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Post  Guest Thu 9 May - 9:15

Kate is a wreck. She can't hold out much longer imho.

Gerry is still his usual arrogant self. He will go down kicking and screaming right up until the very end.
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Post  margaret Thu 9 May - 9:54

Iris wrote:Kate is a wreck. She can't hold out much longer imho.

Gerry is still his usual arrogant self. He will go down kicking and screaming right up until the very end.

I agree, this is the end game. Since SY started their investigative review Kate has aged and looks ill, l think they know what's coming.

I feel sorry for her in some ways, if only they had both been honest and co-operative in the beginning their lives could have been rebuilt at some point.

Gerry will go down blaming Kate for everything, and l think she knows that too - catch 22.
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Post  wjk Thu 9 May - 9:58

Yep. Agree with you both.
She looks absolutely awful in the photo on the thread about her being in Portugal.
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Post  chrissie Thu 9 May - 10:01

I've always thought that Gerry would put the blame on Kate, if it came to it.
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Post  Panda Thu 9 May - 10:05

Gerry's Mother was interviewed a long time ago and remarked that Kate had a temper and apparently shouted at Gerry "It's me they are after, not you"
Also, if true they have split that would put a strain on her.
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Post  ann_chovey Thu 9 May - 10:33

Panda wrote:Gerry's Mother was interviewed a long time ago and remarked that Kate had a temper and apparently shouted at Gerry "It's me they are after, not you"
Also, if true they have split that would put a strain on her.

I think Gerry's Mum mentioned re Maddie 'that girl could throw a tantrum'.
The 'it's me they're after not you ' was the night before the second interview when they were argidified.
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Post  Panda Thu 9 May - 10:41

ann_chovey wrote:
Panda wrote:Gerry's Mother was interviewed a long time ago and remarked that Kate had a temper and apparently shouted at Gerry "It's me they are after, not you"
Also, if true they have split that would put a strain on her.

I think Gerry's Mum mentioned re Maddie 'that girl could throw a tantrum'.
The 'it's me they're after not you ' was the night before the second interview when they were argidified.
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Is Gerry too busy to accompany Kate to Portugal, it is his Daughter as well.!!!!!! I remember distinctly the video where Kate "cried" after being accused of seeming too cold by the Press. She squeezed about 5 tears out and Gerry looks ahead stony faced, no attempt to comfort her. Your'e good at finding stuff think you can find it?Not Long Now Icon_flower
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Post  Angelina Thu 9 May - 10:52

Just watched a recent video here and they look perfectly ok to me. Are there any links where Kate looks near to having a breakdown?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/video/2013/may/01/madeleine-mccann-parents-met-escalated-search-video

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Post  ann_chovey Thu 9 May - 10:58

Panda wrote:
ann_chovey wrote:
Panda wrote:Gerry's Mother was interviewed a long time ago and remarked that Kate had a temper and apparently shouted at Gerry "It's me they are after, not you"
Also, if true they have split that would put a strain on her.

I think Gerry's Mum mentioned re Maddie 'that girl could throw a tantrum'.
The 'it's me they're after not you ' was the night before the second interview when they were argidified.
Morning ann_chovey , your'e probably right.Not Long Now 25346

Is Gerry too busy to accompany Kate to Portugal, it is his Daughter as well.!!!!!! I remember distinctly the video where Kate "cried" after being accused of seeming too cold by the Press. She squeezed about 5 tears out and Gerry looks ahead stony faced, no attempt to comfort her. Your'e good at finding stuff think you can find it?Not Long Now Icon_flower

This one? (the video won't play for me but that is the one I think).

[googlevideo]http://www.google.fr/imgres?q=kate+mccann+cries+images&sa=X&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=643&tbm=isch&tbnid=HGHEiv4h9YLSSM:&imgrefurl=http://www.mccannfiles.com/id210.html&docid=cU_xyq5D0kf9gM&imgurl=http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/spanishint4.jpg&w=468&h=420&ei=0nKLUeDRGoan0QXohIGIDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1000&vpy=220&dur=2749&hovh=213&hovw=237&tx=178&ty=133&page=3&tbnh=131&tbnw=146&start=52&ndsp=29&ved=1t:429,r:58,s:0,i:265[/googlevideo]


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Post  kitti Thu 9 May - 10:58

What exactly do they need money for?

