for guys like these, who are fighting the internet's corner.

http://dropsafe.crypticide.com/article/11238

One quote from the above:

It wasn’t a “good discussion” - it was an outright shambles and I was left feeling that the process is being railroaded. Tragically I think even HackedOff are being railroaded. They’ve launched a missile and not all of them were expecting it to fly with such speed, power and arbitrariness, though I feel pretty sure that there’s at least one Strangelovian character amongst them who is waiting to bask in the glory of the nuclear explosion.

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Post  almostgothic on Fri 22 Mar - 6:58

Tee hee!

Ranty Man ‏@ranty_man 5m
Hacked Off ‘made a mistake’ apparently they were at a tapas bar while the legislation was being drafted.

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Post  margaret on Fri 22 Mar - 20:40

Well it seems to me that it's all died a death, the papers aren't giving any air time to hacked off. Makes me think they're hacked off and biding their time....

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Post  T4two on Fri 22 Mar - 20:47

margaret wrote:Well it seems to me that it's all died a death, the papers aren't giving any air time to hacked off. Makes me think they're hacked off and biding their time....

Yes, I've searched most newspapers on the Internet this morning and found nothing. This whole business leaves a very bad impression of the three main political parties in UK. Perhaps it's time for an alternative.

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Post  Panda on Sat 23 Mar - 6:03

There is the question of monitoring the internet looking for libel from the Forums ......just who is going to regulate this? The McCanns are internet savvy and had the money to sue TB, what happens if the person libelled has not got the money to sue? This Charter was hastily cobbled together but will probably be a damp squib as far as hustice is concerned.

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Re: Madeleine McCanns's Father Calls for Press Law

Post  jeanmonroe on Sat 23 Mar - 11:03

DON'T PANIC KATE AND GERRY, HUGH'S HERE TO SAVES YA!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/mar/22/hacked-off-press-regulation-amendment?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+theguardian%2Fmedia%2Frss+%28Media%29
Hacked Off calls for press regulation to exclude 'non-profit' publishers
Campaign group calls on parties to agree amendment to exclude loss-making bloggers and websites from exemplary damages
Hacked Off has called on all three political parties to agree an amendment to the proposed press regulation legislation excluding "non-profit publishers" from the scheme.
It would mean loss-making bloggers and websites would no longer risk exemplary damages if taken to court for libel or breaches of privacy.
Hacked Off said its proposed amendment will solve this problem. "Taken together, these provisions will exclude tweeters, bloggers, community websites and other small publishers from the statute. In addition, there is also a 'failsafe' mechanism in the statute, which means that the penalties do not apply where it would not be reasonable to expect a publisher to join an approved regulator," it added.
Hacked Off said its proposed amendment will solve this problem. "Taken together, these provisions will exclude tweeters, bloggers, community websites and other small publishers from the statute. In addition, there is also a 'failsafe' mechanism in the statute, which means that the penalties do not apply where it would not be reasonable to expect a publisher to join an approved regulator," it added.
Hacked Off said its amendment is designed to exclude "small publishers". Professor Brian Cathcart, Hacked Off executive director, said: "We believe this is an unforeseen problem that resulted from some bad government drafting and we can see no reason why the main political parties will not take the remaining opportunity in parliament to put it right. We have made suggestions for the necessary changes and understand that we are not the only ones to have done so. It is up to the politicians to act now."

DID IT SUDDENLY DAWN ON "HACKED OFF" THAT THE MCCANNS SITE IS A SUPPOSEDLY 'NON PROFIT' WEBSITE?
(but BLAME it on bad government drafting)
WOULDN'T WANT THEIR "MATES" BEING SUED FOR NON 'FACTUAL' INFORMATION BEING PUBLISHED ON THEIR (profitable) SITE, WOULD THEY?

Have YOU seen the EGGMAN driving a white van? If so contact the McCanns at 'findmadeleine.com' a non (supposedly) profit website.
Except for the few £million 'donations' ASKED FOR to go into their PRIVATE COMPANY 'fund' and their online 'store'!
No PROFIT THERE THEN?