To me, on the website, it looks like their winding down and not producing any more t shirts.....that is very odd and how does that promote awareness .
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Post  AnnaEsse Thu 9 May - 11:04

Iris wrote:Kate is a wreck. She can't hold out much longer imho.

Gerry is still his usual arrogant self. He will go down kicking and screaming right up until the very end.

I thought the same when I saw those photos of her in Praia da Luz. She looked as though she could hardly lift her feet and she was being guided around by that friend of hers.
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Post  Panda Thu 9 May - 11:08

ann_chovey wrote:
Panda wrote:
ann_chovey wrote:
Panda wrote:Gerry's Mother was interviewed a long time ago and remarked that Kate had a temper and apparently shouted at Gerry "It's me they are after, not you"
Also, if true they have split that would put a strain on her.

I think Gerry's Mum mentioned re Maddie 'that girl could throw a tantrum'.
The 'it's me they're after not you ' was the night before the second interview when they were argidified.
Morning ann_chovey , your'e probably right.Not Long Now 25346

Is Gerry too busy to accompany Kate to Portugal, it is his Daughter as well.!!!!!! I remember distinctly the video where Kate "cried" after being accused of seeming too cold by the Press. She squeezed about 5 tears out and Gerry looks ahead stony faced, no attempt to comfort her. Your'e good at finding stuff think you can find it?Not Long Now Icon_flower

This one? (the video won't play for me but that is the one I think).

[googlevideo]http://www.google.fr/imgres?q=kate+mccann+cries+images&sa=X&hl=en&biw=1280&bih=643&tbm=isch&tbnid=HGHEiv4h9YLSSM:&imgrefurl=http://www.mccannfiles.com/id210.html&docid=cU_xyq5D0kf9gM&imgurl=http://www.mccannfiles.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/spanishint4.jpg&w=468&h=420&ei=0nKLUeDRGoan0QXohIGIDg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1000&vpy=220&dur=2749&hovh=213&hovw=237&tx=178&ty=133&page=3&tbnh=131&tbnw=146&start=52&ndsp=29&ved=1t:429,r:58,s:0,i:265[/googlevideo]
Thanks ann_chovey, I can't play it either so we will wait until some kind soul can open it on here .Not Long Now 294124
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Post  Panda Thu 9 May - 11:16

kitti wrote:What exactly do they need money for?

To me, on the website, it looks like their winding down and not producing any more t shirts.....that is very odd and how does that promote awareness .
Morning kitti good to see you posting again (have you checked out the Kercher thread?) . The McCanns don't need any more money and Kate has her Book coming out soon. The M & A for No Stone Unturned was amended to provide other uses, like buying properties , producing videos on how to search for missing children, I kid you Not.!!!!! addressing Seminars etc.
They don't need to sell Merchandise now and have a readymade Private Company to do what they want.
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Post  tanszi Thu 9 May - 13:02

oh fgs I could look distraught, fragile, near to a breakdown in seconds, and im not an actress. Im not convinced by the photos at all. who is so close to them in Pdl that they get that close to them for photos which are then sent hot foot to the media.
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Post  Panda Thu 9 May - 13:33

tanszi wrote:oh fgs I could look distraught, fragile, near to a breakdown in seconds, and im not an actress. Im not convinced by the photos at all. who is so close to them in Pdl that they get that close to them for photos which are then sent hot foot to the media.

You right tanzi........the many faces of Kate , she would make a good Actress. It really makes me feel quite sick the way she muscles in on everything and when she and Gerry were caught laughing in Amsterdam, the photo had to be removed by the Press. Just what is it that the McCanns can dictate everything???
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Post  Angelina Thu 9 May - 15:25

tanszi wrote:oh fgs I could look distraught, fragile, near to a breakdown in seconds, and im not an actress. Im not convinced by the photos at all. who is so close to them in Pdl that they get that close to them for photos which are then sent hot foot to the media.

Quite so. I've seen what a woman looks like when she's near to a complete physical and mental breakdown and it's nothing like Kate.
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Post  wantthetruth Thu 9 May - 16:21

she looks fine to me.....a bit haggered....but then she's looked like that since May 3rd 2007......
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Post  Panda Thu 9 May - 17:15



Spanish language version with Gerry's
end comment included



Spanish language version with Gerry's end comment included elmundo.es










At the end of the Antena 3 interview, one of the cameras continued to
record the McCanns, as they waited to have their microphones removed.


The resultant footage shows a seemingly displeased Gerry turn to Kate and
mutter something.

What Gerry said has been the source of much debate and has been quoted as:
'Don't say anything to whoever is calling', 'Don't say anything till they've
taken off your microphone', and even - on the Nancy Grace show - 'Honey, be
quiet while you're still miked up. Don't say another word.'

My personal belief, having listened many times, is that Gerry says: 'Do you
want to say anything to whoever's got her'. Perhaps belatedly trying to prompt
Kate, who had forgotten to make a previously rehearsed address to Madeleine's
alleged abductor.

The Spanish version of the interview, above, includes this end section, so
readers can form their own opinion of what Gerry actually
says.







Tears: McCanns Give Emotional TV Interview, 25
October 2007



Tears: McCanns Give Emotional TV Interview Sky
News




6:29am UK, Thursday October 25,
2007




Kate McCann has choked back tears during her
first interview since being named a suspect in her daughter Madeleine's
disappearance.








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Kate McCann on Antena
3



Mrs McCann and her husband Gerrytold Spanish TV they were innocent of any
wrongdoing - and were certain they would be eliminated from the Portuguese
police inquiry.

The missing girl's parents talked about their personal and legal situation,
and hit back at claims made by newspapers in Portugal and Britain.

They also spoke of the heartache of being separated from their daughter for
nearly six months - but added they were sure she was still alive and would one
day return home.

"I feel very lonely, and our lives are obviously not as happy without
Madeleine," Mrs McCann said.

"I just feel anxious that she's out there and she's not with us."

She said their other two children, twins Sean and Amelie, kept asking when
Madeleine would come home, although they were not "upset or distressed".

Mr McCann also said they were not worried about the outcome of the DNA
tests taken in Portugal that some newspapers claimed would incriminate
them.

"There's nothing in those DNA tests that will show we're anything other
than completely innocent," he said.

"We'll be eliminated (from the inquiry), because we've done nothing."

When asked whether the couple sedated their children - a question which
Kate McCann refused point-blank to answer - Mr McCann firmly dismissed the
accusation as "ludicrous".

Family spokesman Clarence Mitchell told Sky News investigators had advised
the couple to do the interview as a way of raising awareness about a new hotline
set up for people to call with information about Madeleine's disappearance (+34
902 300 213).

He agreed that the interview had been a difficult one for Mrs McCann.

"She is strong throughout most of the interview - it's only towards the end
that she becomes visibly upset," he said.

"She is a mother who had lost her child, let's not forget that.

"Kate and Gerry have gone through their own personal heartache and grief.
They've just chosen for various good reasons not to show it in public."

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Hi ann-chovey, if you scroll further down on the link you find, this comes up.It's not the one I was thinking of but I think Kate's crying is genuine, she really does look upset here .
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Post  matthew Thu 9 May - 18:05

Here you go Panda Not Long Now 912418
Dont say anything untill.........?



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Post  Panda Thu 9 May - 18:21

matthew wrote:Here you go Panda Not Long Now 912418
Dont say anything untill.........?




Thanks matthew.....all you clever people.Not Long Now 25346

The one I was thinking of was an interview just after Kate accused of not showing any emotion and she does try to cry but you can see it's false and Gerry looks straight ahead , doesn't even try to comfort her. In this video she genuinely looks upset .but Gerry looks really p***ed off.