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Post  AnnaEsse on Sat 23 Mar - 19:06

jeanmonroe wrote:DON'T PANIC KATE AND GERRY, HUGH'S HERE TO SAVES YA!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2013/mar/22/hacked-off-press-regulation-amendment?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+theguardian%2Fmedia%2Frss+%28Media%29
Hacked Off calls for press regulation to exclude 'non-profit' publishers
Campaign group calls on parties to agree amendment to exclude loss-making bloggers and websites from exemplary damages
Hacked Off has called on all three political parties to agree an amendment to the proposed press regulation legislation excluding "non-profit publishers" from the scheme.
It would mean loss-making bloggers and websites would no longer risk exemplary damages if taken to court for libel or breaches of privacy.
Hacked Off said its proposed amendment will solve this problem. "Taken together, these provisions will exclude tweeters, bloggers, community websites and other small publishers from the statute. In addition, there is also a 'failsafe' mechanism in the statute, which means that the penalties do not apply where it would not be reasonable to expect a publisher to join an approved regulator," it added.
Hacked Off said its proposed amendment will solve this problem. "Taken together, these provisions will exclude tweeters, bloggers, community websites and other small publishers from the statute. In addition, there is also a 'failsafe' mechanism in the statute, which means that the penalties do not apply where it would not be reasonable to expect a publisher to join an approved regulator," it added.
Hacked Off said its amendment is designed to exclude "small publishers". Professor Brian Cathcart, Hacked Off executive director, said: "We believe this is an unforeseen problem that resulted from some bad government drafting and we can see no reason why the main political parties will not take the remaining opportunity in parliament to put it right. We have made suggestions for the necessary changes and understand that we are not the only ones to have done so. It is up to the politicians to act now."

DID IT SUDDENLY DAWN ON "HACKED OFF" THAT THE MCCANNS SITE IS A SUPPOSEDLY 'NON PROFIT' WEBSITE?
(but BLAME it on bad government drafting)
WOULDN'T WANT THEIR "MATES" BEING SUED FOR NON 'FACTUAL' INFORMATION BEING PUBLISHED ON THEIR (profitable) SITE, WOULD THEY?

Have YOU seen the EGGMAN driving a white van? If so contact the McCanns at 'findmadeleine.com' a non (supposedly) profit website.
Except for the few £million 'donations' ASKED FOR to go into their PRIVATE COMPANY 'fund' and their online 'store'!
No PROFIT THERE THEN?

There's also the OFM Facebook page where some of the supporters don't hold back on giving their opinions. Then there are the bloggers and Tweeters that some of us wonder why the McCanns don't disown, those whose main purpose in tweeting and blogging seems to be to throw abuse at anyone who questions the McCanns' version of events. Gerry McCann may have had a 'lightbulb,' moment when he realised that silencing those who disagree with him and the wifie would also mean silencing all those who so vociferously support them.

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Post  kitti on Sat 23 Mar - 19:58

Have you seen what Bren Ryan is putting on ALL off HiDeHo's and other pro maddie video sites on YouTube.



She has put that we are all women selling our children to pedophiles.....

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Post  AnnaEsse on Sat 23 Mar - 20:03

kitti wrote:Have you seen what Bren Ryan is putting on ALL off HiDeHo's and other pro maddie video sites on YouTube.



She has put that we are all women selling our children to pedophiles.....

She is now totally out of her box!

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Post  AnnaEsse on Sat 23 Mar - 20:08

kitti wrote:Have you seen what Bren Ryan is putting on ALL off HiDeHo's and other pro maddie video sites on YouTube.



She has put that we are all women selling our children to pedophiles.....

What name is she posting under, kitti?

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Post  Not Born Yesterday on Sat 23 Mar - 20:08

I think that she and Graham Perry would be a match made in heaven or possibly the other place! Or there's always muratfan whom I hear has split up with his partner.


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Post  Panda on Sat 23 Mar - 20:20

The McCann site is NOT a Charity, NOT a Forum, but a FUND initiated by Madeleines' Parents asking for donations to search for their Daughter. To this end it is a SELLER of Merchandise , making a profit on Sales and only liable for 20% Tax on millions of £'s donated and raised through Legal Action .
The Directors of the Fund, the Parents, have spent many thousands of £'s suing anyone who dares have an opinion other than the "Abduction" mantra, so how would this be considered under the new proposed legislation?

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Post  T4two on Sat 23 Mar - 22:07

AnnaEsse wrote:
kitti wrote:Have you seen what Bren Ryan is putting on ALL off HiDeHo's and other pro maddie video sites on YouTube.



She has put that we are all women selling our children to pedophiles.....

She is now totally out of her box!

It's a kind of mental sickness brought on by the Internet - a cronic need for attention which induces the sufferer to make increasingly outrageous statements with the sole purpose of inciting a response. These deranged people were always more interested in themselves and the status they crave than in Madeleine and simply use the case as a vehicle for their own ends. One recognizes them by their inability to interact with others which manifests itself in a tirade of insults directed at anyone perceived as being of superior intelligence to themselves.