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Post  ann_chovey Thu 9 May - 21:11

Panda wrote:
matthew wrote:Here you go Panda Not Long Now 912418
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Thanks matthew.....all you clever people.Not Long Now 25346

The one I was thinking of was an interview just after Kate accused of not showing any emotion and she does try to cry but you can see it's false and Gerry looks straight ahead , doesn't even try to comfort her. In this video she genuinely looks upset .but Gerry looks realled p***ed off.

This is the interview I think, (the one Matthew has linked) but Spanish tv snipped the bit where KM bends down and cries and Gerry stares straight ahead, you can see she has a tissue in her hand towards the end of the interview.

far right, eighth row down, still from video....

https://www.google.fr/search?q=kate+mccann+cries+images&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=XgKMUeGtMdG5hAfmr4GoDA&sqi=2&ved=0CC4QsAQ&biw=1280&bih=643
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Post  kathybelle Thu 9 May - 23:01

margaret wrote:
Iris wrote:Kate is a wreck. She can't hold out much longer imho.

Gerry is still his usual arrogant self. He will go down kicking and screaming right up until the very end.

I agree, this is the end game. Since SY started their investigative review Kate has aged and looks ill, l think they know what's coming.

I feel sorry for her in some ways, if only they had both been honest and co-operative in the beginning their lives could have been rebuilt at some point.

Gerry will go down blaming Kate for everything, and l think she knows that too - catch 22.


I make no apologies for saying this, I don't feel sorry for Kate McCann. I cannot have pity for anyone who perpetrates their child's disappearance, whether by their own hands or by another. The McCanns had no need to be honest with the PJ, they had no need to cooperate with them, because they knew they were going to be protected. In fact they were protected, as soon as Gerry made 'that' phone call to Gordon Brown.

I'm disgusted with the McCanns, but I'm also disgusted with the ones who have protected the McCanns from day one. The McCanns weren't just protected by the British Government and the British Justice system, they were protected by certain members of the Portuguese Government and the Portuguese justice system.

None of these people gave a stuff about the situation the McCanns put Madeleine in. They didn't give a stuff about Madeleine's whereabouts, all they were interested in, was protecting the McCanns.

It isn't too long ago, that police officers from the UK, went over to Greece to search for Ben Needham, who has been missing for over 20yrs. Ben's mum had been pleading for years, for this to happen.

The McCanns have never pleaded for UK officers to go over to the Algarve to search for Madeleine, even though they've been bleating on about the Portuguese police, halting their search for Madeleine. All the McCanns are interested in, is a review. They're not interested in the case being reopened, but then why would they when they were the ones who applied for it to be closed!

For 2yrs, Scotland Yard have been conducting a review. They have in their possession, all of the files, including the files that were never released to the McCanns. If the information in the PJ files is fact, then there is and always was, enough information to build a case against the McCanns.

The fact that the McCanns and their 'Tapas' mates, have not been taken over to Portugal, to be re-questioned, about the events surrounding Madeleine's disappearance, speaks volumes. In my opinion, Scotland Yard are looking for ways to exonerate the McCanns.

Sorry for the rant.
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Post  tanszi Thu 9 May - 23:41

I don't think it was a rant I think it was very clear and concise, and an opinion which I agree with. jimo.
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Post  Panda Fri 10 May - 1:01

Thanks ann_chovey, still not sure but this snippet once again shows how shallow Kate is, trying to tell us that they intended to change their plans on the night Madeleine disappeared.