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Post  jeanmonroe on Sat 23 Mar - 22:28



...."It's a kind of mental sickness brought on by the Internet - a cronic need for attention which induces the sufferer to make increasingly outrageous statements with the sole purpose of inciting a response. These deranged people were always more interested in themselves and the status they crave than in Madeleine and simply use the case as a vehicle for their own ends. One recognizes them by their inability to interact with others which manifests itself in a tirade of insults directed at anyone perceived as being of superior intelligence to themselves."


That'll be KM then!

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Post  tanszi on Sun 24 Mar - 0:23

oh i find this so hilarious, Hacked Off said its too late for MPs to lobby on the charter, but they want amendments due to bad writing. OMG you cannot make this up, and yes i agree it would mean that so many really awful comments directed to us nutters could lead to fines. bet there was more than a lightbulb moment. Does this mean that anyone publishing something wherever, books, papers, leaflets pamphlets, which someone disagrees with canm be fined. I sure hope so!

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Post  Panda on Sun 24 Mar - 1:03

tanszi wrote:oh i find this so hilarious, Hacked Off said its too late for MPs to lobby on the charter, but they want amendments due to bad writing. OMG you cannot make this up, and yes i agree it would mean that so many really awful comments directed to us nutters could lead to fines. bet there was more than a lightbulb moment. Does this mean that anyone publishing something wherever, books, papers, leaflets pamphlets, which someone disagrees with canm be fined. I sure hope so!

Hi tanzi.....don't you mean cannot be fined?? Can you imagine the abuse that goes on in twitter, facebook etc which can be open to Libel ? Lord McAlpine sued someone and won over the Pedophile accusation. The internet as much as it is good is also guilty of malicious gossip , I don't belong to any of them , nor want to. I don't think this Charter was thought through and not enough debating time to get it right. Lawyers must be rubbing their hands in glee at the prospect of all the extra work to come from this.

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Post  tigger on Sun 24 Mar - 1:52

Panda wrote:The McCann site is NOT a Charity, NOT a Forum, but a FUND initiated by Madeleines' Parents asking for donations to search for their Daughter. To this end it is a SELLER of Merchandise , making a profit on Sales and only liable for 20% Tax on millions of £'s donated and raised through Legal Action .
The Directors of the Fund, the Parents, have spent many thousands of £'s suing anyone who dares have an opinion other than the "Abduction" mantra, so how would this be considered under the new proposed legislation?

It's a Ltd. Company, Panda. The term Fund used in the name of the Ltd. Co. (I'm not using the word Fund anymore because after ranting to an old friend of mine about the case - she made the usual remarks, 'how do you know and they are doctors etc.' - when I said the Fund was a Ltd. Co. she was astounded).

Strangely enough, a Ltd. Co. doesn't have to pay tax on donations. Which is a pity but there you are.

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Fund You cannot use this word unless the body shown below confirms (letter or email) that it has no objection.

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Email: sensitivebusinessn@fsa.gov.uk

Interesting - since this was an additional hurdle to overcome in the few days that the Ltd. Co. was set up

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Post  T4two on Sun 24 Mar - 2:08

tigger wrote:
Panda wrote:The McCann site is NOT a Charity, NOT a Forum, but a FUND initiated by Madeleines' Parents asking for donations to search for their Daughter. To this end it is a SELLER of Merchandise , making a profit on Sales and only liable for 20% Tax on millions of £'s donated and raised through Legal Action .
The Directors of the Fund, the Parents, have spent many thousands of £'s suing anyone who dares have an opinion other than the "Abduction" mantra, so how would this be considered under the new proposed legislation?

It's a Ltd. Company, Panda. The term Fund used in the name of the Ltd. Co. (I'm not using the word Fund anymore because after ranting to an old friend of mine about the case - she made the usual remarks, 'how do you know and they are doctors etc.' - when I said the Fund was a Ltd. Co. she was astounded).

Strangely enough, a Ltd. Co. doesn't have to pay tax on donations. Which is a pity but there you are.

From Company House:


Fund You cannot use this word unless the body shown below confirms (letter or email) that it has no objection.

Sensitive Business Names Team
Financial Services Authority
25 The North Colonnade
Canary Wharf
London E14 5HS

Email: sensitivebusinessn@fsa.gov.uk

Interesting - since this was an additional hurdle to overcome in the few days that the Ltd. Co. was set up

As I recall, that's where Gordon Brown stepped in and instructed the Inland Revenue to assist the McCanns in setting up the best possible organization for their requirements. Later GM wanted to get NGO status but it was refused.

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Post  Panda on Sun 24 Mar - 2:12

T4two......what's NGO status

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