Kate McCann has revealed she and Gerry intended to take Madeleine to dinner with them on the night she vanished - but changed their minds at the last moment.
The couple had initially planned to stroll half a mile with Madeleine and two-year-old twins Sean and Amelie to a restaurant that catered for families.
But because the children were tired they took the fateful decision to feed them in their flat and put them to bed instead - and then went out to dine with their friends.
Kate, telling for the first time of the seemingly inconsequential change of plan, says tearfully: "Why didn't we go?""
The heartbreaking revelation comes in a two-hour TV special screened tonight ahead of the first anniversary of the four-year-old's disappearance.
In the documentary Kate also tells how becoming an official police suspect only made her stronger and more determined to fight for her daughter.
She says: "I felt angry, I felt strong. I wasn't scared. I would do whatever it took to fight for justice and truth."
MYBEST FRIEND
Kate tells movingly how the little blonde girl was more like a best friend than a daughter - and reveals how she tortures herself by trying to imagine how Madeleine looks now she is approaching her fifth birthday.
The ITV1 documentary Madeleine, One Year On: Campaign For Change, was produced after camera crews spent four months with the McCanns.
It captures the daily anguish endured by both parents - graphically illustrated when Kate weeps as she says to the camera: "I know how much I love Madeleine and I have no doubt that Madeleine knows how much I love her."
Kate also tells how she still agonises over the ill-fated decision not to got to family-friendly Millennium restaurant on the night Madeleine went missing.
She and Gerry had planned to take the children there to mark the last night of their holiday.
Kate says: "We were all going up to the Millennium again, with the kids, which is what we did on the first night. But the Millennium was a good walk away and we didn't have a buggy with us.
"It didn't open till half-six and our kids usually go to bed around seven, so they were really tired and they were walking.
"So we ended up trying to carry three of them between two and we decided we couldn't do that again. It wouldn't have been good for anybody." Instead, the couple decided to dine with friends at the tapas bar about 60 yards from their holiday apartment in Praia da Luz and check their children every half-hour. At around 9.15pm, Madeleine was found to be missing.
Kate, a devout Catholic, tells how as a frantic search got under way she sat in her daughter's room praying - then phoned friends and begged them to pray.
She says: "It was really cold. I knew what pyjamas she had on and I thought 'She's going to be freezing'. And it was dark and every minute seemed like an hour and we were up all night, waiting for the first light about 6am." Kate also tells of their growing realisation that Portuguese police suspected them of murdering their own child.
She weeps again as she says: "I realised the theory was that Madeleine was dead and that we'd been involved.
"It just hit home - 'They haven't been looking for Madeleine.' And I just thought 'She deserves so much better than that'."
But Kate reveals that being made an arguido, or official suspect, over Madeleine's disappearance actually inspired her to greater efforts.
She says: "I felt almost invincible. I don't know what kicked in. I thought 'Someone has to fight for Madeleine'."
Gerry adds: "If we had crumpled, then who's looking for Madeleine?"
Kate also speaks about the close bond she and Madeleine shared - more like best friends than mother and daughter.
She says: "I had days when I'd go to a cafe with Madeleine and we'd go shopping together and she'd just say 'Oh mummy I like that top' or 'Oh I love your earrings, mummy'."
Then, poignantly slipping into the present tense, Kate adds: "She's good company. She's like a little buddy to me. She's very loving...a very bright little girl."
Kate fights to maintain her composure as she describes how Madeleine stepped into the role of big sister when the twins were born. She says: "It was lovely seeing them together and that's one thing I struggle with, imagining how they'd be now."
And she hits out at those who accused her of showing too little emotion after Madeleine vanished, adding: "We had behavioural specialist profilers out who were telling us not to show emotion in case the abductor gets a kick out of it.
"You've got the pressure of not showing emotion to protect your daughter."
Gerry also fights tears as he views Madeleine's webpage on YouTube on his laptop at their home in Rothley, Leics.
TWINS NEED US
He turns away and says: "Every time I watch that video it brings it back."
But despite her resolve to stay strong, Kate tells how after returning home in September without Madeleine she was overwhelmed by feelings of despair.
She says: "I didn't cook a meal, just couldn't do it. How can I hang up washing when my daughter's not here?"
But the day-to-day business of caring for the twins has forced her to cope.
Kate says: "Sean and Amelie need and deserve a normal happy life."
She still unconsciously refers to Madeleine as if she is with them as she adds: "It's a case of getting up and breakfast and getting dressed and with three kids there's always lots of washing.
"In some ways it's good, because you have to do it."
Gerry adds:"Your life is carrying on in a quasi-real existence, a purgatory-type existence. We are between something real and never finding out.
"We're not getting any information about the investigation and that is completely demoralising."
The film also captures the couple's disgust as their statements to Portuguese police were leaked on the day they went to Brussels to campaign for a Europeanwide missing child alert system.
The leak revealed that on the morning of May 3, the day Madeleine vanished, she asked Kate: "Mummy, why didn't you come when we were crying last night?"
Angry Kate insists it was merely a passing remark by Madeleine and accuses the police of smear tactics, adding: "I feel absolutely gutted."
She adds: "I've persecuted myself over and over again about that statement because you think 'Why didn't I just hold her and say what do you mean?' Why didn't I say 'Why did you cry?' And why didn't we go to the Millennium?"
STILL SO NEAR
On Saturday it will be a year since Madeleine vanished. But Kate says: "It doesn't feel like a year since I saw her. She's very much still there and she doesn't seem that far away. It feels like she's still with me and I've never felt that I won't see her again.
"I see Madeleine's best friend from time to time. I can't help wondering what would Madeleine be like, would she be that much taller, is her hair as long as that?
"Would she be writing her name? You know she's there waiting for us. She's there somewhere. It's just finding her."
Gerry says: "She's still very much part of our life and the twins. We can see how much they love their big sister. Our little girl wasn't even four and now she's nearly five. She's the victim and people should not forget that."
Kate vows that she will never give up the hunt for her beloved daughter.
But she admits: "The thought of living like this for another 40 years isn't exactly a happy prospect."
Madeleine McCann timeline
2007
May 3
Kate and Gerry McCann leave their three children asleep in their holiday apartment in Praia da Luz while they dine with friends at a nearby tapas restaurant. When Kate checks at 10pm three-year-old Madeleine missing
May 5
Portuguese police reveal they believe Madeleine was abducted but is still alive and in Portugal.
May 7
Kate makes a desperate appeal to Madeleine's kidnapper
May 8
Manchester United and Portugal star Cristiano Ronaldo makes a televised appeal for Madeleine to be released
May 10
Police hold a press conference and announce they are winding down the search around Praia da Luz
May 13
Virgin boss Richard Branson, author J.K. Rowling and footballer Wayne Rooney contribute towards a £2.5million reward
May 14
Detectives take Anglo-Portuguese man Robert Murat in for questioning and make him an "arguido", or official suspect
May 17
Madeleine's family set up an official campaign fund and launch the website www.findmadeleine.com
May 19
Video appeals are screened during the FA Cup final
May 30
Mr and Mrs McCann meet Pope in Rome
Jun 21
The McCanns' hopes are raised when numerous sightings of a girl matching Madeleine's description are made in Malta
Aug 3
A woman claims she saw Madeleine at a service station in Belgium
Aug 11
Exactly 100 days after Madeleine disappeared, investigating officers publicly acknowledge for the first time that she could be dead
Aug 12
Donations to the Madeleine McCann fighting fund reach £1million
Sept 9
The McCanns fly back to England with twins after being made official suspects
Nov 1
Mr McCann returns to work as a consultant cardiologist at Leicester's Glenfield Hospital.
2008
Feb 4
Portugal's top detective says in a radio interview that police were "hasty" in making Madeleine's parents suspects
Mar 19
Mr and Mrs McCann accept £550,000 libel damages and front-page apologies from Express Newspapers
Apr 7
Three Portuguese detectives, led by Paulo Rebelo, fly to Britain to re-interview the seven friends
Apr 10
A leak of the couple's first police interviews reveals that Madeleine asked her mother on the morning before she vanished: "Mummy, why didn't you come when we were crying last night?"
Apr 26
Gerry says he believes his daughter is still "probably alive" and that there is "absolutely zero" evidence to suggest otherwise


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